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FieryFarts
But a few days is three days.. not two...
MrMeems
I suspect an embedded poster for the sake of a publicity stunt.
nordicfatcheese
That's so stupid, I love it.
PhillStew
It's not bad
Sm9yCg
It's EA. Don't buy EA games. Simple as that.
RayGiIIette
I was curious why I am still able to play
KnowmSaying
Right intime for shadow of war
Thoraxe123
Wow, it really does work on the weak minded.
MrStick
Honestly it's really fun so far. And WAYYYY more content than the first in the beta alone
ReaperCDN
I'm loving the space battles. REALLY looking forward to the campaign.
Andalite
I just want some legit space battles
rabiddutchman
I enjoyed the hell out of them. I get that this isn't everyone's cup of tea, but I found the game to be a good time overall.
SovietPlays
Holy shit that worked...
ChrisTallant
But.. they did this for the first one...
BraughtGurst
I installed this PoS 2 days ago and spent half an hour trying to get passed the UA page it would even let me accept the damn thing (xb1) 1/2
And yesterday I managed to accept it by the grace of Gabe And it did the same shit on the main menu so I still couldn't play. So fuck you EA
Jagfan14
You may go about your business -you may go about your business Move along -move along
NotIrony
Fuckin EA ripping people off as usual! a few means 3 or more. 2 is only a couple! Motherfuckers!
EvilWhiteness
Thank you, Imgur, for letting me know the beta was open
TheMightyKibbless
This game is crazy fun
DrShrinker
People, please stop giving EA money.
UnreasonablyImprudentPerson
I have serious, serious trust issues when it comes to EA games like the game looks great but am I buying half a game again?
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NarwhalAreFakeNews
Ubisoft stepped up there game alot recently aswell... R6S and the division both getting tons of support even though they were failing hard
undeadhobo
you're buying the whole game, but other people can buy upgrades to have 100% more damage and health than you so multiplayer is gonna suck
youdontknowhowtoeatmuffjohnsnow
Generally.
JustAnotherMeh
I'm not worried about the amount or quality of content but I am really worried about the microtransactions they put in it this time.
DarthReznor
This is why I always wait like 2 months for the youtuber reviews to come out. If angry joe likes it, I might give it a shot
Ruoska
AJ has already had his rant about the current loot crate system. I was really looking forward to this and SoW, but definately a no buy 4 me
SnookerSylph
I usually wait for boogie2988 to go over it, although his stance on microtransactions is far more strict than mine, he has great reviews
ChairDeity
The real battlefront 2 now says classic,2005 next to it. So that’s weird.
Sonicdahedgie
We've always been at war with Eastasia, though.
Puttzy
The 1st game was such a fucking disaster, theu promise 18 maps but it looks to be some maps are the same just smaller sect of a whole.
slendersnipes
play the "classic" battlefronts. they're already everything you could want
And with the servers up and running again. Yeah.
SpiritoftheSands
Im having problems connecting to those servers, anyone else have that issue?
I do actually but idk why, i assumed it was due to a 2nd peraon on my network connecting. Didnt diagnose tho
riggityriggity
Season pass is free as far as I'm aware; go back and play it's great fun with more maps and game modes
GothmogLordofBalrogs
of course its free. advancement is through stupid loot boxes
PJsnaks
You guys are talking about different games. He meant the first game, you mean the second.
thesolamnus
Its only free if you bought the deluxe version not standard
He means its free now. However i think that might only be with ea access. Not sure.
flavivsaetivs
No it's free for standard. All DLC is free.
Ameeba37
Ehh I got the season pass free even though I had the standard edition
Eztrcfyu
Aka you actually paid for the game + dlc but they call it 'deluxe' to make you feel better about it. Fuckin publishers
Trying to make you feel like you got a better deal because the dlc was 'free' when you bought a more expensive version of the game
7grims
STOP ADVERTISING THIS GAME! who cares, it still have loot boxes, which are strictly pay-to-win. AND its EA, fuck sake ppl.
BillogUncle
EA have just confirmed that they, as a company, are weak minded
zcor420
EA's FW- http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/2012/10/doubletake.gif
WhatUpStevo
The first step to recover is admitting the problem publicly.
williewest12
LustrousShadow
"Confirmed." Just like I "confirm" the presence of gravity every time I put my feet on the ground?
Sirsir94
Was that ever in question?
Sharples1997
Most of what they do is rerelease the same game over and over, so I’m inclined to agree.
Convergent
Madden 2031 New Feature: team rosters have different names!
MalNebiros
I thought the monetisation made that apparent
Newthoenikker
They are a large corporation that people will buy from. They found a way to squeeze more money out. Sounds like we are the weak minds
Those who buy something with such game breaking microtransactions in could be argued to be yes.
ICOPPEDTHISHOUSE
But when other companies do it people praise them for listening to the community (I know we're talking about EA).
Eldibs
(Psst... it's because the Jedi Mind Trick only works on the weak-minded, and it worked on EA...)
BobLobLawOG
Don't forget stupid. Few means 3. Not two.
b1ggulpshuh
You must be a thrilling conversationalist.... Few : a small number of. synonyms:a small number, a handful, a couple, two or three...
Dreigiau
"a" is one, a couple is two, a few is three or four. How many people are on the cover of A Few Good Men?
The cover of a few good men vs. a dictionary? You apparently win...and are a potato
I was contesting your assertion that 2 is "a few". The dictionaries I checked call out 2 as being referred to as "a couple"
Elroydb
I thought they were Toydarians. Jedia mind tricks don't work; only money
TheClayKnight
No, they're really weak minded Toydarians.
DarthSully
Or they just want more data to make sure the full game is the best it could be, don't be a negative douche.
OtterAvalanche
Hard not to be when EA is involved
Well idk why everyone is so salty, the beta has been awesome IMO
EA has given many reasons to be salty. Mismanagement of games, microtransactions, poor customer service...
