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https://twitter.com/mkaplantv/status/1348642565650862084
Jan 12, 2021 12:29 AM
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https://twitter.com/mkaplantv/status/1348642565650862084
GSH116
They didn't fail. The representatives are all safe. Those officers didn't fail. They did their duty.
Dinwiddie
Because they don't want to have to shoot terrorists\insurrectionist they are in agreement with just to protect America ?
AndreaAllheart
This fucking break my heart, they should of never been put into this position, the ones who defended the capitol building are true patriots.
zubax
I'm not judging the cops. All am saying is, they should have changed their outfits from rioters to cops a little bit sooner.
unicornsdonotexist
Was the second officer who died confirmed to be suicide?
QuartzPoker
Yes, unfortunately.
SenseiTheDefender
Shoot fascists, not yourself.
StuckInBetweeen
What if you're indirectly part of the fascists?
SenseiTheDefender
You should still shoot as many fascists as you can before someone takes you out.
jigglypuffusedpound
One officer already committed suicide after what happened in the capitol.
BetterKnownAsJasonDarket
:(
Snausagebort
Bro . . .
BetterKnownAsJasonDarket
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Weblord
If you served during this incident, YOU ARE NOT TO BLAME. Your superiors are reported to have reduced numbers and delayed support.
BeckyNosferatu
Please get this more upvotes, especially if those officers are on Imgur. Can't stress this enough. The people that responded are heroes.
PassiveAggressiveHotdogVendor
I’m happy people are starting to see this. The first couple of days after Jan 6 people were making it out like none of the capitol police1/2
PassiveAggressiveHotdogVendor
Did their jobs. It’s evident mostly, almost all even, did. Leadership betrayed them. 2/2
hellospacemonkey
12-15 seemed to let it happen, the rest...the odds were against them as our own crazy President (Trump) sent 10,000 MAGA crazies to riot.
sqabbit
How could those in charge let this happen? Because trump's incompetence and failure knows no bounds
datphone777365
Bad apples n bunch is how.
tanebot
"Let this happen" is the wrong way to phrase it. "Conspire to cause this" is closer to the truth.
datphone777365
Bad apples n bunch is how.
DapperDeal
I mean when your fellow officers wave them in and give them directions to the god damn door. Yeah, it's the department's fault.
IPlayWithFire
They were just put there like cannon fodder sacrificial lambs against a mob they had no hope of containing.
Multipew
Some of them had no hope of containing the mob, because others among them were complicit
IPlayWithFire
And that too must have surely been demoralizing and disheartening for the ones loyal to their duty
BeckyNosferatu
I hope they realize that if they hadn't stepped in, our entire Senate would have been blown up. Those people are heroes.
IPlayWithFire
It would be good idea if after sworn in Biden awards some medals or recognition to the ones known to have stood their ground.
MrChewbacaHimself
Plus Chad Wolfe resigned. Even more vacant positions of responsibility.
n0n53n53
He resigned from the position he was illegally holding. Ok, bye Chad
moosevan
Oh, those poor people
summershank
You can quit and find a new profession. Blue is not a skin color. If you hate your job find a new one. A less stressful one hopefully
Enceladus21
When you watch the tapes it is clear a lot of the Capitol Police did indeed let them in. Even waving the crowd forward.
Dragon4518
reasons I couldn't be a cop, I'd have stood my ground and been lynched, but people would have been safe.
notanonymous
How do they feel about their fellow officers who enabled this? They should be fired up to get them to justice so this never happens again
Lemuffinmannn
I think that is a primary factor to them being suicidally depressed about it. Imagine the PTSD from being in a combat zone and find out...
Lemuffinmannn
some of your brothers in the unit let the enemy in the front door, and took selfies together before beating your mate to death
BeckyNosferatu
Or they're suicidal because they knew they should have gotten there sooner. Guilt and Grief will kill even the hardiest of people.
neomagus00
"Achilles in Vietnam" proposes that this sense of broken ideals from leadership is what made Vietnam so traumatic for the grunts.
catsandcoke
Having Vietnam Cong jump out of nowhere in the jungle and start shooting also did it. My dad was a V Vet.
neomagus00
I imagine that was pretty traumatic, too. "Achilles" claims that Vietnam was extreme even for war, which I'm absolutely unqualified to judge
ABillionDucks
This is why people say ACAB. Good officers arent officers for long because bad officers are the ones running the show.
