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bpjarMemePoster
West doest kill although they are extreme
MayorMcWeed
So when they hear about them doing crazy shit, they say man those guys are dicks, but ultimately do nothing about it just like us?
saddlehick
I lived a block from that God awful church for 20 years and almost got arrested counter protesting those butt wipes.
shhhonlysleepnow
Kinetica
Comparing islamic terrorists to the WBC is just about the dumbest apples to oranges comparison I've ever seen, WBC isn't even remotely same
mineovermatter
And the westboro church is like 40 peaple screaming...while Islamic Terrorists are many more,and blow people up.
infamousxiii
Most ppl view WBC as a mild annoyance. I doubt Muslims are like "There goes the islamic fanaticists again, bombing europe. Those rascals!"
theweezel69
I doubt that. Westboro just pickets and yells. Once they start picking up guns, bombs, or even stoning people then they will be the same.
Grombile
There are no gods in any case
MySpiritAnimalIsTheUnpopularOpinionPuffin
Not defending WBC, but I've never seen them bombing or beheading innocent people.
Justalex99
I would call you a liar and point out that roughly 30% of muslims support terrorism. And that's like 400 million people?
turketron3000
But most Christians condemn westboro
unclemeat70
Caaaarlthatkillspeople
What if I told you it's not even close to being a similiar comparison.
Gyiszzlakk
Im not Sure friend married iraqi women. You would consider her Smart till you Talk Politics. They are Incredible racist.
ItTastesLikePurple
Quiet, if you disrupt the narrative, conservatives can't annihilate your personal freedoms in the name of "protecting you from terrorism"
AmishGangsta404
Yeah, except the WBC doesn't strap bombs to children and send them into busy markets..... yet. For real though, fuck them both.
mikemate
DO you know what your talking about? muhammad, their prophet, calls for murder, rape, looting of unbelievers. Jesus says Love your enemy.
cajuninjun
do you know that jesus is also their prophet?
mikemate
of course i do.
aDefenseless9yearOldGirl
the shitheads in the WBC are 65 people, saying mean things. Secondly, many Muslims are ok with terrorism
aDefenseless9yearOldGirl
This is a pew research poll from a study called 'Muslim Americans: middle class and mainly mainstream'
Trickky
Yeah, except Westboro is 1 crazy family that doesn't kill people, while the crazies in Islam number in the 100's of thousands, and throw
Trickky
Gay people off roof tops. This is a terrible comparison.
IOnlyPostThisGif
What if I told you that all Muslims' prophet is a pillager, rapist pedophile who married children? This is a fact. You can DV all ya want ;)
bloatedplutocrat
I didn't know Jesus was a rapist pedophile...neat, TIL!
Mack1986
... so you tolerate them as a nasty segment of your values and legal system?
QuiteADapperAsshole
Yea, certainly they're still super shitty people but ISIS is worse than WBC.
Mack1986
Thats the point i was making. Turning around the post into the OP saying the middle East tolerates extremists
wigglingdangernoodle
The WBC doesn't have a Kill/Death Ratio.
Caaaarlthatkillspeople
Savage.
TheEmperorOfMankind40000
QuiteADapperAsshole
Is this the visualization of a circle jerk?
TheEmperorOfMankind40000
Yes
RutherfordNapkinface
Part of the problem is a lot of middle eastern countries lack the infrastructure to provide public, secular education. So, a lot of kids 1/?
Crackheadpirate
The problem is if women go to school they throw acid in their faces. Or if they get raped they Stone them to death.
stratosphere
Bomb them wilth some infrastructure.
RutherfordNapkinface
End up attending religious schools run by clerics with various motives. Add that to decades of western colonialism and intervention, 2/?
RutherfordNapkinface
And you get a shit load of people who have a query specific framework for their worldview responding to the violence perpetrated against 3/?
RutherfordNapkinface
*very specific
cajuninjun
this, so much this. the lack of education and independent thinking help spread extremism, so easy to manipulate poor uneducated people
RutherfordNapkinface
Their communities. Remember how radical Americans got after 9/11? Or San Bernardino? Now imagine if you and your neighbors were being 4/?
