Jul 6, 2022 9:08 AM
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EurtykeiHongKong
Forbidden fountain
Larkins
well shit
RickRollable
Great shitpost, thanks
NomDeImguerre
Yeah, as a Dutchman, fuck these guys.
lDaKKoNl
Dumb farmers... I understand they do not like what is happening, this just makes me not sympathize any more. Roadblocks, rage, shootings...
IliveIdyeIliveagain
Government worker be like
mymidlifecrisiswasat23
Mcfly!!!!!!
Mrdaihatsu
Suck it up, Biff!
SamuthNBS
That's slurry
GNiko
They seem nice.
Ifekinlovesauerkraut
They *seem* nice... but they are just stupid.
loser9999
Farmers are going to be hit hard by global warming they just haven't figured that out yet
nanyatenyaa
Their products will become increasingly more desired as their supply dwindles*****
blackfox1122
I loved this level in Saints Row, 10/10
GuideWire
Change is hard. Life is hard. It's harder if you are stupid and don't understand. The government should help them though..
Jandegrote
These farmers are cunts and i have had enough of those dickheads by now little crying girls.
TheRoomIsBest
That will show the guy responsible for cleaning that up
MyBigMouth
Can you spare some to dump on Downing Street here in Britain.
certainlynotaserialkiller
Its already full of shit
Skynard
Ah, yes, better go right in the line of fire to film it…dude, literally diarrhea spraying all over!
GeWas
F***ing idiots. They’re killing the environment but still think they have a right to keep doing it
Jawesome19
That seems like a rational adult decision
bridgebrain
If it were a protest for better reasons I'd be all for the genius of it. Imagine if this is what the Supreme court had woken up to
Cataleast
It's not super uncommon for things to get shitty, for lack of a better word, when farmers want to display their displeasure at things.
Lol heyyyoooooooo
Freak0zoid
@op new account, posting only about this. Trying to gain support? I hate these farmers. Stupid idiots.
Cutwail
Nice account you got there, looks like astroturfing to me
Thanks. Google Play store just suggested imgur in the app store.
MrBarn
The farmers are a bit stupid. yeah
jrredneck
Hey! Farmers might take a fence to that.
Compuwiz76
Only if they can read.
bigtwindaddy10
waitwhat1234
I 100% support the right to protest but this just seems like a ridiculous idea that will effect their fellow citizens more than the gov.
MoneyPenni
They have been terrorizing people for a while now. Blocking roads and wanting to block the airport. I am getting sick of them.
Are you in Netherlands? I'm in Canada and have to deal with the freedumb convoy idiots. I'm sooo sick of their shit. And embarassed
Yes i am. Heard them blocking thw road yesterday in my town. Super annoying and honestly it is getting old
And farmers Canada are entitled as well. Cry poor while driving Escalades and $250,000 motorhomes behind their barns.
DapperDeal
I've always wondered why we can't just breed buffalo for slaughter like we do cows. They produce a 1/3 of the emissions. Healthier meat too.
baronnapalm
They can't be domesticated is why. They stay aggressive and are hard to fence as well. If angry they'll crush anything but steel fences
Or I should say it's very time consuming and inefficient to domesticate another "beef like" animal. Probably possible in the long run
LdaQuirm
I'm sure we could. But remember; cows have thousands of years of domestication & breeding head-start on the buffalo breeding program. >>
>> Modern genetics will allow as to create new breeds much faster, but it will still take time and money.
damogen
They are too aggressive
The Dutch are fine, try complementing them on their tractors
Miathan
Or we could just eat plant based food, which is lots more efficient to produce than first feeding the plants to animals and then eating them
gingerlady
Why do you just post this video without explanation!
HandymanJake
This would be cool if it was a worthy protest. But seeing as how they’re all just whining, selfish, babies…
FeChefImgur
https://gript.ie/watch-dutch-farmers-spray-manure-block-roads-to-protest-climate-change-measures/
doublejubean
Soggybathroomsock
It's a bad source though. Slanted AF.
Only sauce is still best sauce until another sauce gets on the table :-)
This source omits the millions of euro's farmers are getting for their ailing businesses. Also, killing livestock is sort of normal. >>>
The worst thing though is are the parentheses around "official data". The data is the data, the best statisticians have to offer: facts.
