I recall, during his first election, a veteran gave trump his Medal of Honor. Rather than first thanking the man for his service and asking how he was doing, trump's first reaction was to say, 'that's an easy way to get it." He just does not, nor does he want to, understand what these service men and women have gone through for this Country.
In his eyes, if you wilfully join the military, you are just a tool to exact his will. You are completely expendable, your suffering and sacrifice is completely your choice, and he will not take any responsibility for your care.
I served 4 years in the US Navy during Vietnam. I guess, according to Trump, all of my friends who are now buried in national cemetery's across the world are also "suckers and losers".
Wait wait; while you've got him on the line- Mr. McCain, Sir, I greatly respect your honor and values as a person. However on account of some of your policies I am gonna need you to get punched in the dick.
Almost no one who was going to vote for him will change their minds because of this. Even other veterans. Republicans have to be personally affected for anything to matter. That's the "Party of Family Values". "If they're not my family, they have no value."
I mean, didnt he mock veterans extensively in his first campaign ("I prefer the ones who didnt get captured"), then some more while president? I feel like pretty much everyone has denounced him multiple times at some point
I will never understand why so many veterans are Republican. The GOP openly doesn't give a fuck about them, has been trying to dismantle the VA for years and refuses to get them the care they desperately need.
"We would like to remind Mr. Trump that the 12 times he had the honor of awarding the Medal of Honor as president of the United States, those were heroes not of his own choosing."
And this is why he thinks the Medal of Freedom is better. Because he got to choose who gets one.
The fact that he thought it was a good idea to say this in front of a camera in itself is proof he lacks the judgment to be left in charge of anything more important than babysitting a pet rock.
Well yes, in his American, people who have lots of money are the ones who are more deserving of commendation. Especially when they are Republican and donating a lot of that money to his campaign.
Before trump, no acting general would have even considered disobeying orders or telling the public that the commander in chief was wrong.
Several generals signed a public letter that they wouldn't obey orders to oppress the American people, or interfere with elections for trump.
They risked their careers to protect the Constitution from that orange prick. And he still has support? Fuck those maga Nazis. Round them up and let them choose between exile or execution. No mercy for treason.
Put a finger down if you've successfully alienated a significant number of your potential voters with an ignorant statement, and as your campaign starts to circle the drain, you spiral, grow increasingly unhinged and desperate, then manage to alienate the rest.
Trump bashing people who have done anything selflessly. Hmmm must be a day ending in y. This is a guy who has called POWs losers as well as dead soldiers. Guy is a utter coward piece of shit.
As a person who’s never personally served in the military I can’t imagine how it feels to have your efforts and contributions being so insulted and belittled. Just hearing it made me mad and I’m not even directly involved.
Most of those guys really don't care. They care that they can keep their AR-15s and the thoughts of being better than a libtard, knowing that the borders are secure so the Mexicans won't take the jobs they would never do, even if offered 10x their current wages. The veterans that support Trump have an IQ less than 90 and barely higher than 85, which is the reason they are veterans.
Like the bullets they took for our country in operations undertaken at the behest of our leaders make our soldiers and veterans somehow lesser than. They serve our country and become "damaged goods" because of it, in Trump's eyes, or in his words, "losers and suckers." How disgusting that Cheeto is
Almost like he's a fascist who believes that anyone with a disability is worthless. Should really look in a mirror with that level of cognitive ineptitude.
He is extremely judgmental of any infirmity. He sees it as a weakness. It makes me happy that the shooter missed, because I can't wait for the day when his own body inevitably betrays him, and he knows it.
Man, you lucked out in so many ways, in regards to that shot. I think you may actually have gotten the best timeline, the most favourable sequence of events.
- Political assassinations are bad, so it's good you didn't have another of those. - Trump wasn't seriously injured, and so can't keep bitching about it, or use it as an excuse for his failings. - The shot was the result of an unhinged MAGA movement that's ready to eat itself, so it can't even be used to attack the Democratic party.
