Apr 13, 2022 8:00 PM
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MrSpankalot
The moon reflects 1/400.000 of uv from the sun back to earth. Is that enough uv to kill a vampire? I think he would get mild sunburn.
MamaCharLee
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Regeny
Perscheid is great. Sadly he died last year so no more stuff.
elijajaja
Fuck photons
VictusVonGuyver
Light harming vampires are from modern film lore. It's not in any of the original books.
misterbil
this is some loony tunes physics... only works when he realizes what's going on :)
Imadethisaccounttopost
Why do old vampires need to be invited in? What is their obsession with counting? Both are old legends I never understood.
RummageSaleBubbler
It also reflects starlight; and the double reflection, bouncing first from the earth then moon. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earthshine
Othernate
If you can survive starlight, you can survive sunlight. It's simply a matter of degree...
Or however that quote goes.
Sunlight doesn't kill vampires, it merely weakens them and makes them vulnerable. They cannot use their powers, or regenerate in sunlight
Garlic doesn't hurt vampires, merely repels them. It over powers their senses so they cannot smell the quality of the blood.
C110PR
DIRECT SUNLIGHT
Mewmus
He had to wait until he learned that before the moonlight affected him?
houpbajoup
Wile E Coyote can walk on air until he looks down
True dat. Cartoon physics
Keibrina
Only direct sunlight harms Vampires.
So star light then, too?
HeySusMonater
This is subjective... There are key elements to the sun that is destroying the vampire, which likely are not being supressed or stopped
In any way, including intensity of the energy. So even the light from the moon is still sunlight.
ElbowDeepinaTinyOctopus
Seven heads, and each one a simpleton...
BioGoji1989
Flight of Dragons.
fireflowerfire
IIRC this only works with one clan, the Lasombra, because they're extra dark and spooky.
IrohsTeaCup
WoD Lore Represent!
yeh, played for years and used to narrate
Same, played for years. Is a LARP I used to attend. Nice to find your tribe of like minded folks.
StarkeRealm
IIRC, not automatic. By default it doesn't do much, but you can take a flaw where they'd get something like a sunburn from moonlight.
I forget. Thought it was their unique discipline Obtenebration that made them extra vulnerable to sunlight (and thus also moonlight).
Manumittance
Vampires don't interact with reflected light... that's why they aren't visible in mirrors
ColoniaCroisant
Isn't all light on earth reflected light? Because of the ozone layer?
elcee84
TypicallyVigo
Weird, I said almost exactly that to someone last week when they asked me about moons and vampires.....
Dasnekones
I like the story where mirrors don't reflect vampires because to them they are paths to other places and not solid walls.
It's the silver in mirrors that doesn't reflect them, a normal mirror would.
Enoan
but all sunlight is reflected, it is generated by the fusion deep in the core and bounces millions of times against all the different bits
of the sun until it finally worms its way out
macbi
That would just make us invisible to them...
Magjee
Henders89
We dont have vampires in africa =( because they bless the rains here.
Emulen
And telescopes uses mirror, so you know... Space vampires
Bacxaber
Wrong. It's because of silver in old mirrors. They'd show up on modern ones.
TheLeanWolf
Vampire re-integrates
Raz0rking
But then they would alsl be invisible to us..
pinatafarmer
Wouldn't we be invisible, or they would be blind? Cause that's what sight is?
Vampire re-disintegrates
They can still reflect direct light; its not reflected until after it interacts with them
lordofarda
So they would be very dim. Unless they are direct line of sight to the light source all light is reflected.
superheavydeathmetal
If they can reflect direct light, they can reflect direct light to the mirror, and we could see the reflection.
zubax
They used silver to make mirrors back in the days. Now we use aluminum. a millennial vampire would be visible in mirrors.
TyeDyeZombie
Millenials are killing the silver mirror industry.
Volimar
No, Bram Stoker made up the 'Vampires don't cast a reflection" thing and silver had nothing to do with it. It's a modern backsplanation.
Kyrorayne
Considering vampires don't exist, that's what all of it is.
GoodBrotherGrimm
True, but the mythology of vampires does exist, and silver was irrelevant to it up until Stoker.
