Why are oil companies still getting government cheese?

Feb 3, 2023 4:00 PM

Lanhdanan

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For real, why Isn't this put to a vote?

3 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Mr Sanders,we love you.

3 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

More than the tax itself, we need to close loopholes that allow corporations to get out of paying taxes in the first place.

3 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

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3 years ago | Likes 20 Dislikes 0

Welp time to up the corporate tax percentage on profits. Let them make 35b in profit, just make them pay 50% of it in taxes. No reductions

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Buybacks often make economic sense for a company's health. Other times they don't. Ban investor input. Stocks=loans not ownership.

3 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Because the oil companies own the government.

3 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Haven't heard a single bad idea from Bernie, since I started seeing his posts.

3 years ago | Likes 21 Dislikes 1

Eh, he's got some questionable ideas when you dig into it but these two are not questionable, at all. They're both really solid policy.

3 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 2

What the Senate can do -- if they would -- is to *ban subsidies* to corporations; **particularly** low-cost oil leases...

3 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

My family says oil companies charging so much is fair because they had bad years during COVID and need to get it back. The brainwash is real

3 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

3 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Sorry. Best we can do is (checks notes) blind obedience to Capitalism in its one true form and a rejection of Socialism.... /s

3 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 0

Windfall taxes and ban stock buybacks

3 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 1

Must ban stock buybacks? I mean tax the rich but banning buybacks is f’ed up. There must be more to this?

3 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Thinking about this even more. Forced dividends would provide taxation. Yep ban stock buybacks and force dividends.

3 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Worldwide subsidies of $5.9 TRILLION. https://e360.yale.edu/digest/fossil-fuels-received-5-9-trillion-in-subsidies-in-2020-report-finds

3 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 1

And the US Military is mostly to protect corporate interests so that's another subsidy of money, and bodies

3 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 1

Bernie Sanders for President.

3 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

He says we need to ban it but no one steps forward to do it... and they won't sit back and let it happen either

3 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

The rich used to pay taxes. Now they loan money to the US government – at a profit that everyone else pays for. Robert Reich.

3 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

We must but we won't

3 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

How about banning subsidies for companies that show a profit equal to the subsidies?

3 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

@OP "End Greed." (Pass it on.)

3 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Paying almost $1 / l ??? No... Impossible.

3 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Pull up a commodity ngas chart. At its peak it was trading at 10 now at 2.... Same as at 2018.. who is cheating who?

3 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

This is great. Instead of the stupid and false "inflation is just price gouging" message, identify that windfall profits are unearned...

3 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

and should be clawed back via taxes, and that stock buybacks harm the long term viability of companies for short term profit.

3 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

If we only had another 300 people in Congress just like Bernie.

3 years ago | Likes 129 Dislikes 1

Thisz this is the american "dream" as it will not become real but just a "dream" as thing only get worst.

3 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

And maybe a president and a Supreme Court.

3 years ago | Likes 21 Dislikes 1

Funny how power is distributed in the US. You should check out this guy Montesquieu

3 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

They don't need to be just like Bernie, cool as that would be. The problem is their corruption. Eliminating that solves a ton of problems

3 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 2

The problem is that the corporations feel that they have a duty to their shareholders. Not their customers.

3 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

But we won’t

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looks like they've got the pinball map

3 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

"I'll take 'How Reagan Fucked Up America and We've Been in a Slowly-Revealed Hellscape for 40 Years' for $2000."

3 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

fucc the zucc & fb right now

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REAGAN!!!

3 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

When the question of "if you can go back in time and kill one person" pops up, my answer is always Reagan.

3 years ago | Likes 47 Dislikes 0

Dick Cheney

3 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

FUCK that greasy cocksucker and his ilk.

3 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Ronald Wilson Reagan = 6 6 6

3 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 1

Should probably kill Hitler first tho

3 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

That law is up for debate because it keeps businesses from scamming investors while also incentivizing tax dodging. The big thing is that

3 years ago | Likes 12 Dislikes 0

businesses should not be a guarantee by the government but a risk that can fail. We tax people to provide low interest loans basically to

3 years ago | Likes 12 Dislikes 0

big corporations but don’t get a return to the public when it should be going both ways.

