Jan 14, 2018 8:23 AM
PersonaSkull
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RavageTheSavageSandMonkey
Anyone have the link to the Reddit theory about this?
delven
Maybe jar-jar was neither Jedi master or Sith Lord, perhaps he was a balanced force user who saw that the universe was greviously unbalanced
Bubbabang
TheRealPascha
What about that clone trooper that sucker-punched a droid while Obiwan wasn't looking??
ChestnutCritter
r/prequelmemes
Lonelyheartpoet
I am so happy for these new movies. I think it is not allowed to say here, but TLJ is my favorite so far.
DrSharkbite
v
Tellcerseiitwasme
Who the fuck was snoke.
iscasaci
This is something that always bothered me; why didn't the gungans pick up still clearly functioning blasters from the fallen droids.
shhep
Because they were ID-locked to a droid? Because the triggers were too small. Because it's a film?
GadenKerensky
Jar Jar may have been unnecessary and annoying, but I must admit, the other Gungans don't seem the same; look at them punching droids.
Sauroctonus
They even managed to capture General Grievous once. Captain Tarpals is a great example of a Gungan warrior.
I remember reading a comic about Tarpals and Jar Jar; Tarpals looked out for Jar Jar too much, to the point they said Jar Jar would be the >
death of him. So when it came to him being exiled, Tarpals did it himself, and left Jar Jar with those words.
Blank666
Always upvote Jar Jar
Sheldonian
You monster!
TellusEidolon
MonsieurLeMoustache
don't know if i should upvote or downvote this comment
wittie888
ಥ_ಥ
BigAZNMan
Am I the only one that didn't have a problem with the Gungans or Episode 1 in general?
PeggingandTransFanboyExPlusMachina
I liked episode 1 but Jar Jar certainly brings it down a lot. The other issues with the movie are rather minor but Jar Jar exacerbates them.
Agressiveinliners
Best movie in the whole series if you ask mr.
GiddyKipper
One of few ...
DrClaww
I didn't have a problem with Gungans...I had a problem with a CGI fuckmuppet character that happened to be a gungan, Qui-gon was badass
asm80dfa8sdfj
Yes.
QuitLookinAtMineAim
This should probably be a puffin
TheMortiestMortyfromC137
No
Schmuck4hire
Plenty of children accepted it.
kirstar
Disney had to make money somehow
Zeddofthefirstorder6969
I enjoy the prequels more than I do TLJ.
DarkLionArt
They couldn't even keep the names of the aliens right...in part of the movie they are called gungadins and then gungans...smh
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DickTugsMore
I thought the naboo fighters were super neat too.
youareawonderfulperson
One of the most effective songs too! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlYCxbBZUCY
gandraw
Favorite Jedi? He was a scamming manipulator who went behind the back of his bosses multiple times for no good reason.
aguacatedeldiablo
No. I don't even hate TPM, just no.
MeanMisterClean
I don't understand this Darth Maul hype. He just looks cool, but that's it. Doesn't say/do shit.
Calaros
He had the best lightsaber fight of the whole franchise though
Greatwood
There are dozens of us!
Well; a handful maybe. Like the out of town relatives you don't look forward to seeing.
I liked Padme and enjoyed speed racing. Darth Maul was an epic character, but the story was far from good compared to A New Hope.
TheShadowsLengthen
Sssshhhhh ! They'll hear you ! You fool ! You'll doom us all !
Qumefox
I don't think people hated the Gungans. Just Jar Jar.
Even Jar Jar didn't annoy me. Granted I was 10, but still doesn't bother me.
Talk about Jar Jar and everyone loses their mind, talk about Porgs and they suddenly are the best thing that ever hit Star Wars. 1/2
Jar Jar is basically the same as a Porg in the movies- he just could talk. 2/2
Jar Jar talking is most of the reason why people hated him lol.
arphaSleepWrecker
Mmh I accurately dislike the gungans and I really hate jar jar
Why do you dislike the Humans? What is the reasoning?
*Gungans, damn autocorrect
It s hard to explain English not being my main language. I ll do my best. In most movie they re is one character that one specific person is
strangelyaddicting
The story about JarJar being a sith lord is the only plausible explanation for eps 1-3. I only wish it had ended that way.
wokegamergirI
Me too
abacaxi
Wesa Gungans wesa Sith lords.
theyar
No, it's a stupid overwrought joke.
