Haunting brutality in color

Mar 15, 2018 10:26 PM

PaulLynde

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The gaunt face of 14-year-old prisoner Czesława Kwoka stares back through time in a haunting Auschwitz mugshot restored this year by Brazilian artist Marina Amaral.

Taken just minutes after she was beaten to within an inch of her life, the images give a human face to one of the concentration camp’s 1.1 million victims.

The painstakingly recolored photos show the teenager trying to hold back tears after being repeatedly struck by a guard’s club. More from the artist: http://www.marinamaral.com/portfolio-2/

I don't know if it's just me but I just want to grab her and hug her and tell her it's going to be all right. (Even though it isn't)

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Been trying to get through Shindler's List all week. Every year I watch WWII movies and documentaries as a kind of duty to society.

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Czesławo nigdy o Tobie nie zapomnimy! __________________________________________ Czesława, we will never forget you.

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

I just finished reading Night by Elie Wiesel and it is a haunting book that EVERYONE should read. Audible book is worth listening to also.

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

So incredibly heart-wrenching to look at this sweet child. We all need to be reminded of brutality that doesn't leave marks on the outside.

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

God would have to ask for forgiveness

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Welp. There it is. In color

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Jesus

8 years ago | Likes 15 Dislikes 1

8 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 15

Don't deceive yourself @OP, similar things are still happening today. The war crimes weren't a symptom of the early 20th century.

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Thank you for posting.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I know colourization is not easy, but I generally prefer the original. To me, the b&w is almost always more haunting. Still, it's well done.

8 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 2

As I mom I can see my own child in her. I can see my child in any child that is suffering. I feel sick. I wish I could snatch her from 1/2

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

that picture and save her. Screw people who slaughter innocents and prey on Children. My heart aches for her and the so many others. 2/2

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Apocalypse

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Dude that's a girl...haunting indeed.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Wikipedia link of this girl. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Czes%C5%82awa_Kwoka

8 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

I think that means the kid should have the triangle colored blue instead of pink https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_concentration_camp_badge

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

8 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 1

Really don't understand how a human can do this to someone else. I feel you have to love being sadistic to just beat on someone

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Never forget.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

That's the face of someone who hates the person she's looking at.

8 years ago | Likes 18 Dislikes 1

Or someone who's suffering and in fear for her life.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

She didn't understand what she was told to do because she didn't speak German. They beat her for it.

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Maybe not. Check this: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilhelm_Brasse The Photographer was a prisoner too.

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

I want to visit Auschwitz one day...but i'm pretty sure i can't manage to do the whole visit...i've been told it is quite hard

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Go while there are still survivors to share thier stories.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I visited about a year ago, It brought me to tears.

7 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

My granddad survived Auschwitz, the stories he tells from the 3 years he was there is nightmare fuel and almost unbelievable.

8 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

Doesn't need colour to make the point about stupid ideological brutality...fuck extremism in all its forms

8 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 3

"In all it's forms" is also extremism. Don't take it personally, though, it's a famous paradox. Like "no ideologies allowed" is an ideology.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Agreed, some forms of extremism do more harm than others...

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I checked the link. Holy shit it’s good

8 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

Things equally bad are happening in Myanmar (Burma) right now. This very second. In 2018.

8 years ago | Likes 35 Dislikes 4

And that’s Christians persecuting Muslims. Some fucking religion of love

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

And it's not publicised via the media nearly enough.

8 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 1

HONY and NYT have both run loads of pieces on it, but yea. It's not enough. You'd think humanity would fucking learn.

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

And Chechnya. There are pogroms against LGBT people going on right now.

8 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

After the holocaust and after Rwanda we said never again, but it just keeps happening again and again and again.

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

And again... Xinjiang Uighur internment camps. US-mexico border camps.

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

The face of stubborn fear. Haunting.

8 years ago | Likes 450 Dislikes 2

The fuck is stubborn fear? Isn't that a child who has no understanding whatsoever about this insane garbage? Doing what adults tell her to?

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 7

Something you've learned to be afraid of, but are still defiant against, in your heart and mind.

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

She hasn't learned to be afraid of anything like that. She boarded a train, got her hair cut, and walked to the crematorium because adults

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

told her to do so. "Stubborn fear" is melodramatic nonsense that doesn't even remotely apply to a child of her age.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Dunno why the downvote.

8 years ago | Likes 61 Dislikes 7

See my comment. It's silly but not without unwarranted to downvote this.

8 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 2

Yeah, 90% of the time i browse imgur it's to escape the horrors of life, not be reminded of them, so it's tempting to downvote.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Same.

