Aug 17, 2022 5:33 PM
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Chickenbuttholeremover
Boomers...
NomadUniverse
On the other hand he could have all those things and more. Grifters are rife.
noelco
Note: Those who play instruments, sing, sell art...etc.. are not panhandlers. They work for their money....just not in a concert hall.
CorwinMacGregor
aye, and the term for it is "busking"
EatPieLander
Remind me of time in college: working registration support. Vet I knew address "My car". Admin had prob. I sed just put down where he parks.
n0n53n53
Also some of the people panhandling around stores walk to their luxury vehicles and go home after getting paid cash, tax free
billyrayvirus
Have you tried not being poor?
malicart
Memes is the plural form of meme, which this isn't anyway.
ArmedandOverclocked
i generally dont give to pan handlers as many turn out to not actually be homeless. there is one dude that sells "art" & water/soda. I 1/
dont mind giving to him, because i can respect the genuine effort. 2/2
TheePerfectComment
If you're homeless, just by a house.
CannaFreak
Or go home
TheS4ndm4n
Or have your parents buy you one.
PaolaSandiego
Rich Parentson, professional fund baby https://youtube.com/shorts/qeNmNpVnBZ4?feature=share
Just stop being poor, duh...
BlackAssMamaWhiteAssDaddy
dazergolf
or eat cake if you can´t have bread, right? right?
RevengeIsIceCream
or at least eat crudité.
I understood that reference =) vegetables, legumes, gemüse, 野菜 should be put up this f***** A** till he develops some common sense
Dailywitchery
And a shower and clothes.
afatrollofmyown
Finding a kitchen is the hardest part. Storing food, cooking, etc.
Bhargo
home addresses are also usually required for prescriptions and doctor appointments, so no psychiatric help for those that need it either
peterm658
Fascinating Tom Hanks movie “The Terminal” (2004) illustrates this perfectly.
KirbyUOR
I love when he figured out the quarters
amb1021
Or clean clothes or a place to shower.
Sinasohn
He probably also needs a shower and has no way to take one. Maybe some clean clothes while he's at it, but laundromats require money.
TheAccursedHamster
The system is designed to keep the homeless down, and then punish them for it. It's disgusting.
Phoenix0rion
I've never had a vehicle as a requirement unless delivery. Transportation? Yeah, but that can mean anything, never specified a vehicle.
EmanNiemThcin
I won't lie to you @OP, we might have different understandings of what can be considered awesome.
PectorialMuscles
Awesome is not a positive word all the time. It's definition is neutral. Something that inspires awe is awesome, whether good or bad.
octopusrpg
WOW, you won't believe these 10 AWESOME TRICKS for EXPLOITING WORKERS by maintaining a precarious proximity to a VULNERABLE UNDERCLASS!
SteelKnight
To be fair awesome doesn't necessarily need to mean good, it's just the common usage, the guy's mother's ignorance was awesome
It was also egregious
retrostone21
That which instills awe in the viewer. Unattainable expectations of the most marginalized to be able to improve their lives, awesome.
rbudrick
Confused cuz I don't see the word awesome anywhere in the post.
3lda002
Tags
None were showing in the app for me.
Lalael
Oh thank you! I was so confused, but then, I rarely look at the tags.
CorgisButtsDriveMeNuts
Reminds me to old Tom Hanks movie where he plays a russian immigrant basically living on the airport in order to get a job.
cybercry
At my 7-11 I was able to hire a homeless person, but he did have an ID and social security card
magister333350
Don't forget a good credit history or high enough score. Bad spot in life? Bankruptcy? Fucked on some jobs now. Last place required 680+.
ipoopedmybum
Why would a vehicle be a requirement.
245SE
Once upon a time I used a treatment center as my address. I worked for the guy 7 years before it came up. He said he knew.
But didn't want to make me feel uncomfortable. Went on to see 2 other guys fresh out of treatment get their starts with him.
akdude
that man honestly sounds like a modern hero. good on both him and you for making the world a better place.
horsedickdotjpg
Right on you badass human. Thanks for sharing and Godspeed
elganif
That's a boss who wanted to help you succeed. I bet he was super proud of you for making a better life out of that opportunity.