3 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 0

*Re-enact. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crude_Oil_Windfall_Profit_Tax_Act_of_1980

3 years ago | Likes 144 Dislikes 0

*LARP. Wait, what?

3 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

In the 90s I took an econ course that included Trickle Down effects and essentially the bulk of money all went to buybacks and buy-outs.

3 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

And create a longer buy back period or none at all, for companies selling and rebuying for a tax credit

3 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

Of course it was Reagan that repealed it.

3 years ago | Likes 63 Dislikes 0

A lot of, if not the vast majority of, things wrong with America today can be traced back to Reagan.

3 years ago | Likes 18 Dislikes 0

most of the rest land at Nixon (drug war, southern strategy, impunity of politicians) Wilson (racist institutions) or Clinton (bank dereg)

3 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

Most Reagon era economic decisions need reversed, revoking this included. Patsy 2024, Unfuck America

3 years ago | Likes 19 Dislikes 0

Without the threats of the labor movement and soviets, capital is free to take back what it momentarily granted. That's class struggle 101.

3 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 1

And prevent companies making record profits to be saved by the next Government bailout. Save it for the lean times or face the consequences.

3 years ago | Likes 460 Dislikes 0

Government bailouts should be paid with stock, or it's a scam. If you take government money, you issue Equity

3 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Bail them out, but nationalize them while doing it.

3 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

“just horde more wealth” doesn’t seem like a winning strategy.

3 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Like the fucking rest of us. They're the ones that wanted to be people.

3 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Too big to fail.

3 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

Sorry to burst your bubble but Chevron didn't get bailed out, even spoke out against bailouts in 2020.

3 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Bail them out but then the government takes over a majority of the ownership

3 years ago | Likes 48 Dislikes 1

Lufthansa is now 20%owned by the German govt as their covid bailout.

3 years ago | Likes 15 Dislikes 0

Yes, also. When the trouble hits, watch their stock price tank and the government can buy at bankruptcy prices.

3 years ago | Likes 30 Dislikes 0

"too big to fail means too big to leave to private hands. Your move, CEO"

3 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

That can only work for non publicly traded companies, *usually*. Unless the company itself, not the CEO as an individual, owns the 1/2

3 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

Company shares aren't fixed in qty. They can issue more, or buy-back (after the price has tanked due to near-bankruptcy).

3 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Majority stock. Otherwise, where are the shares coming from? They have to be bought from someone, and that also takes money. If its 2/x

3 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

Part of the bail out, then that money is going into the pocket of the individual, not back into the company's budget. There is 3/x

3 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

Probably another solution to this, but this one in particular won't work for every publicly traded company. It's a good idea where it works.

3 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 1

Massive companies shouldn’t get bailout, “let them sink like capitalism intended,” the same way they let workers sink. Patsy 2024

3 years ago | Likes 93 Dislikes 0

Maybe oil companies and major banks need to buy less avocado toast! And pull themselves up by their bootstraps in lean times, you know?

3 years ago | Likes 17 Dislikes 0

Agreed. If the rich and companies say workers should “live lean” then they should be forced to lead by example and sink if they’re failing.

3 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I think they use a different saying. "Pull yourself up by your congressmen." And I think that's beautiful

3 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Let them sink with Big Tech companies or big banks should be on a Tshirt

3 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

There’s an algorithm driven site making it now that you wrote it lol

3 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

ah isn't life in a cyberpunk dystopia just... *chefs kiss*

3 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Right. We could’ve had any kind of future and this is the direction our species decided to head.

3 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

"But we do so much for the economy! If we fail, everyone will suffer!" [proceeds to use all their money on their own stock value]

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"But if we stop destroying the earth and sucking dry the resources how will we afford to fill our 8 trucks' gas tanks??!!"

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And then downsizes and outsources anyways... "please government, more money1"

3 years ago | Likes 25 Dislikes 0

Yep, exact point. Let them sink so better companies can rise in their place. Sink or swim is what they want, it’s what they should get.

3 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

You must not know! While that may seem fair, it's actually not because those companies are rich. Treating them fairly is unfair silly

3 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Better slap the “/s” on that cause some people have severe trouble even with obvious sarcasm.

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