MeatPopsicleMultiPass
I mean, cutting down on emissions is good, but are they making sure they're compensated AND making sure big corps do the same?
Hardly any heavy industry in NL anymore & this ain't about CO2, but nitrogen compounds. Farms contribute disproportionately to the latter.
givemeyourpointsplease
Probably yes
WeSingLalaWhileTheDevilDoesTheChaCha
And they'll get absolutely nothing out of it. And yea, Im okay with a bunch of cattle farmers going broke.
Sickmindsmakehistory
Actually they are not broke, most of them have received government subsidy for years.
Those needs to go as well. I might heavily lean left, but capitalism says "If it cant stand by itself, it should fall"
Kats8652
An account made only for spreading this message that the vast majority of imgur doesn't agree with, what a tool.
What message? It's a funny video. There's no hidden cryptic message. Not everything is about taking a side lol.
Please don't pollute my post with hateful and negative comments. There's enough hate in the world. Please spread it somewhere else. Thanks!
TheMagicalUpvoteFearie
Fuck these farmers, they started out sympathetically then blocked off food and medicine centers, highways etc.
Please don't spread hate or insults on my posts. No need to spread negatively and hate. Sometimes a video is just funny.
wheredidwegonow
Destroyed protected nature fur fun, believe everything the wealthy agrifirms tell them, the dumb fucks
They've now been infiltrated by a group that has the same ideals as the GQP
Aetherblade
Nothing infiltrated about it. Always was the same kind of nutters.
No insults or hate on my posts, please. No need to spread hate and toxic beliefs because you don't think a video is funny.
Toxic beliefs and calling a turd a turd is not the same, some people don't need the cheering on however funny you think they are
michBeast
Why?
BeeWoman
They have to halve their livestock to cut down emissions.
Switching to buffalo would cut their emissions to 1/3. We made cows a global animal, why not buffalo. Bison is healthier too.
Elkarlo77
No they have to deliver it to a Biopowerplant which runs with liquid Manure. That would reduce their Emissions massivly.
Germany has already 5,6 Gigawatt on Biogaspowerplants. Most of them running on liquid Manure. Dutch have none.
RoyalOss
Pretty sure we have those, Ive driven past such plant before, you can smell it from miles away.
DykeReeve
There are hardly any Biogas Plants running on manure. Almost all use maize. Source: My brother installed 1 of the 1st ones running on manure
Cant you throw a whole bunch of shit in there and it doesnt really care? Here they take grass and other clippings too.
welcometothedystopia
In protest of what?
reichstein
You need a reason?
Ikwilstroopwaffels
They want more money. Several million a year isnt enough for them. Seriously, they're the MAGA of the Netherlands.
easyoneundone
stinking politics
Margrave9000
It's the usual redneck riot against fighting climate change and reducing pollution. Let the riot police have their fun with those fuckwits.
JaxJamesTheTenaciousTurtle
Their own idiotic past decisions, basically.
Dontstopbelever2000ismyfavoritesoap
Protest?
knowallknownothing
What protest? Looks like tourists to me.
RandomlyAppointedNSAAgent
Just for fun, Dutch farmers are crazy like that /s
McPenguin
The government was running low on manure.
Whatdoyousaytoanicecupoftea
Manure shortages
DeKetsendeRechter
Things are rough but they're not the only ones. Our right wing government is just fucking shit. But these farmers are being fucking idiots>
with their latest rounds of "protesting". Whole country is chewing them out, like the anti-vaxxers and shit.
Hiba75
Nothing. Just wait for real protest.
khora
Protest? No, it's just tradition.
copingcabana
The government being full of shit.
Rakeinthelake
Shit.
CanadianEngineer
The usual bullshit
TheAngriestKoala
The rent, is too damn high
whitebbwolf
being left the responsibility 4 food production while climate change measures r dropped on them w/out nearly non on dutch Oil corps
If by "responsibility for food production" you mean exorbitant amounts of exported food and billions of euro's in profit, then, yes.
yeah totally meant that. thx for clearing that up
You do realize that the amount of nitrogen (the actual problem at hand) emited by heavy industry is dwarfed by that emited by farms, right?
Basiritz
Having their lives destroyed with new laws that accomplish nothing but ruining farmer lives.