Is that their fault, or yours for continuing to think it will be any different. Bigger expectations bigger disappointment. Lol
LiteralNazi
Or, and I know this is a stretch, but maybe they are trying to buy more precious time to fix the half-finished game they planned to release?
aluriilol
Let's remake a total classic. Put amazing graphics. Decent gameplay. Lots of maps and modes. And then only release 10% of it upfront. -EA
RustyPenny
They, unfortunately did not remake Battlefront 2. It's simply a new Star Wars game titled as the old one, but I agree about the 10% part.
SYLOH
Hokey customer satisfaction and ancient commitment to quality are no match for a good continuous revenue stream at your side, kid.
Wahguaghhgahhhhhhhhhghhhhhhhhhhghhhhhhhhhhghhh! *in agreeance*
What do you mean? no flame
I am talking about the one just before this new Battlefront 2. You originally had to pay like $200 dollars for all the DLC
I think he means the beta test. It's very limited. I had a blast though, and really like the feel of it. Very active game.
Almost! Just talking about the one before it - was released with 3 maps and 6 heroes, and $200 worth of DLC
Yeah hopefully EA learned their lesson. I've always gotten my money back when their games fell completely flat in the past.
HikaruHooded
The game is fun, feels good to play something Star Wars related, but fuck this lootbox system, not going to buy just because of this
gingen
Yah, it's pretty bad and potentially pay to win.
Lootboxes should just be for cosmetics & skins, not something that give you an actual advantage against someone else.
TARENACCOUNT
If the loot box gives you trouble then its up to the player not the game.
XaviersSnakeArm
Lootboxes should just fuck off entirely
To be fair they only have up to six cards available for each class, hero, and ships. And the boxes can be earned easily without paying.
"easily" ? Imagine how much better it would be, if the game wasn't designed around grind, in order to sell loot boxes.
I get what you're saying, but you'd still be grinding if you couldn't buy them. I'm against paying for them, but it's not even hard to get.
no, if there was no loot boxes there wouldnt be grind, there wouldnt be rares to catch etc, i still remember games before 2010
Kougeru
Easily? Sure. But in time to obtain it's a huge difference. Any advantage at all is pay to win.
While I see what you are saying, I respectfully disagree. I only played a few games and had enough credits to buy the biggest crate.
And I sucked while I played
BattleRattle9
Can anyone tell me if it’s good or not??
DlennGanzig
U wanna get wanna be game devs.because that's how u get them
MindOfMobius
is ok
pAceMakerNZ
Just another cheap pew pew simulator
TheOriginalNonfiction
Game is pay2win with buy-able lootboxes that contain cards for upgrading your heroes and vehicles.
IwishIwereKeithDavid
It is! Lots of fun, slight learning curve.
Camelspotting
Not particularly, it's like COD where you just throw yourself at the enemy constantly. It looks much better but the gunplay is mediocre.
Depends, do you have terrible taste in video games? Does a really piss poor version of Battlefield with a Starwars skin sound good?
ViolentVibrator
I like it alot. Huge improvement from battlefront 1. The space battles is my favorite. Classes need to be tweaked a bit.
exponentiallymusical
Star Wars: Call of Battle-watch.
palmo
... Battlefront came out in 2004, after the original COD but the MOBA style shooter was pioneered by Battlefront, not Overwatch.
You misspelled Quake there. However I was referring to their use of loot box and rank systems.
Bobfromboblandofbob
Mixed; wont preorder
Really fun to play but they have a pay to win microtransaction system basically, which is going to kill it.
DeadBoiTasty
It's a blast so far, already got to max rank. But if you're a PC player don't turn on DX12
chrisdafish
The space battles are pretty fun but too short for me to be able to play as the hero ships
YourBiologicalFatherWhoIsProud
Mine wouldn't even register my controller. Tried to skip the intro and wouldn't let me sign in. Pretty good so far
MoltarsGhost
I like it a lot but EA will ruin it with pay to win bullshit.
rpxi
gotta buy it then they have pay2win shit hard pass
airplanefood94
It truly is a beta they do this to gun bugs and nothing else
ShitIstoleFrom4chan
I mean, with the first one they sold you the "construct" of a game that they slowly upgraded to "full game" with DLC over a year..
SterlingValor
I enjoy it. There are kinks to work out but otherwise enjoyable
JapAnus
It's EA, it has microtransactions.
chinarider1
Gameplay is really fun. I dont think its going to be pay to win, you can get credits almost easier by just playing the game
PokemonTrainerofArcanine
It has some serious progression and pay to win problems.
VonOhlnhausen
If you are looking for a better game than the last Star Wars Battlefront with a pay to win system, yes.
techley
I couldn't even get mine to open. Origin kept shitting itself
AegonTheBastardTargaryen
it is alot of fun and it is good they took all the mistakes and things they left out and fixed them all they actually listened
CommunistPapaJohn
It's fun but impossible to win 40 player game mode as the Empire
PaulNixon
Gameplay is fun, og moded battlefront 2 is more fun, but it is better than the last ea battlefront. But the crates are just terrible
Gxgear
Pay2Win
hellomanyes
It's okay; I don't like the space battles.
DeadlyAutism
It lacks the simulation like feel that the 2005 version did
Deadpoolio7
Played it a fair bit, had a lot of fun. So yeah, it’s pretty good.
TheCollectorOfTaboo
Gameplay-wise it's insanely fun but it's already looking like it'll be littered with microtransactions to even progress in the game.
You're completely wrong. Experience allows you to add more things you can only get from crates. Progression is directly tied to crates.
A number changes. In no way have you progressed door unlocked anything. You are completely wrong stop defending EA's shity microtransactions
Agunslingerborn
The gameplay is much better than the last one. But again, the loot crates will be an issue for pay to win...
ForlornFennec
I sucked at it and I still had immense fun. Granted, not sure how I'd stomach the crates in the long run, but still... amazing experience.
picardsbeard
It’s “meh”
cosine83
The Battlefront beta was super fun and then...
RandomTechpriest
Minus lootboxes, gameplay, sound design, and graphics are fantastic!