It wouldn't have made him any less annoying in Ep 1... but it would've maybe made it worthwhile.
knotshittingyou
So he wasn't discovered then
millanbel
Well he pretty much orchestrated Palpatine's coming to power. I think that's proof enough
LeSethX
I've seen an edit of Ep 1 that removed most of Jar Jar's lines and it cuts out nearly 30 minutes. It was great
redsilverchum
RoombaTheAssaultVacuum
Episode 9. We still have episode 9 and a faint glimmer of hope.
DigitalHare
Not sure that's too unpopular, to be honest. That hypothesis (?) would have been rather neat, speaking as a non-Star Wars fan.
At this rate anything can happen in the Star Wars universe people just believe there is only one way.
Luke had a clone?!?
admiralawesome4213
I honestly believe that if they hadn't made jar jar a huge joke from the beginning the storyline would have stayed as was. It was their 1/2
Own fault really. You can't take a purely comic relief based character and suddenly make them the equivalent of space hitler.
nouseforaheart
NO.
FreyaNicci
The better one is that it's the badly done retelling of the shit R2D2 saw. Long ago in a galaxy far away implies a story being told
FutureRageComics
that is idiotic fan theory... just fans making themselves feel better because jar jar sucked.
Downvote truth.
irlogan
https://youtu.be/8yy3q9f84EA
imonewiththeforceandtheforceiswithme
I like what they did with his character, the sad clown is a powerful image. He had the galaxy’s ear & was manipulated into giving it to evil
Frogapus
Given the era this movie came out, that would make JarJar George W Bush?
Potentially, with Cheney as Sidious?
Now THAT works perfectly!
neospor1n
I don’t mean to get political, but did we elect jarjar to president
Jar Jar is irritating, he has awful social etiquette... But he's well-meaning and helpful. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
No, JarJar has redeeming qualities :P Plus there isn’t a selfish bone in his body, he’s loyal to a fault (which is what Palp exploited)
NecronomiKane
Meesah hearin fake news!
realskramz
Tbh that would've been the laziest twist of all times. God I don't even know what I would do if I had to see that.
Burarum
Read the reddit thread about him being a sith-lord and you will agree. Trust me.
I did actually and seen the videos etc. Funny idea but if it was reality I would punch George Lucas in his face.
danishjuggler21
“Massa Qui-Gon, dissen circle ees now complete. Meessa da massa now!”
Why do you think it would've been lazy?
"The most idiotic character was the big bag guy the whole time" is an incedibly overdone twist imo. Making a character really incompentent >
bag guy lol bad guy*
> then revealing it to be the opposite feels like a Scooby-Doo villian. It was good when Keyser Söze did it but Jar Jar doesn't fit at all.
Millsslslsls
Ya, but Id still prefer it to "This idiotic character is an idiot, let us show you how he is an idiot. Do you understand he's an idiot yet?"
ThePiedPiperofRuination
Supposedly, Jar Jar was intended to be powerful but fan backlash to episode 1 was so strong that they dropped that storyline.
LetumComplexo
That’s because he’s essentially an amalgamation of the worst stereotypes for several races blended into one obnoxious frog man.
Teksura
Plot twist: Fan love for the "JarJar is a Sith Lord" theory makes them bring it back for Episode 9.
igotwheels
Lucas doesn’t care THAT much about fan opinions. If that was his intention he would have stuck to it
I mean that gets traction with SW fans, but as far as film making goes, you don't make a comic relief mascot aimed at kids if you want to
make a valuable character out of it. There is a reason why Olaf in disney-snow or Horse in Tangled or so many other comic relief sidekicks
are always there, but never accomplish anything. If they did, they'd mean more. If they'd mean more, they wouldn't be this stupid, fun joke.
pancrazio
Except the way they ruined Gimli in LOTR
CambamThankYouMaam
Disagree. I think they did it well in Naruto
Where did you hear that?
Imgur and Reddit threads mainly. I say "supposedly" because I haven't seen anything official about the Jar Jar rumor.
SirDuckOnQuack
I remember Lucas saying "Jar Jar is the key to all this" before TPM. Technically he still was, but never caught.
SeaInfernoRex
Jar Jar could have been so fucking awesome had he been written like a soldier kicked out of the city for starting a coup instead of a 1/2
TheAngryMarineBiologist
Have you seen the fan edit where they dubbed over Jar Jar's stuff and basically made Gungans into a life debt/mercenary race?