WisconsinHome
Good guy!!
yifin
That guy sounds cool.
Yeah, he was alright. Had skeletons of his own naturally.
Everyone has at least one.
PotatOSTheCreator
And milk makes em stronger, calcium or somethin
Ryanator50
What do you mean you can't just walk in and start stocking shelves right away?
CraftyGiant
This is part one of a longer series of posts, where's the rest?
knotch2
hahahahaha People are so stupid.
IsolatedAsshole
"They buy fancy smartphones instead of saving for a house!!" Yeah well try getting a job without a smartphone these days.
Many jobs it is required to have a smartphone to be able to even apply, cuz they make you use an app
Higure
I have a smartphone, and I know how to use it, but fuck the trend that people who don't become second rate humans.
BlueDsc
Oh dang, I knew I shouldn't have bought several thousand phones instead of a house.
And clearly my investment in thousands of avocados was doomed to fail given how fast they rot!
channelranger
yeah and a cheap smartphone is less than 100$ these days
So them having a phone is not what's keeping them on the streets. They just want a reason being homeless is their fault.
iguessihaveto
Bingo. I swear these assholes don't understand that it's not STUFF. Stuff is easy to get, often without paying retail. Most of my furniture
Was trashpicked and it's still decent. My microwave was free for helping someone move. Most phone contracts include a phone periodically.
You can get designer jeans from thrift stores and hand me downs. But if you want an apartment, and you want heat and lights and food, you
Nunyajonesinc
Don't forget valid ID, social security card, vetc, etc
Travtwohander
Just had to replace my SS card, started a new job for the first time in 17 years and needed it. They need to make it easier
froggy2therescue12
Replacing my ss was easy for me. Just to fill out a form online for Minnesota. Why the hell does it need to be more complicated than that?
IHaveGreatKittenRecipes
In NV to change my name, I had to get a new SS card to change my license, and a new license to get the SS card. Went around that loop a bit.
Yea I hired a homeless person , but he had an ID and social security card
Copperbrat
Got into a debate here on imgur about how difficult it was to get those things. After losing all of my ids, trying to replace them was >
such a nightmare. He said "It's simple. All you need is a valid ID, birth certificate, passport, paper bill." to get a valid ID. Then he >
got super annoyed when I told him I had none of those things. His response was "How stupid do you have to be to not have those things?". >
When they get lost or stolen, yes it sucks. I had expired versions, but those aren't "valid". Nightmare.
We lost absolutely everything in a fire when I was in my early 20's. Just getting a copy of my birth certificate after that was a nightmare
SomeDetroitGuy
You also need an ID and a social security card. If you've lost them, they're a pain in the ass to get.
blisfulloblivion
Replacements also cost money.
stonedlikeicheckedoutmedusa
A lot of times you also need proof of car insurance and…you know… the car too
FairyKingOberon
And you need one to get the other most times so it's a ridiculous fucking Ourobureaus
anjohnstudio
You need a phone number and email address
Abraxaz777
Lots of places won’t deliver items to P.O. Boxes either.
rhmrcScifiBandit
You also need clean clothes, a place to clean the clothing, a shower etc
PajamaStripes
I had to wait EIGHT MONTHS for my goddamn birth certificate!!!
MyCommentsUsuallyHaveTypos
Living in Ohio, born in Florida. Can confirm and this was PRE-9/11.
secretdpp
I turned 18 homeless and it has been a monumental climb. I'm in my 30s and still barely a foot out of the gutter. It is damned hard to get
Out or even get most people to understand how much work it takes to stay afloat that close to the bottom. Then covid just wrecked shit worse
BluePeaSoup
I’ve never needed ss card… just a number.
elevengoldfish
And you need an address to have replacements sent to.
LurkerOfDarkness
Why don't they just use the citys offices for this, they're there to service citizens, that includes homeless.
Nanashi550
Thankfully that's what France does. Homeless people can ask the city to get their mail for them.
soccerninja814
Because there are those who don't think that the homeless are people.
Don't ask them.
Athanar
Unfortunately, in a lot of places (red states) they make the rules.
fraxinusoleaceae
Wait some places require the actual card? ... Fuck.
therdin
I have never used my ssc for employment. I use my passport as it counts as both forms of ID. Haven't had my ssc for 22 years
Oh thank god yeah same.