BoozeHound001
Loot boxes make it so you have to pay to compete or grind like a fucker to get what you want.
rhymeswithleek
It's very good, crashes alot but hopefully that's just the beta, although dice games usually have shakey releases
mutedia
I got bored of the map really quickly.. that's not the type of map that got me into battlefield/battlefront
oceansss
Its fun but kinda not a full game so i cant really decide if i want to buy it yet.
mikmeh
p2w loot crates ruined an otherwise amazingly fun game. I'm still playing it tho while its free
smileyhat
I hear the game is fun but it has an actual pay-to-win lootbox system which might ruin it.
Crafteroon
First one was Phantom Menace, this one seems Attack of the Clones. Better by comparison, still doesn't make it a good one.
Ohhhlookaunicorneatingasamurai
Or.
justwannarunaway
You have to try the space battle! Oh my god! The control is so much better and the whole game is so much fun!
GaryKahle
No no its not
HesusChristos
One month later...
themercwithamouthdeadpool
It’s fun I just wish they had more than one map and game type available. Way better than the last game
Lol it’ll be like the entire game is being released
It's pay to win
KrispyVG
As a starwars fan, its REALLY good. As a gamer, its a pretty solid time waster. Some people just like hating things i think ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Velexis
Same as the first one.
SpartanBurke
Its fun but the Microtransactions are horrible, Angryjoe did a video on it earlier
JarJarBinksKisser
Its kinda underwhelming. Doesn't give you that Itch to replay. If you have Plasystation Pluss MetalGearSoildV is free. that game is hella~
sarcasticbear
If it's good or not.
Animala144
It's not.
SnikwaH
Had high hopes, seemed really repetitive and the only good mode was the dog fighting
Alsenoth
Starfighter mode is amazing. Tie Fighters and Y Wings are where it's at. Poe's X Wing and Maul's Scimitar are the two best Hero Ships, easy.
Varimahtras
it lacks the epicness of a battlefield 1 but is fun imo. 7 / 10
GnoHomo
Does it have the galactic conquest mode?
No but it's still really fun and a significant improvement over the first.
No.
fred28056
No but at least it has custom battles
RaveningWendigo
Not from the 2005 Battlefront 2. Not like that. At least not yet.
acme64
yes, it does.
BoreltheRaccoon
5/10. You get bored in 3 rounds.
SoundPirate
I lost 5 in a row and was pretty frustrated
BrannDailor
https://youtu.be/YMDGPSWWA18?t=11m50s
KassIas
The core gameplay is great fun and has had me and my friends playing for hours. The loot crates and class levelling suck balls.
AlmightyHamSandwich
It's fun as fuck.
rodgerdodger7
I might just suck but I felt very slow and limited in space. Makes it easier not to crash but less exciting and easier to get shot down.
HIVpatientZero
It's a little clunky but you get over it
bla00
It’s lit but so was the the beta for the first so we’ll see
WoodworkingIsLife
Currently playing it. My son and I are really digging it. Wish they would extend it until the full game comes out though.
dan10026
Honestly feels like a step backward to me. Only 1 of the guns felt good and the game just seemed really choppy. Just my opinion.
NorthCrown
I didn't experience any choppiness, but I too am curious i how mch the customization makes gunplay diverse enough
GngrbrdMan
Good game killed by pay2win bullshit.
FecalLord
Explain
THEREAINTNOWEEPININTHISHOME
Search
Downvoting only continues the problem of people not searching new information while pseudo-intellectually demanding it from social media.
Microtransactions that improve weapon strength and abilities.
Darktemis
The only way to progress is through lootboxes. They're very slow to get but you can, of course, pony up cash to get more.
thagooeyjuice
My husband is enjoying it. Everything wrong with the first one they fixed, his only complaint is heroes cost too many points.
So u only get them for a short while before match is over. Maybe they'll fix that.
DarkMutton
Depends on the skill level. On theed I'm usually picking up my first hero by the end of the MTT part
A few kill streaks, especially when grouped with teammates, can yield a hero with plenty of time to thoroughly enjoy
Exactly. I just played a round where I got Darth maul by halfway through the mtt phase
The heroes are pretty accessible after a few kill streaks, especially since the matches can last a while
HistoricalContext
Pay-to-win lootboxes. That should tell you everything you need to know.
you earn lootboxes for free
Well then, have fun playing for nine hours every day just so you don't get thrashed by the dude who bought $200 of lootboxes on day one.
I'd only really be buying it for the solo play modes anyway.
i mean, that's my intention.
GTalmighty
its a free beta and has just been extended go see for yourself
buttholewink
You have to preorder though, right?
Drathe
The "closed" beta was only Wednesday and Thursday. Friday onwards has been open.
what part free was confusing?
twohearteddoctor
No preorders only got it two days earlier or if ur like me u could have told ea you never got the code for the early access
Jocktopus
No, preorderers just got it two days early.
Randomman96
the actual open beta goes live.
C0wb0yB3bop
Nah, I’m a Xbox peasant and it just showed up for me to download
GhostSarge
It's been up for download since last week, however a home tile did not appear for everyone. Searching the store would have allowed access
consolepeasent
Can confirm
BuzzKiIlington
I'm not a huge fan of Battlefield style shooter combat, but the space battles are Hella fun
I was worried about battlefield style combat, mostly because i suck at it, but i think its much closer to the first battlefront
As a big Battlefield fan I'd like to say that the shooter mechanics in SW Battlefront are not even close to Battlefield
Nabashin
Agreed, was playing the star destroyer assault this morning. So good.
wagonburner5000
Roll? Do they have roll? Like, full on roll?
There's a dodge roll, yes
But I mean full control, like pitch, yaw and roll.
cpttnarg
its alright. looks decent, but gets boring pretty quickly.
PickIeRick
A very small subset of maps and game modes are free right now. Not even all of the classes are available yet. It’s been a ton of fun
Well it is a beta with only one map for each mode and only 4 “heroes” so. . .