Chikanboo
And fucktards like you are the problem because they know that no matter what they do no matter how hard they try people are like you are
Chikanboo
Just going to keep chanting a c a b
ABillionDucks
Yes I'm the problem. Not the rotten cops who left them to die at the Capitol. Get a grip.
Chikanboo
You do realize that cops are not just one giant organization right That's the cops of South bend Indiana are not responsible in any way
theguywiththevoice
Your bosses threw you under the bus at Trump's orders. They weren't expecting any cops with a conscience to still be on the force.
totallyserious69
Let’s be clear. That is the correct way for them to feel. The police DC has one main job and they failed that job in the worst way possible
Kwinion
Play shitty games, win shitty prizes. It’s sucks but your actions have consequences. Don’t be a coward, live with it, learn and do better
APassingPlasticBag
One officer already took his life... this blood is one every single terrorist and conspirator and should be treated as such
ThomasTheEngin
They deserve to carry that weight..
bullydogs
No one who actually fought deserved to carry the weight of others who let them in. Their brothers have failed them.
3dartwork
At the same time, how could this happen? Honestly? The absurdity of the ease rioters had to enter. NO ONE knew it was coming? Comeon
jumpbus360
No sympathy not anymore. So many police officers bought into MAGA and only now that "1 of their own" was murdered they see the light?
n0n53n53
The cheetahs ate their faces
Imafishwithlegs
So i guess officer Sicknick doesn't deserve sympathy? It also looked like officer Goodwin really bought in to maga too. You make it 1/2
Imafishwithlegs
Sound as if every officer failed in their duty when 50 were injured and 15 hospitalized doing their job, snd it shows,not 1 senator lost 2/2
headloser
As of 2020, the USCP has an annual budget of more than $460 million and employs more than 2000 police officers, where the officers were?
headloser
making it one of the most well-funded and well-staffed police departments relative to the two square miles that it guards. Not on that day
QuaneriousPlumm
Failure that great comes from the leadership, not the individual.
StuckInBetweeen
But often the individual pays, not the one who caused it. In tyrannical and corrupt governments anyway.
darthnerdus6236
That is pretty much from the top down right now. Hard to not be disheartened from the President calling for your demise.
StarWatcher4
Or from a lot of individuals
Renza0
Individuals on their team actively working against them certainly didnt help
IraqiWalker
In all fairness, some of the individuals were in the mob, and others let the mob through. Sadly, I'm betting the only ones feeling guilt 1/2
IraqiWalker
are the decent ones that tried their damndest to save lives and defend the country.
BeckyNosferatu
That's what I'm fearing too. I hope they realize that they saved a lot of people's lives by doing their job that day, when they were told no
QuaneriousPlumm
Some people really stood out as true to their oaths the last few weeks. Others have been less than exemplary.
VonScwaben
Yes, but the mind isn't rational. It's like survivor's guilt. You tell yourself that if only you'd been there, ore done something 1/
VonScwaben
Different, you could've saved lives. Especially when you did everything you could. You trick yourself into thinking it wasn't enough. 2/
VonScwaben
So yes, the leadership is at fault. But those under that same leadership feel as though it is there own fault, and not the leaders. And 3/
VonScwaben
That's what makes it hurt so much for them. That's what brings them to turn in their weapons for fear of self harm their mind tells them 4/5
VonScwaben
They deserve - even though they don't. Best of luck to you guys, I fear you'll need it, as will your nation. 5/5
kmikl
Try and tell that to rank and file that have internalized it. No matter where they stand on the issue, if they don't trust themselves in /1
katidragon
Tellthem that their responsibility was upheld in spite of the traitors in their midst
kmikl
/2 a pressure situation, they should on no account be out there carrying out their duties.
QuaneriousPlumm
It's commonly called survivors remorse. It happens to soldiers, police, etc a lot.
kmikl
Yep. I've worked with police and there are more than a couple that have this.
Lemmingofdarkestnight
Well but also... How could they let this happen?
jfd8u438fdsfkds
Because a bunch of them were part of the coup. Several have been suspended by the new police chief (a black woman)
SomeDetroitGuy
Their leadership deliberately fucked them over.
GreyKnightTemplar666
The GOP paid off members to stand down pretty much
PineappleIsDeliciousOnPizzaFightMe
They weren't given equipment or support to handle a situation everyone knew was going to happen. The traitorous guy in charge did this.
varonicaED
They didn't, they were ordered, yes ordered, not to draw weapons, and when you are outnumbered that's the end! Betrayed, as smple as that!
