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I'm so sick and tired of this "guilty until proven innocent" mentality that plagues this website. I am repeatedly seeing stories reach the front page where the comments are filled with people cheering on "battered women" or threatening the people being accused in the posts. Two that I saw in the past week made me absolutely embarrassed to be part of this community and I can think of multiple examples over the past few months that make it worse.
Let's start with the "HI Walter" guy. I think the fat kid's name was Patrick. Anyway, there was this video where the fat kid, Patrick, was talking to this Walter person. He was bragging about how he got a new girlfriend and how he'd be so jealous of her. Patrick then takes the camera and brings us to the bathroom where he had a girl tied up, beaten, and crying on the floor. Awful scene. So why is this a problem?
Well...I, among many others, had seen this video long before it ever arrived on Imgur. We knew it to be a hoax. Creepy as fuck, but a hoax nonetheless. But what did the dumbass Internet detectives do? Well they decided that the girl in the video looked somewhat similar to a girl who had gone missing around the time that the video was originally uploaded. So they contacted to police. And the police checked the video. Would have been nice if it would have ended there. But no. The Internet detectives contacted the family of this girl and asked her if she looked like their daughter. Post after post were put on Imgur, circle jerking each other for the "heroes" they were.
Turns out it wasn't the girl. In fact, "Patrick" was an actor or something and made multiple videos like this. So... Thank God Imgur got involved and tried to ruin this kid's life. Digging up the past, reopening wounds that the family had probably find let heal... But then there were people who tried to justify it. "Well it was better safe than sorry" some would say. Yeah, sure. Because the girl also had dark hair and was white. She looked like the missing girl... Fuck sakes.
And that wasn't the only time. That was just the one that pissed me off the most. Not two weeks later a post was being spread around about this girl who was beaten to a pulp by here boyfriend. It was awful. She looked terrible. All the White Knights of Imgur jumped to her aid. But suddenly her post was removed. Why? Hmm...weird because she re-uploaded it the next day, claiming that she was too embarrassed to keep it up there but decided to be brave and try again.
The real reason? Someone who knows how to think for themselves did some digging and found her Facebook account. Turns out, she actually tripped over her niece's toy and banged her face on the coffee table. Haha but yeah man...let's just jump to her aid without any thought.
More recently there were two stories that some of you might have seen. The first was about a judge who asked a "rape victim" why she didn't just keep her legs closed. But wait...turns out after reading the transcripts of the trial, the judge was actually questioning her about how someone was able to penetrate her when her bottom was in the sink the way she described it. With her pants around her ankles and her ass in the sink, the judge could see no reasonable way that he could have done that without her assistance. So he asked her what he asked her. Thank God for context.
And the next story was about the Indian athlete who wasn't allowed to be in the country because of Trump's travel ban. But Chuck something appealed to the court and he was allowed to play over here, where he proceeded to rape a 13 year old girl. Oh but wait...if this story wasn't bullshit, I wouldn't have brought it up. Imgur actually ripped this one to shreds and I'm pretty happy about that. But anywho, India isn't part of the travel ban. And the girl that was "raped" was actually kissed on the mouth and groped above her clothing. Now, that's definitely not good but according to some comments I read, this is a sign of affection in India and is in no way sexual or whatever. So yes, it is weird and in my opinion, wrong... But it isn't rape.
Why do I bring up these examples? Because I'm tired of people jumping down my throat when I ask for evidence to support claims of...well anything really. I'm tired of being the asshole when everyone is on the bandwagon believing what they read, but then when I'm proven right...no apologies. Nothing.
Moral of this huge rant. Don't be sheep. Think for yourself. Do your own fucking research and stop with this "guilty until proven innocent" bullshit.
TL;DR: OP is aggravated with the listen and believe mentality that Imgur seems to have. I'm well aware there are quite a few people that agree with me on this but the minority is the loudest...
totallynotasockpuppet
Sometimes user sub is a lot like reverse tumblr. Welcome to the world were sentiments equal reality and every opposing opinion is terrorism.
ThatsWhatSheSed
It is well established that Imgurians absolutely LOVE to circle jerk and lick their own dick holes to feel better than everyone else.
mriokrt
Seems like this is an awkward statement coming from a guy cocking a gun ...
meanMemes
people are quick to judge and slow to forgive and even if they forget have just google it later on
TiredOfMyUsernameBeingMyActualNameSoIChangedIt
I read half of it. My answer is: people like feeling important and like drama, so it's gonna happen no matter what you do.
