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Is season 4 going to be like this?
Jul 3, 2017 2:04 PM
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Is season 4 going to be like this?
VayaConQueso
And then Barry tells somebody else he's the flash.
BuzzKiIlington
End of season X: "We can't keep secrets and lie to each other" 'I know' Start of season X+1: *The gang keeps secrets and lies to eachother*
imgoingtojailforthis
dennydorko
Meanwhile on ARROW: "I can't let her know about this secret." "I found out about the secret and I hate you!" *reconcile 3 episodes later*
TommyStJames
There is someone faster than me that is going to hurt Iris, let's have a race. Iris is safe. Dad issues, Coffee at Jitters. Speed Force.
Monchompa
Also: Runs in circles to solve all problems.
ACatnippedKitty
Y'all acting like this is something new in TV shows. "Goku, I'm yelling but I can't beat that guy" "lol, yell louder for 4 episodes"
SonderingStrike
Imagine flash-dog, chases his tail so fast, he causes a tornado.
BubbaRunski
*Barry gets beat up* "I can't beat him." Other chars: yes you can, you da bessss! *invents incredible doohickey impossibly fast* Barry wins.
AnAngryOtter
"Barry I believe in you, you can run fast" *Barry runs fast*. Cut down the episode count in half and the quality would probably increase.
Coolbacca
Hey now, what would the show be without 45 minutes of West family drama as filler?
tarabiSmuggler
Every damn episode deals with their emotional baggage!! Can we get a psychiatrist supervillain !! Let him mess with their heads !!
PenInMyPocket
And then say sorry 10 to 20 times in between.
Coolbacca
'THIS IS ALL MY FAULT' 'Barry you're a good person' 'I CANT DO THIS' 'You can because you ARE Barry Allen!' 'I CAN DO THIS!'
Zchxz
I stopped watching when (spoilers) he and Iris wake up at the beginning of every episode saccharine as shit in that way-too-expensive loft.
Spiderbubble
+1 for me learning a new word "Saccharine".
acrethrills
Previously on The Flash...
Kumakin
Sometimes you need a little encouragement to get the job done or the unshakable fear of a deadline.
FiveDollarsIsFiveDollars
Hey I'm relevant.
pancreas
what? You're just an ordinary forensic scientist.
AntonioStark
Join the club.
DontTazeMeBrah
Damn it Barry, stop fucking up the timeline
JustCallMeBean
No, you're the fastest man alive. Get your shit together Barry.
omthetortoise
It's awfully convenient that all the speedy villains attach his city instead of, I don't know... going literally ANYWHERE ELSE
pancreas
Most of them have beef with Barry specifically, not the city.
ApexPredator22
I like how he just held HR in his hands for like 2.5 min instead of going to the hospital
PandaModeler
The Flash keeps people locked up and immobilized in his secret prison without a trial or prospective date of release.
Darkstar318
or a bathroom for christ sake!
Javzx
At least in a deleted scene they show that the prisoners get any dinner they want from any place of their choosing
PandaModeler
Lol really? I have to check that out.
YoshiHike
NotThe
Gayforbae
Batman- I don't have the gadgets to save Gotham. Alfred/luciu -vibrates you do have the gadgets to save Gotham. Batman- I saved Gotham.
SteelStash
I figured the batphone was on vibrate.
Gayforbae
Ok I have no idea how vibrate got in there...
PutThePRNDLinD
You missed a few elements:
PutThePRNDLinD
Every character has secrets that, if they just shared them, would make everything so much better, so much quicker.
PutThePRNDLinD
Barry does something, it screws things up, he tries to fix it...and they get worse. He promises never to do *that* again...
liesuponlies
Then does *that* again but slightly differently and it works and everyone is cool with it now
thisisjunk
Are those elements science-sounding gibberish?
hukopukolukodoso
+1
crabdollar
Legends of Tomorrow: "Barry stop traveling through time your slightest actions in the past can really fuck shit up"
PhantomGeek
Truth
ActualCannibalShia
But when it comes to saving the love of your life changing the future is nearly impossible.
