Apr 19, 2017 3:36 AM
yack
97388
1592
82
maximusdelirious
Technically, in a long enough time scale, everything's a liquid.
BigBearLover
Why not bring a PET bottle with gas instead? Isnt there a gas that explode when you mix it with water and set it on fire?
Matthew550
ITS FUCKING CALLED ICE
mysteriouslikeness
I forgot I had metal bedazzled on my back gene pockets and they had to touch in tender places. Asked if I wanted private. I said no.
WyattEarp1
why not just bring an empty bottle and fill up at the water fountain?
beergolem
Now do it with supercritical water.
WhiteGuy021
Just get Pre-Check already. Its $85 and you don't get raped as bad.
whoaiknowkungfu
TSA...
idieeverytime
Apparently it is fine as long as it hasn't melted at all.
BadBoldBigNosedBiblicalBrother
She better hope she's white, otherwise she's gonna get guatanmoed
blerghcity
I was thinking the same thing, 95% chance a white person did this
Dinglehoofer
They even took my Kasundi once. Kasundi ffs
Sm9yCg
They just have to detain her long enough, though
Strostkovy
That's how you end up arguing for four hours until 3 oz of your ice has melted
RVME
When you play cards with TSA, they ALWAYS win.
combatwombat0
@OP now i want some pictorial evidence for that last tag
Idosss
At 15 I transported 5 bottle rockets and a lighter though airport security in my bags and pants respectively.
Capsulex21
romanaclef
But is that an argument that's worth having with the TSA? (Guidelines be damned...) They have the right to interrupt your passage...
They seem very reasonable and intelligent.
flarflarf
The entire point of the liquids ban was binary explosives. The liquid parts to those do not freeze. The lady should have been cleared to go.
AlectinibMacitentan
"But what if I am confident I can produce three plus ounces on the flight?" - Will Forte SNL
SaltyInternetPirate
That's an easy way to get a flashlight shoved up your ass at the airport.
Purtypreencess7
"scuse me i gots teh check yo asshole"
TracyAllenParks
don't forget to throw that water bottle away in the giant garbage can next to the TSA in the most congested area, in case it's an explosive
notmyfirstrodeo
Technically right is the best right....
PizzaGovorun
Actually, I was transporting my catch and had a few frozen soda bottles in with it fully expecting to leave them at the checkpoint. 1/2
TSA workers said it was OK since they were frozen solid. Go figure! v
streptovsky
Liquid explosives don't freeze. At least not at a temperature that's sustainable enough to keep it solid thru screening.
Really? What about nitroglycerin? Or what about a plastic bag with explosives frozen into ice?
therealVexed
What d you mean frozen not ice. The explosive liquids can't freeze he just said that.
Nitroglycerin is too volatile to make it through the screening process, and any other liquid explosive has too low of a freezing point.
TSA allows frozen drinks... liquid explosives don't freeze, it's not a security risk.
gener8xor
Wait, I can take dry ice on a plane with me?
Technically no. The TSA probably won't stop it but airlines don't allow it. Doesn't take much to fill a plane with co2
You underestimate my freezer
swefur
Nitroglycerin freezes at 14 degrees Celsius.
Nitroglycerin is EXTREMELY volatile and would not make it thru the checkpoint.
giraffeinamonkeysuit
To be fair, it doesn't seem to look like ice though. However, sauce is merely google
n8wishim
Since when do TSA agents act according of their own written rules and not the mood of the day?
Most of them follow procedure like they're supposed to. Especially in bigger airports.
And yet there's tons of reports where they don't and I fail to observe consequences for these individuals on power trips.
Vocal minority, bruh. Also what exactly would you have them do? Fire them for making a passenger throw away a frozen bottle of water? lol
PunsOfQuickening
She right on all counts. Physic wins
iamlikelytoforgetthis
Also, lip balm. Not a liquid
smitmp024
Physic win, grammar lose
I'm very drunk ,shut ip
Why did you delete your comment? I wanted to uselessly argue over nothing...
lysomaru
Wait, what? I'm not seeing anything got deleted.