8 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 1

It wasn't really that long ago that anything that was brutal or a downer would get deleted. I think it is (or was) in the rules that 1/2

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

imgur is an upbeat community, not a place to post horror and sadness. 2/2

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Sometimes it's hard to look at these images because she looks so much like me. Hard to believe half my ancestors were killed 70 years ago.

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Even harder to believe my family was attacked again in Charlottesville only last year, and our president defends it.

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Like physically attacked? Under what circumstances?

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Peacefully protesting the Nazis running through their home town screaming racist slurs. The Nazis punched, kicked and hit them with 1/2

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

their own signs while they held their hands behind their backs.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

How many arrests?

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Who would downvote this other than Nazis?

8 years ago | Likes 405 Dislikes 32

Have you ever posted anything? Everything gets downvoted before it ever gets upvoted.

8 years ago | Likes 26 Dislikes 1

The same people who complain that Imgur isn't a funny place anymore.

8 years ago | Likes 131 Dislikes 7

People who come here for dank memes & cat pics instead of depressing shit, I'd wager.

8 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

challenge accepted

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 18

Who would upvote but Nazis?

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 11

People who've seen this many times before?

8 years ago | Likes 38 Dislikes 25

Pictures of this girl were on the front page literally last night.

8 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

Dead nazis.

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 5

Ah yes. The good old - if you don’t agree with me you are a Nazi mentality. Very healthy.

8 years ago | Likes 36 Dislikes 28

Welcome to this century/the internet.

8 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 7

It's a minority of idiots working together to make everyone nervous. But don't worry, they're the "good guys."

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

You do get that the girl in the picture was in a Nazi concentration camp, right?

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Super Nazis

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

Super Nazi Vampires from Spaaaace

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I never vote anything on imgur but come on. "Beaten to within an inch of her life"? Looks pretty well-being to me.

8 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 12

She died shortly after this photo was taken. Have some decency.

8 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 3

Decency? She's dead, no amount of decency is going to change anything.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 3

I’m just going let your words speak for themselves. Perhaps when you grow up a bit you’ll feel differently.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

Teach me how words can bring those back from the dead, old one

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 2

apart from her hair looking like its been cut with a hedge strimmer, the split lip and the coat so big its been pinned together.

8 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 2

Yeah, but still far from being beaten half to death.

8 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 7

Hyperbolic emotive language designed to elicit a reaction, it happens all the time. It's part of why I don't watch TV.

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 2

Grammar Nazis?

8 years ago | Likes 41 Dislikes 5

People who don't give a shit and are tired of seeing this come across our feeds because sheeple keep posting it thinking no one knows Nazis

8 years ago | Likes 27 Dislikes 49

Shut up ur like 20 yrs old, what do you know

8 years ago | Likes 13 Dislikes 7

As soon as someone uses the term "sheeple" I assume they're a moron.

8 years ago | Likes 18 Dislikes 2

Imgurs, apparently.

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

Who would assume only Nazis would downvote this?

8 years ago | Likes 21 Dislikes 28

Yeah honestly I can only picture Nazis WANTING to see this.

8 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 2

I'm more thinking that the sort of person that assumes "Nazis" might have some kind of disorder or paranoid obsession with them.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

Probably someone who doesn't go to a fun image hosting site to see child genocide victims

8 years ago | Likes 62 Dislikes 35

When I first got on imgur as a lurker years ago, it was even more news and real life stories than now. No one complained then. Stfu!!

8 years ago | Likes 25 Dislikes 4

There's a reason imgur has diff. tags and sections etc. and you said it in your comment: Image hosting, not fun-happy-cater-to-me hosting.

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

Really? I don't remember saying that in my comment.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

Bc if you know WHAT an image hosting site is, and that imgur IS one, then you should drop the delusion that "fun" content is some sort of2/3

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

obligation and anything to the contrary is to be downvoted and discouraged.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

Get a job.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

You don't remember calling it an "image hosting site", a term which denotes submission of ALL types of content, not just "fun" content? 1/

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Republicans that's deny it even happened

8 years ago | Likes 12 Dislikes 10

Wow, you are incredibly ignorant.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Always blame the scary Republicans. You Americans make me sad, you'll use the Holocaust to push your politics any chance you get.

8 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 9

You just attacked a generalization WITH a generalization of almost exact equal caliber and nature. You gone 'n went full retard, son.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

Whats that thing in the back of her head??