Alternate take on the: farmers get millions for their failing business models after having known for decades this was coming, >>>
While whining about "tradition", which was actually started by government subsidies after WW2, to increase protein production. >>>
Meanwhile, the Dutch are the nr1 meat exporter in the EU, and nr4 diary exporter worldwide. Wildly disproportionate to population.
Artsisdead
Fuck off, they're the GQP of the Netherlands, climate change deniers, conspiracy nuts
therealbardman
They heard politicians were spreading shit.
filton2018
Didn't like the competition, eh?
Getting disowned for reaching state’s environmental goals.
Dude, stop. This shit has been widely known for decades. Only now, they're whining about "tradition" (yeah since WW2) while getting millions
Wurmheart
Dutch gov wants to reduce farms by 50~75% to cut down on nitrogen emissions as per EU agreements to preserve natura 2000 zones in the N.
UdensZirnis
They should, Dutch farmers use at least triple amounts of nitrogen than east european farmers do. The yields are the same. They have to stop
weerdo
They dont, different countries different methods of calculations and margins of error.
Whole EU has to reduce nitrogen use by certain %. By the same % (can't recall exactly). They have to reduce the most cus they using the most
AllHailTechnoViking
Not quite. The govt wants to reduce the nitrogen emission by 50~75%. A fixed plan has not been created yet.
No, I wrote farms on purpose. The farmers believe that the dutch govt is specifically blocking alternative solutions & after their land.
Yeah, the operating word there being 'believe'. They're conspiracy driven and violent. They need to get their heads out of their asses.
That is incorrect. Subsidies to improve the industry have existed for years. The farmers just decided not to invest.
VinzClorthoInSunglasses
No protest, just real freedom.
Freeedum!
Let me guess. America?
Evillairforrent
Netherlands actually
I know. I just think that OP's opinion is... uh... very American.
Very unpatriotic Brit actually, quite anti-american, but I don't need to go into that. Original comment is misinterpreted. Such is life.
I meant real freedom. Not Freedom™ (T&C apply)
There is freedom and there is stupidity. This is stupidity. People who don't want to change for the benefit of all, just because they 1/2
2/2 are set in their ways.
Being payed millions of euro's, often far more than their hardly profitable and highly subsidized businesses are worth, to stop farming.
TheLiteraryMachine
Sounds like American farmers too...
Any1EyeWant
Hear hear!
New regulations around climate change and farming emissions.
LostDutchy
Infused with right wing anti government conspiracy sentiments
Trelis
France sadly had similar issue, more taxes in oil, to encourage alternatives for better climate. After huge protests they had to relent.
Torsun
I was stuck on the a35 behind those fucking tractors
TheMadOnion
Take away their fucking subsidies then. If they hate government regulation so much.
freezingpilot
I agree with this approach.
MCNewYorkLives
They're upset that the government isn't doing enough or that the government is "overreaching"
drunkill
they don't want to cut down on fertilizer or actually do something about water runoff into the rivers, so 'bloody government red tape'
Idontwantmybrothertoknowmyname
Bcause its more reglementation for them. Saddly the farmer syndicates are strong in europe and they are supported by petrochimic industry
JimFromMarketing
Those are.... Both of the things government can do
Yes, but what I mean is "is this protesting the govt not protecting abortion rights or protesting govt requiring masks?"
IcamtSpelUkelele
Weird you would air quote overreaching. Do you think govts can’t become tyrannical?
ImperatorWesticles
I don't think you know what air quote means.
DocWats
Not weird at all considering this wasn't an overreach and the farmers knew about it well in advance. These farmers are either fools or asses
nero4ty2
or both
JonWallace1985
They definitely can, but emission controls is t tyranny
Ehh. Govt’s can certainly overreach wrt emission control scale. Imagine you wake up tomorrow and your govt said All petrol use is now banned
AllStringsAttached
Even though these aren't all that new.. they just refuse to change. 'Backed' by false pretences and scummy right wing politicians.
Zhevitz
Wrong actually, similiar situation in Germany, they're being fucked financially, and forced to ruin the soil. do ur fuckign research ffs
Provide evidence? Otherwise accepting your response is perhaps more lazy than attempting to draw an independent conclusion.
barnsandnobel
Sauce?
PicassoCT
Of all that land scummy investors put overpriced flats on near city while the farmers nearby never get rich?
Benutzername127001
1/3 Well, farmers treat the soil so "great" that nitrate values are elevated for 35% of measurements and above EU-limits in 17% of ...