BubbaRunski
Followed by "Lo, I'm gonna marry my ex's grandma." from Roy
DatWhiscash
Flashpoint bois
cthulhuandfriends
Still too soon :(
DontTazeMeBrah
*SPOILER* Then they go full fuck up mode
WalrusPhone
This is like the plot of every DC crossover ever
SlippyFishy
At least DC are doing crossovers... MCU TV shows act like they ignoring each other
SpiderDetective
That's our job - Also the Legends
fartinatornado
I stopped watching after season 2. The writing is really, really bad.
highogbabblebush
I tried watching Arrow but bailed after the episode where he wore a mask while dressed like a security guard to break into a prison.
TalfMorton
All the CW shows and Super Girls have terrible writing and meh acting
PSWIIsixty
At least Supergirl is not completely awful yet.
SaltyInternetPirate
You haven't seen season 2, have you?
Coolbacca
Season 1 was decent, season 2 had a good idea and fucked up the ending, season 3 was...I still haven't figured out wtf happened
DontTazeMeBrah
Season 3 seemed sloppy but the ending really brought it together, do wish they go back to Reverse Flash (origin story) & Rogues (Cold etc)
Coolbacca
The ending was too soon (already going crisis on infinites earth event?) now we probalby get a ton of Wally next season, bleh
JamesProton
I don't know if I want to watch Season 3 on Netflix. I actually loved Zoom until the ending where they pretty much ruined him
Coolbacca
Zoom was great until time duplicates became a thing, just lazy writing to get themselves out of a corner
JamesProton
Agreed. I liked Zoom as a villian because he was exactly like a homicidal person would be and just killed everyone
haveagoodafternoon
Looking forward to Ezra Miller's portrayal in the movie
BubbaRunski
Why? It's a DC movie
Coolbacca
Cause when I think Barry I think nervous panicky anxious dude who kinda looks like an Asian woman
captainmbr
Me too!!
amars1111
I like Ezra Miller an actor I just really enjoyed Grant Gustin as Barry so I guess we'll see how it goes
amars1111
As an actor*
TheOnlyPtylerdactyl
Best case scenario: time travel/universe fuckery leads to DC movies scrapping what doesn't work and absorbing from the CWverse the things
TheOnlyPtylerdactyl
that do work.
Tunisia
Can't wait to see #Olicity on the big screen! /s
blorpsorp
Hes fast enough to save everyone in a burning building.. But there is like NO way he can just disarm Captain cold..
Sacurason
Superhero fans have to accept that the Flash moves at the speed of the script, and Superman is as powerful as the writer wishes him to be.
Kachaw
IDK about the comics but in the show the second cold gun had a "dead man's switch" on it preventing Barry from simply disarming Cpt. Cold.
Kachaw
2/ In season 2 when Barry takes Cold in after the job they run with Cold's Dad however in s2ep3 Barry is able to simply
Kachaw
pluck the gun from Cold. So either a bluff the whole time in the show that the gun had a dead mans switch or a continuity error... as there
Kachaw
was no scene in which it was discussed that Snart/Cold either bluffed about the trigger or was telling the truth.
JustCallMeBean
The worst part is how he gives everyone a chance. He runs in and stops and talks with them. Like, I'd run in and sucker punch them.
TheSnacker
That is the mark of a true hero though. They try to save everyone, even the villains.
JustCallMeBean
I didn't mean a chance to give up. I mean a chance to wreck him. He'll run in and be like "It ends here and now".
JustCallMeBean
Even when he's trying to talk them down from doing a criminal thing, he could have just ran in and knocked them out, then talk to them later
Corona688
Sometimes the way to do that would be punching them.
JustCallMeBean
As opposed to half a second earlier if he had just blindsided them with a haymaker straight to their jaw.
NerdN1
The Flash is stupidly powerful. The only thing that holds him back is that he's an idiot.
