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Jan 15, 2021 5:49 AM
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eclyptix
Will explain when you're older kiddo
thespyisdead
Hey... Blowjobs are better than no jobs
Keitek
And Lindsey Graham was apart of both of them and guess which one he found impeachable...
butiwasgoingintotoschestationtopickupsomepowerconverters
1. Ignoring Congress. 2. Consensual sexual acts. 3. Bribery. 4. Traitorous sedition that led to a police officer being beaten to death.
lifeisadadjoke
Sweet jeebuz, right? Johnson and Kennedy nuked the first two. After that, it's a whole lot of T****.
ConstipatedVirgin
tanebot
Well you know, it's not like Trump would ever do such a thing. *cough*without*paying*for*it*cough*
rijstewafels
Different times... Memories... Clinton with his sax, laughing with jeltsin. And bush was the worst president ever
AgnosticPaladin
Until 4 years ago, yes.
alfmeister6227
Lets just say his reputation was stained.
briham86
As a textbook editor, I would phrase it as “lying about an inappropriate relationship with a staffer.”
pyro5050
he was impeached for Lying under oath, not for the blowjob.
frugalandhappy
Never cheat on your wife if you’re a Democrat! Only Republicans can do it!
1Plebian
It's not the cheating, it's the intern part. I mean, did we suddenly change standards for sexual conduct between bosses and empoyeees?
GreenGaeasSon
Perjury... Doesn't minimizing the crimes of a serial sexual predator only DISTRACT from calling out Trump as a seditious fascist?
lucky13kenny
Lied under oath
duramater1
You know why Trump’s lawyers would it let him testify under oath? BC Clinton was impeached for doing it. Precedent was set.
shamest
Lying under oath However Trump lying makes him a Saint
dfsmitty0711
Please stop saying it was just about a BJ. It's false and these falsehoods feed into the "both-sides" bullshit.
AgnosticPaladin
Right, it was about lying about a blowjob. Now please tell us why a blowjob merits more investigation than bribery, blackmail and sedition.
dfsmitty0711
Close. It was about lying *under oath* about a blowjob and getting someone else to lie under oath (a.k.a. obstruction of justice).
AgnosticPaladin
Right. Not saying that impeachment was wrong.I think the investigation was. You didn't answered my question.
dfsmitty0711
I never claimed that one merits investigation more than the other, so there's nothing for me to answer.
acetylcysteine
Depends on what the meaning of ‘is’ is...
MisterLemons
He operates like Russia. Says he wants something and his cult makes it happen while he denies involvement after rigging an election.
lavoleous
I want to know how that child pronounced that misplaced apostrophe in "thing's".
twisteddkarma
itsthevoiceman
He perjured himself.
StSword1
No, he technically didn't. 1) The court had defined sex to not include getting oral sex, and 2) it wasn't actually materially pertinent.
Smurge
He cheated on his wife and lied about it - answer I've given to my 5th graders. You don't have to get into graphic detail.
Imadethisaccounttopost
Because on America the natural act of sex and arousal is worse than violence, fucking puritan wasp values..
Imadethisaccounttopost
We were based in puritan values, but they are out dated and should no longer be a part of our society
TCGView
He lied under oath which is obviously a crime and impeachable.
lemmesmashplease
He lied under oath during a civil deposition in which he was being accused of sexual harassment by Paula Jones.
lemmesmashplease
Clinton was/is a scumbag.
Gorgrim
And inciting a coup isn't a crime?
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Gorgrim
You people who think everything is equally bad. One was bad, and the other was terrible and should land him in jail. Plus when you have >
Gorgrim
someone crying about witch hunts for years, and compare that to someone impeached for lying about an affair, no they are not equal.
