Let me guess, he's also big on traditional, Christian values, RIGHT?! You know, the institute famously led by people who devoted their entire life to **just** introspection (and study of scriptures). This is just too stupid. He pulls a year out of thin air - as if anything fundamentally shifted. The fact that he doesn't *know* what philosophy, ethics, or even science is doesn't mean that they never existed. It's just his peep-hole into the world that is so limited.
Having my family know Sam Walton intimately (was best friends with my Grandfather, and they were neighbors growing up), he was absolutely introspective, and a decent person. Before he died, he told my Grandfather of his concerns about his children becoming monsters. His big idea was how to supply a bigger chain successfully. Once that occurred, he never did one thing; which is teach that his and their successes were not one. He did lament that later in life, as control was passed over.
oh so that's why they don't like things like safety regulations, dwell in the past stay stuck in the past, got it. "Sir should we get a protective guard rail on this open spinning blade or just let a few workers each month go home with fewer fingers?" "Move forward. GO. Go home with fewer fingers! Don't dwell on the old you with all their intact digits, you're a new man now, you're welcome!"
Classic finance bro behavior. Zero feet in reality, understanding of history, psychology, sociology, philosophy and antrhopology are non-existent, and buys fully into the "Great Man" idea, thinks that individual men built companies/nations/empires and not the combined efforts of thousands of people working together. These men cannot be helped, or fixed. These CEOs, 90% of them, couldn't do SHIT on their own. All they know is money, and how to throw it at smarter people.
the billionaires are just as much stuck in the past. it's just harder to actually implement a feudal society these days than when that was the standard. however, yes, guillotines have worked across time and are still effective today at what they do.
Telling on himself. Like, the only time he's confronted with guilt or criticism is when he decides to be introspective? Really? What a coddled manchild.
Literally all of Greek philosophy and damn near every philosopher since, is about introspection. This just proves he doesn't know a God damn thing about what he's talking about and is boldly confident in his ignorance.
Yeah, for a self-declared "defender of western civilization" he literally doesn't know the high school kid-level Socrates quotes. Maybe he would have more awareness about that if he did some introspection.
Bullshit. Every billionaire is born rich and gets richer. They do this through connections, luck, exploitation, lying, and wealth addiction, not superhuman effort.
"I do coke and adderall and have never had any real problems or struggles in life, and everyone in my circle trips over themselves to coddle me when I make an idiotic error that costs people their livelihoods, so I think mental health is made up."
I have a horseshoe theory when it comes to mental healthcare. On one end is rich people and on the other is poor people. What both have in common is that those populations tend to desperately need mental healthcare but also tend to not get it, but for different reasons. Which is why having enough to be comfortable while still having to work for a living is probably the best context for mental health. It gives you a better chance at having both the perspective and money necessary to seek help.
This dickhead is just wrong at every level. One of the most famous quotes of all time is from Socrates over 2000 years ago "The unexamined life is not worth living." Or the entirety of Stoicism, also over 2000 years old. Or looking outside western society, Buddhism, also over 2000 years. Most people revered in modern society as great ancient thinkers were focused on the shit this dumbfuck thinks is a modern invention.
Not quite as old as Socrates, but John Dunne's "No Man Is An Island" goes against this idiots idea of "creating the concept of the individual" by writing against the idea of individualism. why would Dunne write against the concept of individualism hundreds of year before the concept of the individual? The idiot is just trying to justify his sociopathy and trying to hide it as intellectual counterculture.
That was my thought. Like what the fuck do you think philosophers have been doing for thousands of years? Also, what, you think mankind was a collection of hive minds prior to last century? Further proof that being a CEO/rich does not make you smart
I agree they are different and the title could have been better. I also think they are interconnected and improved when considering those connections. "How would I feel if I experienced " can fit in both.
introspections leads to responsibility towards others, it`s the main effect of introspection, i really hoped i didnt have to specify the obvious, jesus christ.
So many things to unpack, but I'll start with the hilariously disturbing idea that somehow 'the individual' was invented only a few hundred years ago. Were we all conjoined together as one big writhing mass back in the 1600's and I just missed that day in history class?
Then, there is the idea that 'the individual' could somehow build an empire... all by themselves. Like Thutmose III was just sitting by himself on a hill of sand, and somehow that was the entirety of the Egyptian empire.