Zahnradfee
Against environmental regulations. :/ Sadly, those Dutch farmers are not very progressive.
JohnMike64
French farmers do the same protest against anything. Americans love it without understanding.
They are the MAGA of Netherlands.
Trunkmonkay
No, the Dutch government is choosing to punish it's food producers instead of corporations who make up a majority of carbon emissions.
TheWhiteBarry
You mean to tell me the kind of person who would do this is a piece of shit? I'm shocked.
draconyum
It's not only them, even here farmers are just a bunch of idiots, they care only about profits meanwhile prices for groceries rise daily
Acc87
Eh, you got no clue at all. Actual "profit" is something your typical farmer can only dream about.
No? I'll give you one example. There's one here that possess terrain as far as I can see, he owns a house twice as big as mine, he got 1/2
A son who owns a BMW that probably costs as much as my house, his 2 other daughters are always traveling around Europe in the most 2/3
LadyMoto
If you think it’s so easy and so profitable, maybe you should do it.
No thanks already did , I won't break my spine for a misery of a paycheck for more than 12 hours a day ever in my life, you gain profits 1/2
Only if you own terrain and you under pay those who actually work in it and my country is filled with that scum
Mordeths
Wow this is complete bullshit. Most farmers and ranchers don't make anything. They are lucky if they break even. I suggest you visit a farm.
I suggest you work in one because I did
I'm a rancher. Always have been kiddo.
hjf2011
Don't worry, i'm sure you can survive without agriculture.
OH WORSHIP ME SENPAI KISS KISS
I'm not blaming agriculture, I'm blaming these so called "farmers" when they only know how to drive a tractor
what's your proposal? asking because I work for a german company that struggles to find people that will PEDAL A BIKE to deliver goods >
Are you insane? Being a farmer means being a mechanic, plumber, veterinarian, fabricator, at the very least. You have no real grasp of this.
DisabledParadox
"Salty farmers behave like assholes to everyone because they have to stop raping the planet for profit". No sympathy for these douchebags.
Please don't litter and pollute my posts with hateful and insultive comments. Toxic behavior like that only makes the world worse.
W92Baj
You know where food comes from, right?
You know if we're all fucking dead no one will eat it, right?
If you don't eat it you are dead
You know people farmed or gathered food for 99% of human history without fucking up the planet right?
You know there are almost 8 fucking BILLION people on the planet now, right? Do you know when it was half that number? 1973. In 50 yrs we...
zerkalot
Biological farms, not these industrial farms
cheddarhat
Industrial farms is how you feed billions of people. "Biological farms" just don't have the carrying capacity.
We have so many pigs and cows in our tiny TINY country it's not even funny. 90% is for export. This has nothing to do with our food supply.
Humans exist outside your country. They need food and you need export income
I guess we export them to the moon, then.
RigoryMorty
Yes, but this isn't just about the Dutch farmers, they just implementing the same EU standards the other countries already have.
LunaLucia
Not really fair though, especially for the farmers. Those other EU countries are less densely populated and as a result need way fewer 1/
changes to their policies. 1/3th of the nitrogen influx also originates from neighbouring countries which needs to be overcompensated 2/
on our end. Maybe the worst part is that this issue has been ignored by the government for the last 20! years and now they're essentially 3/
How is that not fair given how much they export? Is it fair to neighboring countries that dutch farmers can farm cheaper and export tons?
It's not any cheaper, and the most unfair part is that these farmers have to suddenly bring half their livestock to the slaughter or 1/
EurtykeiHongKong
Forbidden fountain
Larkins
well shit
RickRollable
Great shitpost, thanks
NomDeImguerre
Yeah, as a Dutchman, fuck these guys.
lDaKKoNl
Dumb farmers... I understand they do not like what is happening, this just makes me not sympathize any more. Roadblocks, rage, shootings...
IliveIdyeIliveagain
Government worker be like
mymidlifecrisiswasat23
Mcfly!!!!!!
Mrdaihatsu
Suck it up, Biff!
SamuthNBS
That's slurry
GNiko
They seem nice.
Ifekinlovesauerkraut
They *seem* nice... but they are just stupid.
loser9999
Farmers are going to be hit hard by global warming they just haven't figured that out yet
nanyatenyaa
Their products will become increasingly more desired as their supply dwindles*****
blackfox1122
I loved this level in Saints Row, 10/10
GuideWire
Change is hard. Life is hard. It's harder if you are stupid and don't understand. The government should help them though..