RutherfordNapkinface
Bombed every day. We can't be surprised people chant "death to America" when we've bombed, sanctioned, supported coups and propped up 5/6
RutherfordNapkinface
Dictators for generations.
sadpersonissad
I think a KKK comparison would be more accurate than a WBC comparison. With all of the fundamentalist terrorism and lynchings and such.
dooremouse
I agree with this. Good point.
KillingTheJoke6
Well if we're going back in time, might as well bring out the crusades again. Otherwise, current KKK is not a valid comparison.
lGneousMlracIe
Other than Frazier Miller, give me 1 example of a murder committed by a KKK member the past 20 years, let alone a murder the KKK condoned?
secretlibby
I love whenever examples of Christian fundamentalist violence come up, and people respond with, "Other than that".
lGneousMlracIe
I'm acknowledging that a KKK member did murder 3 jewish people. That's 3 in the past few decades, compared to dozens every week in Islam.
bloatedplutocrat
Oh if we're counting entire religions not just individual groups then the U.S. which the GOP considers a Christian nation should count right
lGneousMlracIe
You seem confused about a great many things & still holding fast to sophomoric beliefs. I hope you find the confirmation you're looking for.
dooremouse
"Other than" ooh just one murder that is proven? That makes them blameless then. Sorry for mistaking these paragons of goodness as a hate
aDefenseless9yearOldGirl
I believe he's saying that this does not draw a good comparison with Islamic militancy
dooremouse
group.
treadwords
You can still insult Christianity without having to fear for your life
CheekiestBreeki
wow, that's not an exaggeration on the ability of a cunt in the desert with a Kalashnikov and hard-on for goats
ghosthendrikson
Swing and a miss.
ghosthendrikson
It amazes me how dumb people on the Internet can be.
buttouchious
Say that shit in the south.
gorillaClutch
live in the south, am atheist, never been threatened with death
gorillaClutch
that thing you can be killed for being in a muslim country
misterbookman
AlabamaShakySnake
I'm liberal and I don't like abrahamic religions or the trump/reblpublican method.
AlabamaShakySnake
Depends on where you live. I've been threatened to believe in "jebus" or I might have an "accident" as the guy showed off his gun.
treadwords
Where can you insult Islam without fear of being killed?
cajuninjun
i did while in Egypt, and nothing happened to me. also i walked around without covering my head and wore yoga pants and still nothing
bloatedplutocrat
Well, you seem to frequently insult Islam. Are you afraid of being killed?
treadwords
That's because I am anonymous and on the Internet.
bloatedplutocrat
So...you aren't afraid of being killed then? Got it sweetie.
dooremouse
That is not necessarily true.
dooremouse
Look at these people downvoting me, living in a fantasy world where Christians have never killed/hurt/maimed someone who wasn't like them.
buttstufficles
I think the downvotes are because Christians aren't still doing that openly and proudly across the globe against civilian targets
dooremouse
Yeah and I'm not saying what the extremists are doing is good, at all. It's really fucking bad, but saying that people can criticize 1
dooremouse
Christianity without fear of harm or even death simply is not true.
treadwords
... yes. Yes it is true.
dooremouse
I have personally heard of many Christian hate crimes in my lifetime. Perpetrated against people who were different. The "insult" was 1/2
dooremouse
their existence. My own grandmother once told me she would happily burn me at the stake with all her Christian buddys because I was bi and 2
dooremouse
a wiccan, so don't you fucking even try to tell me that people are safe from violent Christian hate crimes. Fuck off with that shit.
ColoneISanders
I mean, you're not wrong but I don't think you should insult anyone just because of their religious beliefs.
thevortexmaster
You should be able but it just means you're an asshole
treadwords
I named a religion; as in you should be able to insult a religion.
CantStopTheRock
I do. Pray to this invisible being in the sky to earn his love and go to heaven when you die. If you dont you end up in a lake of fire for..
CantStopTheRock
Eternity. You're damn well right I'm going to disrespect your beliefs, just like all the lunatics that believe the moon is made of cheese
VictarionsCrispyArm
I know this won't get anywhere, but Christians don't believe God is in the sky, or that love is earned. Neither of those are biblical
CantStopTheRock
Sky daddy isnt literal... and whether something is biblical or not hardly affects the mainstream of the religion.