I've had friends who openly supported Trump (from overseas) but, each one, individually, has turned against him after they've heard something they didn't like about him. You might not be able to get to the hardcore maga cunts but you absolutely can influence other supporters away from him. All the campaigning is not in vain
Primaries are Aug 20 here in FL. As I was driving around today I see numerous campaign signs that say both "veteran" and "endorses Trump" Those 2 CANNOT exist next to each other. Disgusting.
Some veterans like religious people will let others talk as much shit about them as they want as long as they can hate the people their leaders say it's okay to hate. They're not better people for being vets, that's not how real life works.
It's literally the worst of humanity that got told they no longer need to be ashamed of being terrible. And they will fight to protect that little bit of affirmation to the death.
I mean, sure, on one hand, he denigrates you, your service, and everything you stood for while in uniform, but on the OTHER hand, he makes you feel better about using the N-word, so its really a wash.
I cannot reconcile my oath to support and defend the Constitution with support for an insurrectionist who openly talks of suspending that same Constitution.
I can see no other description than those who do than 'oath breaker'.
MAGA don't care as long as they have their AR-15's & the right to grab the pussy. Often with Epstein on his private jet. MAGA. Fuck poor people and their free health care. Poor people will vote, but not in the swing states where it matters. Let Project 2025 rule the USA and Make America Great Again. I'm looking at that vag in the ultrasound room sweetie...
I've seen interviews with people who say "he's one of us, just a regular guy." And they say it with a straight face! Not coincidentally, many of those are like 70-80 year old women wearing t-shirts that say "Trump Girl" so clearly, they've already been talked down to their whole lives and are used to the mind set that it's a good thing when a man calls you pretty, even if he is treating you like shit the whole time. Saying what you want to hear is better than their actions, to the brainwashed.
It's a cult. Many people join the military to belong to something bigger and they lose that when they discharge. Ronald Dump has given them the same thing they had.
As a retired Marine LtCol who graduated from the U.S. Naval Academy I had 5 pretty good friends/classmates, one who made one-star, for all my career, but they cast their lots in with the Orange Cheeto-in-Chief and I no longer communicate with them. I just don’t know who they are anymore.
Same ppl as before, just with their facist pride out. Ya shouldnt be shocked, we sent our bigots to kill german bigots while shitting on our vets of color. Nothing new at all.
I can, just remember we sent our proto-nazis bigots to fight germans nazi bigots. Oh and we also shat on our vets of color who came home, we denied them the same homes, loans and jobs we happily gave our proto-nazi bigots.
Why not? Genuinely, why not? They aren't drafted for their intelligence so they'll be no more intelligent than the average american and will have gone through even more rigorous indoctrination in american values, which are of course to worship money, stupidity and fame. What odds do you imagine such ppl, manipulated into doing terrible things in horrible situations, have of realising that their country has no morale high ground? No they'll keep serving daddy capitalism. Most of them, anyway.
Religion is just a part of it. A tool among many others. Broadly just blaming religion isn't gonna help anyone. It just feeds conservative persecution fetish and might alienate religious people who don't subscribe to bigotry.
The local VFW post near me is nothing but smooth brained "fuck you Brandon" t-shirt wearing racists. I've moved around a lot and desperately struggle to find a vet community. The past two VFW posts were just overflowing with maga types. I cannot for the life of me understand why any veteran would support him.
mikeatike
Saw a "veterans for trump" sign today. As Trump would say, "what a loser".
TofuGolem
Reminder: the VFW is a super far-right veterans' group.
Thome216
I recall, during his first election, a veteran gave trump his Medal of Honor. Rather than first thanking the man for his service and asking how he was doing, trump's first reaction was to say, 'that's an easy way to get it." He just does not, nor does he want to, understand what these service men and women have gone through for this Country.
Bex316
In his eyes, if you wilfully join the military, you are just a tool to exact his will. You are completely expendable, your suffering and sacrifice is completely your choice, and he will not take any responsibility for your care.
beastiebunny
I served 4 years in the US Navy during Vietnam. I guess, according to Trump, all of my friends who are now buried in national cemetery's across the world are also "suckers and losers".