Jandegrote
These farmers are cunts and i have had enough of those dickheads by now little crying girls.
TheRoomIsBest
That will show the guy responsible for cleaning that up
MyBigMouth
Can you spare some to dump on Downing Street here in Britain.
certainlynotaserialkiller
Its already full of shit
Skynard
Ah, yes, better go right in the line of fire to film it…dude, literally diarrhea spraying all over!
GeWas
F***ing idiots. They’re killing the environment but still think they have a right to keep doing it
Jawesome19
That seems like a rational adult decision
bridgebrain
If it were a protest for better reasons I'd be all for the genius of it. Imagine if this is what the Supreme court had woken up to
Cataleast
It's not super uncommon for things to get shitty, for lack of a better word, when farmers want to display their displeasure at things.
Jawesome19
Lol heyyyoooooooo
Freak0zoid
@op new account, posting only about this. Trying to gain support? I hate these farmers. Stupid idiots.
Cutwail
Nice account you got there, looks like astroturfing to me
boardq7157
Thanks. Google Play store just suggested imgur in the app store.
MrBarn
The farmers are a bit stupid. yeah
jrredneck
Hey! Farmers might take a fence to that.
Compuwiz76
Only if they can read.
bigtwindaddy10
waitwhat1234
I 100% support the right to protest but this just seems like a ridiculous idea that will effect their fellow citizens more than the gov.
MoneyPenni
They have been terrorizing people for a while now. Blocking roads and wanting to block the airport. I am getting sick of them.
waitwhat1234
Are you in Netherlands? I'm in Canada and have to deal with the freedumb convoy idiots. I'm sooo sick of their shit. And embarassed
MoneyPenni
Yes i am. Heard them blocking thw road yesterday in my town. Super annoying and honestly it is getting old
waitwhat1234
And farmers Canada are entitled as well. Cry poor while driving Escalades and $250,000 motorhomes behind their barns.
DapperDeal
I've always wondered why we can't just breed buffalo for slaughter like we do cows. They produce a 1/3 of the emissions. Healthier meat too.
baronnapalm
They can't be domesticated is why. They stay aggressive and are hard to fence as well. If angry they'll crush anything but steel fences
baronnapalm
Or I should say it's very time consuming and inefficient to domesticate another "beef like" animal. Probably possible in the long run
LdaQuirm
I'm sure we could. But remember; cows have thousands of years of domestication & breeding head-start on the buffalo breeding program. >>
LdaQuirm
>> Modern genetics will allow as to create new breeds much faster, but it will still take time and money.
damogen
They are too aggressive
Mrdaihatsu
The Dutch are fine, try complementing them on their tractors
Miathan
Or we could just eat plant based food, which is lots more efficient to produce than first feeding the plants to animals and then eating them
gingerlady
Why do you just post this video without explanation!
HandymanJake
This would be cool if it was a worthy protest. But seeing as how they’re all just whining, selfish, babies…
FeChefImgur
https://gript.ie/watch-dutch-farmers-spray-manure-block-roads-to-protest-climate-change-measures/
doublejubean
Soggybathroomsock
It's a bad source though. Slanted AF.
doublejubean
Only sauce is still best sauce until another sauce gets on the table :-)
Soggybathroomsock
This source omits the millions of euro's farmers are getting for their ailing businesses. Also, killing livestock is sort of normal. >>>
Soggybathroomsock
The worst thing though is are the parentheses around "official data". The data is the data, the best statisticians have to offer: facts.
MeatPopsicleMultiPass
I mean, cutting down on emissions is good, but are they making sure they're compensated AND making sure big corps do the same?
Soggybathroomsock
Hardly any heavy industry in NL anymore & this ain't about CO2, but nitrogen compounds. Farms contribute disproportionately to the latter.
givemeyourpointsplease
Probably yes
WeSingLalaWhileTheDevilDoesTheChaCha
And they'll get absolutely nothing out of it. And yea, Im okay with a bunch of cattle farmers going broke.
Sickmindsmakehistory
Actually they are not broke, most of them have received government subsidy for years.