TheRealBenderBendingRodriguez
I'll take one physic please. ...know what? better make it a dozen; got some sciencing to do.
AVeryTinyGyrados
STRONG WANT HUMAN TO HELP FIND MILK OF HUMAN KINDNESS
Rifneno
Strong was such a disappointment after the awesomeness that is Fawkes.
Strong was a normal super mutant. Fawkes was highly intelligent.
1-"Normal" is relative. How smart a super mutant is is directly proportionate to how much radioactivity they've been exposed to over their
EdwardDTeach
do you want to get detained for a special screening? This is how you get detained for a special screening.
whenlifegivesyouherpes
I want to get detained for a special screening pls
TasteyourTears
Maybe they haven't felt the touch of another person in a while...
TallonMaguire
Same
byohzzrd
Traveling to Vegas got me held for additional screening like 4-5 times. And it had nothing to do with me being dark complexioned.
Ruhig
"You gonna put down the water, lady? Or are we gonna have to get real... SPECIAL here?"
mibango
Or are we gonna have to get real... ANAL here?
seemetrollinh8in
By the time they're done probing all her places, it'll be liquid again
GodOfTheBumbleBees
Is that where they do buttstuff to you for free?
sailingthesoutherncross
I got pulled aside for special screening because of some hardware in my leg.
mnorthwood13
I got pulled out because my sock bunched up...
Youre one of those goddamn SYNTHS
Sometimes I feel like it too, except I most definately feel pain.
imsecretlyacactus
I got searched because they thought I had a taser in my backpack. It was an iPod charger
SexDungeonsandDragons
Are you that one Terminator that posed as a teacher in The Sarah Connor Chronicles?
Yeah, that's me.
Pseudomenos
I forgot to mention my toothpaste once. My brother chimed in saying that technically it wasn't a liquid. Had to apologize for him to avoid
Angering the TSA agent too much
BagOfHangers
It's a gel. Liquids, gels, and aerosols over 3.4 ounces are not compliant.
They took my toothpaste too on my first time flight. I just bought it. What is it that they so afraid? Is it gonna explode in flight? Jeez
PleasantPeasantPheasant
Because the outside of a contained does not define what's inside it. My bottle of water contains tap water instead of bottled water.
Totallyscrewedinaustin
Really? My bottle of water contains vodka!
FireSt0rm9
I asked them once, it's about what COULD be in that container instead what actually IS in it.
Ok that make sense
DamianWinters
its just assholes ruining it for everyone. One person probably had some exploding toothpaste so now noone can bring it on board.
Well i have exploding clothes enjoy flying naked!
honeyham420glazeit
"Frozen items are allowed through the checkpoint as long as they are frozen solid when presented for screening." http://imgur.com/f1Evgn3
LowKeyTroll
But dry ice, the one and only component of mailbox booms, is cool? (I know it says "ventilated" but that's pretty easy to alter later)
got me, too.
HolyHolopov
Okay, and what is with the zip-lock bag? It's not an amount, just a measure of how well different things stack.
It would be pretty fucked up if this wasn't the case, since most solids can be considered "frozen liquids".
istealthepixelsfromreposts
"Most"
p75369
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sublimation_(phase_transition)
And the comments was about liquids.
If a solid sublimates, then it is never a liquid and so cannot be considered "frozen liquid". So only "most" solids are "frozen liquid".
ShaneEngland
Carbon doesn't turn into a liquid it goes straight to a gas
My point was that most is an exaggeration, since there are a lot of solids that do not have a liquid state.
agreeable, few would have been a better choice
Source: The TSA website. It's not a loophole, it's explicitly allowed.
somenerandom
You did read the last paragraph, right? At the end of the day it's a judgement call of theirs whether or not they allow it.