BobisBobIsHimIsMe
"Fuck Trump. With a rust spoon. "- Salad Fingers
MicroChannelMaster
Oh look, another politics posting bot account.
IamAlbertPotato
The man is a pig.
upsidedownyhead
He'll never apologise. He'll double down. He would rather live in shit than let anyone see him work a shovel.
zim57398
"Oh so NOW he's crossing a line." - the ghost of John McCain.
SneakorsMcSneakorsface
Wait wait; while you've got him on the line- Mr. McCain, Sir, I greatly respect your honor and values as a person. However on account of some of your policies I am gonna need you to get punched in the dick.
Richter12x2
Almost no one who was going to vote for him will change their minds because of this. Even other veterans. Republicans have to be personally affected for anything to matter. That's the "Party of Family Values". "If they're not my family, they have no value."
till231331415
Man that’s fantastic
vanishinggirl
Never a truer statement from beyond the grave.
williamoftheoak
I mean, didnt he mock veterans extensively in his first campaign ("I prefer the ones who didnt get captured"), then some more while president? I feel like pretty much everyone has denounced him multiple times at some point
hjortmar
He probably meant that its better because you dont have to risk losing a limb or whatever. Still a lying self-serving poopyhead though.
unluckyandbored
I will never understand why so many veterans are Republican. The GOP openly doesn't give a fuck about them, has been trying to dismantle the VA for years and refuses to get them the care they desperately need.
BenderSaysNeat
Just in case anyone wants to read the WHOLE statement and not just part of one as part of a screenshot of a tweet: https://www.vfw.org/media-and-events/latest-releases/archives/2024/8/vfw-admonishes-former-president-for-medal-of-honor-remarks
PonyMadness
I'll be sending this to quite a few people. Thanks
RocknRootRanchcuzallwegotisrocksandrootsandafewtrees
The rest of it is lovely. Thank you kind stranger.
archery126
"We would like to remind Mr. Trump that the 12 times he had the honor of awarding the Medal of Honor as president of the United States, those were heroes not of his own choosing."
And this is why he thinks the Medal of Freedom is better. Because he got to choose who gets one.
twentydollarbanana
Thanks
debob
The fact that he thought it was a good idea to say this in front of a camera in itself is proof he lacks the judgment to be left in charge of anything more important than babysitting a pet rock.
SacrificialClam
Well yes, in his American, people who have lots of money are the ones who are more deserving of commendation. Especially when they are Republican and donating a lot of that money to his campaign.
UncleMartha
Cast your minds back to the days of yore, when he said he was really, really rich and he didn't need or want anybody else's money. Fucking hilarious.
Dragonfury5
I'm reading this to my father in an attempt to, ONCE AGAIN, attempt to get him to understand what a douche trump is. He's not happy hearing it.
hyperchondriac
Trump sees those who risk and sacrifice their life and limb as losers and suckers; anyone useful who grovels before him is more worthy in his eyes.
ItHappenedInThe20thCentury
a man who already "served" in this noble office - lol, he served but a handful of persons
jasondeslin
Before trump, no acting general would have even considered disobeying orders or telling the public that the commander in chief was wrong.
Several generals signed a public letter that they wouldn't obey orders to oppress the American people, or interfere with elections for trump.
They risked their careers to protect the Constitution from that orange prick. And he still has support? Fuck those maga Nazis. Round them up and let them choose between exile or execution. No mercy for treason.
TexxasTerror
If you have ever served and honorably worn the uniform, and vote for that cheeto, you are a tratior and no longer my brother in arms.
Hercules99
My neighbor still refuses to remove his Vets for Trump flag
KungofBees
As a combat vet a reminder this MF (Trump) wanted to give himself a MoH and was laughed out of the room.
Sooner70
Hey, it takes a lot of courage to be Commander in Chief when you have bone spurs!