Junktrunkjunkie
I like the comics and cartoons where the flash is portrayed as the hero who cares about his city and even his villains. The series... →
Junktrunkjunkie
→ lets give him a few awkward moments with Snart, let the praise go to his head and unabashedly have him screw up peoples lives selfishly.
Coolbacca
And even that is stupid, he can think/reason/strategize faster than anyone else on earth to an absurd degree
skribs
Just because you have a faster processor doesn't mean you have better programming algorithms.
Coolbacca
I'm not saying he should be the smartest person ever but he can adapt and come up with new plans on the fly before the other person blinks
skribs
I've been watching the Justice League cartoon, and he has real slow reflexes for how fast he's supposed to be. Gets caught by surprise a LOT
Coolbacca
Exactly, they have to nerf the shit out of him and it doesn't really make sense
DarthSedition
He's an accomplished chemist in almost every iteration. They only make him dumb so that we have an everyman. I liked how they gave us JR for
DarthSedition
That in this season. Though they didn't abandon the need for help.
skribs
Just because someone is smart at one thing doesn't mean they're a good strategist
DarthSedition
No but given the pseudoscience surrounding what the speed force does to a speedster's brain, and his already genius intelligence, he would
TheGame21x
He kind of has to be in order for most of his villains to have a chance against him. Considering how fast he is, there's no reason he can't
TheGame21x
incapacitate most of them in a second (literally) as soon as he shows up.
DarthSedition
I mean, for the most part he does, one and done villains. The few notable exceptions are Grodd and Snart.
ConsumerOfStories
A typical Flash season: "There's an evil speeder who's faster than me and I don't know who he is." "That'll change and he's someone close"
JustCallMeBean
And it always ends with them being worse off than when the season started. Where's the happ endings? :\
DrShrinker
don't forget 1/3 relationship drama BS.
DarthSedition
Not as bad as Supergirl's. Every. Single. Episode. For like half the season, get with Mon el break up with mon el
WinnSchottJr
The main villains will be the rogues
CmRock136
I liked when he was actually fighting metas and the whole team worked together. It's getting kind of weird now and focuses on Iris too much
GameofFutons
She should have died in the first episode. Annoying as fuck
mmaheshwary
Season 4 villain won't be a speedster.
N1c380085
I mean recently they've been showing him reaching his real limit, and now they are resorting to outsmarting the enemy. Which is better igess
highlandheart
"Am I banging Iris yet? No? Dang!"
HaulinOats
At least Arrow came back with a good season after how terrible 3 and 4 were
msdss
I stopped watching when that annoying cunt became Black Canary.
DarthSedition
She's dead
msdss
Sounds like it's time to start watching again. Seriously though, so many annoying characters on that show...
DarthSedition
Seeing as I watched all the way through, she's kinda been redeemed for me. She was the only weekly character I hated. That said, earth 2
kr18
I swear it's like fucking Smallville in repetitiveness
CatTaxCollecter
The next season is confirmed not to be a speedster, it's DeVoe
TheSnacker
Bleepsy
Who is a pretty dreadful villain in the comics, especially considering he only became a good character after he gave up being a villain.
Icantremembermyusername
I know Devoe was referenced multiple times in season 3 but I thought the rogues were supposed to be the villains of season 4
CatTaxCollecter
We've already had tons of rogues. And there has not been anything saying the villain was rogues, so what makes you think that?
breakingcode
Bel Biv?
CatTaxCollecter
No, Clifford lol
Nuttburger
Next season is supposed to be different, like it's not gonna be another speedster
Nuttburger
I sound like someone trying to convince their mother that their ex has changed for real this time
djcoffi
"He's not a speedster, he actually slows down the world around him and moves at normal speed himself." Something like that? >.>
DontTazeMeBrah
Think mind control
Nuttburger
He vibrates molecules around him
kraeftig
The turtle already died dude
pilomotor
So did Captain Cold, but that didn't stop them from giving someone else an ice theme.
kraeftig
well captain cold was just an ice gun wielding "super"thief. He didn't actually have ice powers.
djcoffi
I wouldn't know since I stopped watching the show. :p
kraeftig
Whoops. Spoilers~
FearsomeFoursome
And then a new person gets some powers
drenix
New season start with the solution from the previous coming back to bite him i nthe ass
FlatPlutoSociety
That's the worst thing about CW's DC shows. EVERYONE has powers or world-class training by the end of season two.