I still played it for 16 hours too
I mean, I got to the level cap (10) in the first day, got 2 upgrades for each gun and unlocked every ability. Not much else to do with 1 map
EminentLine
I've heard it's really fun, gameplay wise, but its crate drop and progression systems might kill it.
FootSauce
But that's what sells. No one plays for just gameplay anyone everyone wants to feel like they're making progress. See ranked systems.
SKuIIFinger
Your foresight is 20/20
HeshTK
Hello from the future. You were right. Entire countries have passed laws against lootboxes and things like that now.
Kemyo
It actually isn't that bad for the crates, I don't know about full release, but it's good.
Denadiss
Initially i think its going to feel like pay to win but after a month or 2 things will balance out as it seems not too hard to earn the good
Cards just through playing normally
It's not nearly as bad in Starfighter mode, which heavily favors you if you play the objective. Really slanted, otherwise, though.
I've actually heard opposite, that people were in ships that were fully upgraded and no one could even get close and they were decimating.
Personally, I have very little card buffs and consistently get in the top 3 for either damage, kills or MVP.
NobodyIsBlankLikeGaston
Hindsight makes this statement so much funnier
joshyjosh
that's every game these days though. shadow of war, a SINGLE player game, is going to have loot crates.
ToastyMozart
Which is why despite loving the first game, I won't be buying it. Because FUCK THAT.
Oooo really sticking it to the man huh. It's single player. Not p2w. I'll bet anything you play games that still have crates
You'd lose that bet, and the game being singleplayer in no way excuses lootbox microtransaction bullshit.
Which fucking sucks.
But they're worthless
TinyBiscuits
This description can be used for almost every game lately
mans51
This one seems like a special kind of evil... like random progression that matters alot and you can only get it through lootboxes.
Hullaballoonatic
Can someone tell me how this is worse than the overwatch one? I assume it is because the reaction is a lot more hostile.
MRSADFACE
no the crates have cards that when applied to heroes can give a huge advantage, like game breaking and, they're hard to get a hold of unless
paid for
Overwatch doesn't effect gameplay at all. This one does.
Oh, so legit pay to win. That sucks
ltsDizzyD
They love putting that shit In their games. It's really annoying
I prefer it over paid dlc though
Yes, it really is. I refuse to buy any games with it now. Loot crates, microtransactions, etc.
DashingPolecat
Then don't complain when they have paid dlc instead.
I wouldn't. I prefer paid DLC.
AnExpertInThisField
Well some games are good with it. League for instance. Crates and transactions... all cosmetic though. And other champs.
Xandelle
If it only includes cosmetic items, I think it's fine. Upgrades that assist with gameplay though, that's a different story.
HomosexualNecrophiliacMallard
They are though. Especially loot boxes as it's pretty much gambling. You are guaranteed to get something, but that doesn't mean it is 1/?
AER000
You're not going to buy any games from now on then...
getmo
I play Steam more now, they got a different scam going: pay for games that aren't even finished yet. Some turn out to be gems tho.
YouCantUnsuckADick
Im ok with that. Ive got several dozen of backlog games and Civ 5 that I could play for the rest of my life. Fuck p2w loot box bullshit
immortalfew
Is it cosmetics only? If so who cares, they're cosmetics.
IlogicalVulture
No, the entire progression system is based around loot crates. All upgrades, all ability modifiers, all loot crates.
TitanoAggro
Huh, that sounds like a little game that Ubisoft came out with that went from 90% good reviews to 19% in less than a month.
TheTwoWhoKnocks
https://www.reddit.com/r/StarWarsBattlefront/comments/75b67t/spoiler_the_kamino_leak_that_a_lot_of_people/
TL;DR There will be many more crates at launch, and challenges that act like Hutt contracts will allow more focus on certain aspects of game
Yeah I saw that. It's a relieving and positive development, but the system is still very much pay to win.
ssyoda2
Yup. AAA gaming at its best
I did hear some rumors about more ways to earn specific drops for specific classes, but regardless the whole system is unacceptable as is.
While obnoxious, there's nothing that you can get from the loot crates that gives you a tremendous advantage. It's all ability tweaks, etc
Mouldymort
That doesn't change the fact that the only method of character progression/building is through rng loot crates. Its just shitty imo
shorey66
You're actual progression is currently tied to the crates. Here's hoping they change it fir release or I'm out
Dammit *your
Boba Fett has an ability that goes from 50% up to a 100% damage reduction just with the quality of the star card. (1
You can get lucky and get a lvl4 in the first crate or open 100 crates and only get a lvl1. That is true bs. (2
I'm not a huge fan of the lootbox system in Overwatch either, but atleast their system doesn't affect the game balance at all. (3
BolshajaSvinja
Nah some of them are pretty strong.
Not enough to be considered "pay to win"
DietCokeIsTheBest
If you can pay money to have an advantage over someone else then it's p2w
quintusfontane
100% damage reduction whilst using Fett's jetpack, for example.
SpraynardYitzben
I find the Hero and Ships make a difference, troopers nsm
I have yet to see a freaking rocket pistol, so there's that.
TheNSAIsAPrankLookAtTheCamera
I mean with enough credits you can craft an explosive bolts mod for officer
FieryFarts
But a few days is three days.. not two...
MrMeems
I suspect an embedded poster for the sake of a publicity stunt.
nordicfatcheese
That's so stupid, I love it.
PhillStew
It's not bad
Sm9yCg
It's EA. Don't buy EA games. Simple as that.
RayGiIIette
I was curious why I am still able to play
KnowmSaying
Right intime for shadow of war
Thoraxe123
Wow, it really does work on the weak minded.
MrStick
Honestly it's really fun so far. And WAYYYY more content than the first in the beta alone
ReaperCDN
I'm loving the space battles. REALLY looking forward to the campaign.
Andalite
I just want some legit space battles
rabiddutchman
I enjoyed the hell out of them. I get that this isn't everyone's cup of tea, but I found the game to be a good time overall.