CallMeMcGyver
Trump:”As President, I wanted to give myself the Congressional Medal of Honor but they wouldn’t let me do it... They said that would be inappropriate,”… He said that and was pissed he couldn’t do it… people forget or refuse to believe it. https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/trump-peeved-couldn-t-himself-182937441.html
DesdemonaMoor
Put a finger down if you've successfully alienated a significant number of your potential voters with an ignorant statement, and as your campaign starts to circle the drain, you spiral, grow increasingly unhinged and desperate, then manage to alienate the rest.
daliamonra
Trump bashing people who have done anything selflessly. Hmmm must be a day ending in y. This is a guy who has called POWs losers as well as dead soldiers. Guy is a utter coward piece of shit.
LarryR1
Captain Bonespurs can't stand when anyone gets more recognition than he does. Come November, let's make him irrelevant.
Perfectlynormalhumanbieng
As a person who’s never personally served in the military I can’t imagine how it feels to have your efforts and contributions being so insulted and belittled. Just hearing it made me mad and I’m not even directly involved.
DunningKrugerBites
Most of those guys really don't care. They care that they can keep their AR-15s and the thoughts of being better than a libtard, knowing that the borders are secure so the Mexicans won't take the jobs they would never do, even if offered 10x their current wages. The veterans that support Trump have an IQ less than 90 and barely higher than 85, which is the reason they are veterans.
LootenetDan
Like the bullets they took for our country in operations undertaken at the behest of our leaders make our soldiers and veterans somehow lesser than. They serve our country and become "damaged goods" because of it, in Trump's eyes, or in his words, "losers and suckers." How disgusting that Cheeto is
keyblader1985
His entire system of judging a person's worth is based on their physical status, financial status, or power. Nothing else matters.
Jaco365
I'll take that a step further and state those attributes interest him because of what value they have to help further his own ends.
berserkerteacup
Almost like he's a fascist who believes that anyone with a disability is worthless. Should really look in a mirror with that level of cognitive ineptitude.
nsmike
He is extremely judgmental of any infirmity. He sees it as a weakness. It makes me happy that the shooter missed, because I can't wait for the day when his own body inevitably betrays him, and he knows it.
eggmuffin
Man, you lucked out in so many ways, in regards to that shot. I think you may actually have gotten the best timeline, the most favourable sequence of events.
- Political assassinations are bad, so it's good you didn't have another of those.
- Trump wasn't seriously injured, and so can't keep bitching about it, or use it as an excuse for his failings.
- The shot was the result of an unhinged MAGA movement that's ready to eat itself, so it can't even be used to attack the Democratic party.
myr14d
Of course Trump would give a medal of freedom to a billionaire.
MachineThreat02
This mf'er shilling beans
monkeyshines
It's because there's no Medal Of Findom
thinkybrainpains
because she freely gave him millions
CallMeMcGyver
Freely?… no, everything with billionaires has strings attached…
thinkybrainpains
i stand corrected
MightyUrto
I honestly can't fathom how any veteran can support Trump
joshuasplinth
And if you’re gonna try to pull off a coup, wouldn’t you think that they’re going to be pretty important to keep happy?
novagalaxias
I've had friends who openly supported Trump (from overseas) but, each one, individually, has turned against him after they've heard something they didn't like about him. You might not be able to get to the hardcore maga cunts but you absolutely can influence other supporters away from him. All the campaigning is not in vain
Stuffyhead
Primaries are Aug 20 here in FL. As I was driving around today I see numerous campaign signs that say both "veteran" and "endorses Trump" Those 2 CANNOT exist next to each other. Disgusting.
awkungen42
Some veterans like religious people will let others talk as much shit about them as they want as long as they can hate the people their leaders say it's okay to hate. They're not better people for being vets, that's not how real life works.
anjeleyezjr
I honestly can't fathom how anyone can support the orange shitstain.
johnxbear
It's literally the worst of humanity that got told they no longer need to be ashamed of being terrible. And they will fight to protect that little bit of affirmation to the death.
yoyo42
I'm just hoping those still serving won't support him. I suspect that could matter in November/December...
meatsmokertx
The va clinic in Austin is a fkn weird experience
Not in a good way
madassa
Presses the *Would you like to know more* button.
bmaster1
Say more?
lordnequam
I mean, sure, on one hand, he denigrates you, your service, and everything you stood for while in uniform, but on the OTHER hand, he makes you feel better about using the N-word, so its really a wash.
thereitis101
Driving today and saw a truck with a Vietnam Veteran sticker. Above it was a Trump sticker.
denimdenis
The irony is depressing
SexiasMaximus
"Trolling the libs" and brainrot are powerful stuff.
stoots24
Lol Agent Orange reporting for duty, Sir!