WeSingLalaWhileTheDevilDoesTheChaCha
Those needs to go as well. I might heavily lean left, but capitalism says "If it cant stand by itself, it should fall"
Kats8652
An account made only for spreading this message that the vast majority of imgur doesn't agree with, what a tool.
boardq7157
What message? It's a funny video. There's no hidden cryptic message. Not everything is about taking a side lol.
boardq7157
Please don't pollute my post with hateful and negative comments. There's enough hate in the world. Please spread it somewhere else. Thanks!
TheMagicalUpvoteFearie
Fuck these farmers, they started out sympathetically then blocked off food and medicine centers, highways etc.
boardq7157
Please don't spread hate or insults on my posts. No need to spread negatively and hate. Sometimes a video is just funny.
wheredidwegonow
Destroyed protected nature fur fun, believe everything the wealthy agrifirms tell them, the dumb fucks
TheMagicalUpvoteFearie
They've now been infiltrated by a group that has the same ideals as the GQP
Aetherblade
Nothing infiltrated about it. Always was the same kind of nutters.
boardq7157
No insults or hate on my posts, please. No need to spread hate and toxic beliefs because you don't think a video is funny.
TheMagicalUpvoteFearie
Toxic beliefs and calling a turd a turd is not the same, some people don't need the cheering on however funny you think they are
michBeast
Why?
BeeWoman
They have to halve their livestock to cut down emissions.
DapperDeal
Switching to buffalo would cut their emissions to 1/3. We made cows a global animal, why not buffalo. Bison is healthier too.
Elkarlo77
No they have to deliver it to a Biopowerplant which runs with liquid Manure. That would reduce their Emissions massivly.
Elkarlo77
Germany has already 5,6 Gigawatt on Biogaspowerplants. Most of them running on liquid Manure. Dutch have none.
RoyalOss
Pretty sure we have those, Ive driven past such plant before, you can smell it from miles away.
DykeReeve
There are hardly any Biogas Plants running on manure. Almost all use maize. Source: My brother installed 1 of the 1st ones running on manure
michBeast
Cant you throw a whole bunch of shit in there and it doesnt really care? Here they take grass and other clippings too.
welcometothedystopia
In protest of what?
reichstein
You need a reason?
Ikwilstroopwaffels
They want more money. Several million a year isnt enough for them. Seriously, they're the MAGA of the Netherlands.
easyoneundone
stinking politics
Margrave9000
It's the usual redneck riot against fighting climate change and reducing pollution. Let the riot police have their fun with those fuckwits.
JaxJamesTheTenaciousTurtle
Their own idiotic past decisions, basically.
Dontstopbelever2000ismyfavoritesoap
Protest?
knowallknownothing
What protest? Looks like tourists to me.
RandomlyAppointedNSAAgent
Just for fun, Dutch farmers are crazy like that /s
McPenguin
The government was running low on manure.
Whatdoyousaytoanicecupoftea
Manure shortages
welcometothedystopia
DeKetsendeRechter
Things are rough but they're not the only ones. Our right wing government is just fucking shit. But these farmers are being fucking idiots>
DeKetsendeRechter
with their latest rounds of "protesting". Whole country is chewing them out, like the anti-vaxxers and shit.
Hiba75
Nothing. Just wait for real protest.
khora
Protest? No, it's just tradition.
copingcabana
The government being full of shit.
Rakeinthelake
Shit.
CanadianEngineer
The usual bullshit
TheAngriestKoala
The rent, is too damn high
whitebbwolf
being left the responsibility 4 food production while climate change measures r dropped on them w/out nearly non on dutch Oil corps
Soggybathroomsock
If by "responsibility for food production" you mean exorbitant amounts of exported food and billions of euro's in profit, then, yes.
whitebbwolf
yeah totally meant that. thx for clearing that up
Soggybathroomsock
You do realize that the amount of nitrogen (the actual problem at hand) emited by heavy industry is dwarfed by that emited by farms, right?
Basiritz
Having their lives destroyed with new laws that accomplish nothing but ruining farmer lives.
Soggybathroomsock
Alternate take on the: farmers get millions for their failing business models after having known for decades this was coming, >>>
Soggybathroomsock
While whining about "tradition", which was actually started by government subsidies after WW2, to increase protein production. >>>
Soggybathroomsock
Meanwhile, the Dutch are the nr1 meat exporter in the EU, and nr4 diary exporter worldwide. Wildly disproportionate to population.