SociallyAwkwardCanadianMoose
A drawback with a gun in this situation is when you run out of bullets there are more mob members than you can fight
varonicaED
Then you still lose, but at least you took some of them down with you!
oopsIdroppedmypocketpasta
A bunch of people took the day off for a family event at the capitol building.
ThePunishersVengefulBrother
They were setup as pawns by their leaders
ABillionDucks
Cuz...the police force isnt for the people but for capital interests which have blown into fascism now? This is a feature not a bug.
Muunk
Kind of depends. If your boss left you out there without backup, without tools, without planning, then it's not on you.
Nunyajonesinc
They weren't properly prepared, equipped, or backed up and it appears some of their brothers were in on it
loma45
Yeah, it kind of needs a proper investigation of what happened. No witch hunt for people who may have been hung out to dry
PubstarHero
I think that learning that your coworkers who are supposed to protect the capitol were in on a coup and it lead to the death of a fellow >
PubstarHero
> officer probably would fuck up a lot of people mentally.
FierceAndAdorable
Most did not, understaffing, a few assholes, and President saying don’t back them to made it nearly impossible for the good ones
TheOnlyPtylerdactyl
Just guessing, the ones taking this situation hard are not the ones who let in the assholes.
batmanbumantics
They might be. Maybe that's why they feel so guilty?
Becker37
Agree.
Cassady
Disagree.
skellington01
I think that’s the point people are missing. You go to work every day that’s more than just work. Then you find out there are traitors
skellington01
among your colleagues who not only won’t have ur back in a dangerous situation, but would actually risk your life for politics. How do you
skellington01
go back to work with that in mind?
ThePickliestRick
Well, they were super understaffed and undergeared from the start. And then half of them ended up being sympathizers.
ThePickliestRick
So when all is said and done, you had like.. probably a few dozen legitimately trying to hold back a thousand.
ThePickliestRick
They were set up to fail. Sabotaged before they even had a chance. That it didn't end up worse actually shows how hard those few tried.
SuckerOfFun
Rumor has it that their chief refused assistance from other departments/branches and deliberately understaffed them for the event.
ahernandez
Well yeah but that chief was just one bad apple...
gaaaaalavant
There's a lot of ass covering happening and lots of people making conflicting statements. Gonna be lots of investigations once Biden's in.
CairoLen
There'd fucking better be. I don't forgive Obama for not investigating all the war crimes of the previous administration.
Wolfslapper
The pentagon refused to send the national guard as backup after they had requested it
DarkwingDuc
That's not a rumor. Those are facts. The rumors are pertaining to his motives.
Bossco20
What about the cops who opened up the blockade and let the terrorists into the Capital?
dogmatix
The figures I saw said there were less than 200 cops defending the place, compared to roughly 5000 when the BLM protests were being held
Hashbrown123
And out of that 200 only a handful were actually defending the place. The others were taking selfies and removing barriers.
PassiveAggressiveHotdogVendor
Got a source? Video from the day (prior to reinforcements) show them low on numbers, but I don’t think *that* low.
dogmatix
I did a bit more digging, it looks like the figure was closer to 500.
Lemmingofdarkestnight
Would that be the the guys in leadership who resigned?
SuckerOfFun
I dunno, hadn't heard about that.
MsBrit7
The chief of the Capitol Police (Steven Sund I think) resigned, and two officers have been suspended, & over 10 others under investigation.
mayorofdrixdale
Said chief claims he had asked for the National Guard being on close standby since a day before the riot and during. Was turned down 6 times
zstorm6
Didn't the sargeant at arms of the house resign as well?
umbrellacorped3
Oh please. They fucked up. Soon they will have the chance to prove it was not a common occurrence.
HonestCommentFarmer
Blaming the worker for what might be a management issue is small-dick energy.
MrKomisiripala
Not everyone did. Some played it smart and did the best they could
LiquidSodium
For some it was very much a "refusing to follow orders" thing, i.e. wanted to act but couldnt
TheLateNightImgurTimes
That's pretty heartless. You think they planned that days shift setup?
macthelost
Yes. They also told the FAA that the planes flying at the twin towers were an exercise so that the military wouldn’t shoot them down. >
macthelost
Nothing, I repeat, NOTHING happens in this country without it being planned. Literally every single thing that happens, happens because the>
macthelost
Government WANTS it to happen. Don’t kid yourself that that is not the case.
TheLateNightImgurTimes
Yeah but the individual officers? The people low down the totem pole?
skankhunt51
Found Q.
IveBeenToGroningen
"literally everything" Woah, can't believe I didn't see it until today /s