Resurrectionist
Well yeah, but that's only there so they don't have to follow their own rules, and can claim to be in the right even when they fuck up
2/2 security is a very serious thing. I'd much rather passengers are minorly inconvenienced every now and then than face the alternative.
Granted, but it's still "allowed", at least as much as any object can be, with that clause in place.
Theodrian
That would suggest that Security Theater actually helps, when it seldom does.
TheGreatResurrectorofThreads
That's how you get 1984 mate
Nepsin
Lol, give up liberty for security and have neither. Congrats mate
I would argue it's there because no set of rules, regardless of how extensive, can cover all bases and be impossible to circumvent.Flight1/2
IridescentLotus
Yeah that frozen rule is probably to help breast milk comply for trips
SuperEasyBarelyAnInconvenience
What if you have water in the super state of gas/liquid/solid?
idonotthinkitownswhatyouthinkitowns
I'm sorry but you can't take that glass of water onboard. But that plasma cutter is fine.
ct06033
I think at that point it wouldn't be let on cause it would combust EVERYTHING from the extreme heat.
It's not heat that causes triple point but pressure.
SaucyFineBolognaFactory
the triple point for water is just 0.01 °C
InstructionsUnclearSummonedCthulhu
Is the existence of a material at its triple-point called a super state?
Not sure. Lil drunk and forgot it's called triple point. =D
Im a little drunk too and I was like "WHOA! Did I miss a more badass term for this?!"
Nah like I said I'm drunk and it sounded right lol.
I mixed up shrodingers cat with triple point.
Could be argued that we only know what state it's in when we measure the triple point.
maximusdelirious
Technically, in a long enough time scale, everything's a liquid.
yack
BigBearLover
Why not bring a PET bottle with gas instead? Isnt there a gas that explode when you mix it with water and set it on fire?
Matthew550
ITS FUCKING CALLED ICE
mysteriouslikeness
I forgot I had metal bedazzled on my back gene pockets and they had to touch in tender places. Asked if I wanted private. I said no.
WyattEarp1
why not just bring an empty bottle and fill up at the water fountain?
beergolem
Now do it with supercritical water.
WhiteGuy021
Just get Pre-Check already. Its $85 and you don't get raped as bad.
whoaiknowkungfu
TSA...
idieeverytime
Apparently it is fine as long as it hasn't melted at all.
BadBoldBigNosedBiblicalBrother
She better hope she's white, otherwise she's gonna get guatanmoed
blerghcity
I was thinking the same thing, 95% chance a white person did this
Dinglehoofer
They even took my Kasundi once. Kasundi ffs
Sm9yCg
They just have to detain her long enough, though
Strostkovy
That's how you end up arguing for four hours until 3 oz of your ice has melted
RVME
When you play cards with TSA, they ALWAYS win.
combatwombat0
@OP now i want some pictorial evidence for that last tag
Idosss
At 15 I transported 5 bottle rockets and a lighter though airport security in my bags and pants respectively.
Capsulex21
romanaclef
But is that an argument that's worth having with the TSA? (Guidelines be damned...) They have the right to interrupt your passage...
Capsulex21
They seem very reasonable and intelligent.
flarflarf
The entire point of the liquids ban was binary explosives. The liquid parts to those do not freeze. The lady should have been cleared to go.
AlectinibMacitentan
"But what if I am confident I can produce three plus ounces on the flight?" - Will Forte SNL
SaltyInternetPirate
That's an easy way to get a flashlight shoved up your ass at the airport.
Purtypreencess7
"scuse me i gots teh check yo asshole"
TracyAllenParks
don't forget to throw that water bottle away in the giant garbage can next to the TSA in the most congested area, in case it's an explosive
notmyfirstrodeo
Technically right is the best right....
PizzaGovorun
Actually, I was transporting my catch and had a few frozen soda bottles in with it fully expecting to leave them at the checkpoint. 1/2
PizzaGovorun
TSA workers said it was OK since they were frozen solid. Go figure!
v
streptovsky
Liquid explosives don't freeze. At least not at a temperature that's sustainable enough to keep it solid thru screening.