SovietPlays
Holy shit that worked...
ChrisTallant
But.. they did this for the first one...
BraughtGurst
I installed this PoS 2 days ago and spent half an hour trying to get passed the UA page it would even let me accept the damn thing (xb1) 1/2
BraughtGurst
And yesterday I managed to accept it by the grace of Gabe And it did the same shit on the main menu so I still couldn't play. So fuck you EA
Jagfan14
You may go about your business -you may go about your business Move along -move along
NotIrony
Fuckin EA ripping people off as usual! a few means 3 or more. 2 is only a couple! Motherfuckers!
EvilWhiteness
Thank you, Imgur, for letting me know the beta was open
TheMightyKibbless
This game is crazy fun
DrShrinker
People, please stop giving EA money.
UnreasonablyImprudentPerson
I have serious, serious trust issues when it comes to EA games like the game looks great but am I buying half a game again?
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NarwhalAreFakeNews
Ubisoft stepped up there game alot recently aswell... R6S and the division both getting tons of support even though they were failing hard
undeadhobo
you're buying the whole game, but other people can buy upgrades to have 100% more damage and health than you so multiplayer is gonna suck
youdontknowhowtoeatmuffjohnsnow
Generally.
JustAnotherMeh
I'm not worried about the amount or quality of content but I am really worried about the microtransactions they put in it this time.
DarthReznor
This is why I always wait like 2 months for the youtuber reviews to come out. If angry joe likes it, I might give it a shot
Ruoska
AJ has already had his rant about the current loot crate system. I was really looking forward to this and SoW, but definately a no buy 4 me
SnookerSylph
I usually wait for boogie2988 to go over it, although his stance on microtransactions is far more strict than mine, he has great reviews
ChairDeity
The real battlefront 2 now says classic,2005 next to it. So that’s weird.
Sonicdahedgie
We've always been at war with Eastasia, though.
Puttzy
The 1st game was such a fucking disaster, theu promise 18 maps but it looks to be some maps are the same just smaller sect of a whole.
slendersnipes
play the "classic" battlefronts. they're already everything you could want
Puttzy
And with the servers up and running again. Yeah.
SpiritoftheSands
Im having problems connecting to those servers, anyone else have that issue?
Puttzy
I do actually but idk why, i assumed it was due to a 2nd peraon on my network connecting. Didnt diagnose tho
riggityriggity
Season pass is free as far as I'm aware; go back and play it's great fun with more maps and game modes
GothmogLordofBalrogs
of course its free. advancement is through stupid loot boxes
PJsnaks
You guys are talking about different games. He meant the first game, you mean the second.
thesolamnus
Its only free if you bought the deluxe version not standard
NarwhalAreFakeNews
He means its free now. However i think that might only be with ea access. Not sure.
flavivsaetivs
No it's free for standard. All DLC is free.
Ameeba37
Ehh I got the season pass free even though I had the standard edition
Eztrcfyu
Aka you actually paid for the game + dlc but they call it 'deluxe' to make you feel better about it. Fuckin publishers
Eztrcfyu
Trying to make you feel like you got a better deal because the dlc was 'free' when you bought a more expensive version of the game
7grims
STOP ADVERTISING THIS GAME! who cares, it still have loot boxes, which are strictly pay-to-win. AND its EA, fuck sake ppl.
BillogUncle
EA have just confirmed that they, as a company, are weak minded
zcor420
EA's FW- http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/2012/10/doubletake.gif
WhatUpStevo
The first step to recover is admitting the problem publicly.
williewest12
LustrousShadow
"Confirmed." Just like I "confirm" the presence of gravity every time I put my feet on the ground?
Sirsir94
Was that ever in question?
Sharples1997
Most of what they do is rerelease the same game over and over, so I’m inclined to agree.
Convergent
Madden 2031 New Feature: team rosters have different names!
MalNebiros
I thought the monetisation made that apparent
Newthoenikker
They are a large corporation that people will buy from. They found a way to squeeze more money out. Sounds like we are the weak minds
MalNebiros
Those who buy something with such game breaking microtransactions in could be argued to be yes.
ICOPPEDTHISHOUSE
But when other companies do it people praise them for listening to the community (I know we're talking about EA).
Eldibs
(Psst... it's because the Jedi Mind Trick only works on the weak-minded, and it worked on EA...)
BobLobLawOG
Don't forget stupid. Few means 3. Not two.
b1ggulpshuh
You must be a thrilling conversationalist.... Few : a small number of. synonyms:a small number, a handful, a couple, two or three...
Dreigiau
"a" is one, a couple is two, a few is three or four. How many people are on the cover of A Few Good Men?
b1ggulpshuh
The cover of a few good men vs. a dictionary? You apparently win...and are a potato
Dreigiau
I was contesting your assertion that 2 is "a few". The dictionaries I checked call out 2 as being referred to as "a couple"
Elroydb
I thought they were Toydarians. Jedia mind tricks don't work; only money
TheClayKnight
No, they're really weak minded Toydarians.
DarthSully
Or they just want more data to make sure the full game is the best it could be, don't be a negative douche.
OtterAvalanche
Hard not to be when EA is involved
DarthSully
Well idk why everyone is so salty, the beta has been awesome IMO
OtterAvalanche
EA has given many reasons to be salty. Mismanagement of games, microtransactions, poor customer service...
DarthSully
Is that their fault, or yours for continuing to think it will be any different. Bigger expectations bigger disappointment. Lol
LiteralNazi
Or, and I know this is a stretch, but maybe they are trying to buy more precious time to fix the half-finished game they planned to release?
aluriilol
Let's remake a total classic. Put amazing graphics. Decent gameplay. Lots of maps and modes. And then only release 10% of it upfront. -EA
RustyPenny
They, unfortunately did not remake Battlefront 2. It's simply a new Star Wars game titled as the old one, but I agree about the 10% part.