Artsisdead
Fuck off, they're the GQP of the Netherlands, climate change deniers, conspiracy nuts
therealbardman
They heard politicians were spreading shit.
filton2018
Didn't like the competition, eh?
DykeReeve
Getting disowned for reaching state’s environmental goals.
Soggybathroomsock
Dude, stop. This shit has been widely known for decades. Only now, they're whining about "tradition" (yeah since WW2) while getting millions
Wurmheart
Dutch gov wants to reduce farms by 50~75% to cut down on nitrogen emissions as per EU agreements to preserve natura 2000 zones in the N.
UdensZirnis
They should, Dutch farmers use at least triple amounts of nitrogen than east european farmers do. The yields are the same. They have to stop
weerdo
They dont, different countries different methods of calculations and margins of error.
UdensZirnis
Whole EU has to reduce nitrogen use by certain %. By the same % (can't recall exactly). They have to reduce the most cus they using the most
AllHailTechnoViking
Not quite. The govt wants to reduce the nitrogen emission by 50~75%. A fixed plan has not been created yet.
Wurmheart
No, I wrote farms on purpose. The farmers believe that the dutch govt is specifically blocking alternative solutions & after their land.
Soggybathroomsock
Yeah, the operating word there being 'believe'. They're conspiracy driven and violent. They need to get their heads out of their asses.
AllHailTechnoViking
That is incorrect. Subsidies to improve the industry have existed for years. The farmers just decided not to invest.
VinzClorthoInSunglasses
No protest, just real freedom.
Ikwilstroopwaffels
Freeedum!
Ifekinlovesauerkraut
Let me guess. America?
Evillairforrent
Netherlands actually
Ifekinlovesauerkraut
I know. I just think that OP's opinion is... uh... very American.
VinzClorthoInSunglasses
Very unpatriotic Brit actually, quite anti-american, but I don't need to go into that. Original comment is misinterpreted. Such is life.
VinzClorthoInSunglasses
I meant real freedom. Not Freedom™ (T&C apply)
Ifekinlovesauerkraut
There is freedom and there is stupidity. This is stupidity. People who don't want to change for the benefit of all, just because they 1/2
Ifekinlovesauerkraut
2/2 are set in their ways.
Soggybathroomsock
Being payed millions of euro's, often far more than their hardly profitable and highly subsidized businesses are worth, to stop farming.
TheLiteraryMachine
Sounds like American farmers too...
Any1EyeWant
Hear hear!
FeChefImgur
New regulations around climate change and farming emissions.
LostDutchy
Infused with right wing anti government conspiracy sentiments
Trelis
France sadly had similar issue, more taxes in oil, to encourage alternatives for better climate. After huge protests they had to relent.
Torsun
I was stuck on the a35 behind those fucking tractors
TheMadOnion
Take away their fucking subsidies then. If they hate government regulation so much.
freezingpilot
I agree with this approach.
MCNewYorkLives
They're upset that the government isn't doing enough or that the government is "overreaching"
drunkill
they don't want to cut down on fertilizer or actually do something about water runoff into the rivers, so 'bloody government red tape'
Idontwantmybrothertoknowmyname
Bcause its more reglementation for them. Saddly the farmer syndicates are strong in europe and they are supported by petrochimic industry
JimFromMarketing
Those are.... Both of the things government can do
MCNewYorkLives
Yes, but what I mean is "is this protesting the govt not protecting abortion rights or protesting govt requiring masks?"
IcamtSpelUkelele
Weird you would air quote overreaching. Do you think govts can’t become tyrannical?
ImperatorWesticles
I don't think you know what air quote means.
DocWats
Not weird at all considering this wasn't an overreach and the farmers knew about it well in advance. These farmers are either fools or asses
nero4ty2
or both
JonWallace1985
They definitely can, but emission controls is t tyranny
IcamtSpelUkelele
Ehh. Govt’s can certainly overreach wrt emission control scale. Imagine you wake up tomorrow and your govt said All petrol use is now banned
AllStringsAttached
Even though these aren't all that new.. they just refuse to change. 'Backed' by false pretences and scummy right wing politicians.