PizzaGovorun
Really? What about nitroglycerin? Or what about a plastic bag with explosives frozen into ice?
therealVexed
What d you mean frozen not ice. The explosive liquids can't freeze he just said that.
streptovsky
Nitroglycerin is too volatile to make it through the screening process, and any other liquid explosive has too low of a freezing point.
streptovsky
TSA allows frozen drinks... liquid explosives don't freeze, it's not a security risk.
gener8xor
Wait, I can take dry ice on a plane with me?
streptovsky
Technically no. The TSA probably won't stop it but airlines don't allow it. Doesn't take much to fill a plane with co2
Strostkovy
You underestimate my freezer
swefur
Nitroglycerin freezes at 14 degrees Celsius.
streptovsky
Nitroglycerin is EXTREMELY volatile and would not make it thru the checkpoint.
giraffeinamonkeysuit
To be fair, it doesn't seem to look like ice though. However, sauce is merely google
n8wishim
Since when do TSA agents act according of their own written rules and not the mood of the day?
streptovsky
Most of them follow procedure like they're supposed to. Especially in bigger airports.
n8wishim
And yet there's tons of reports where they don't and I fail to observe consequences for these individuals on power trips.
streptovsky
Vocal minority, bruh. Also what exactly would you have them do? Fire them for making a passenger throw away a frozen bottle of water? lol
PunsOfQuickening
She right on all counts. Physic wins
iamlikelytoforgetthis
Also, lip balm. Not a liquid
smitmp024
Physic win, grammar lose
PunsOfQuickening
I'm very drunk ,shut ip
PunsOfQuickening
Why did you delete your comment? I wanted to uselessly argue over nothing...
lysomaru
Wait, what? I'm not seeing anything got deleted.
TheRealBenderBendingRodriguez
I'll take one physic please. ...know what? better make it a dozen; got some sciencing to do.
AVeryTinyGyrados
STRONG WANT HUMAN TO HELP FIND MILK OF HUMAN KINDNESS
Rifneno
Strong was such a disappointment after the awesomeness that is Fawkes.
AVeryTinyGyrados
Strong was a normal super mutant. Fawkes was highly intelligent.
Rifneno
1-"Normal" is relative. How smart a super mutant is is directly proportionate to how much radioactivity they've been exposed to over their
EdwardDTeach
do you want to get detained for a special screening? This is how you get detained for a special screening.
whenlifegivesyouherpes
I want to get detained for a special screening pls
TasteyourTears
Maybe they haven't felt the touch of another person in a while...
TallonMaguire
Same
byohzzrd
Traveling to Vegas got me held for additional screening like 4-5 times. And it had nothing to do with me being dark complexioned.
Ruhig
"You gonna put down the water, lady? Or are we gonna have to get real... SPECIAL here?"
mibango
Or are we gonna have to get real... ANAL here?
seemetrollinh8in
By the time they're done probing all her places, it'll be liquid again
GodOfTheBumbleBees
Is that where they do buttstuff to you for free?
sailingthesoutherncross
I got pulled aside for special screening because of some hardware in my leg.
mnorthwood13
I got pulled out because my sock bunched up...
combatwombat0
Youre one of those goddamn SYNTHS
sailingthesoutherncross
Sometimes I feel like it too, except I most definately feel pain.
imsecretlyacactus
I got searched because they thought I had a taser in my backpack. It was an iPod charger
SexDungeonsandDragons
Are you that one Terminator that posed as a teacher in The Sarah Connor Chronicles?
sailingthesoutherncross
Yeah, that's me.