TopBunBoy
I hate this community. Only one worse is Stephen Universe fans
DannyDLC
Yes
SexyClaptrap
Ugh just don't call people sheep, @OP, ruins your argument because it's an ad hominem attack
unclemeat70
Illustrates the point that very few on the site actually do any 'research' on any thing.
SoThenThisAssholeSaid
Imgur went from a Reddit offshoot, to a site plagued with the same mass appeal morons from Facebook. Welcome to why this was a bad thing.
howlinginpain
I do what I want
TheBigBoldLlama
The Court of Public Opinion at its finest!
ImNotCreativeEnoughForAGoodUsername
I deconstructed a bullshit post about a week or two ago, and brought up sources, why this was misleading, etc, and guess who got more 1/2
ImNotCreativeEnoughForAGoodUsername
attention? This site just wants the next thing to grab onto, it's always "Fuck this" or "Oh god *cringe*" but no one looks in the mirror 2/2
zma123456
This site has turned into shit. It use to be nice.
feastofthemind
Pretty sure that same judge also told her pain is a part of sex....so maybe find better examples.
Iamdisgusto
Yes
kittensmakemesquee
Yeah, except that judge resigned after it was recommended he be fired by the judicial disciplinary committee. Only the 3rd time in history.
kittensmakemesquee
He completely lost the confidence of the public. That was NOT mob justice. That was a well researched and constructed decision by the comm.
yikesaroni
and then theres these imgurians:
. same topic, different perspective, it's a dirty attitude
zma123456
This site is now a mixture of 4chan, Reddit, and thumblr. Shit all around.
iDigDinos
Yea... I made the mistake of believing this was an actual image hosting site until I checked my account a year later and found people trash
iDigDinos
talking the meme that I had posted. I was just using imgur to host the damn meme, it was funny and for a niche group, but apparently it
iDigDinos
wasn't a -real- problem. Like some people need to step off the computer, go get some real friends, and use that energy for good
FloppyPankake47
Question everything my friend
honeyham420glazeit
As Redgrin Grumboldt would say, "Think for yourselves. Don't be sheep." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vj6Xn6WRiQQ
TheDoctormoriarty
Innocent until proven guilty is for legality not public opinion or mob mentality that plagues this site
zma123456
This site has turned into like Reddit combined with 4chan. Well, for me I'm going to stop using imgur.
Tarmaccian
How's that working out for you?
BlackManInABush
Mob mentality in general. Thats why, if society ever crumbles, Im heading for the wilderness. Not getting bludgeoned by a pack of followers.
Someguy3239
I read that as "Not getting bludgeoned by a pack of flowers." Which I guess is technically still a true statement.
Enigmastick
It is still a good rule to follow. Someone being "guilty until proven innocent" makes you think about the person's moral compass a lot.
gamblingpoet
Reddit detectives blamed the wrong guy for the Boston Marathon Bombing
Rybus
Which got the MIT guard killed when the bombers panicked and made the falsely accused kill himself. Good work reddit.
aboxacaraflatafan
Wait, what? I don't remember reading anything that said there was evidence to suggest that he killed himself as a result of the accusation.
Macynist
Yeah they also keep blaming some old guy from Connecticut for 9/11
paeches
People are white knights even with the evidence.
zoidburgerandfries
I love the irony of telling people not to be sheep.
Tyrannotron
You sound just like a guilty person.
gamblingpoet
Hey @OP? You know that Canadian judge want to defend? By his own admission, he does not understand Canadian criminal laws.
ThisWorldMakesMeSad
What does that have to do with what I'm defending? I'm defending the fact that he was taken out of context.
gamblingpoet
YOU DON'T ASK A WOMAN WHY DIDN'T SHE DIDN'T FIGHT BACK HARDER YOU FUCKING IDIOT.
ThisWorldMakesMeSad
Except that's not what he was asking. He was trying to understand how she could have been raped in the situation she was describing. If
ThisWorldMakesMeSad
You actually read the transcripts it's obvious to anyone that she wasn't raped. It was consensual and she regretted it in the morning.