I guess he just completely missed the ancient Greek philosophers who thought/lectured at length about "the individual". Like, they're pretty famous for it. And that was around 2500 years ago.
I'm assuming there's SOME grain of truth to SOME of what he says, but he's not a trustworthy narrator so SOL.
Alternative framing: No matter what our prior lenses were, we've evolved as a society and that includes to/through concepts of guilt, justice, empathy, introspection etc. Good. Let's keep building on that.
Does he mean people only saw themselves as part of a society and didn't think of themselves? But it's better to not think about either? I haven't a fucking clue.
I think he's saying that they thought of themselves and what was good for them moving forward, instead of turning inward and asking questions about themselves.
It's not hard to find counterexamples of introspective 'great men of history.' Marcus Aurelius has a notebook called 'Meditations' that survives. Ulysses S. Grant's personal memoirs are a brutal assessment of his own faults. Benjamin Franklin scored himself daily on thirteen categories of virtue.
It's not hard to find counterexamples of introspective 'great men of history.' Marcus Aurelius has a notebook called 'Meditations' that survives. Ulysses S. Grant's personal memoirs are a brutal assessment of his own faults. Benjamin Franklin scored himself daily on thirteen categories of virtue.
So in this sense, I guess, it goes hand in hand with moderation. Exercising moderation in sexual matters is a virtue of chastity. But separated because it concerns specific desires.
He scores poorly here, probably because he was a notorious pornhound.
In Franklin's own explanation, "CHASTITY. Rarely use venery but for health or offspring, never to dulness, weakness, or the injury of your own or another’s peace or reputation."
Venery being sexual gratification. In essence, don't get your rocks off just to get your rocks off, and when you do, not so much that you lose your edge or cause chaos or hurt anybody's reputation.
This is likely a synthesis of Greek and Christian ideas.
The Greeks framed virtues as a moderation, and that, plus not indulging until you start failing at life or hurting the reputation of your self or others, I think holds up in the modern day. The Protestant culture prevalent in his life would treat sex for pleasure or outside wedlock as a sin, but indulging to avoid the temptation to stray was understood.
Ben took a similar stance - health and offspring were fine, and also >
completely false, those are puritans beliefs, indulgence was seen as presence of drives aka gods confirming mortality and humanity and divinity in ancient greece, puritans saw it as a problem, to say that the first americans were greek in beliefs is insane considering the christian church dominated europe for 1500 years at that point, and not just politically, but culturally. Benjamin had puritans roots believed in providence and a single god.
gronzilla
Let me guess, he's also big on traditional, Christian values, RIGHT?! You know, the institute famously led by people who devoted their entire life to **just** introspection (and study of scriptures). This is just too stupid. He pulls a year out of thin air - as if anything fundamentally shifted. The fact that he doesn't *know* what philosophy, ethics, or even science is doesn't mean that they never existed. It's just his peep-hole into the world that is so limited.
Also, that interviewer...?!
MCpeepantz
Having my family know Sam Walton intimately (was best friends with my Grandfather, and they were neighbors growing up), he was absolutely introspective, and a decent person. Before he died, he told my Grandfather of his concerns about his children becoming monsters. His big idea was how to supply a bigger chain successfully. Once that occurred, he never did one thing; which is teach that his and their successes were not one. He did lament that later in life, as control was passed over.
honkynell
I think, therefore I am.
the3th
oh so that's why they don't like things like safety regulations, dwell in the past stay stuck in the past, got it. "Sir should we get a protective guard rail on this open spinning blade or just let a few workers each month go home with fewer fingers?" "Move forward. GO. Go home with fewer fingers! Don't dwell on the old you with all their intact digits, you're a new man now, you're welcome!"
ImHereToExplainTheJoke
Classic finance bro behavior. Zero feet in reality, understanding of history, psychology, sociology, philosophy and antrhopology are non-existent, and buys fully into the "Great Man" idea, thinks that individual men built companies/nations/empires and not the combined efforts of thousands of people working together. These men cannot be helped, or fixed. These CEOs, 90% of them, couldn't do SHIT on their own. All they know is money, and how to throw it at smarter people.
psmith00
the billionaires are just as much stuck in the past. it's just harder to actually implement a feudal society these days than when that was the standard. however, yes, guillotines have worked across time and are still effective today at what they do.
thornedrose27
If we learn from our mistakes. How do you learn from your mistakes if you don't admit your mistakes?