Pseudomenos
I forgot to mention my toothpaste once. My brother chimed in saying that technically it wasn't a liquid. Had to apologize for him to avoid
Pseudomenos
Angering the TSA agent too much
BagOfHangers
It's a gel. Liquids, gels, and aerosols over 3.4 ounces are not compliant.
lysomaru
They took my toothpaste too on my first time flight. I just bought it. What is it that they so afraid? Is it gonna explode in flight? Jeez
PleasantPeasantPheasant
Because the outside of a contained does not define what's inside it. My bottle of water contains tap water instead of bottled water.
Totallyscrewedinaustin
Really? My bottle of water contains vodka!
FireSt0rm9
I asked them once, it's about what COULD be in that container instead what actually IS in it.
lysomaru
Ok that make sense
DamianWinters
its just assholes ruining it for everyone. One person probably had some exploding toothpaste so now noone can bring it on board.
mibango
Well i have exploding clothes enjoy flying naked!
honeyham420glazeit
"Frozen items are allowed through the checkpoint as long as they are frozen solid when presented for screening." http://imgur.com/f1Evgn3
LowKeyTroll
But dry ice, the one and only component of mailbox booms, is cool? (I know it says "ventilated" but that's pretty easy to alter later)
Purtypreencess7
got me, too.
HolyHolopov
Okay, and what is with the zip-lock bag? It's not an amount, just a measure of how well different things stack.
swefur
It would be pretty fucked up if this wasn't the case, since most solids can be considered "frozen liquids".
istealthepixelsfromreposts
"Most"
p75369
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sublimation_(phase_transition)
istealthepixelsfromreposts
And the comments was about liquids.
p75369
If a solid sublimates, then it is never a liquid and so cannot be considered "frozen liquid". So only "most" solids are "frozen liquid".
ShaneEngland
Carbon doesn't turn into a liquid it goes straight to a gas
istealthepixelsfromreposts
My point was that most is an exaggeration, since there are a lot of solids that do not have a liquid state.
ShaneEngland
agreeable, few would have been a better choice
honeyham420glazeit
Source: The TSA website. It's not a loophole, it's explicitly allowed.
somenerandom
You did read the last paragraph, right? At the end of the day it's a judgement call of theirs whether or not they allow it.
Resurrectionist
Well yeah, but that's only there so they don't have to follow their own rules, and can claim to be in the right even when they fuck up
somenerandom
2/2 security is a very serious thing. I'd much rather passengers are minorly inconvenienced every now and then than face the alternative.
Resurrectionist
Granted, but it's still "allowed", at least as much as any object can be, with that clause in place.
Theodrian
That would suggest that Security Theater actually helps, when it seldom does.
TheGreatResurrectorofThreads
That's how you get 1984 mate
Nepsin
Lol, give up liberty for security and have neither. Congrats mate
somenerandom
I would argue it's there because no set of rules, regardless of how extensive, can cover all bases and be impossible to circumvent.Flight1/2
IridescentLotus
Yeah that frozen rule is probably to help breast milk comply for trips
SuperEasyBarelyAnInconvenience
What if you have water in the super state of gas/liquid/solid?
idonotthinkitownswhatyouthinkitowns
I'm sorry but you can't take that glass of water onboard. But that plasma cutter is fine.
ct06033
I think at that point it wouldn't be let on cause it would combust EVERYTHING from the extreme heat.
SuperEasyBarelyAnInconvenience
It's not heat that causes triple point but pressure.
SaucyFineBolognaFactory
the triple point for water is just 0.01 °C
InstructionsUnclearSummonedCthulhu
Is the existence of a material at its triple-point called a super state?
SuperEasyBarelyAnInconvenience
Not sure. Lil drunk and forgot it's called triple point. =D
InstructionsUnclearSummonedCthulhu
Im a little drunk too and I was like "WHOA! Did I miss a more badass term for this?!"
SuperEasyBarelyAnInconvenience
Nah like I said I'm drunk and it sounded right lol.
SuperEasyBarelyAnInconvenience
I mixed up shrodingers cat with triple point.
SuperEasyBarelyAnInconvenience
Could be argued that we only know what state it's in when we measure the triple point.