DaleGribble88
That's pretty much just how DC comics are. Everyone is the daughter/son of an assassin, with a super power, and a cool super powered friend
fizzlebuns
That's just DC. Everyone is super special and the best. It's an 8yo power fantasy.
Crimpwithyourthumb
Im the fastest man alive. Besides reverse flash, kid flash, jay Garrick, zoom, the rival, savitar, Jesse quick, and counting.
aflarge
Is there any precedent in the comics for Kid Flash being faster than Real Flash? Because in Young Justice he was NOTHING compared to him.
12SecondSpidey
In comics it's because he has a better connection to the Speed Force than Barry
aflarge
Part of me REALLY wants it to just be "Well he's black. Of course he's faster."
EmperorofJuice
If you'd like I could put together a post about Barry vs Wally to go into detail! In short: Wally is faster, Barry can do more
EverydayIdleness
A lot of the comics basically boil down to this too.
orangeisthenewbasic
this was a quick recap
aleister94
A majority of most fictional stories boil down to this
IWishIWasBlank
Substitute speed for power and you have Bleach in a nutshell.
OriginalSyn
I can't believe I watched that for as long as I did.
IWishIWasBlank
I argue it should have ended after the Aizen arc. And the non-comic episodes were total trash.
dogsunpizza
"I'm the iron fist" "show me" "I can't"
Adthay
Wasn't the reason he couldn't the drugs they had put him on? I thought they explained this through dialogue
AusteninAlaska
Ahhhhhh. THIS. I couldn't get past the first few episodes because of this.
Darkspire
"I not stronk enuf" "ur super stronk!" "I stronk enough!" *stronks*
DeakVanNyke
dunno, Spidey kinda kicked asses different ways each episode on the cartoon show back in the 90s. http://imgur.com/vhCCgmp
Corona688
well that's going to make the secret identity thing awkward.
iamthisguy247
I've found it a lot in recent comic book movies. "The bad guy is too strong, no wait, I have another level of powers that I just now can use
ShouldersDeepInAHorse
But they'll dissapear after this episode and I will continue on being seen as a rookie.
PrincessDonaldTrumpBANNED
Meh, not really, usually its more of a, "I got over myself doubt" moment.
rylecx
mainly just the origin stories which is kinda the point of an origin story
Cheomesh
Recent, you say? http://25.media.tumblr.com/771567b9ef0a0b5bf203eb5f6893dfbb/tumblr_mttvhl00R71s7eo7fo1_500.gif
keyonne
I liked the flash because of his sass. The TV series doesn't have enough sass.
OrangeFlavours
Mostly just has self-loathing.
KimBongChill
Wally is the sassy Flash, Barry is for the most part kinda had a non personality
keyonne
Wallis true flash, just like John is true green lantern.
KimBongChill
Don't get me wrong, I love Barry, Hal too. I like what they've done with them in the New 52 and the Rebirths. I was talking more silver age.
terrasono
Well what the fuck else is he going to do? His power is speed. Is he going to fly and shoot lasers from his eyes?
TimJDrake
He does throw lightning.
AlwaysandEventuallyHannah
Where Superman can do literally anything "because Superman" the Flash is naturally limited to doing literally anything "because speedforce"
OriginalSyn
Is it any wonder than superman is the most boring of all the superheros. No flaws to a fault.
AlwaysandEventuallyHannah
Naturally. That's why "evil Superman" is such a common plot point. He's so fucking DULL as a hero
KimBongChill
No? Superman does have a lot of flaws. He constantly is trying to reconcile the fact that he's an alien with his desire to be human
Corona688
"i hate it when friends are hurt" is not a flaw. "i get angry sometimes when bad people win" is not a flaw.