Zhevitz
Wrong actually, similiar situation in Germany, they're being fucked financially, and forced to ruin the soil. do ur fuckign research ffs
nanyatenyaa
Provide evidence? Otherwise accepting your response is perhaps more lazy than attempting to draw an independent conclusion.
barnsandnobel
Sauce?
PicassoCT
Of all that land scummy investors put overpriced flats on near city while the farmers nearby never get rich?
Benutzername127001
1/3 Well, farmers treat the soil so "great" that nitrate values are elevated for 35% of measurements and above EU-limits in 17% of ...
Zahnradfee
Against environmental regulations. :/ Sadly, those Dutch farmers are not very progressive.
JohnMike64
French farmers do the same protest against anything. Americans love it without understanding.
Ikwilstroopwaffels
They are the MAGA of Netherlands.
Trunkmonkay
No, the Dutch government is choosing to punish it's food producers instead of corporations who make up a majority of carbon emissions.
TheWhiteBarry
You mean to tell me the kind of person who would do this is a piece of shit? I'm shocked.
draconyum
It's not only them, even here farmers are just a bunch of idiots, they care only about profits meanwhile prices for groceries rise daily
Acc87
Eh, you got no clue at all. Actual "profit" is something your typical farmer can only dream about.
draconyum
No? I'll give you one example. There's one here that possess terrain as far as I can see, he owns a house twice as big as mine, he got 1/2
draconyum
A son who owns a BMW that probably costs as much as my house, his 2 other daughters are always traveling around Europe in the most 2/3
LadyMoto
If you think it’s so easy and so profitable, maybe you should do it.
draconyum
No thanks already did , I won't break my spine for a misery of a paycheck for more than 12 hours a day ever in my life, you gain profits 1/2
draconyum
Only if you own terrain and you under pay those who actually work in it and my country is filled with that scum
Mordeths
Wow this is complete bullshit. Most farmers and ranchers don't make anything. They are lucky if they break even. I suggest you visit a farm.
draconyum
I suggest you work in one because I did
Mordeths
I'm a rancher. Always have been kiddo.
hjf2011
Don't worry, i'm sure you can survive without agriculture.
Ikwilstroopwaffels
OH WORSHIP ME SENPAI KISS KISS
draconyum
I'm not blaming agriculture, I'm blaming these so called "farmers" when they only know how to drive a tractor
hjf2011
what's your proposal? asking because I work for a german company that struggles to find people that will PEDAL A BIKE to deliver goods >
Mordeths
Are you insane? Being a farmer means being a mechanic, plumber, veterinarian, fabricator, at the very least. You have no real grasp of this.
DisabledParadox
"Salty farmers behave like assholes to everyone because they have to stop raping the planet for profit". No sympathy for these douchebags.
boardq7157
Please don't litter and pollute my posts with hateful and insultive comments. Toxic behavior like that only makes the world worse.
W92Baj
You know where food comes from, right?
Ikwilstroopwaffels
You know if we're all fucking dead no one will eat it, right?
W92Baj
If you don't eat it you are dead
Ikwilstroopwaffels
You know people farmed or gathered food for 99% of human history without fucking up the planet right?
W92Baj
You know there are almost 8 fucking BILLION people on the planet now, right? Do you know when it was half that number? 1973. In 50 yrs we...
zerkalot
Biological farms, not these industrial farms
cheddarhat
Industrial farms is how you feed billions of people. "Biological farms" just don't have the carrying capacity.
DisabledParadox
We have so many pigs and cows in our tiny TINY country it's not even funny. 90% is for export. This has nothing to do with our food supply.
W92Baj
Humans exist outside your country. They need food and you need export income
cheddarhat
I guess we export them to the moon, then.
RigoryMorty
Yes, but this isn't just about the Dutch farmers, they just implementing the same EU standards the other countries already have.
LunaLucia
Not really fair though, especially for the farmers. Those other EU countries are less densely populated and as a result need way fewer 1/
LunaLucia
changes to their policies. 1/3th of the nitrogen influx also originates from neighbouring countries which needs to be overcompensated 2/
LunaLucia
on our end. Maybe the worst part is that this issue has been ignored by the government for the last 20! years and now they're essentially 3/
RigoryMorty
How is that not fair given how much they export? Is it fair to neighboring countries that dutch farmers can farm cheaper and export tons?
LunaLucia
It's not any cheaper, and the most unfair part is that these farmers have to suddenly bring half their livestock to the slaughter or 1/