LiminallyInsane
Telling on himself. Like, the only time he's confronted with guilt or criticism is when he decides to be introspective? Really? What a coddled manchild.
Indarah
Psychopath
2Soon4Baboon
Literally all of Greek philosophy and damn near every philosopher since, is about introspection. This just proves he doesn't know a God damn thing about what he's talking about and is boldly confident in his ignorance.
nclu
Yeah, for a self-declared "defender of western civilization" he literally doesn't know the high school kid-level Socrates quotes. Maybe he would have more awareness about that if he did some introspection.
Tobiansen
This is what Michael Douglas character in Wall Street would say in a Podcast. So much justifying for plain greed
biggiej
Seems like the definition of narcissism. I think a lot of CEOs are like this.
HitandRyan
Bullshit. Every billionaire is born rich and gets richer. They do this through connections, luck, exploitation, lying, and wealth addiction, not superhuman effort.
icantbelieveistillhavetoprotestthiscrap
That man is mentally ill and should be locked away for the safety of the public
Pfffftit
Ignorant fuck might want to learn a little history
Albertorius
So... thinking about the consequences of what you've done is... a modern invention. Sure.
GigglingWordBearer
"I do coke and adderall and have never had any real problems or struggles in life, and everyone in my circle trips over themselves to coddle me when I make an idiotic error that costs people their livelihoods, so I think mental health is made up."
doctorId
I have a horseshoe theory when it comes to mental healthcare. On one end is rich people and on the other is poor people. What both have in common is that those populations tend to desperately need mental healthcare but also tend to not get it, but for different reasons. Which is why having enough to be comfortable while still having to work for a living is probably the best context for mental health. It gives you a better chance at having both the perspective and money necessary to seek help.
yokwe
Is Marca a druggy?
TorrentialUpPour
Rich people are assumed to be on drugs until proven otherwise. None of them have ever proven otherwise.
TheLuminousBanana
The less you are the more you need.
FellaWithUmbrella
AWildPandaAppears
The irony of saying people who look to the past live in the past. Then supporting that claim by using history.
NepLeet
"Great men." He means "fucking assholes who abused their power".
FartsSmellBad
Baldy is definitely snorting a line a coke every time the camera switches to the other guy
vanishinggirl
If he tries talking any faster his tongue is going to fall out of his mouth!
LinemanMatt
The video is sped up.
Gustave13
that's a sociopath who actively refuses to acknowledge all the people he's stepped on to get where he is... mega guilt
copperdomebodhi
"No one ever felt guilty until Sigmund Freud told them they should." This guy feels no empathy or remorse, so he tells himself only suckers do.
delecti
This dickhead is just wrong at every level. One of the most famous quotes of all time is from Socrates over 2000 years ago "The unexamined life is not worth living." Or the entirety of Stoicism, also over 2000 years old. Or looking outside western society, Buddhism, also over 2000 years. Most people revered in modern society as great ancient thinkers were focused on the shit this dumbfuck thinks is a modern invention.
5050Saint
Not quite as old as Socrates, but John Dunne's "No Man Is An Island" goes against this idiots idea of "creating the concept of the individual" by writing against the idea of individualism. why would Dunne write against the concept of individualism hundreds of year before the concept of the individual? The idiot is just trying to justify his sociopathy and trying to hide it as intellectual counterculture.
Ristari
That was my thought. Like what the fuck do you think philosophers have been doing for thousands of years? Also, what, you think mankind was a collection of hive minds prior to last century? Further proof that being a CEO/rich does not make you smart
PushPullMagnet
Andreessen Horowitz and 99% of VCs are psychopath billionaires
ArchaeoEejit
Him getting loaded into gilly: "There was probably nothing I could have done to avoid this"
87cubed
"I don't see how this will solve any problems!"
IWantToHugEveryCat
If individuals don't matter then we can get rid of billionaires too.
Unindoctrinated
I suppose that's one way to let everyone know you know nothing about history's great thinkers and philosophers.
gronzilla
Worse, he doesn't think that thinking exists, as a real thing of value.
wolfwilliams666
Hey yo, OP, "Empathy" and "Introspection" are not the same thing. Y'all click baitin worse than the MSM with some of these.