DrMurloc
I think DBZ is summarized by "we arent strong enough to stall til goku shows up! Wait, yes we are"
Spodermong
Not completely true after namek.
11ama
Antagonist is made known. Protagonist(s) not strong enough. Protagonist learns new technique. Protagonist(s) barely win. Filler. Repeat
11ama
Welcome to the structure of a battle manga.
worldlyredneck
Not DB super though!
TheWorldEndsWithYou
Kinda. The universe 6 arc wasn't like that but future trunks arc yes
Desomega
Future Trunks arc was just "Lets go fight this enemy!" "But he's stronger than us!" "Do it anyway!" *fights and loses* "Wow, run away!" 1/2
Desomega
"Jeez, guys, we almost died there. Maybe we should have a plan next time." "Hey, let's go fight this enemy!" *fights and almost dies* 2/2
TheWorldEndsWithYou
The come back stronger some how then rinse and repeat. I liked it but it got stale fast
SLAANESHonNSFWposts
It's the core of bad fiction. 'Your limits aren't high enough' 'Then I'll just magically surpass them through the power of friendship!
vagimite
You know, this is why I loved WW not having read a damn thing about her story. Steve Trevor was like... you're amazing, but I have to go.
vagimite
That really got to me.
tetragrammatan
NARUTOOO!!! SASUKEEE!!!
ChiLLeCheeze
That ending to it. Yeah, sorry.
TheGame21x
That's literally what happened in DBZ. Goku's best friend gets killed and his anger over the loss allows him to surpass his limits.
WolololoWarrior
Which was the genius of Lee and Kirby to create heroes with limiting flaws.
jeruseq
That's the reason I'm not a big Harry Potter fan, why is he powerful? Love! yup no other real reason. (incoming hate :D )
DarthSedition
He's never actually portrayed as "powerful" he is above average in skill, but there's never any doubt that he's weaker than any adult in the
DarthSedition
Series. As for love, think of the way a horcrux is made, by killing, you tear your soul. So what if that soul, the thing with the power of
DarthSedition
Life, became a shield to protect an innocent? Magic in the series is all based, from what I can tell, on the soul. Love is pure, it's
legion275
Also i guess all the other families Voldiemort killed just didnt love their kids enough.
DarthSedition
More likely they weren't given the chance. Neville could just as easily have been the boy from the prophesy, but because snape overheard and
DarthSedition
Lilly was the woman he loved, he was sure it was Harry. Snape convinced Voldemort to spare Lilly, he even said, that she needn't have died.
Ekajra
Usually Voldy just busted in and started blasting people. He gave Lily Potter a chance to surrender as a favor to Snape (he'd previously...
Ekajra
tried to recruit the Potters too), which gave the set-up for her sacrifice which protected Harry. Other people didn't get the chance.
greasyweiner
that sounds a lot like sailormoon. not that i watched its entire 200 episodes.
JanetVanDyne
SLAANESHonNSFWposts
SnookerSylph
Fairy tail, green lagaan, Naruto to an extent, dbz... happens a whole lot in anime
SkyGraveFyreKeeper
Gurren lagaan is an outlier for those, due to it being about self betterment and evolution through sheer force of will.
TheRealFireFrenzy
Naruto for anything and everything after the chuunin exams
HolyUnholyCannoli
Especially the end where they essentially magic
PowwerOrb13
Fairy tail tries to justify it, either combining techniques, triggering rare techniques we almost never see. Or bullshit with Lucy crying
Quadropillar
Oh man I loved Green Lagaan
SnookerSylph
This stupid new phone auto corrects everything and the system to remove an auto correct is very different from my old droid :/
PuhTater
I was gonna say DBZ
TheCrazyVulcan
I have found the power to.. go.. even futher.. byound! AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
TheClayKnight
No, DBZ is through the power of competitive shouting.
GHOST101010101
DBZ does have it's fair share of actual training too.
ScubaSteve6933
As well as several blown out O-rings, I would imagine.