OnlyPositiveFavourites
It's made up hokum. Both are fine ideas.
Nah.
maybeamonster
not sure if this man is ignoring that all vampire information is made up hokum, or if this vampire is throwing shade at human foolishness :/
Equinox13
I'm going to make garlic bread just in case.
TheRealDoomsong
It’s clearly a Vampire trying to throw us off the scent.
suckstoyourauntie
There are rules for things we made up. Like vampires, werewolves, money, economics...
GrumpyOldMillennial
I mean, it's as valid as any other cultural mythology. If we are gonna insist on accuracy with vikings or Egyptians, then vampires too.
What I meant or was alluding to is that, as a myth, there's no 'accuracy' it's just whatever story works or has been told a lot.
So, there is "accuracy" in that its consistent with the established mythology. It may not be accurate to science, but that's not the debate.
What does the vampire's generation have to do with the type of mirror they look at?
LazyBrownFox
No mirror. Millennial vampires usually look like drug addicts. But they can still smell, so it's a little different. Fugly vamps, man.
Croatoan45
Since the lore around vampires likes to say they are, like werewolves, allergic silver. Old mirrors were made of silver, thus no show in it.
SithElephant
Silver mirrors are today very, very rare.
However, you can see yourself just fine in a glass surface with no silver, so...
MrRandom314159
Why is silver used to dispel monsters so much?
vanderzee
in alchemy and witchcraft silver symbolizes simbolizes the moon (night and darkness) and by association hurts creatures of darkness
Reddot99
Not as rare as you might think! (They use an exceptionally thin layer, but silver is still common in higher quality mirrors.)
DesignatedDrinker
But if a vampire is alive today, it doesn't matter its generation.
chikichikiyei
So hipster vampires would not be able to look themselves in the mirror?
ath1337e
This is very dumb. It's like saying I would die if a pebble falls on me because a 500 lb boulder would definitely kill me.
QuartzPoker
A bullet is just a man-made pebble
That's not even remotely similar.
You are assuming that the amount of sunlight and it's projected energy is the cause of the death, when it could just be sunlight regardless
Of any amount of energy, even reflected off a surface like the moon.
GodEmperorOfImgur
But, this means vampires are only hurt by sunlight if they believe it.
How so?
It was not harmed by the light until it was made aware of it.
JustSomeRandomGuyOnTheInternet
That is in no way the same as this.
Um... yeah it is. The moon's light is 400,000 times weaker than the sun. It's silly to infer that moonlight will kill a vampire like the sun
Kbantar
And it doesn't reflect the spectrum uniformally. Lower wavelengths are reflected more than higher like UV.
GH05TY
Exponentially wrong, I'm afraid. ...the energy of a full moon on 1 square meter is actually over 2 million times weaker than sunlight.
The light of a full moon is also 8,000 times weaker than a typical 60-watt incandescent lightbulb.
CaptainSomebody
I'm with you. A warm plate and a fire both give off heat, only one hurts. Maybe vamps need a certain level of light to burn.
swanglemydangle
It's supposedly the purity of sunlight that destroys them.
Wolvenlight
Ah, that's it then. Moonlight is dirty. Dirty, dirty moonlight.
TheThoughtsOfAFatGirl
MY PENIS ISN'T A MICROPENIS BECAUSE IT DERIVES FROM A MASSIVE PERSON WHO IS A 6 FOOT DICK! THEREFORE IT PACKS THE WHALLOP OF LARGE DICKMAN
OneShot510
Are these truly the thoughts of a fat girl? This has been very enlightening.
are you saying you know exactly how much uv radiation is needed to kill a vampire? we are speaking of a mythological creature.
1 sq meter of complete shade, illuminated by a clear midday sky, receives about 200,000 times more energy than it does from a full moon.
ok? also not my point.
MrSpankalot
The moon reflects 1/400.000 of uv from the sun back to earth. Is that enough uv to kill a vampire? I think he would get mild sunburn.