8 years ago | Likes 71 Dislikes 3

Looks like the pommel of a riding whip, but could also be a walking stick or something similar.

8 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 5

It could be to ensure the head is positioned perfectly for the mugshot.

8 years ago | Likes 65 Dislikes 1

The matrix

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Now why would go and say a thing like that?

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Legit feeking me out

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

/3 ohhh now i get it.. the head jack things.. see i decided to watch it tonight and you freaked me out..

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

It's a post that braces the back of each person's head in the exact same position. This ensured that the camera didn't have to be refocused.

8 years ago | Likes 41 Dislikes 0

I've seen photos of death pics, they have a post like this to hold their head up. It's screwed into their head

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 2

I want to both upvote it and downvote it (but only because it made me sick thinking about it) so I commented

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

But whys it look like her head is indented?

8 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 0

That's what I was wondering. :/

8 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

It's because they roughly and unevenly chopped her hair off and it's sticking up around the post.

8 years ago | Likes 12 Dislikes 0

Idk that’s a pretty big indent.

8 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 3

I thought she was dead because it looks just like those things they used in the 1800s to prop people up for post mortem photos.

8 years ago | Likes 30 Dislikes 4

Yes, I believe so to. I've seen those pics. She might be dead

8 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 4

Complete agree. I believe she is dead

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

Sorry, but you've probably haven't seen what a dead person looks like. Their eyes don't look like this. It's much more blank than this.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I worked in a medical device implant testing facility that practiced on cadavers and x-rayed the results. They seemed pretty dead to me.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

Oddly tho most of those aren’t corpses. Just read an article about that.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Interesting. I looked into it. https://dealer042.wixsite.com/post-mortem-photos/blank

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I remember it being a thing because people were selling these pictures of “corpses” for astronomical prices.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

This article says that online companies promote the false articles because all they care about is clicks because they get paid by the click.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Good link. People are so easily fooled by what they see online. "Misinformation Highway" is right. Critical thinking is dead not those kids.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Lol

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I visited Auschwitz several years ago and the pictures of the kids on the wall was the most heart breaking. We must never forget 1/2

8 years ago | Likes 357 Dislikes 2

Syria

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

We must never forget there are people in this world who DON'T get chills from reading about or looking at this history. On guarde.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

En. >_<

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I was there years ago and still get emotional.

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

The holocaust denialists are going to make a mad dash for recruitment about ten years from now once most survivors finally die off.

8 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

Israel Germany and some jewish groups try to pin blame for holocaust to Poles, only county where people were killed fof helping jews 1/...

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 2

2/ Still many did, and many died. Death penalty was fir the helper and their entire family, children included. The less survivors there is..

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

3/ easier it is to spin wchichever narrative suits your goals

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

Then theres's that room full of hair they cut off of women and sold... fucking hell dude.

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

I almost threw up in front of all the hair. I don't know why, but that is what I had the most trouble seeing.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Forget? This brutality (to a lesser extent) is happening now in Syria, n. Korea, Eritrea,...

8 years ago | Likes 30 Dislikes 3

Sudan, Central African Republic and Myanmar as well.

8 years ago | Likes 16 Dislikes 1

Fuck, I was just reading about Myanmar.

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

People being awful. Same shit, different day.

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Don't forget the gay people being tortured and killed in Chechnya. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gay_concentration_camps_in_Chechnya

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Or a massive percentage of the population - women, children in equal percentages - destroyed by the multiple Russian invasions.

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Oh yes. The disaspora of ehtnic non-Russians from the surrounding countries.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

No, literally the population of Chechnya.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

And white farmers in South Africa

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Yeah... I went to the holocaust museum and nearly had a mental breakdown

8 years ago | Likes 37 Dislikes 2

Yad Vashem?

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Shoe room got me. That smell.

8 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 1

.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Can you elaborate? I haven't been

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

It’s a room full of shoes, thousands of them, that were pulled from the victims feet upon arrival at the camps. Smelled like old leather

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Thank you

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

What smell?

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Old leather, but it was very pungent.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

The Museum of Tolerance in LA gives each visitor a card with an inmate's photo and name. You don't find out what happened to that person 1/2

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

until you exit the museum. Having that one human face has an emotional impact that is somehow more immediate than the exhibits. 2/2

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Yep. Massive numbers - 6 million, 12 million, seem to have a lesser impact compared to even a single life story of a victim or survivor.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I went there for school.. mine and all her family died.. also went to Dachau.. both are horrible and soul crushing. Dachau was so much worse

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

In 7th grade our English teacher taped pictures of child Holocaust victims on all our desks, will never forget the girl on mine.