Gorgrim
Plus you have Reps saying the idiot shouldn't be impeached for inciting violence in the capital... If you want to make an example regarding>
TCGView
I never said that it wasn't.
bluerazzgummy
Ask a Trumper seriously, what COULD trump do that they thing he should be impeached for? In 2016 they would have easily said insurrection
CatsUpvoteTerror
Perjury
somnif
He lied under oath. Simple enough, really. (which is why they've worked so hard to keep 45 from EVER having to appear under oath)
thornus67
They didn't even impeach him for the clear lie in the Jones depo. They impeached for a wordgame answer from the Starr investigation.
thornus67
4 arts were introduced. Only impeached on 2: perjury and obstruction of justice in Starr inv. & he prob didn't do those given legal the defs
safetyrazorbacks
Lying under oath in a RAPE investigation. I wish people would stop normalizing Clinton’s behavior just to make a point.
Djjazzyhorn
Yes you are correct. I agree also I'm just glad non of Trump's many rape investigations went to court.
thatscool22
Sexual harassment not rape. And the Clinton investigation was an actual witch hunt. They started with his real estate buying in AR.
mardukkur
That's not true.
ThatCynicalHandsomeGuy
Nobody is normalizing it, they're pointing out that it's impossible to believe at this point that the GOP actually cared about it.
samurai77
You fucking lying cunt bag, it was consensual, wrong but consensual. You lying pissbag.
becauseurwrong
Sadly you have to tell that kid about adultery & lying under oath instead of what should have been punishment for a very powerful old man-
becauseurwrong
pressuring a young woman intern into sex, because the country is still so shitty to women I've read a million "lol blowjob" jokes this week
GnomeHomo
Ok, what should've been the punishment for Clinton regarding the Lewinsky incident in your opinion?
bubbawasmybestgoodfriend
nothing wrong with a little head
straikychan
- Hasan Piker, 2021
lifeisadadjoke
Not unless you lie about it. If for some reason I don't stay with my current gf, I will have to lie about it forever.
GeofrontTmP
Kingaby
I think the difference in age and power gives it a very creepy edge tbh. And it was the lie not the head that got him impeached.
becauseurwrong
Unless it's from a young woman intern afraid to say no to the most powerful man in the country. I was sure we understood consent here.
kozzillakilla
Humiliating her in front of the entire country was totally the right way to go about it
LeftRightThere
mikeatc
Unless the Genie misunderstands the wish
alex5775
Well... He was cheating on his wife. Is it wrong? Usually, but I don't know the personal dynamic between Hillary and Bill. There's also 1/
alex5775
A "Louis CK" type issue where she may have felt pressured to say yes due to the huge power gap. Should it be impeachable? Probably not 2/
alex5775
But I certainly wouldn't blame anyone for not voting bill again because of it
becauseurwrong
You just said pressured/coerced sex (which some call rape still) isn't impeachable?
alex5775
To be honest, I think it should be but we live in a backwards ass country and it's an ethically difficult to navigate area, so I don't 1/
alex5775
Think it really is. This is just speculation, but it's speculation I based my original comment on, I don't think he directly pressured 2/
Chaapai
Don’t forget that most of the men who went after Clinton were also adulterous scum bags like Gingrich.
bochikiniki
The reason it became an issue was that Bill lied about it. If you was honest it probably wouldn't have gained much traction
marsgoose
He wasn't impeached for being an adulterous scumbag, that's kinda in job description when you go to DC.
in9119iwas
and paid them hush money
Awmph
bUt I Didn'T lIe tO ConGResS AbOuT It
malurt
Again, a rich white guy with a weird name.
TsubakiTragic
Ahhh, now there's a turd burglar's name I haven't heard for a long time. +1
NuclearButtPlugFromPlanetX
So funny--I was arguing with my racist Trumpet uncle via text yesterday. He brought up Clinton and his alleged abuse of women. (1)
NuclearButtPlugFromPlanetX
And I had to remind him I was too young to vote for Clinton. I am 40 years old. (2)
CrazierConspiraciesThanTrump
They just Jelly cause he got head
AnythingMuchShorter
They were also throwing a lot of accusations at democrats for trying to set up a perjury trap for trump. As usual they were projecting,
AnythingMuchShorter
since the entire Clinton impeachment was done with a perjury trap, since the BJ itself wasn't illegal but politically damaging.
jayar1st
It's not a trap. All he had to do was not have an affair and not lie to Congress.