I think they're supposed to take copies to file with your W4.
jamesx
Plus if you lost those you probably lost collaborative evidence like Birth Certificate and such as well.
gunnexx
Wait... your government doesnt have that shit on file?
Many smaller gov'ts have them on file. Birth Cert/driver's license is a state document. Social security card is federal. You need the state
Gov't doc to replace the fed docs and vice versa. If you lose them all no one cares who you are anymore. Until you have proof you're no one.
Fyi, this is why requiring ID to vote is discriminatory. People who are less secure in housing are more likely to lose this stuff. Hard to
RooGryphon
lost all that may as well be dead to the government... congrats on living completely free
Nah if you want help you need proof. If they wanna oppress or hurt you they don't need much they know who you are.
mouseasw
Completely free meaning no employment, no government aid, no healthcare, constant harassment by police...
hows that any different then being homeless. if the natives lived fine long before america was america so can i
kyerme
The problem is there's really nowhere "free" anymore. If you aren't paying money to be somewhere, good odds you're trespassing. Source:am HL
Baltzdelirium
Yeah... Depends where you are in Palo Alto the pan handlers made roughly $300/day and drove Mercedes. One dude was a beast on banjo though
Crawmak
Well, if he was playing banjo, he was a busker, not a panhandler. That there is well-earned money through providing entertainment!
Haha he was there were two others that just chilled though.
AGrammeIsBetterThanADamn
They were protection
Ahaha that'd have been quality to see. Palo Alto is a lot of really rich people like 8-10 years ago 6 figure income qualified for section 8.
Outliers do not represent the whole of a poplulation.
Which is the "depends where you live" sorry i didn't communicate my meaning well enough
Even in high income areas that notion is still an outlier, and probably not consistently repeatable over time.
It's a fairly common haul pretty much anywhere in America there's substantial traffic. A $5 average gift from 10 ppl/hr for 6 hours is $300.
Was for them, but again I knew others in different cities who definitely struggled how described here. I'm not saying don't help
Interesting that this is the same excuse/reason that fuckers use to say you shouldn't help poor people.
jabike2424
You don’t need a home address, you need a mailing address. You don’t need a car, you need access to reliable transportation.
HikariShade
Depends on the state/employer.
More employer, but yes I agree.
req4adream99
And the practical difference between those things is what?
istealkillls
Home address and mailing address is way different..PO boxes are like 5 bucks a month. A car payment is $$$ where a bus ticket is $
ZackWester
oh the amount of employer that goes I need a home adress your registerd on. a PO box is not approved on its own.
captainsnopes
If you are homeless, you can use the address of a family, Friend, shelter or P.O.Box. that’s where w2 and other tax docs will be sent
Userlivewire
If you are homeless those resources have likely been closed off to you.
a LOT of homeless people are homeless because the foster care program kicks them out at 18. A LOT have no family or friends with addresses.
AndTheArghnauts
And public transportation in America is famously both ubiquitous and reliable...
Kerdnerl
I mean if they're homeless they can setup near their job and just walk there, save up their first couple paychecks for a decent bike
Go set up a tent at some convenient place in a city and just see how long it takes to get evicted.
aThingWithTheStufAndTheJunk
P.O. Boxes are free if you're homeless but you need a valid ID to get one, which requires an address...
Ye, I loaded up the USPS site out of curiosity.
Public transportation isn't even available/reliable in many US cities. Moved from DC area with lots to out west where im lucky to have bus
Ridiculous how lousy the public transport is throufh much of the country. Boise for all its growth actually reduced their bus route!!!
No subway, no train, greyhound closed. The local bus system reduced to about 4 stops and crappy times. Car is a MUST out west, its frustrati
Chickenbuttholeremover
Boomers...
NomadUniverse
On the other hand he could have all those things and more. Grifters are rife.
noelco
Note: Those who play instruments, sing, sell art...etc.. are not panhandlers. They work for their money....just not in a concert hall.