2/2 clumsy fuckwit made of CGI and pure stupidity.
No. There can only be two, you ignorants. There is no way in hell he was a sith Lord. Read the books, watch the clone wars
I never understood why am I supposed to treat some glorified fanfiction some literary wannabe shit out as canon. Because in books literally
anything goes. Nobody puts any sort of rein on those writers and they go mad with power.
The thing with the rule of two, though, is that the master wields power and the apprentice is there to covet it. Apprentices are expected>
< to overthrow their masters. And masters don't want to do all the work themselves. If you've just overthrown your old master, you want>
< someone to order about, because you're the master. Hence secret apprentices, who are there to replace the apprentice.
Um, Palpatine's intentions were very clear. While Vader was his apprentice, Luke would be Vader's apprentice and turned, also Leia
Palpatine would use the strongest Force-user he could. He'd probably have tried to turn Yoda if he thought it possible.
Yes, do you know why? So sheev could get rid of Vader. There was no intent to keep him or even Leia or luke alive. Only one would survive
lol did you just downvote me over my comment and then thought we'd continue some kind of debate? Take care, crazy
What?
WeezyWee
There were always more than two. Sidious, Maul, Dooku all Sith at same time
No. Dooku wasn't in the picture until attack of the clones. And when maul returned with savajj, well, sheev took care of that
The Sith are all about manipulation. The master will convince their apprentice that they are the successor, and it's the two of them >
< versus the galaxy... While also having another apprentice who is told the same thing, who might have their own apprentice to help >
RavageTheSavageSandMonkey
Anyone have the link to the Reddit theory about this?
delven
Maybe jar-jar was neither Jedi master or Sith Lord, perhaps he was a balanced force user who saw that the universe was greviously unbalanced
Bubbabang
TheRealPascha
What about that clone trooper that sucker-punched a droid while Obiwan wasn't looking??
ChestnutCritter
r/prequelmemes
Lonelyheartpoet
I am so happy for these new movies. I think it is not allowed to say here, but TLJ is my favorite so far.
DrSharkbite
Tellcerseiitwasme
Who the fuck was snoke.
iscasaci
This is something that always bothered me; why didn't the gungans pick up still clearly functioning blasters from the fallen droids.
shhep
Because they were ID-locked to a droid? Because the triggers were too small. Because it's a film?
GadenKerensky
Jar Jar may have been unnecessary and annoying, but I must admit, the other Gungans don't seem the same; look at them punching droids.
Sauroctonus
They even managed to capture General Grievous once. Captain Tarpals is a great example of a Gungan warrior.
GadenKerensky
I remember reading a comic about Tarpals and Jar Jar; Tarpals looked out for Jar Jar too much, to the point they said Jar Jar would be the >
GadenKerensky
death of him. So when it came to him being exiled, Tarpals did it himself, and left Jar Jar with those words.
Blank666
Always upvote Jar Jar
Sheldonian
You monster!
PersonaSkull
TellusEidolon
MonsieurLeMoustache
don't know if i should upvote or downvote this comment
wittie888
ಥ_ಥ
BigAZNMan
Am I the only one that didn't have a problem with the Gungans or Episode 1 in general?
PeggingandTransFanboyExPlusMachina
I liked episode 1 but Jar Jar certainly brings it down a lot. The other issues with the movie are rather minor but Jar Jar exacerbates them.
Agressiveinliners
Best movie in the whole series if you ask mr.
GiddyKipper
One of few ...
DrClaww
I didn't have a problem with Gungans...I had a problem with a CGI fuckmuppet character that happened to be a gungan, Qui-gon was badass
asm80dfa8sdfj
Yes.
QuitLookinAtMineAim
This should probably be a puffin
TheMortiestMortyfromC137
No
Schmuck4hire
Plenty of children accepted it.
kirstar
Disney had to make money somehow
Zeddofthefirstorder6969
I enjoy the prequels more than I do TLJ.
DarkLionArt
They couldn't even keep the names of the aliens right...in part of the movie they are called gungadins and then gungans...smh
[deleted]
[deleted]
DickTugsMore
BigAZNMan
I thought the naboo fighters were super neat too.
youareawonderfulperson
One of the most effective songs too! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlYCxbBZUCY
gandraw
Favorite Jedi? He was a scamming manipulator who went behind the back of his bosses multiple times for no good reason.
aguacatedeldiablo
No. I don't even hate TPM, just no.