AnythingMuchShorter
A perjury trap would inherently rely on you having done something you wouldn't want to admit.
jayar1st
That doesn't make it a trap. He did something immoral and lied to Congress about it.
1Plebian
Yeah but they did it with call girls and in back room strip joints because they had respect for the country.
amateurlapse
To be fair, his wife was dying of cancer at the time, I don’t see how he had a choice
TwoFacedSonOfAJackal
Tunisia
I mean, that actually is kind of better. Abusing the office of president and power imbalance which comes with it is worse than just paying.
Excludos
Just because you're in a position of power doesn't mean you're abusing a power imbalance if you have consensual sex with someone
Tunisia
There is arguably no such thing as consensual when there's a power imbalance of that magnitude. e.g. no cop should have sex with any (1)
Tunisia
arrestee or prisoner because there is no way to separate the power imbalance and dynamic from the circumstance. (2)
Excludos
The worst part of this story is what happened to the girl herself afterwards, who got her life absolutely ruined by death threats
pinatafarmer
And call boys
Pokegeologist
They called those boys interns.
EatYourSoylentGreenAndShutUp
GrmpyWzzrd
Why are so many people in power so perverted anyway? It can't be a coincidence
Nuttsy
You got a million bucks and there's a hot piece of ass in front of you. What do you do next?
GrmpyWzzrd
Enjoy my money and treat other people with dignity and don't sexually harass them
Nuttsy
...fair.
TalostheGreat
I think that a good person usually doesn't seek power... But that's just my opinion
GrmpyWzzrd
If you want to change things forthe wellbeing of others who are treated unjust and not yourself I think its a good thing. Eg Nelson Mandela
ishimura1412
We’re all perverts deep inside, they just have the money and power to actually try some of that stuff without consequences, so they do it.
GrmpyWzzrd
Sorry but i disagree, I don't think that money and possibility are the only factors making us perverts and wanna fuck kids or rape people.
Saajix
Which is why the US largest secret market is human trafficking, and pedophilia.
alex5775
I don't think that's true. I'm tired of this "humans are actually inherently shitty" narrative. It's bullshit. Humans aren't inherently 1/
alex5775
A whole lot. We're very unpredictable because our evolutionary niche is a greatly enhanced ability to learn. We aren't all shitty, but 2/
Mistruths
weird how you're taking "humans are perverts" to mean "humans are scum"
criablelurst
A lust for Power attracts that sort of person. You want power for what reason, at the core? To get sexual satisfaction from whatever it is
GrmpyWzzrd
Reminds me of the biography of mitch McConnell I saw here the other day. He basically gets an erection when he gets power over other people
criablelurst
that turns you on. The more disgusting/illegal the more power and money required. (Not just political, organised crime power too)
2074red2074
It wasn't about the affair. He was sued for sexual harassment. The plaintiff's lawyer wanted to establish a pattern of behavior, so they 1/3
Chaapai
You’re right. That’s an important fact to remember.
2074red2074
added Monica Lewinsky to their witnesses. Clinton said he had never had sexual relations or an affair or anything with her, which was 2/3
2074red2074
false. But he said that under oath. He was impeached for lying under oath & obstruction of justice.The nature of the lie wasn't relevant.3/3
thatscool22
He said he didn’t have sexual relations with Monica. How they defined sexual relations left out oral. So he didn’t lie under oath.
Whelpthisisawkward2
And then they solve this for trump by preventing him from ever being under oath. Smh that first impeachment trial was a sham
MillerLitesaber
I wonder how history is going to look at the turn-of-the-millennium period America is now exiting. Will info like THIS survive a generation?
wolverine9000
The problem will be the disinformation. If someone does research will they find the truth or the lie
AlwaysFavoriteAsian
It hasn’t already.
mardukkur
Well lets not forget he was "sued for sexual harassment" by an obvious bullshit stalking horse for Ken Starr's peepee hunt.