TurtleOnTheRocks
Do you believe that forceful rape is the only type of actual rape?
gamblingpoet
He was a bankruptcy judge. Telling a woman "why didn't you turn your pelvis to prevent penetration" is completely inappropriate. He said
gamblingpoet
"why didn't you put your bottom in the sink". He has no right to ask a woman why she didn't fight harder to prevent being raped.
ILikeCuteGifsAndICannotLie
Except the Canadian judge was removed fromt he bench http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/09/world/robin-camp-rape-comments-judge-resigns-trnd/ @OP
sendmedog
Exactly. And had been at the time this was posted on Imgur.
SJohnson23
He also repeatedly referred to the victim as the accused. He also said "sometimes pain and sex go together".
ThisWorldMakesMeSad
That was never what I was arguing. I was arguing that he was taken out of context to make it seem like he was asking the girl why she
ThisWorldMakesMeSad
Didn't just keep her legs closed. There was more to this line of questioning that hardly anyone bothered to look into. Which is common
ThisWorldMakesMeSad
Practice around here. What happened later is irrelevant to the point I was trying to make.
ILikeCuteGifsAndICannotLie
He was removed because of the line of questions. You bump your head or something?
ThisWorldMakesMeSad
For like the FIFTH TIME that has NOTHING to do with what I'm defending.
YourButtIsSpatulaShaped
Yeah the quote wasn't true but the guy DID treat a rape victim with very little respect when it's hard enough to go through a rape trial.
mikeatike
I just opened a pitchfork store. I need these fake stories to stay in business!
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notimporant
I sell candles and curtains, I'm happy to help where I can.
TerryCruise
I sell baseball bats. Wanna threeway
chiefs86
If you want to expand your stock to something a bit more...volatile, the Molotov Warehouse can help you fill your customers' needs.
4chansdboard
I got Dox for miles fam.
chickNlittle
Mob mentality. I strongly feel NO NAMES should be released to the public prior to the end of a trial.
searrowsmith
Yeah. That sick fuck No Names Mcgoo needs some mob jusrice for his crimes.
SchrodingersGinger
Especially when people probably innocent STILL have their lives ruined by mere accusations. Its ridiculous
MindOfMobius
i think we should abolish the courts and just go back to lynch mobs.
Velexis
In Denmark we don't get names or pictures, even after (except in extreme situations).
DongValhalla
I was asked to leave a Poli-sci class in college for suggesting that very thing.
TheIronBull
I'm sorry what? Why?
MnemonicMonkeys
Those classmates are ignorant cunts then
hitlershairydick
"Well you may have the right to free speech but if you say something people don't like they can deny you education that you paid for."
Jayhawk92
Did your professor ask you to leave or a fellow student?
DongValhalla
I made my statement in a plain monotone kind of way, students immediately piled on, professor told me to get out for being insensitive.
EECompliance
Ahh So you feel the need to tell lies about academia eh?
MyWeeLadGimli
Insensitive to whom? It's not the public's business.
ThisWorldMakesMeSad
I will try and find sources for all the stories I mentioned. I didn't come prepared Haha. If anyone would like to help out with them,
probshouldntsayitbut
I didn't see any of these stories on here. Did they all get lots of upvotes?
TurtleOnTheRocks
Has it occurred to you that the abused girl who wrote about tripping over her nieces table on FB may of lied there as a cover?
ThisWorldMakesMeSad
I'd appreciate it. Thank you.
mikeatike
Did you reply to thank yourself?
ThisWorldMakesMeSad
No? If anyone had posted a source, I was thanking them in advance.
mikeatike
Oh oh, its a continuation of your first comment. Got it. :)
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ThisWorldMakesMeSad
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/indian-athlete-who-overcame-the-travel-ban-arrested-for-sexual-abuse-in-new-york/2017/03/03/47799758-d1
ThisWorldMakesMeSad
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2017/03/10/judge-resigns-over-jabs-at-rape-accuser-why-couldnt-you-just-keep-your-knees-t
ThisWorldMakesMeSad
Trying to find the context video I watched the other day. I'll post it as a reply to this.
FeWill
This one didn't work, just gives a page not found.
ThisWorldMakesMeSad
FFS I think the link is slightly too long. My apologies