Indarah
I agree they are different and the title could have been better. I also think they are interconnected and improved when considering those connections. "How would I feel if I experienced " can fit in both.
d14z3p4m
introspections leads to responsibility towards others, it`s the main effect of introspection, i really hoped i didnt have to specify the obvious, jesus christ.
Kwyjor
Uh-oh, sounds like someone's trying to be introspective! /s
d14z3p4m
its really funny watching a moron trying to sound smart
Vortexhelios320
Huh?
So many things to unpack, but I'll start with the hilariously disturbing idea that somehow 'the individual' was invented only a few hundred years ago. Were we all conjoined together as one big writhing mass back in the 1600's and I just missed that day in history class?
Then, there is the idea that 'the individual' could somehow build an empire... all by themselves. Like Thutmose III was just sitting by himself on a hill of sand, and somehow that was the entirety of the Egyptian empire.
DanielAsparagus
Thank you.
iMcFly
InkyBlinkyPinkyAndClyde
I guess he just completely missed the ancient Greek philosophers who thought/lectured at length about "the individual". Like, they're pretty famous for it. And that was around 2500 years ago.
PithyCommentBelow
He’d probably realize this if he reflected on i… ohhhhhhhhh….
SkittishLittleToaster
I'm assuming there's SOME grain of truth to SOME of what he says, but he's not a trustworthy narrator so SOL.
Alternative framing: No matter what our prior lenses were, we've evolved as a society and that includes to/through concepts of guilt, justice, empathy, introspection etc. Good. Let's keep building on that.
ArchaeoEejit
Does he mean people only saw themselves as part of a society and didn't think of themselves? But it's better to not think about either? I haven't a fucking clue.
BishlamekGurpgork
I think he's saying that they thought of themselves and what was good for them moving forward, instead of turning inward and asking questions about themselves.

It's not hard to find counterexamples of introspective 'great men of history.' Marcus Aurelius has a notebook called 'Meditations' that survives. Ulysses S. Grant's personal memoirs are a brutal assessment of his own faults. Benjamin Franklin scored himself daily on thirteen categories of virtue.
InkyBlinkyPinkyAndClyde
Hahaha looks like he has trouble with "chastity". Only managed 2 chaste days in a week!!
fester9
Benjamin Franklin was a notorious poon hound. He even wrote a book which was just a semi-serious manual for young men on how to seduce older women.
InkyBlinkyPinkyAndClyde
Oh I know. It's hilarious that he was even tracking it.
BishlamekGurpgork
It's not hard to find counterexamples of introspective 'great men of history.' Marcus Aurelius has a notebook called 'Meditations' that survives. Ulysses S. Grant's personal memoirs are a brutal assessment of his own faults. Benjamin Franklin scored himself daily on thirteen categories of virtue.
d14z3p4m
chastity is a virtue?
BishlamekGurpgork
So in this sense, I guess, it goes hand in hand with moderation. Exercising moderation in sexual matters is a virtue of chastity. But separated because it concerns specific desires.
He scores poorly here, probably because he was a notorious pornhound.
BishlamekGurpgork
In Franklin's own explanation, "CHASTITY. Rarely use venery but for health or offspring, never to dulness, weakness, or the injury of your own or another’s peace or reputation."
Venery being sexual gratification. In essence, don't get your rocks off just to get your rocks off, and when you do, not so much that you lose your edge or cause chaos or hurt anybody's reputation.
d14z3p4m
that`s an understandable stance for someone born in 1790, most of that period beliefs are close to mental illness.
BishlamekGurpgork
This is likely a synthesis of Greek and Christian ideas.
The Greeks framed virtues as a moderation, and that, plus not indulging until you start failing at life or hurting the reputation of your self or others, I think holds up in the modern day. The Protestant culture prevalent in his life would treat sex for pleasure or outside wedlock as a sin, but indulging to avoid the temptation to stray was understood.
Ben took a similar stance - health and offspring were fine, and also >
BishlamekGurpgork
>indulgent acts that didn't have anything to do with either, if rare, but for functional reasons rather than religious ones.
d14z3p4m
completely false, those are puritans beliefs, indulgence was seen as presence of drives aka gods confirming mortality and humanity and divinity in ancient greece, puritans saw it as a problem, to say that the first americans were greek in beliefs is insane considering the christian church dominated europe for 1500 years at that point, and not just politically, but culturally. Benjamin had puritans roots believed in providence and a single god.