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Sauces for those of you who like to click:
https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/DC
https://judiciary.house.gov/uploadedfiles/george_floyd_jpa_2021_fact_sheet_.pdf
minipancho94
glad people are finally seeing that the GQP have been playing the long con to undermine our democracy. trump forced them to play too early.
JasonHaugen
Didn't the democrats think Hillary was going to stomp Trump, ultimately getting the nomination back to them anyway?
baals
Werent old timey Republicans for like today's democrats, the whole lincoln was a repub debate?
ThailandExpress
minipancho94
a functioning democracy would kill their party, and prevent a white nationalist revival. of course they hate democracy.
CoarseAndSalty
Yeah, complaining about populists who unfairly represent the people to gain power is sort of their battlecry.
Blightsteel101
Republicans can't win anything fairly. Once we manage to start get rid of their current shenanigans, itll snowball into a lot of good change
Blightsteel101
Sorry in advance for typos. Lil drunk atm
TorinMcQ
Unfortunately, the Senate still needs to vote on it. And it needs 10 GQP votes to pass. Those votes are unlikely.
Turbolibros
Aww, is someone worried about losing power?
apollo661
Yep, their whole platform is against getting with the times, so they have to get increasingly shitty to stop the times from changing things.
Shaodyn
I bet that if DC was like 90% white, Republicans wouldn't care. They've been trying to get non-white people not to vote, and here comes a >
Shaodyn
majority non-white area full of potential voters about to become a state.
JelloGearSemisolid
spanielsarethebestdogs
Heather cox richardson is awesome! She provides all references, and relates current events to history. Learning so much from her posts.
hamx3
#1 l
FromEcotopia
I’d hate to be Without the filibuster if the situation were reversed
TevishSzat
That's the main argument against ditching it. However, exhibit A: Gorsuch. Repubs will ditch it without a thought when it hurts them. >
TevishSzat
Therefore, it can be assumed that a 'full force' Fillibuster is no defense against abuse of power, and it should be reformed or removed.
Stressedbythisshirt24
Why do mitch, Lindsey and ted, the evil trinity of corrupt assholes, even still have jobs? They did and enabled so much harm to america
dontrike
Fucking Ted Cruz lying like he needs it to breathe.
lwoshea
The GOP is a domestic terrorist organization and needs to be treated as such.
afatrollofmyown
They are nothing but a criminal organisation formed to kill people.
BosunMark
The GQP is no longer a Political party but an Insurgent organization intent on ending democracy.
mothmam
Letters from an American is an excellent newsletter
ontarioOT
I didn't notice it at the top - you're right, shes great!
spidermenz
IAmAnthonyStark
Only president for four years and that fucker got three picks. I still can’t believe it
afatrollofmyown
My fave part is they won't play by the rules they invented. When dems try to restore fairness "OMG YOU'RE BEING UNFAIR"
IJustMightBeTheDroidYouAreLookingFor
This about sums it up.
martineb72
It will never pass the Senate, and it would require a constitutional amendment to the 23rd(3/4 vote). Which would never happen.
qwerty1418
23rd won't stop statehood though, even if it should be addressed. luckily congress has total control over the 3 EC votes so theres solutions
qwerty1418
such as allocating the votes to the popular vote winner for example, which just requires a simple majority in congress.
Harbltron
They literally admitted they can't win a fair election lol, that's their argument for why gerrymandering and voter restrictions are needed
Harbltron
Imagine crying publicly about how unfair it is that you can't win without cheating
CraftyGiant
Republicans are straight up evil.
minipancho94
they're the vestiges of the confederacy and american nazi party. they tried to play the long con, but played their hand too early luckily.
slinkydust
For all the christian values, they sure don't act christian
CraftyGiant
4 in 10 evangelicals now practice "prosperity gospel" It has almost nothing to do with jesus' teachings.
CraftyGiant
https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/special/opinions/outlook/worst-ideas/prosperity-gospel.html
CraftyGiant
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prosperity_theology
CraftyGiant
https://www.christianitytoday.com/news/2018/july/prosperity-gospel-survey-churchgoers-prosper-tithe-blessing.html
Julia928
I'm all for DC as a state, but 1889 was during the Lincoln-Kennedy switcharoo century when the GOP was the liberal party, wasn't it?
stickywiggit
Yep!
CoarseAndSalty
It wasn't an overnight switch. There were a lot of stages in the conversion ending with the Southern Strategy that ended any liberal policy.
Jchamberlainhome
1/2 Switcheroo is not the best description. The republicans were a liberal party as founded. It was really as late as the 1950s...
Jchamberlainhome
2/2 when communism and the red scare really out conservatism into high gear.
viila
Yes, but current Reps proudly claim to be the party of Lincoln.
Julia928
Right, I only mean that the rapid statehood must have been a maneuver by liberals. Not something we can rub the modern GOP's noses in.
Legomaniac91
While supporting the ideologies of the nation that went to war with Lincoln.
ThatOtherMacAvoyWoman
That doesn’t make it true.
NotMyUsualOnlineName
And deny that the switch ever happened.
PerthAussieMike
Politics is always a dirty game
FiftyShadesOfCauliflower
Some countries are vastly more corrupt than others at the political level though. Some of them went so far as to legalize corporate bribes.
leodavinci1
That's because it's a struggle for power and people will do anything to rationalize its necessity. Particularly those immersed in it.
iwishihadone
Can I get a link to the article?
mrvladimir
Absolutely! I highly suggest subscribing. https://heathercoxrichardson.substack.com/p/april-22-2012
StarscreamAndHutch
North and South DC sounds good to me.