MeanMisterClean
I don't understand this Darth Maul hype. He just looks cool, but that's it. Doesn't say/do shit.
Calaros
He had the best lightsaber fight of the whole franchise though
Greatwood
There are dozens of us!
GiddyKipper
Well; a handful maybe. Like the out of town relatives you don't look forward to seeing.
Lonelyheartpoet
I liked Padme and enjoyed speed racing. Darth Maul was an epic character, but the story was far from good compared to A New Hope.
TheShadowsLengthen
Sssshhhhh ! They'll hear you ! You fool ! You'll doom us all !
Qumefox
I don't think people hated the Gungans. Just Jar Jar.
BigAZNMan
Even Jar Jar didn't annoy me. Granted I was 10, but still doesn't bother me.
kirstar
Talk about Jar Jar and everyone loses their mind, talk about Porgs and they suddenly are the best thing that ever hit Star Wars. 1/2
kirstar
Jar Jar is basically the same as a Porg in the movies- he just could talk. 2/2
Qumefox
Jar Jar talking is most of the reason why people hated him lol.
arphaSleepWrecker
Mmh I accurately dislike the gungans and I really hate jar jar
Calaros
Why do you dislike the Humans? What is the reasoning?
Calaros
*Gungans, damn autocorrect
arphaSleepWrecker
It s hard to explain English not being my main language. I ll do my best. In most movie they re is one character that one specific person is
strangelyaddicting
The story about JarJar being a sith lord is the only plausible explanation for eps 1-3. I only wish it had ended that way.
wokegamergirI
Me too
abacaxi
Wesa Gungans wesa Sith lords.
theyar
No, it's a stupid overwrought joke.
Schmuck4hire
It wouldn't have made him any less annoying in Ep 1... but it would've maybe made it worthwhile.
knotshittingyou
So he wasn't discovered then
millanbel
Well he pretty much orchestrated Palpatine's coming to power. I think that's proof enough
LeSethX
I've seen an edit of Ep 1 that removed most of Jar Jar's lines and it cuts out nearly 30 minutes. It was great
redsilverchum
RoombaTheAssaultVacuum
Episode 9. We still have episode 9 and a faint glimmer of hope.
DigitalHare
Not sure that's too unpopular, to be honest. That hypothesis (?) would have been rather neat, speaking as a non-Star Wars fan.
kirstar
At this rate anything can happen in the Star Wars universe people just believe there is only one way.
kirstar
Luke had a clone?!?
admiralawesome4213
I honestly believe that if they hadn't made jar jar a huge joke from the beginning the storyline would have stayed as was. It was their 1/2
admiralawesome4213
Own fault really. You can't take a purely comic relief based character and suddenly make them the equivalent of space hitler.
nouseforaheart
NO.
FreyaNicci
The better one is that it's the badly done retelling of the shit R2D2 saw. Long ago in a galaxy far away implies a story being told
FutureRageComics
that is idiotic fan theory... just fans making themselves feel better because jar jar sucked.
theyar
Downvote truth.
irlogan
https://youtu.be/8yy3q9f84EA
imonewiththeforceandtheforceiswithme
I like what they did with his character, the sad clown is a powerful image. He had the galaxy’s ear & was manipulated into giving it to evil
Frogapus
Given the era this movie came out, that would make JarJar George W Bush?
imonewiththeforceandtheforceiswithme
Potentially, with Cheney as Sidious?
Frogapus
Now THAT works perfectly!
neospor1n
I don’t mean to get political, but did we elect jarjar to president
Sauroctonus
Jar Jar is irritating, he has awful social etiquette... But he's well-meaning and helpful. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
imonewiththeforceandtheforceiswithme
No, JarJar has redeeming qualities :P Plus there isn’t a selfish bone in his body, he’s loyal to a fault (which is what Palp exploited)
NecronomiKane
Meesah hearin fake news!
realskramz
Tbh that would've been the laziest twist of all times. God I don't even know what I would do if I had to see that.