MamaCharLee
Shameless plug for anyone interested in new cringey vampire smut , available in ebook only since paper is skyrocketing, $6.66/Barnes & Noble
Regeny
Perscheid is great. Sadly he died last year so no more stuff.
elijajaja
Fuck photons
VictusVonGuyver
Light harming vampires are from modern film lore. It's not in any of the original books.
misterbil
this is some loony tunes physics... only works when he realizes what's going on :)
Imadethisaccounttopost
Why do old vampires need to be invited in? What is their obsession with counting? Both are old legends I never understood.
RummageSaleBubbler
It also reflects starlight; and the double reflection, bouncing first from the earth then moon. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earthshine
Othernate
If you can survive starlight, you can survive sunlight. It's simply a matter of degree...
Othernate
Or however that quote goes.
Imadethisaccounttopost
Sunlight doesn't kill vampires, it merely weakens them and makes them vulnerable. They cannot use their powers, or regenerate in sunlight
Imadethisaccounttopost
Garlic doesn't hurt vampires, merely repels them. It over powers their senses so they cannot smell the quality of the blood.
C110PR
DIRECT SUNLIGHT
Mewmus
He had to wait until he learned that before the moonlight affected him?
houpbajoup
Wile E Coyote can walk on air until he looks down
Mewmus
True dat. Cartoon physics
Keibrina
Only direct sunlight harms Vampires.
elijajaja
So star light then, too?
HeySusMonater
This is subjective... There are key elements to the sun that is destroying the vampire, which likely are not being supressed or stopped
HeySusMonater
In any way, including intensity of the energy. So even the light from the moon is still sunlight.
ElbowDeepinaTinyOctopus
Seven heads, and each one a simpleton...
BioGoji1989
Flight of Dragons.
ElbowDeepinaTinyOctopus
fireflowerfire
IIRC this only works with one clan, the Lasombra, because they're extra dark and spooky.
IrohsTeaCup
WoD Lore Represent!
fireflowerfire
yeh, played for years and used to narrate
IrohsTeaCup
Same, played for years. Is a LARP I used to attend. Nice to find your tribe of like minded folks.
StarkeRealm
IIRC, not automatic. By default it doesn't do much, but you can take a flaw where they'd get something like a sunburn from moonlight.
fireflowerfire
I forget. Thought it was their unique discipline Obtenebration that made them extra vulnerable to sunlight (and thus also moonlight).
Manumittance
Vampires don't interact with reflected light... that's why they aren't visible in mirrors
ColoniaCroisant
Isn't all light on earth reflected light? Because of the ozone layer?
elcee84
TypicallyVigo
Weird, I said almost exactly that to someone last week when they asked me about moons and vampires.....
Dasnekones
I like the story where mirrors don't reflect vampires because to them they are paths to other places and not solid walls.
Imadethisaccounttopost
It's the silver in mirrors that doesn't reflect them, a normal mirror would.
Enoan
but all sunlight is reflected, it is generated by the fusion deep in the core and bounces millions of times against all the different bits
Enoan
of the sun until it finally worms its way out
macbi
That would just make us invisible to them...
Magjee
Henders89
We dont have vampires in africa =( because they bless the rains here.
Emulen
And telescopes uses mirror, so you know... Space vampires
Bacxaber
Wrong. It's because of silver in old mirrors. They'd show up on modern ones.
TheLeanWolf
Vampire re-integrates
Raz0rking
But then they would alsl be invisible to us..
pinatafarmer
Wouldn't we be invisible, or they would be blind? Cause that's what sight is?
TheLeanWolf
Vampire re-disintegrates
Manumittance
They can still reflect direct light; its not reflected until after it interacts with them
lordofarda
So they would be very dim. Unless they are direct line of sight to the light source all light is reflected.
superheavydeathmetal
If they can reflect direct light, they can reflect direct light to the mirror, and we could see the reflection.
zubax
They used silver to make mirrors back in the days. Now we use aluminum. a millennial vampire would be visible in mirrors.
TyeDyeZombie
Millenials are killing the silver mirror industry.
Volimar
No, Bram Stoker made up the 'Vampires don't cast a reflection" thing and silver had nothing to do with it. It's a modern backsplanation.
Kyrorayne
Considering vampires don't exist, that's what all of it is.
GoodBrotherGrimm
True, but the mythology of vampires does exist, and silver was irrelevant to it up until Stoker.
