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If you're suicidal there's a chance you're a lot like me in the sense that suicide and thoughts of suicide became an every day thing that your mind wraps around. You start talking about suicide and everyone wants to call the cops so you don't hurt yourself. Someone makes a joke about suicide or the idea of suicide idealization in a positive light and everyone loses their minds thinking it encourages it. When I heard Luis CK's new stand up special where he talks about killing himself I felt less alone than I have in a long time. I don't like Hollywood Undead but their song Bullet will always be one of my favorites because for once my darkness doesn't have to feel so dark.
faytofstars
That is one of the best songs in the last few years. Amazing writing, and the contrast of lyrics/music is phenomenal.
NeandertalsRUs
My dad committed suicide 9 years ago and the only way I could deal with it was by cracking jokes.
littlegingerone
I have serious bouts of depression +anxiety and I love to make jokes about it .. doesnt matter if people feel uncomfortable thats the point
ShamnusMcfee
The whole world is full of people who haven't killed themselves.
BlameTheDeer
Same scenario for me. I was emitted for suicidal thoughts. But I joke about it regularly. It is oddly refreshing to lighten the mood.
TinyRickfromearthdimensionC137
It was like when Aaron Hernandez was left hanging when his friends went to the White House...
notthesameasmyotheraccountss
I've been struggling with suicidal ideation and thoughts, but I constantly joke about it. It's how I cope.
ShaneBrown13
I like making jokes about it because it tricks people into thinking I haven't tried to kill myself." he's joking so he's fine" perfect cover
mitch2161998
My personal favourite house joke is something like "stop, you cant make a joke about suicide" "oh no if I screwed up I would kill myself".
JoneStonImg
As someone who's dealt with that shit myself I couldn't agree more.
ImmaStealYoReactionPics
If we can joke about the Holocaust and 9/11, we can joke about anything.
kevincow
Which Louis CK special? I want to see what he has to say on suicide.
depressingcomments
the most recent one on netflix.
KarlMoebius
Depends on your place. I was so hypersensitive to it until I nearly shot myself; afterwards everything changed and I could joke about it.
FirstThingThatCameToMind
when you make a joke about something, you take the power away from that thing, it lessens the ability to cause harm.
ArdentSlacker
Depends on the joke. I mean, bigoted jokes normalize hurting people. And some get elected.
imaprettykittycat
My mom is mentally ill & making inappropriate jokes about the things that worry her rly helps coz it helps her see how absurd her fears are.
ArdentSlacker
Jokes are fab for presenting perspective.
TheUnpopularOpinionPuffin
I'm glad you found a way to cope, but not everyone appreciates this type of humor and we should respect that.
ScaryTransgenderPersonInTheRestroom
Especially if you fail at a real attempt. Laughter is the only way past it.
ArdentSlacker
O_o Not the only way. I haven't found a way to joke about it much.
Guppyninja
Yup, there's a difference between joking about something and diminishing it's importance or impact
Xanthus179
I think it's a grand idea, and have considered it for over 15 years. Every day, I get closer to giving up. Can't afford a gun yet, though.
ArdentSlacker
*hug* I'm struggling like fuck. Still hanging on. Got to therapy today. ^_^
ItMightBeTheWine
I guess I don't mind a joke, as long as you don't get mad at me for asking if you're okay . Are you okay?
depressingcomments
I'm good. Better than I was when suicide was my every thought :) thank you though
FernandoRumdebum
You should joke about everything. Just be aware that it may bother some people and if it does, stop. Know your audience
Kimstitch
Sometimes I feel sad and I cut myself... another slice of cake!
depressingcomments
That's because you know deep down you're sweet :) stop cutting, you're worth more than that.
Kimstitch
I don't cut, but thank you. I just like the line. Reminds m to laugh at myself. ;)
erratica
Same thing with "rape jokes are NEVER funny!" Yes, they are, and I knew I was starting to heal from my assault when I could laugh at them.
ArdentSlacker
George Carlin explains it well. And, honestly, it's never the subject of the joke that's the problem, it's quality, and implication.
ArdentSlacker
Not having nightmares so much about my trauma, but... I don't really have a good way to be glib about it. Setup's like a dick in the ass. 1+
ArdentSlacker
2/2 guaranteed to be long and painful.
hardytardigrade
Sounds to me like jokes about suicide offend people who try not to think about it. Suicidal people always think about it, so aren't offended
thorkild91
Now that I'm recovered and have gone through a fairly traumatic attempt, jokes about it make me uncomfortable. I'm not offended, but I
thorkild91
Turned off CK's special because it held zero humor for me. I could sit through it but I felt no reason to continue watching it.
ArdentSlacker
fair point. we don't get to not think about it.
LGMHorus
And finding out that I'm not alone with my suicidal thoughts is weirdly comforting. It makes me feel less isolated, less like a freak
rabastan
Everyone is different, I get offended by it but I don't care if others don't or do.
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Ernie20
Unravelled
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ScaryTransgenderPersonInTheRestroom
:( Good joke... but :(
Fokeno
That hurt. Teared up a bit. Laughed like hell. 10/10
TheMightyDingus
The only celebrity death I've ever really cared about. But I chuckled, I think he would have too
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UndulatingTerrain
*slinging crack rock if you're referring to the Biggie song.
TheStuffMemesAreMadeOf
Yes. Thank you. It's been a while since I heard it. This is my OC "so dark" joke.