CorwinMacGregor
aye, and the term for it is "busking"
EatPieLander
Remind me of time in college: working registration support. Vet I knew address "My car". Admin had prob. I sed just put down where he parks.
n0n53n53
Also some of the people panhandling around stores walk to their luxury vehicles and go home after getting paid cash, tax free
billyrayvirus
Have you tried not being poor?
malicart
Memes is the plural form of meme, which this isn't anyway.
ArmedandOverclocked
i generally dont give to pan handlers as many turn out to not actually be homeless. there is one dude that sells "art" & water/soda. I 1/
ArmedandOverclocked
dont mind giving to him, because i can respect the genuine effort. 2/2
TheePerfectComment
If you're homeless, just by a house.
CannaFreak
Or go home
TheS4ndm4n
Or have your parents buy you one.
PaolaSandiego
Rich Parentson, professional fund baby https://youtube.com/shorts/qeNmNpVnBZ4?feature=share
malicart
Just stop being poor, duh...
BlackAssMamaWhiteAssDaddy
dazergolf
or eat cake if you can´t have bread, right? right?
RevengeIsIceCream
or at least eat crudité.
dazergolf
I understood that reference =) vegetables, legumes, gemüse, 野菜 should be put up this f***** A** till he develops some common sense
Dailywitchery
And a shower and clothes.
afatrollofmyown
Finding a kitchen is the hardest part. Storing food, cooking, etc.
Bhargo
home addresses are also usually required for prescriptions and doctor appointments, so no psychiatric help for those that need it either
peterm658
Fascinating Tom Hanks movie “The Terminal” (2004) illustrates this perfectly.
KirbyUOR
I love when he figured out the quarters
amb1021
Or clean clothes or a place to shower.
Sinasohn
He probably also needs a shower and has no way to take one. Maybe some clean clothes while he's at it, but laundromats require money.
TheAccursedHamster
The system is designed to keep the homeless down, and then punish them for it. It's disgusting.
Phoenix0rion
I've never had a vehicle as a requirement unless delivery. Transportation? Yeah, but that can mean anything, never specified a vehicle.
EmanNiemThcin
I won't lie to you @OP, we might have different understandings of what can be considered awesome.
PectorialMuscles
Awesome is not a positive word all the time. It's definition is neutral. Something that inspires awe is awesome, whether good or bad.
octopusrpg
WOW, you won't believe these 10 AWESOME TRICKS for EXPLOITING WORKERS by maintaining a precarious proximity to a VULNERABLE UNDERCLASS!
SteelKnight
To be fair awesome doesn't necessarily need to mean good, it's just the common usage, the guy's mother's ignorance was awesome
SteelKnight
It was also egregious
retrostone21
That which instills awe in the viewer. Unattainable expectations of the most marginalized to be able to improve their lives, awesome.
rbudrick
Confused cuz I don't see the word awesome anywhere in the post.
3lda002
Tags
rbudrick
None were showing in the app for me.
Lalael
Oh thank you! I was so confused, but then, I rarely look at the tags.
CorgisButtsDriveMeNuts
Reminds me to old Tom Hanks movie where he plays a russian immigrant basically living on the airport in order to get a job.
cybercry
At my 7-11 I was able to hire a homeless person, but he did have an ID and social security card
magister333350
Don't forget a good credit history or high enough score. Bad spot in life? Bankruptcy? Fucked on some jobs now. Last place required 680+.
ipoopedmybum
Why would a vehicle be a requirement.
245SE
Once upon a time I used a treatment center as my address. I worked for the guy 7 years before it came up. He said he knew.
245SE
But didn't want to make me feel uncomfortable. Went on to see 2 other guys fresh out of treatment get their starts with him.
akdude
that man honestly sounds like a modern hero. good on both him and you for making the world a better place.
horsedickdotjpg
Right on you badass human. Thanks for sharing and Godspeed
elganif
That's a boss who wanted to help you succeed. I bet he was super proud of you for making a better life out of that opportunity.
WisconsinHome
Good guy!!
yifin
That guy sounds cool.
245SE
Yeah, he was alright. Had skeletons of his own naturally.
yifin
Everyone has at least one.
PotatOSTheCreator
And milk makes em stronger, calcium or somethin
Ryanator50
What do you mean you can't just walk in and start stocking shelves right away?
CraftyGiant
This is part one of a longer series of posts, where's the rest?
knotch2
hahahahaha People are so stupid.