SYLOH
Hokey customer satisfaction and ancient commitment to quality are no match for a good continuous revenue stream at your side, kid.
aluriilol
Wahguaghhgahhhhhhhhhghhhhhhhhhhghhhhhhhhhhghhh! *in agreeance*
NarwhalAreFakeNews
What do you mean? no flame
aluriilol
I am talking about the one just before this new Battlefront 2. You originally had to pay like $200 dollars for all the DLC
ReaperCDN
I think he means the beta test. It's very limited. I had a blast though, and really like the feel of it. Very active game.
aluriilol
Almost! Just talking about the one before it - was released with 3 maps and 6 heroes, and $200 worth of DLC
ReaperCDN
Yeah hopefully EA learned their lesson. I've always gotten my money back when their games fell completely flat in the past.
HikaruHooded
The game is fun, feels good to play something Star Wars related, but fuck this lootbox system, not going to buy just because of this
gingen
Yah, it's pretty bad and potentially pay to win.
HikaruHooded
Lootboxes should just be for cosmetics & skins, not something that give you an actual advantage against someone else.
TARENACCOUNT
If the loot box gives you trouble then its up to the player not the game.
XaviersSnakeArm
Lootboxes should just fuck off entirely
RayGiIIette
To be fair they only have up to six cards available for each class, hero, and ships. And the boxes can be earned easily without paying.
7grims
"easily" ? Imagine how much better it would be, if the game wasn't designed around grind, in order to sell loot boxes.
RayGiIIette
I get what you're saying, but you'd still be grinding if you couldn't buy them. I'm against paying for them, but it's not even hard to get.
7grims
no, if there was no loot boxes there wouldnt be grind, there wouldnt be rares to catch etc, i still remember games before 2010
Kougeru
Easily? Sure. But in time to obtain it's a huge difference. Any advantage at all is pay to win.
RayGiIIette
While I see what you are saying, I respectfully disagree. I only played a few games and had enough credits to buy the biggest crate.
RayGiIIette
And I sucked while I played
BattleRattle9
Can anyone tell me if it’s good or not??
DlennGanzig
U wanna get wanna be game devs.because that's how u get them
MindOfMobius
is ok
pAceMakerNZ
Just another cheap pew pew simulator
TheOriginalNonfiction
Game is pay2win with buy-able lootboxes that contain cards for upgrading your heroes and vehicles.
IwishIwereKeithDavid
It is! Lots of fun, slight learning curve.
Camelspotting
Not particularly, it's like COD where you just throw yourself at the enemy constantly. It looks much better but the gunplay is mediocre.
Sonicdahedgie
Depends, do you have terrible taste in video games? Does a really piss poor version of Battlefield with a Starwars skin sound good?
ViolentVibrator
I like it alot. Huge improvement from battlefront 1. The space battles is my favorite. Classes need to be tweaked a bit.
exponentiallymusical
Star Wars: Call of Battle-watch.
palmo
... Battlefront came out in 2004, after the original COD but the MOBA style shooter was pioneered by Battlefront, not Overwatch.
exponentiallymusical
You misspelled Quake there. However I was referring to their use of loot box and rank systems.
Bobfromboblandofbob
Mixed; wont preorder
flavivsaetivs
Really fun to play but they have a pay to win microtransaction system basically, which is going to kill it.
DeadBoiTasty
It's a blast so far, already got to max rank. But if you're a PC player don't turn on DX12
chrisdafish
The space battles are pretty fun but too short for me to be able to play as the hero ships
YourBiologicalFatherWhoIsProud
Mine wouldn't even register my controller. Tried to skip the intro and wouldn't let me sign in. Pretty good so far
MoltarsGhost
I like it a lot but EA will ruin it with pay to win bullshit.
rpxi
gotta buy it then they have pay2win shit hard pass
airplanefood94
It truly is a beta they do this to gun bugs and nothing else
ShitIstoleFrom4chan
I mean, with the first one they sold you the "construct" of a game that they slowly upgraded to "full game" with DLC over a year..
SterlingValor
I enjoy it. There are kinks to work out but otherwise enjoyable
JapAnus
It's EA, it has microtransactions.
chinarider1
Gameplay is really fun. I dont think its going to be pay to win, you can get credits almost easier by just playing the game
PokemonTrainerofArcanine
It has some serious progression and pay to win problems.
VonOhlnhausen
If you are looking for a better game than the last Star Wars Battlefront with a pay to win system, yes.
techley
I couldn't even get mine to open. Origin kept shitting itself
AegonTheBastardTargaryen
it is alot of fun and it is good they took all the mistakes and things they left out and fixed them all they actually listened
CommunistPapaJohn
It's fun but impossible to win 40 player game mode as the Empire
PaulNixon
Gameplay is fun, og moded battlefront 2 is more fun, but it is better than the last ea battlefront. But the crates are just terrible
Gxgear
Pay2Win
hellomanyes
It's okay; I don't like the space battles.
DeadlyAutism
It lacks the simulation like feel that the 2005 version did
Deadpoolio7
Played it a fair bit, had a lot of fun. So yeah, it’s pretty good.
TheCollectorOfTaboo
Gameplay-wise it's insanely fun but it's already looking like it'll be littered with microtransactions to even progress in the game.
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TheCollectorOfTaboo
You're completely wrong. Experience allows you to add more things you can only get from crates. Progression is directly tied to crates.
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TheCollectorOfTaboo
A number changes. In no way have you progressed door unlocked anything. You are completely wrong stop defending EA's shity microtransactions
Agunslingerborn
The gameplay is much better than the last one. But again, the loot crates will be an issue for pay to win...
ForlornFennec
I sucked at it and I still had immense fun. Granted, not sure how I'd stomach the crates in the long run, but still... amazing experience.
picardsbeard
It’s “meh”
cosine83
The Battlefront beta was super fun and then...
RandomTechpriest
Minus lootboxes, gameplay, sound design, and graphics are fantastic!
