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narniasreal
I wanna punch racism in the snoot!
GodThisIsntEasy
Cue the Scooby Gang "A racist old man?!"
PicassoCT
Ripping off other comic writers that's a problem we could solve though
PmMeYourFavDinosaur
Or... or. Hugs
GeorgieThumbs
Or you can just refuse to vote democrap
jedediahjedi5
Let's keep in perspective that he had in designing some pretty sexy costumes for lady heros. Outfits that be bigotry today.
Joomuk
I think that was honestly to help sell magazines
AmArschdieRaeuber
Fucking beta cuck wants to limit my free speech! /s
f1photog
The fact that people casually throw around the N word like it’s fashionable or humorous to be racist just makes me sick.
357MAGNUM
Hear that orange ass clown?!
ChiefBeefyBoner
Classism is the same as racism,which is still a major problem
karanperson
I read in his voice
dunkyclone
houseoftrimmer6
Trumps father was a true racist. Like father like son
aerodynamit3
That means not de-platforming racists and censoring of their works. The free market of ideas will sort it out just fine.
jlist
The thought that this man has gotten tons of fan sex warms me at night.
hobobobo
Ugh
beaverlover7
If I want to be racist I’ll damn well be racist ok ! It’s my right to be what I want to be.
Cassian
But sometimes, superheroes can do just that! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUOODp8PQac Like Supes exposing the KKK as racist scum.
imgrmademeanasshole
Let’s see your true empathy when I tell you I think trumps doing an OK job.
HedonistBeard
Compared to my expectations he's doing not an "OK job" but a truly fantastic job, at showing me how misplaced my faith in humanity was.
imgrmademeanasshole
Unlike the rest of these fuckers I do respect your opinion thank you for respecting mine
TheOneWhoWasLeft
That would depend on exactly what you think his job is and who he's working for.
imgrmademeanasshole
No that makes you Intolerant and a bigot
TheOneWhoWasLeft
If someone like you thinks I am, that means I'm doing just fine. Thank you!
roskapoika
Empathy is the capacity to feel what another person is experiencing from within their frame of reference. We can understand without agreeing
imgrmademeanasshole
You made that last part up. Stop redefining words to suit your narrative
roskapoika
What do you mean? Can you not understand a without agreeing?
AuthorAD
By this posts context with regards to rascism and biogtry I'd say you are factually incorrect. Econonics aside.
imgrmademeanasshole
Just keep pissing on his grave
AuthorAD
I don’t even understand what you mean by that to be honest.
Aranon
God, I'm glad he's dead! I don't have to see his stupid self-indulgent cameos anymore!
Wierzbovsky
You think his death will stop Marvel from making his new cameos ? If anything it will probably intensify now ;]
Aranon
Welp, there it is! The most retarded thing I'll read all day, and it's only 5:13 a.m. Excellent work!
JonRichardsonsDustMop
If Tupac can do it, so can Stan Lee.
Aranon
Tupac was a superior human being than Stan Lee, and he's still dead. The world is better off for loosing Lee.
Wierzbovsky
It's past midday here - cgi characters are regular thing now - to find this retarded u mast be-or uve been sleeping under ice past 3 decades
TheLastSpaceman
News media are a primary contributor. They are owned by private interests, with no ethical oversight.
pres2pond
You know who owns most of the news media? The jews! The jews are turning us racist for money!
narniasreal
"Ethical" oversight of the media can be very dangerous. Who decides these ethics? Lots of "ethical oversight" of the media in Nazi Germany.
bluerazzgummy
iggylights
I worry less about the owners and more about the sponsors. The news gets spun to the needs of the interests paying for it.
Hackmastergeneral
I worry less about the media and more about the people who incessantly scream about it's liberal bias at the top of their lungs.
wavegirl64
On the plus side, they are staffed by journalists who follow a code of ethics. If forced to report in a certain way, they say so.
idownvoteneighbors
thats very cute
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sorosfieldops
Inherently violent ideologies can not be defeated with a good civilized debate.
Crowlands
That sure sounds like a good way to start an inherently violent ideology...
sorosfieldops
Self defense is not violence it's a necessity.
Crowlands
Self defence against... Mean words? A lot of racists, while stupid, shitty people, are not violent. They're too pathetic for that.
JustLettingPeopleBeWrong
It's important to note that he published the column this is from in 1968. Stan Lee was crazy woke for the time.
WhySoSeverusSnape
Most people knew. People just didn't adress it.
bluerazzgummy
Lol ‘bigotry and racism are bad’ was not woke in the 60s...
JustLettingPeopleBeWrong
1968 is also the same year Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. was assassinated. It was literally dangerous to say those things.
bluerazzgummy
If you were black
HandsomeSwede
That's awesome. Problem is that exposing people's bigotry often doesn't work. Trump is a great example of that.
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HandsomeSwede
Trump is not a "real bigot" now? Of course he is! And what do you mean ignored? There's plenty of public racism being called out constantly.
JustLettingPeopleBeWrong
True, but it's still important to do it.
HandsomeSwede
I agree!
benjy847
You are right, it take everyone, including racists to be willing to learn and understand why certain people think a certain way 1/2
benjy847
And over time, respect for each other with grow, and racism will be a much smaller issue than it is today
Suzuran42
But not woke enough, because people on twitter were celebrating his death because he said Spider-Man must be a cis white male.
JustLettingPeopleBeWrong
Some context: he said Peter Parker is a CIS white male, and if you want new demographics then make new heroes, rather than changing 1/
JustLettingPeopleBeWrong
existing ones. For instance, Miles Moralis is /not/ Peter Parker yet /is/ Spiderman. Do you see the difference? 2/2
Suzuran42
existing ones... which is apparently not good enough, because people still celebrated his death.