IsolatedAsshole
"They buy fancy smartphones instead of saving for a house!!" Yeah well try getting a job without a smartphone these days.
KirbyUOR
Many jobs it is required to have a smartphone to be able to even apply, cuz they make you use an app
Higure
I have a smartphone, and I know how to use it, but fuck the trend that people who don't become second rate humans.
BlueDsc
Oh dang, I knew I shouldn't have bought several thousand phones instead of a house.
IsolatedAsshole
And clearly my investment in thousands of avocados was doomed to fail given how fast they rot!
channelranger
yeah and a cheap smartphone is less than 100$ these days
channelranger
So them having a phone is not what's keeping them on the streets. They just want a reason being homeless is their fault.
iguessihaveto
Bingo. I swear these assholes don't understand that it's not STUFF. Stuff is easy to get, often without paying retail. Most of my furniture
iguessihaveto
Was trashpicked and it's still decent. My microwave was free for helping someone move. Most phone contracts include a phone periodically.
iguessihaveto
You can get designer jeans from thrift stores and hand me downs. But if you want an apartment, and you want heat and lights and food, you
Nunyajonesinc
Don't forget valid ID, social security card, vetc, etc
Travtwohander
Just had to replace my SS card, started a new job for the first time in 17 years and needed it. They need to make it easier
froggy2therescue12
Replacing my ss was easy for me. Just to fill out a form online for Minnesota. Why the hell does it need to be more complicated than that?
IHaveGreatKittenRecipes
In NV to change my name, I had to get a new SS card to change my license, and a new license to get the SS card. Went around that loop a bit.
cybercry
Yea I hired a homeless person , but he had an ID and social security card
Copperbrat
Got into a debate here on imgur about how difficult it was to get those things. After losing all of my ids, trying to replace them was >
Copperbrat
such a nightmare. He said "It's simple. All you need is a valid ID, birth certificate, passport, paper bill." to get a valid ID. Then he >
Copperbrat
got super annoyed when I told him I had none of those things. His response was "How stupid do you have to be to not have those things?". >
Copperbrat
When they get lost or stolen, yes it sucks. I had expired versions, but those aren't "valid". Nightmare.
Nunyajonesinc
We lost absolutely everything in a fire when I was in my early 20's. Just getting a copy of my birth certificate after that was a nightmare
SomeDetroitGuy
You also need an ID and a social security card. If you've lost them, they're a pain in the ass to get.
blisfulloblivion
Replacements also cost money.
stonedlikeicheckedoutmedusa
A lot of times you also need proof of car insurance and…you know… the car too
FairyKingOberon
And you need one to get the other most times so it's a ridiculous fucking Ourobureaus
anjohnstudio
You need a phone number and email address
Abraxaz777
Lots of places won’t deliver items to P.O. Boxes either.
rhmrcScifiBandit
You also need clean clothes, a place to clean the clothing, a shower etc
PajamaStripes
I had to wait EIGHT MONTHS for my goddamn birth certificate!!!
MyCommentsUsuallyHaveTypos
Living in Ohio, born in Florida. Can confirm and this was PRE-9/11.
secretdpp
I turned 18 homeless and it has been a monumental climb. I'm in my 30s and still barely a foot out of the gutter. It is damned hard to get
secretdpp
Out or even get most people to understand how much work it takes to stay afloat that close to the bottom. Then covid just wrecked shit worse
BluePeaSoup
I’ve never needed ss card… just a number.
elevengoldfish
And you need an address to have replacements sent to.
LurkerOfDarkness
Why don't they just use the citys offices for this, they're there to service citizens, that includes homeless.
Nanashi550
Thankfully that's what France does. Homeless people can ask the city to get their mail for them.
soccerninja814
Because there are those who don't think that the homeless are people.
LurkerOfDarkness
Don't ask them.