Outlavv
There are tens of millions of people with their only goal being to ensure that someone else is suffering worse than they are.
LastNightInHounslow
Brainwashery.
Rebar77
The loser ones sure do... losers.
L4dead2
As a veteran, I definitely do not support this orange turd
CheckFlop
It's almost like his supporters are loud so they seem to be the majority when they're not.
sunyudai
I cannot reconcile my oath to support and defend the Constitution with support for an insurrectionist who openly talks of suspending that same Constitution.
I can see no other description than those who do than 'oath breaker'.
DunningKrugerBites
MAGA don't care as long as they have their AR-15's & the right to grab the pussy. Often with Epstein on his private jet. MAGA. Fuck poor people and their free health care. Poor people will vote, but not in the swing states where it matters. Let Project 2025 rule the USA and Make America Great Again. I'm looking at that vag in the ultrasound room sweetie...
touchofgray8503
I honestly can't fathom how anyone who isn't a straight, white, rich, "Christian" male can support him.
bory513
They don't actually listen to him when he says anything they disagree with. The trump of thier mind is perfect to them
shitheadtookmyname
I'm sure you actually can. He hurts the ppl they hate.
Tempcore
I've seen some where it seemed to simply come down to "i hate politicians and he's not a politician"
datphone777365
Well thats cus they're idiots or con men who wana join in on his grift. Still idiots but def a step above the culty "he tells like it is" fuckwits.
zelda633000
I've seen interviews with people who say "he's one of us, just a regular guy." And they say it with a straight face! Not coincidentally, many of those are like 70-80 year old women wearing t-shirts that say "Trump Girl" so clearly, they've already been talked down to their whole lives and are used to the mind set that it's a good thing when a man calls you pretty, even if he is treating you like shit the whole time. Saying what you want to hear is better than their actions, to the brainwashed.
YourBiologicalStepDadUncleRob
It's a cult. Many people join the military to belong to something bigger and they lose that when they discharge. Ronald Dump has given them the same thing they had.
buddbilly
As a retired Marine LtCol who graduated from the U.S. Naval Academy I had 5 pretty good friends/classmates, one who made one-star, for all my career, but they cast their lots in with the Orange Cheeto-in-Chief and I no longer communicate with them. I just don’t know who they are anymore.
datphone777365
Same ppl as before, just with their facist pride out. Ya shouldnt be shocked, we sent our bigots to kill german bigots while shitting on our vets of color. Nothing new at all.
datphone777365
WackyTicTacCasualty
Or woman, or black person, or - well, you get the picture.
Goldensands
Why not? Genuinely, why not? They aren't drafted for their intelligence so they'll be no more intelligent than the average american and will have gone through even more rigorous indoctrination in american values, which are of course to worship money, stupidity and fame. What odds do you imagine such ppl, manipulated into doing terrible things in horrible situations, have of realising that their country has no morale high ground? No they'll keep serving daddy capitalism. Most of them, anyway.
TiredBanana
Generations of indoctrination especially in red states.
Toqom
Also known as religion
TiredBanana
Religion is just a part of it. A tool among many others. Broadly just blaming religion isn't gonna help anyone. It just feeds conservative persecution fetish and might alienate religious people who don't subscribe to bigotry.
defcon275
The local VFW post near me is nothing but smooth brained "fuck you Brandon" t-shirt wearing racists. I've moved around a lot and desperately struggle to find a vet community. The past two VFW posts were just overflowing with maga types. I cannot for the life of me understand why any veteran would support him.
navagon
You need to have the IQ of a dog to think that supporting Trump is a good idea. Having a dog-level IQ doesn't preclude entry into the armed forces.
lacarpitrondookmarriot
Don’t insult dogs.