JustLettingPeopleBeWrong
Maybe, but that's because people are shit, and don't actually think about what it is that they're angry about.
InevitableBadger
Bigotry and racism was a big issue in '68
JustLettingPeopleBeWrong
Oh, massively, at least in the US. Speaking out against it could be dangerous at the time.
SayWhatYouMeanMeanWhatYouSay
That’s what made comics amazing. While other media was still tiptoeing comics started banging a god damn gong.
DelumStudios
Bigotry and racism is a big issue since time immemorial.
MrA007
Before racism we had tribalism, hate is far older than that particular brand.
DelumStudios
Its kinda the same, as in we draw imaginary lines between people based on random things.
jmpaten
I found Stan Lee, guys! He’s not dead!
Jaaybiird
I saw a post on tumblr about him being racist for not putting any color people on Marvel and I was like wtf
sorosfieldops
half of tumbler is just 4chan roleplaying SJWs, and the other half is those SJWs, it can be safely ignored.
Googol30
Tumblr will complain about anything.
Crowlands
The big thing is that he opposed changing the ethnicities of already established characters. He wanted NEW black/asian/Whatever heroes.
forelle
If you hand out free megaphones, chances are that it will fall in the hands of one person stupid enough to use it in the middle of the night
Jaaybiird
This is the best, most accurate comment I've ever read
HedonistBeard
That's why I only hand out free megaphones with built in noise activated explosives that are automatically armed between 2200 and 0700.
Someshithead241
Did they just ignore black panther, blade, storm, miles Morales etc etc. May not all be written by him, but allowed by him.
jedediahjedi5
It was no different then when Black Panther came out. You'd think it was the first Black superhero movie ever. Blade was forgotten.
Someshithead241
Spawn and Steel too
myimor
Blade, in the movies, never felt like a superhero. Just a protagonist hero.
jedediahjedi5
I can see that but he did have all the powers Black Panther had though right? Strength,Speed, reflexes, weapons.
myimor
He had the powers of a vampire, which to most people is a separate thing from superheroes
benjy847
Problem, when you are brought up to think a certain way, you truly believe that you are right, but when people berate you and call you 1/?
benjy847
learning and understanding why people think a certain way, and respecting it. Calling them evil and wrong all the time is just going 3/?
benjy847
evil or wrong because of the way you think, it cements it even more and leaves them closed off to open mindedness. It takes people 2/?
NotABadLookingNarcissist
But calling someone who says or does racist things, a racist, isn’t berating or hating them. It’s just calling it like it is.
benjy847
You're not wrong, its when people are agressive amd hateful towards racists its a probelm. When people start beating racists in the
benjy847
street, then they are no better than the racists at that point, and all it does is reinforce their ideologies.
NotABadLookingNarcissist
Okay. Agreed. I don’t see that happening very often.
benjy847
Hate you and not want to listen to what you have to say. By not respecting the way others think, you are yourself, being closed minded. 4/4
DorthLous
https://www.npr.org/2017/08/20/544861933/how-one-man-convinced-200-ku-klux-klan-members-to-give-up-their-robes
DorthLous
Those people show the way it should be done.
benjy847
I listened to his TED talk, he is one of the biggest influences for my views on open mindedness. If you haven't listened to it, you should.
DorthLous
https://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/black-woman-recalls-day-saved-alleged-kkk-member-mob-article-1.1501050
benjy847
+1 Bigotry goes both ways
Crowlands
And yet some people tried to claim he was racist, Because he said that Peter Parker in the movies should be a straight white male...
Crowlands
He said that people should make more characters of different ethnicities, not change existing characters' ethnicities.
CarpeMofo
He wanted characters where it was part of their identity, not just a pallet swap to feel 'diverse'.
kubi
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Musoukadake
The miles morales movie looks door tho
Musoukadake
Dope*
AknottheMangalore
Ok thanks for that correction that way I dont say to my son Thats door dude and get a crazy look. Hip?
heartlessninja6
Thank god, I thought it was more of that random gibberish slang kids use now
Crowlands
It does. So long as he's recognised as his own, separate character, I like it. It's when he's just "Black Spiderman" that irks me.
Musoukadake
Well he is the “black spiderman,” isn’t he...?
Renovin
He's the kid who was inspired by a dead Peter to pick up his mantle and try to be worthy of being called Spider-Man. Also, half black/latin.
Crowlands
I'm sure, if asked, he'd have mandated that Black Panther or Storm be black in the movies too.
Xaizer
He did indeed say that. Basically his stance was make new characters, don't change existing ones.
thor0486
why not change existing ones for the better? I wonder what Jack Kirby would say to that?
Crowlands
"For the better"? When we're discussing races, that... That's pretty poorly worded, buddy.
thor0486
You're not wrong, I could have definitely worded that better.
thesmelge
Wait, Storm is black? I always thought she was somewhere between black and white. I mean, it makes no difference what colour she is 1/2
thesmelge
Oh, I am writing myself into a racist sounding corner here, so I'm giving the fuck up. 2/2
Crowlands
And no, asking what race a fictional character is (Or even a real person for that matter) isn't racist.
Crowlands
She's mixed race. Mother's a Kenyan princess, Father's an American journalist.
AurikNecal
First: Dont be a bitch. Second: Storm is literally from rural Africa if memory serves right. So, yes, she should be black.
Sauroctonus
Are you saying there are no white people at all in rural Africa? Because there will be some.
Crowlands
Her mother's the princess of some Kenyan tribe, her Father's an American journalist. She was born in Manhattan.
thesmelge
Not so much being a bitch, but not being able to get across my point without it sounding really bad. Fuck it, I didn't read comics 1/
AurikNecal
There can be some room for hybridization depending on background circumstances because white people did go around a lot.