BoozeHound001
Loot boxes make it so you have to pay to compete or grind like a fucker to get what you want.
rhymeswithleek
It's very good, crashes alot but hopefully that's just the beta, although dice games usually have shakey releases
mutedia
I got bored of the map really quickly.. that's not the type of map that got me into battlefield/battlefront
oceansss
Its fun but kinda not a full game so i cant really decide if i want to buy it yet.
mikmeh
p2w loot crates ruined an otherwise amazingly fun game. I'm still playing it tho while its free
smileyhat
I hear the game is fun but it has an actual pay-to-win lootbox system which might ruin it.
Crafteroon
First one was Phantom Menace, this one seems Attack of the Clones. Better by comparison, still doesn't make it a good one.
Ohhhlookaunicorneatingasamurai
Or.
justwannarunaway
You have to try the space battle! Oh my god! The control is so much better and the whole game is so much fun!
GaryKahle
No no its not
HesusChristos
One month later...
themercwithamouthdeadpool
It’s fun I just wish they had more than one map and game type available. Way better than the last game
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themercwithamouthdeadpool
Lol it’ll be like the entire game is being released
Kougeru
It's pay to win
KrispyVG
As a starwars fan, its REALLY good. As a gamer, its a pretty solid time waster. Some people just like hating things i think ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Velexis
Same as the first one.
SpartanBurke
Its fun but the Microtransactions are horrible, Angryjoe did a video on it earlier
JarJarBinksKisser
Its kinda underwhelming. Doesn't give you that Itch to replay. If you have Plasystation Pluss MetalGearSoildV is free. that game is hella~
sarcasticbear
If it's good or not.
Animala144
It's not.
SnikwaH
Had high hopes, seemed really repetitive and the only good mode was the dog fighting
Alsenoth
Starfighter mode is amazing. Tie Fighters and Y Wings are where it's at. Poe's X Wing and Maul's Scimitar are the two best Hero Ships, easy.
Varimahtras
it lacks the epicness of a battlefield 1 but is fun imo. 7 / 10
GnoHomo
Does it have the galactic conquest mode?
flavivsaetivs
No but it's still really fun and a significant improvement over the first.
TheCollectorOfTaboo
No.
fred28056
No but at least it has custom battles
RaveningWendigo
Not from the 2005 Battlefront 2. Not like that. At least not yet.
acme64
yes, it does.
BoreltheRaccoon
5/10. You get bored in 3 rounds.
SoundPirate
I lost 5 in a row and was pretty frustrated
BrannDailor
https://youtu.be/YMDGPSWWA18?t=11m50s
KassIas
The core gameplay is great fun and has had me and my friends playing for hours. The loot crates and class levelling suck balls.
AlmightyHamSandwich
It's fun as fuck.
rodgerdodger7
I might just suck but I felt very slow and limited in space. Makes it easier not to crash but less exciting and easier to get shot down.
HIVpatientZero
It's a little clunky but you get over it
bla00
It’s lit but so was the the beta for the first so we’ll see
WoodworkingIsLife
Currently playing it. My son and I are really digging it. Wish they would extend it until the full game comes out though.
dan10026
Honestly feels like a step backward to me. Only 1 of the guns felt good and the game just seemed really choppy. Just my opinion.
NorthCrown
I didn't experience any choppiness, but I too am curious i how mch the customization makes gunplay diverse enough
GngrbrdMan
Good game killed by pay2win bullshit.
FecalLord
Explain
THEREAINTNOWEEPININTHISHOME
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THEREAINTNOWEEPININTHISHOME
Downvoting only continues the problem of people not searching new information while pseudo-intellectually demanding it from social media.
GngrbrdMan
Microtransactions that improve weapon strength and abilities.
Darktemis
The only way to progress is through lootboxes. They're very slow to get but you can, of course, pony up cash to get more.
thagooeyjuice
My husband is enjoying it. Everything wrong with the first one they fixed, his only complaint is heroes cost too many points.
thagooeyjuice
So u only get them for a short while before match is over. Maybe they'll fix that.
DarkMutton
Depends on the skill level. On theed I'm usually picking up my first hero by the end of the MTT part
b1ggulpshuh
A few kill streaks, especially when grouped with teammates, can yield a hero with plenty of time to thoroughly enjoy
DarkMutton
Exactly. I just played a round where I got Darth maul by halfway through the mtt phase
b1ggulpshuh
The heroes are pretty accessible after a few kill streaks, especially since the matches can last a while
HistoricalContext
Pay-to-win lootboxes. That should tell you everything you need to know.
acme64
you earn lootboxes for free
HistoricalContext
Well then, have fun playing for nine hours every day just so you don't get thrashed by the dude who bought $200 of lootboxes on day one.
ForlornFennec
I'd only really be buying it for the solo play modes anyway.
acme64
i mean, that's my intention.
GTalmighty
its a free beta and has just been extended go see for yourself
buttholewink
You have to preorder though, right?
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Drathe
The "closed" beta was only Wednesday and Thursday. Friday onwards has been open.
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acme64
what part free was confusing?
twohearteddoctor
No preorders only got it two days earlier or if ur like me u could have told ea you never got the code for the early access
Jocktopus
No, preorderers just got it two days early.
Randomman96
the actual open beta goes live.
C0wb0yB3bop
Nah, I’m a Xbox peasant and it just showed up for me to download
GhostSarge
It's been up for download since last week, however a home tile did not appear for everyone. Searching the store would have allowed access
consolepeasent
Can confirm
BuzzKiIlington
I'm not a huge fan of Battlefield style shooter combat, but the space battles are Hella fun
chinarider1
I was worried about battlefield style combat, mostly because i suck at it, but i think its much closer to the first battlefront
Ameeba37
As a big Battlefield fan I'd like to say that the shooter mechanics in SW Battlefront are not even close to Battlefield
Nabashin
Agreed, was playing the star destroyer assault this morning. So good.
wagonburner5000
Roll? Do they have roll? Like, full on roll?
NorthCrown
There's a dodge roll, yes
wagonburner5000
But I mean full control, like pitch, yaw and roll.
cpttnarg
its alright. looks decent, but gets boring pretty quickly.