Athanar
Unfortunately, in a lot of places (red states) they make the rules.
fraxinusoleaceae
Wait some places require the actual card? ... Fuck.
therdin
I have never used my ssc for employment. I use my passport as it counts as both forms of ID. Haven't had my ssc for 22 years
fraxinusoleaceae
Oh thank god yeah same.
iguessihaveto
I think they're supposed to take copies to file with your W4.
jamesx
Plus if you lost those you probably lost collaborative evidence like Birth Certificate and such as well.
gunnexx
Wait... your government doesnt have that shit on file?
iguessihaveto
Many smaller gov'ts have them on file. Birth Cert/driver's license is a state document. Social security card is federal. You need the state
iguessihaveto
Gov't doc to replace the fed docs and vice versa. If you lose them all no one cares who you are anymore. Until you have proof you're no one.
iguessihaveto
Fyi, this is why requiring ID to vote is discriminatory. People who are less secure in housing are more likely to lose this stuff. Hard to
RooGryphon
lost all that may as well be dead to the government... congrats on living completely free
channelranger
Nah if you want help you need proof. If they wanna oppress or hurt you they don't need much they know who you are.
mouseasw
Completely free meaning no employment, no government aid, no healthcare, constant harassment by police...
RooGryphon
hows that any different then being homeless. if the natives lived fine long before america was america so can i
kyerme
The problem is there's really nowhere "free" anymore. If you aren't paying money to be somewhere, good odds you're trespassing. Source:am HL
Baltzdelirium
Yeah... Depends where you are in Palo Alto the pan handlers made roughly $300/day and drove Mercedes. One dude was a beast on banjo though
Crawmak
Well, if he was playing banjo, he was a busker, not a panhandler. That there is well-earned money through providing entertainment!
Baltzdelirium
Haha he was there were two others that just chilled though.
AGrammeIsBetterThanADamn
They were protection
Baltzdelirium
Ahaha that'd have been quality to see. Palo Alto is a lot of really rich people like 8-10 years ago 6 figure income qualified for section 8.
malicart
Outliers do not represent the whole of a poplulation.
Baltzdelirium
Which is the "depends where you live" sorry i didn't communicate my meaning well enough
malicart
Even in high income areas that notion is still an outlier, and probably not consistently repeatable over time.
AGrammeIsBetterThanADamn
It's a fairly common haul pretty much anywhere in America there's substantial traffic. A $5 average gift from 10 ppl/hr for 6 hours is $300.
Baltzdelirium
Was for them, but again I knew others in different cities who definitely struggled how described here. I'm not saying don't help
malicart
Interesting that this is the same excuse/reason that fuckers use to say you shouldn't help poor people.
jabike2424
You don’t need a home address, you need a mailing address. You don’t need a car, you need access to reliable transportation.
HikariShade
Depends on the state/employer.
jabike2424
More employer, but yes I agree.
req4adream99
And the practical difference between those things is what?
istealkillls
Home address and mailing address is way different..PO boxes are like 5 bucks a month. A car payment is $$$ where a bus ticket is $
ZackWester
oh the amount of employer that goes I need a home adress your registerd on. a PO box is not approved on its own.
captainsnopes
If you are homeless, you can use the address of a family, Friend, shelter or P.O.Box. that’s where w2 and other tax docs will be sent
Userlivewire
If you are homeless those resources have likely been closed off to you.
n0n53n53
a LOT of homeless people are homeless because the foster care program kicks them out at 18. A LOT have no family or friends with addresses.
istealkillls
Home address and mailing address is way different..PO boxes are like 5 bucks a month. A car payment is $$$ where a bus ticket is $
AndTheArghnauts
And public transportation in America is famously both ubiquitous and reliable...
Kerdnerl
I mean if they're homeless they can setup near their job and just walk there, save up their first couple paychecks for a decent bike
AndTheArghnauts
Go set up a tent at some convenient place in a city and just see how long it takes to get evicted.
aThingWithTheStufAndTheJunk
P.O. Boxes are free if you're homeless but you need a valid ID to get one, which requires an address...
BlueDsc
Ye, I loaded up the USPS site out of curiosity.
blisfulloblivion
Public transportation isn't even available/reliable in many US cities. Moved from DC area with lots to out west where im lucky to have bus
blisfulloblivion
Ridiculous how lousy the public transport is throufh much of the country. Boise for all its growth actually reduced their bus route!!!
blisfulloblivion
No subway, no train, greyhound closed. The local bus system reduced to about 4 stops and crappy times. Car is a MUST out west, its frustrati