Burarum
Read the reddit thread about him being a sith-lord and you will agree. Trust me.
irlogan
https://youtu.be/8yy3q9f84EA
realskramz
I did actually and seen the videos etc. Funny idea but if it was reality I would punch George Lucas in his face.
danishjuggler21
“Massa Qui-Gon, dissen circle ees now complete. Meessa da massa now!”
Schmuck4hire
Why do you think it would've been lazy?
realskramz
"The most idiotic character was the big bag guy the whole time" is an incedibly overdone twist imo. Making a character really incompentent >
realskramz
bag guy lol bad guy*
realskramz
> then revealing it to be the opposite feels like a Scooby-Doo villian. It was good when Keyser Söze did it but Jar Jar doesn't fit at all.
Millsslslsls
Ya, but Id still prefer it to "This idiotic character is an idiot, let us show you how he is an idiot. Do you understand he's an idiot yet?"
ThePiedPiperofRuination
Supposedly, Jar Jar was intended to be powerful but fan backlash to episode 1 was so strong that they dropped that storyline.
LetumComplexo
That’s because he’s essentially an amalgamation of the worst stereotypes for several races blended into one obnoxious frog man.
Teksura
Plot twist: Fan love for the "JarJar is a Sith Lord" theory makes them bring it back for Episode 9.
igotwheels
Lucas doesn’t care THAT much about fan opinions. If that was his intention he would have stuck to it
shhep
I mean that gets traction with SW fans, but as far as film making goes, you don't make a comic relief mascot aimed at kids if you want to
shhep
make a valuable character out of it. There is a reason why Olaf in disney-snow or Horse in Tangled or so many other comic relief sidekicks
shhep
are always there, but never accomplish anything. If they did, they'd mean more. If they'd mean more, they wouldn't be this stupid, fun joke.
pancrazio
Except the way they ruined Gimli in LOTR
CambamThankYouMaam
Disagree. I think they did it well in Naruto
imonewiththeforceandtheforceiswithme
Where did you hear that?
ThePiedPiperofRuination
Imgur and Reddit threads mainly. I say "supposedly" because I haven't seen anything official about the Jar Jar rumor.
SirDuckOnQuack
I remember Lucas saying "Jar Jar is the key to all this" before TPM. Technically he still was, but never caught.
SeaInfernoRex
Jar Jar could have been so fucking awesome had he been written like a soldier kicked out of the city for starting a coup instead of a 1/2
TheAngryMarineBiologist
Have you seen the fan edit where they dubbed over Jar Jar's stuff and basically made Gungans into a life debt/mercenary race?
SeaInfernoRex
2/2 clumsy fuckwit made of CGI and pure stupidity.
TheMortiestMortyfromC137
No. There can only be two, you ignorants. There is no way in hell he was a sith Lord. Read the books, watch the clone wars
irlogan
https://youtu.be/8yy3q9f84EA
shhep
I never understood why am I supposed to treat some glorified fanfiction some literary wannabe shit out as canon. Because in books literally
shhep
anything goes. Nobody puts any sort of rein on those writers and they go mad with power.
Sauroctonus
The thing with the rule of two, though, is that the master wields power and the apprentice is there to covet it. Apprentices are expected>
Sauroctonus
< to overthrow their masters. And masters don't want to do all the work themselves. If you've just overthrown your old master, you want>
Sauroctonus
< someone to order about, because you're the master. Hence secret apprentices, who are there to replace the apprentice.
DrClaww
Um, Palpatine's intentions were very clear. While Vader was his apprentice, Luke would be Vader's apprentice and turned, also Leia
Sauroctonus
Palpatine would use the strongest Force-user he could. He'd probably have tried to turn Yoda if he thought it possible.
TheMortiestMortyfromC137
Yes, do you know why? So sheev could get rid of Vader. There was no intent to keep him or even Leia or luke alive. Only one would survive
DrClaww
lol did you just downvote me over my comment and then thought we'd continue some kind of debate? Take care, crazy
TheMortiestMortyfromC137
What?
WeezyWee
There were always more than two. Sidious, Maul, Dooku all Sith at same time
TheMortiestMortyfromC137
No. Dooku wasn't in the picture until attack of the clones. And when maul returned with savajj, well, sheev took care of that
Sauroctonus
The Sith are all about manipulation. The master will convince their apprentice that they are the successor, and it's the two of them >
Sauroctonus
< versus the galaxy... While also having another apprentice who is told the same thing, who might have their own apprentice to help >