POGassultraboot
69. Nice
ChristopherHallett
And the statehood of Puerto Rico, too!
Dominiricanish
Puerto Rico isn’t the slam dunk people think it would be for democrats. It’s pretty conservative.
LegendaryGrumpyCat
California needs to be split into two or three. Northern, central, and so cal are so different in what we want. Source: live in so cal
TheSecondPiewackit
We'd have to do the same thing to Easter and Western WA as well. And now we have a slippery slope of just having counties.
TheobromineAddict
The "Big Lie" is an effective propaganda tool. Telling lies that are so outrageous, people can't believe you'd say it unless it was true.
pandro
or saying it so repeatedly that it starts to "seem" true just because you've heard it so often. the (supposedly russian?) influence 1/
pandro
on the 2016 election repeated and echoed doubts about Hilary until it seemed to be a universal opinion. 2/2
MLGsamantha
Wasn't that something Hitler came up with?
HieronymousFlex
It was a tactic he used, but he certainly didn't invent it.
Hackwitch
The tactic older than them, but the Goebbels quote is: "if you tell a lie often enough, then it becomes the truth"
Imaintainnothing
which itself was taken from Mein Kampf and made more succinct
TheobromineAddict
Hitler claimed the Jews used the "Big Lie" to blame Germany's loss in World War I on German general Erich Ludendorff. Goebbels perfected it.
TheobromineAddict
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_lie
fantabuloustimewaster
Point of order: while GWB lost the popular vote in 2000, he won the popular vote in 2004; both of his Supreme Court picks came after 2004.
LizardEnterprises
True. However, if the popular vote chose presidents, he never would've been up for re-election.
LizardEnterprises
The only reason he got to make those post-2004 choices was because he got into office without in 2000. The argument stands.
ontarioOT
He wouldn't have been an incumbent as he should have lost in 2000, save for intervention by Republicans in chadgate.
Hackwitch
Agreed, without 2000, he's not president on 9/11, which becomes the reason he wins in 04, he likely wouldn't have won 04 without it
Hackwitch
Though a footnote should probably be added to that effect for transparency's sake.
NarratesTheDarkerStory
I still disagree. They are still separate from term discussions. It is true he lost the pop vote. It's true he appointed scj's. I still ¹
NarratesTheDarkerStory
get the point being made. And including terms wouldn't clear it up. But, well, shit, in the middle of this I see the other side. Perhaps ²
CraftyGiant
now talk about the ballots found floating off the florida coast.
FiftyShadesOfCauliflower
And the purging of 100,000 democratic Floridian voters from the rolls (in 2000, but it also affected the 2004 election. Plus massive voter …
FiftyShadesOfCauliflower
suppression efforts, such as phone calls to voters with false polling information or claims that their registration was invalid. Now THAT...
FiftyShadesOfCauliflower
was a stolen election if there ever was one. The whole 2020 hysteria was just projection.Accusing Democrats of things they'd done themselves
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mrvladimir
Point of order recognized. Do you (or Imgur's commenting base) feel it detracts from the argument as a whole?
AdmiralAcbar
Yes. At least from that particular point.
NotaCPA
no, but he is correct and a correction should be placed.
double0simo
No but I do feel it is important to be factual and transparent...so that at least one side is. And show it’s ok to corrected. Good post tho
mrvladimir
Agreed. Dr. Cox Richardson has a great ability to find the deeper threads, and sometimes brevity beats precision.
TheatreStreet
No, Republicans are evil and Democrats are self-serving.
stickywiggit
Right? Or Democrats are evil and Republicans are realistic. It's always simple. Right and Wrong. Compounding reactionary stupidity.
TheatreStreet
Regardless of political affiliation current politicians and leaders are total shit.
LuncheonsAndDragons
While we're at it, I don't know how much it's appropriate to link politicians' actions today to their parties' actions over a century ago.
LuncheonsAndDragons
I won't argue that they aren't connected through consequence, but that doesn't necessitate a persistent link through motive across time.
LuncheonsAndDragons
See also the GOP claims that it was the Democrats that supported slavery - in the 1800s. Then again, they should judge themselves likewise.
NarratesTheDarkerStory
Kinda like how my dad throws "Lincoln is the greatest and he's a repub!" Well dad, there are those that might refer to slavery abolishment ¹
tcc3
Yes. I wish we would stop using the popular vote any sort of "proof" of Republican malfeasance
tcc3
Thats not how our system works, and pretending like it matters just sounds like whining
tcc3
The EC is a problem, as is the undemocratic results of our system. Lets change the system instead if pretending it means something it doesnt
admiralcrackbar
Talking about the popular vote is literally pointing out that the system is undemocratic and needs to change.
merbaby
I also had this point and, to some extent, yes. Facts matter, big and small, and W didn't appoint any Justices in his first term.
merbaby
It's a relatively minor part of the overall argument, but any error weakens the whole.
Mithelen
If he did not have a first term he would not have had a second so I think it like half counts?
QT3pt141592653
Also, had the opportunity presented itself in his first term, would he have not filled that seat?
Bauza51
Seconded. Perhaps a footnote
NarratesTheDarkerStory
I feel the argument is stating GWB's lower pop vote as a general statement. He has a lower pop vote. He appointed SCJ's. Equally factual....
Higure
Agreed. There is no need to lie or twist the truth to make republicans look bad, and doing so only hurts your message.
KaraokeLemur
Agreed. But it's neither lie nor twisting of truth if you make an honest mistake which I think this was especially since they recognised >