8 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 1

Year 7 English? Wtf was wrong with her? 1. You were too young for that shit, 2. It has nothing to do with English.

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 13

It has nothing do do with English?! In what language do you think kids read books novels stories and memoirs about it?!

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

They aren't 7 yo, it's the 7th GRADE. 12-13. Our class saw Schindler's List in theatre in 7th grade.

8 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

What's your point? Parental guide written by whom? You, the parent? Or an organization with selfish interests in mind, not your child's?

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

They have a censored version. I saw it on TV when I was about that age.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Year 7 is around when my school read Anne Frank. Was probably a way of bringing those kids to life for the class instead of 'dry lesson'.

8 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 0

In Australia, that's the first year of High School. Leave happy Primary School and then BAM Anne Frank and pictures of concentration camps.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 2

Yeah, real life has a way of hitting you hard. Prepare for it or get fucked in the ass.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Bullshit. 7th grade is the perfect age for kids to learn about the terrible wrongs of humanity. They're a couple of steps from being

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

recruited and brainwashed into the military of their nation who's god knows what mission they have in store for them.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Hitler youth started even earlier than this age, and kids were hopelessly lost in that indoctrination - even turning against their parents.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

We were reading books about the Holocaust in conjunction with a unit in History class on the subject.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

7th grade isn’t too young. They are 12-13 years old.

8 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 0

Mate, most of those kids are still watching cartoons and claiming they don't.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 3

Learning in school and watching cartoons at home aren’t mutually exclusive

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Mate, they're half a step away or closer from being at the age where governments are indoctrinating people to their political will.

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Sometimes I wonder if we’ll see something similar in my lifetime... kinda why I’m a prepper and gun nut, I’m fearful of my kid’s future.

8 years ago | Likes 12 Dislikes 13

Meanwhile, in the US folks are trying to have gun rights culled cause our gov’mint is such a benevolent entity. (Sorry to go down that road)

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 16

Sorry you're getting downvoted. Imgur seems to be primarily leftist, anti-capitalist, gun-haters, who downvote anything they disagree with.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

haha god damn! I’m getting downvotes all over the place on this thread!

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Honest question: if an evil dictator orders a sizable military to throw you and your kids into a concentration camp, how will that help?

8 years ago | Likes 15 Dislikes 2

1 prepper= no help. 1 million preppers is a different story. Lots of casualties, but a fighting chance, at least.

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

Not taking a side, but advanced weaponry costs millions to maintain. Those millions evaporate in a civil war.

8 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 1

history has shown that the military often splinters during a civil war-the weapons don't all go to one side.Not sure what side this favors

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

There will be NOTHING we can do... however, all the people who want to freely give away their guns and not fight, those of use who “prepare”

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 6

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8 years ago (deleted Mar 16, 2018 3:33 AM) | Likes 0 Dislikes 0

will shuffle those people to the front to die first

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 4

Look at the news. There won't be a front. You won't even have a chance to see your attackers much less harm them.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Guns at a drone fight, good idea.

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

If we are all armed, it's harder to be overtaken. It at least slows the enemy down and reduces their resources.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Depends what the enemy wants. In most cases, no, your 19th century invention won't help you, slow the enemy down or reduce their resources.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

We would all lose obviously... so we should all give up, not even try, hand over our weapons and lay down?

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

You could stockpile shit like a paranoid lunatic for the off chance you get to say i told you so before being blown up, sure, go for it.

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

He's not being paranoid. He's being prepared.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I’m doing a little bit of that... although I’m not on the “complete loon” end of the spectrum

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

2/2 these things. Any country or culture can be capable of the same brutality.

8 years ago | Likes 192 Dislikes 1

Can be. But only a small handful actually have, so far.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

North Korea camps

8 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 1

I've been to Dachau there was a very present melancholy and cold on the air inside the walls did you notice that at Auschwitz?

8 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 4

I was there in the summer and didn't notice anything like that. But it's definitely a very somber and sad place.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Yes they can. And the biggest crime is to do nothing

8 years ago | Likes 28 Dislikes 1

You could always help killing people which would make it a bigger crime...?

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Curious, what have you done?

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 2

probably just that comment ^

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

Ah, and a childish downvote.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

Even Canadians?

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

There's similar bullshit happening in Burma and Venezuela both right now. The Burmese stuff is all because of Jade.

8 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 1

Don't forget west Papua and Myanmar

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Myanmar is Burma. But yes, it is not limited to those two places. Syria too, for example.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1