CantStopTheRock
Also opening with "this wont go anywhere" is sabotagung the discussion before it starts.
ColoneISanders
Shh, let him hate unequivocally and hypocritically without knowing what he's talking about.
lGneousMlracIe
What if I told you Westboro Baptist is 65 people & every major government estimates 20-30% of Muslims (200-300M+ people) are fundamentalist?
badleagaladvice
Get out of here with your facts they clearly aren't welcome !!
plastikb0y
ie Just a couple of cunts.
SomeDetroitGuy
I'd let you know that Fundamentalism and extremism aren't the same thing.
JohnnyDeppression
Fundamentalism is the fuel to the fire of extremism.
mikeatike
And that these fundamentalists run entire countries.
Irishda
Fundamentalists run states and countries in the West too, but not every fundamentalist believes in murder
dighthorse
that's the point
answermyquestions
They just believe in drones and invading countries and toppling governments
lGneousMlracIe
I have a source that won't show up here... It's in my comments, or google "Pew Concerns about Islamic Extremism on the Rise in Middle East"
lGneousMlracIe
http://pewrsr.ch/2pgc45o
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lGneousMlracIe
The KKK isn't killing civilians on a daily or even yearly basis. They are a lobbyist group at best. Stop conflating murder with intolerance.
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carbonpage
I hear what you're saying but you're defending the KKK right now
lGneousMlracIe
Oh Identity Politicos. You're so accustomed to every statement being hollow value signaling that when you encounter discussion, you're lost.
carbonpage
That sounds way too angsty to me man. Just steer clear of judgement. Skills != valid human being. Your value judgements do not fit all
horrocj1
Are you suggesting that all fundamentalists are terrorists?
Datmurdaa
Caviot to that is that of those fundamentalists I'm sure very few would actually resort to terroism. It's probably similar to christians
Datmurdaa
Then again with how badly we're fucking up their countries it's probably not as similar as I may even think
lGneousMlracIe
In the places where they're concentrated, it's not considered terrorism, it's just the way of life to behead, rape, pillage, and plunder /1
lGneousMlracIe
2/ Where Christians are concentrated, you just get lots of donut shops and Walmarts. That's the difference a reasonable person understands.
lGneousMlracIe
3/Speaking out against Islam in a Muslim majority town, let alone country, is suicide. The Christian equivalent is being called a sinner.
cajuninjun
your conclusions based on that data you presented are wrong. it doesn't talk about fundamentalism, it asks about extremism, which shows 1/2
cajuninjun
rising levels of fear of extremism and falling levels of agreement with suicide bombings, mostly in countries currently in war agree with it
CantStopTheRock
Fundamentalism and extremism are pretty much synonyms
Scientificevidence
Fundamentalist is not the same as supporting violence. Like, how many Jews support administrative detention in Israel? MORE CONTEXT, BITCHES
EbolaPrime
Actually thats untrue. In the case of Islam fundamentalism is referring to sharia law(pewr). Which calls for the death of quite a few people
Scientificevidence
Sharia law doesn't include suicide bombings. ~60% of Americans support both the death penalty and drone strikes. Are they fundamentalist?
allthenamesrused
You're totally right. But the ancient bedouin Islamic concept of justice doesn't hold a candle to most modern western justice systems..
EbolaPrime
Americans and those countries can be wromg at the same time. But last time I checked America wasn't beheading gays for being gay.
Scientificevidence
All I'm saying is that calling 'for the death of quite a few people' is not the same as supporting terror. Perhaps not even fundamentalism?
LumpySpaceBrotha
Unrelated-ish, but Israel needs to stop listening to their conservative religious (racist?) people, and treat Palestine with more respect
LumpySpaceBrotha
Not saying all Israelis are "racist", but some powerful and vocal Israelis really hate Muslims, and take the "chosen people" idea too far
DadBodThor
Islam/ being Muslim is not a race. No racism there.
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Scientificevidence
Same for Palestinians. Other people are rarely your enemy, despite what leaders tell you.
LumpySpaceBrotha
Agreed, Hamas and certain sectors of Israel's political class need to calm the fuck down and learn how to co-exist