MEMRITV
So dark the cops shot 6 times in the back
TypicalGayMan
Jomini001
I feel he would have approved
LiquidMilk
ChildeRolandToTheDarkTowerCame
....I don't get it. Batman can't Robin Williams? Robin kills himself? Robins dead?
gordolio
"Batman can hang upside down." Robin can only hang upside up. Robin Williams hung himself.
ichangedmyusernamebecauseiregretmyoriginaldecision
As someone experiencing depression who has had/is having suicidal thoughts, I would much rather not hear jokes about suicide. It's too real
ShaneBrown13
As someone who has failed miserably at killing themselves suicide jokes are fine. Why would I care nothing will matter soon anyways.
ichangedmyusernamebecauseiregretmyoriginaldecision
to me and honestly comes off as insensitive and trivializing an issue that affects every aspect of my life.
Tzazi
suicidal thoughts, and depression though I wouldn't say I do anymore. I'm with you, it's too real and I don't like them but if it helps 2/3
Tzazi
others out, I have to look at it from the other perspective, everyone handles and copes differently. Saying it shouldnt be done is wrong. 3
Tzazi
Yet for OP it helped to joke about it, different strokes for different folks, and not everything should be off limit. I've suffered 1/2
Tzazi
but maybe let the comedians like CK do it, in standup you can choose to watch or not, instead of making jokes everyday on the street. 4
CaroleBaskingShark
comedy, either it's all off limits. Or nothing is. That's the only fair way
Kurish
As long as it respects the material and has something to say that's not just punching down absolutely. But do respect your audience.
krugle
But there is or should be a grace period for things that happen.
ohmygoditsabear
Comedy equals tragedy plus time. I think that's a quote.
WhiskersVonHoppyhopsthe3rd
"Grace Period" is very subjective. Some people or comedians have different take on humor and on how long something should wait to joke about
buzzedouttechguy
In theory, absolutely. In practice... well... people get offended, then self righteous, then social media gets involved... you know the rest
zeroofshadow
good thing the phrase "police what you intake" exists, its your job to avoid things that bothers you, not others.
WhiskersVonHoppyhopsthe3rd
The way Patrice O'Neal put was that half of the people should be horrified, half should be laughing. That's how comedy is.
buzzedouttechguy
It's usually the ones left behind by someone who committed suicide that can't joke about it. The grief clouds their perspective of the joke.
chewtoythebrave
Not only grief, but guilt is almost always associated with being left behind. That makes it hard to find humor for sure.
kissmyash
I can to some extent. When they say its the cowardly way out i want to throat punch them. My gpa was no coward
chronomondm
So? I think your grief is much less important than my emotional well-being. Or do you think your feewings are more important than my life?
chronomondm
For clarification, i agree with OP, and I am someone who previously attempted suicide and still struggles with ideation.
remycrane
I think you can think it's fun to talk about and someone else can disagree and you can both move the fuck on
WormFarm
Mental health workers too. I can't joke about it because it's a reality each day at work.
diamondsearcher
Yeah I feel. I joke about it, but in a serious way that makes people uncomfortable. But actual haha jokes I can't really get behind.
Someguyonatree
Yeah my gf lost her brother and cannot deal with talking about it very well or seeing movies/shows where it happens
theonewhereicouldntthinkofausername
I think those people don't realize how selfish that person was being. Yes they have feels but never their fault.
ChihuahuaCommander
I lost my mom to suicide. I can't joke about it, but I can laugh at other people's jokes! Still brings uo rough memories though.
WineWomenAndSong
Same goes for cancer. Lost my dad to it. I don't stop people from making cancer jokes, but I rather dislike them myself.
AsianNagger
Then doesn't that mean we should joke about it even more because they need to be reminded that its not their fault?
idislikecomingupwithuniqueusernames
That's not how that works unfortunately.
YoullBePerfectWhenYoureDead
Not by that logic because it assumes so much.
SirSparblington
I can't joke about it. I lost my brother.
ArdentSlacker
I've lost a lot... but then I tell someone and they point to it on the shelf I swear I searched.
awildcharmander
I can joke about it, but this could have been *my* brother making this comment :/
c0ppert0p
I lost my brother and have been diagnosed with severe depression and anxiety. Laughter is the best cure for everything.
SirSparblington
I'm sorry to hear you lost your bro I know how much it sucks.
buzzedouttechguy
I'm sorry for your loss. I do have a hypothetical question if you're willing. Let's say we're at a comedy club where the comedian tells a
buzzedouttechguy
suicide joke. Obviously he doesn't know you or your situation. Let's say the rest of his set was pure gold and you found everything funny up
buzzedouttechguy
to that point. Does it completely ruin your experience with this comedian? Is it his fault for telling the joke even though he doesn't know
buzzedouttechguy
you lost your brother? I mean no offense and don't wish to start a fight. I'm just interested in your perspective if you're willing to share
neospor1n
thats mostly the way it is. rape jokes not funny to rape victims, racist not funny to blacks, cooking jokes not funny to jews.
darksamus8
Nobody else read your entire comment. I did. +1
BlakeTortilla
I dunno. I have a good friend who was a rape survivor and we use to make rape jokes all the time.
buzzedouttechguy
It's all in how you process the material. I have a friend who killed himself. When I see a good suicide joke, I know it's not making fun of
buzzedouttechguy
my particular experience, but the concept in general. It can still be funny if your a "victim" of something. You just have to separate your
buzzedouttechguy
personal experience from the comedy material. It's not like the comedian has a biography of everyone they're telling a joke to.
SirSparblington
As long as you don't kill yourself laughing ....