PickIeRick
A very small subset of maps and game modes are free right now. Not even all of the classes are available yet. It’s been a ton of fun
Deadpoolio7
Well it is a beta with only one map for each mode and only 4 “heroes” so. . .
DarkMutton
I still played it for 16 hours too
Deadpoolio7
DarkMutton
I mean, I got to the level cap (10) in the first day, got 2 upgrades for each gun and unlocked every ability. Not much else to do with 1 map
EminentLine
I've heard it's really fun, gameplay wise, but its crate drop and progression systems might kill it.
FootSauce
But that's what sells. No one plays for just gameplay anyone everyone wants to feel like they're making progress. See ranked systems.
SKuIIFinger
Your foresight is 20/20
HeshTK
Hello from the future. You were right. Entire countries have passed laws against lootboxes and things like that now.
Kemyo
It actually isn't that bad for the crates, I don't know about full release, but it's good.
Denadiss
Initially i think its going to feel like pay to win but after a month or 2 things will balance out as it seems not too hard to earn the good
Denadiss
Cards just through playing normally
Alsenoth
It's not nearly as bad in Starfighter mode, which heavily favors you if you play the objective. Really slanted, otherwise, though.
EminentLine
I've actually heard opposite, that people were in ships that were fully upgraded and no one could even get close and they were decimating.
Alsenoth
Personally, I have very little card buffs and consistently get in the top 3 for either damage, kills or MVP.
NobodyIsBlankLikeGaston
Hindsight makes this statement so much funnier
joshyjosh
that's every game these days though. shadow of war, a SINGLE player game, is going to have loot crates.
ToastyMozart
Which is why despite loving the first game, I won't be buying it. Because FUCK THAT.
joshyjosh
Oooo really sticking it to the man huh. It's single player. Not p2w. I'll bet anything you play games that still have crates
ToastyMozart
You'd lose that bet, and the game being singleplayer in no way excuses lootbox microtransaction bullshit.
EminentLine
Which fucking sucks.
fred28056
But they're worthless
TinyBiscuits
This description can be used for almost every game lately
mans51
This one seems like a special kind of evil... like random progression that matters alot and you can only get it through lootboxes.
Hullaballoonatic
Can someone tell me how this is worse than the overwatch one? I assume it is because the reaction is a lot more hostile.
MRSADFACE
no the crates have cards that when applied to heroes can give a huge advantage, like game breaking and, they're hard to get a hold of unless
MRSADFACE
paid for
Alsenoth
Overwatch doesn't effect gameplay at all. This one does.
Hullaballoonatic
Oh, so legit pay to win. That sucks
ltsDizzyD
They love putting that shit In their games. It's really annoying
twohearteddoctor
I prefer it over paid dlc though
EminentLine
Yes, it really is. I refuse to buy any games with it now. Loot crates, microtransactions, etc.
DashingPolecat
Then don't complain when they have paid dlc instead.
EminentLine
I wouldn't. I prefer paid DLC.
AnExpertInThisField
Well some games are good with it. League for instance. Crates and transactions... all cosmetic though. And other champs.
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Xandelle
If it only includes cosmetic items, I think it's fine. Upgrades that assist with gameplay though, that's a different story.
HomosexualNecrophiliacMallard
They are though. Especially loot boxes as it's pretty much gambling. You are guaranteed to get something, but that doesn't mean it is 1/?
AER000
You're not going to buy any games from now on then...
getmo
I play Steam more now, they got a different scam going: pay for games that aren't even finished yet. Some turn out to be gems tho.
YouCantUnsuckADick
Im ok with that. Ive got several dozen of backlog games and Civ 5 that I could play for the rest of my life. Fuck p2w loot box bullshit
immortalfew
Is it cosmetics only? If so who cares, they're cosmetics.
IlogicalVulture
No, the entire progression system is based around loot crates. All upgrades, all ability modifiers, all loot crates.
TitanoAggro
Huh, that sounds like a little game that Ubisoft came out with that went from 90% good reviews to 19% in less than a month.
TheTwoWhoKnocks
https://www.reddit.com/r/StarWarsBattlefront/comments/75b67t/spoiler_the_kamino_leak_that_a_lot_of_people/
TheTwoWhoKnocks
TL;DR There will be many more crates at launch, and challenges that act like Hutt contracts will allow more focus on certain aspects of game
IlogicalVulture
Yeah I saw that. It's a relieving and positive development, but the system is still very much pay to win.
ssyoda2
Yup. AAA gaming at its best
IlogicalVulture
I did hear some rumors about more ways to earn specific drops for specific classes, but regardless the whole system is unacceptable as is.
rabiddutchman
While obnoxious, there's nothing that you can get from the loot crates that gives you a tremendous advantage. It's all ability tweaks, etc
Mouldymort
That doesn't change the fact that the only method of character progression/building is through rng loot crates. Its just shitty imo
shorey66
You're actual progression is currently tied to the crates. Here's hoping they change it fir release or I'm out
shorey66
Dammit *your
JustAnotherMeh
Boba Fett has an ability that goes from 50% up to a 100% damage reduction just with the quality of the star card. (1
JustAnotherMeh
You can get lucky and get a lvl4 in the first crate or open 100 crates and only get a lvl1. That is true bs. (2
JustAnotherMeh
I'm not a huge fan of the lootbox system in Overwatch either, but atleast their system doesn't affect the game balance at all. (3
BolshajaSvinja
Nah some of them are pretty strong.
rabiddutchman
Not enough to be considered "pay to win"
DietCokeIsTheBest
If you can pay money to have an advantage over someone else then it's p2w
quintusfontane
100% damage reduction whilst using Fett's jetpack, for example.
SpraynardYitzben
I find the Hero and Ships make a difference, troopers nsm
RaveningWendigo
I have yet to see a freaking rocket pistol, so there's that.
TheNSAIsAPrankLookAtTheCamera
I mean with enough credits you can craft an explosive bolts mod for officer