2074red2074
Not relevant. You can't lie under oath nor can you bully others into lying for you.
iusedtodream
And they were monstrous to Monica. Zero restraint, respect, or decency.
xirbitzy
She had the audacity of being a woman, everything is permitted then. /s
CaptnVonClapp
Democrats and Republicans alike on that count. Slow Burn is a great podcast on the subject.
StrangerRangerDanger
yeah, watch her Ted talk about bullies. not enough people held Bill to the same level of ridicule, and he was older and her boss....
Venusflytripp
Whats up with these PR spins? They both showed zero restraint, respect or decency to the 1st lady or offices they held.
Venusflytripp
*Jobs and offices
Philosophyinateacup
Remember the time Tom Green and Monica Lewinsky got together and organized a press conference in Ottawa to promote a line of her purses
INeverWaitForIt
They had a lot of practice being monstrous to Chelsea. R's have never held their officials to ANY sort of standard.
ogbiggnutz
Even attacked for her appearance, i always thought and still think she was very pretty...she didn't deserve all that hate
Anfalicious
Teach will be like: oh, he raped an employee, but everyone just thought she was a slut for 20 years, so he was impeached for getting the bj
PraiseThePook
She deserved better. From all of us.
Bugkeeper
Monica impressed me, esp. with not changing her name etc., bc. "Bill would not change his either". Lotsa backbone!
wolf387465
she is quite active lately, had interview with john oliver, amongst others... https://youtu.be/Yq7Eh6JTKIg
wolf387465
or https://www.ted.com/talks/monica_lewinsky_the_price_of_shame
hickchick19817
I think she’s on that new show, Masked Dancer! Has anyone watched yet???
Gofdunk
They say the Clintons are still disparaging her and acting like hypocrites to this day.
rainbowjo
Do you think if it happened today, people would react differently? I would hope so, but the world still seems awful.
Rayxzerox
I do think so. I can't say by how much, but if nothing, the internet would have prevented the complete domination of the narrative.
kozzillakilla
Melania literally has nude photos online.
alex5775
It honestly depends on what letter is next to the name of the adulterer who is caught
wolf387465
oh yes, it would be much easier in the age of online bullying over the phone. ;) john oliver on this exact topic, including her interview:
wolf387465
https://youtu.be/Yq7Eh6JTKIg
wombatmcgee
No. I'm from North Carolina and this state elected walking garbage Thom Tillis because his opponent Cal Cunningham sent some PG "sexts" 1/
HelpfulCorn
I wish he could have kept it in his pants just a bit longer. Frickin Thom Tillis
wombatmcgee
to a woman who is not his wife. Someone keeps tagging the street signs in my town with "Cal Adulter" (sic) even though he lost. /2
lifeisadadjoke
What impressed me there...her strength and resolve. Big props to Monica...that was tough life afteward.
NotTinyPancakes
She doesn't seem to take herself too seriously now as well making jokes about it, strong woman she's become or resilient i'd guess.
thoushaltnotpass
This incident completely skewed the public's perception of her but she couldn't allow herself to be the victim indefinitely.
LurkerMcLurkface
Her TED talk is impressive.
LurkerMcLurkface
Who? Who downvoted this?
wolf387465
also john oliver interview: https://youtu.be/Yq7Eh6JTKIg
SecretlyThreeDucksInAManSuit
That interview was super eye opening. About how a person can be so easily reduced to the butt of a joke, dehumanised.
awesomeflyingunicorn
https://youtu.be/H_8y0WLm78U
notanotheruselessusername
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lifeisadadjoke
Yep...there's the start to a larger universe. Next stop...TED Talk from Randy Pausch. That was the one the kick-started me.
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