OnlyPositiveFavourites
It's made up hokum. Both are fine ideas.
Bacxaber
Nah.
maybeamonster
not sure if this man is ignoring that all vampire information is made up hokum, or if this vampire is throwing shade at human foolishness :/
Equinox13
I'm going to make garlic bread just in case.
TheRealDoomsong
It’s clearly a Vampire trying to throw us off the scent.
suckstoyourauntie
There are rules for things we made up. Like vampires, werewolves, money, economics...
GrumpyOldMillennial
I mean, it's as valid as any other cultural mythology. If we are gonna insist on accuracy with vikings or Egyptians, then vampires too.
OnlyPositiveFavourites
What I meant or was alluding to is that, as a myth, there's no 'accuracy' it's just whatever story works or has been told a lot.
GrumpyOldMillennial
So, there is "accuracy" in that its consistent with the established mythology. It may not be accurate to science, but that's not the debate.
Manumittance
What does the vampire's generation have to do with the type of mirror they look at?
LazyBrownFox
No mirror. Millennial vampires usually look like drug addicts. But they can still smell, so it's a little different. Fugly vamps, man.
Croatoan45
Since the lore around vampires likes to say they are, like werewolves, allergic silver. Old mirrors were made of silver, thus no show in it.
SithElephant
Silver mirrors are today very, very rare.
SithElephant
However, you can see yourself just fine in a glass surface with no silver, so...
MrRandom314159
Why is silver used to dispel monsters so much?
vanderzee
in alchemy and witchcraft silver symbolizes simbolizes the moon (night and darkness) and by association hurts creatures of darkness
Reddot99
Not as rare as you might think! (They use an exceptionally thin layer, but silver is still common in higher quality mirrors.)
DesignatedDrinker
But if a vampire is alive today, it doesn't matter its generation.
chikichikiyei
So hipster vampires would not be able to look themselves in the mirror?
ath1337e
This is very dumb. It's like saying I would die if a pebble falls on me because a 500 lb boulder would definitely kill me.
QuartzPoker
A bullet is just a man-made pebble
BioGoji1989
That's not even remotely similar.
HeySusMonater
You are assuming that the amount of sunlight and it's projected energy is the cause of the death, when it could just be sunlight regardless
HeySusMonater
Of any amount of energy, even reflected off a surface like the moon.
GodEmperorOfImgur
But, this means vampires are only hurt by sunlight if they believe it.
HeySusMonater
How so?
GodEmperorOfImgur
It was not harmed by the light until it was made aware of it.
JustSomeRandomGuyOnTheInternet
That is in no way the same as this.
ath1337e
Um... yeah it is. The moon's light is 400,000 times weaker than the sun. It's silly to infer that moonlight will kill a vampire like the sun
Kbantar
And it doesn't reflect the spectrum uniformally. Lower wavelengths are reflected more than higher like UV.
GH05TY
Exponentially wrong, I'm afraid. ...the energy of a full moon on 1 square meter is actually over 2 million times weaker than sunlight.
GH05TY
The light of a full moon is also 8,000 times weaker than a typical 60-watt incandescent lightbulb.
CaptainSomebody
I'm with you. A warm plate and a fire both give off heat, only one hurts. Maybe vamps need a certain level of light to burn.
swanglemydangle
It's supposedly the purity of sunlight that destroys them.
Wolvenlight
Ah, that's it then. Moonlight is dirty. Dirty, dirty moonlight.
TheThoughtsOfAFatGirl
MY PENIS ISN'T A MICROPENIS BECAUSE IT DERIVES FROM A MASSIVE PERSON WHO IS A 6 FOOT DICK! THEREFORE IT PACKS THE WHALLOP OF LARGE DICKMAN
OneShot510
Are these truly the thoughts of a fat girl? This has been very enlightening.
TheThoughtsOfAFatGirl
JustSomeRandomGuyOnTheInternet
are you saying you know exactly how much uv radiation is needed to kill a vampire? we are speaking of a mythological creature.
GH05TY
1 sq meter of complete shade, illuminated by a clear midday sky, receives about 200,000 times more energy than it does from a full moon.
JustSomeRandomGuyOnTheInternet
ok? also not my point.