Oct 3, 2016 10:50 PM
Erfantastic
159612
5688
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beaubrent
Conquest victory.
TheShiftyEyedDog
One of the coolest/most interesting graphics I've seen! I love maps
Maniacattack15
Mexico : Hey! Texas isn't that big! USA: Yes it is.
circlebreaker
http://imgur.com/92IghEQ
CookiesAndKetchup
I like how Mexico just gets shoved out
GenerallyKenobi
At least they were recognized as a people
TOTOAFRICA
The unorganized territory and my life have a lot in common
brothroater
https://media2.giphy.com/media/12SBwtRR9BnWg/giphy.gif
MundaneFinality
Cynthia used to drink slurm...
VelociraptorStalin
Damn, manifest destiny moved fast.
RufusTheAardvark
Too fast to get out of its way.
YouCanHateMeNow
Guns will do that
ShitsNGiggelz
Jesus, too.
Flyndaran
Louisiana purchase aka when White Americans bought Native American land from the White French. lol
.... to fund a war in Europe.
CatSnakePlissken
For that brief time in 1836, Michigan was a great border empire.
SuedeRobinson
NOTsoOrderlyConduct
Thanks Captain Puerto Rico
HEXADECIMAL
Why did we stop taking/buying land? We could purchase western canada, for example, just enough for a road
pugs911
Or we could just buy Alaska
AntonioStark
We (the world) haven't. But it's cheaper to not and just have agreements with neighboring countries
Fucking try it you American pig-dogs
mynameisnotalice
Watching Hawaiʻi is a little heart-breaking.
iPostDogs
I can assure you that Illinois is still Unorganised Territory.
muscletank
the deliberate removal of indigenous*
Flyersfan315
Geeez go cry more
maybe i will
RaptorClawBR
Legend goes that Russia had claims all the way to modern California for a time.
TheSacrificialButter
I can't think of any great nations less able to back up oversea claims in that time period.
im2short2die
You should have Utah be disputed at first because the Mormons originally wanted it to be called Deseret and be its own territory.
CyberAkuma
Must have been impossible to have an up to date map in the first 20 years of the 1800s.
Papakeecha
Lmao what if Russian held on to Alaska
Russia*
BilHam
Where did Kentucky go???
WhooshWhooshWhoosh
Where did you come from cotton Eye Joe
skerrymeister
This is actually still inaccurate. It completely ignores Jay's Treaty. I realize you think you've accounted for Jay's Treaty, but;
As someone from part of the land ceded to the US in Jay's Treaty, you did not properly account for Jay's Treaty.
In other words, BACK TO RUSSIA WITH YOUR REVISIONIST HISTORY!
MoistenedAnus
Slower, you slut.
steelcityfanatic
More slowlier
danield27
I demand a 1 gif second = 1 historical second version.
mokisaur
I would like to see a world version of this, too.
heffalumpisbetterthannone
if they did one of the continent of Africa my vertigo would come back
ThisAccountisforvoting
Damn! Louisiana lost weight. You lookin' good girl what up?
TehButternaut
Crazy to think my parent's house was built before several states were still territories.
While*
nandecatur
Technically Virginia is a commonwealth. I don't actually know what that means.
It means state.
idontgiveadan
It means they have a settlement system there
Dowtchaboy
Fun fact from a foreigner: US has only 46 States. Other 4 are Commonwealths: Massachusetts, Pennsylvania, Virginia, Kentucky.
chbarts
They're all still states.
KY has another peculiarity: part of it is cut off from the rest of the commonwealth/state by MO and TN (Kentucky Bend)
OSCgal
(We have 2 commonwealths which aren't states: Puerto Rico & the Northern Mariana Islands. They're territories. It's complicated.)
"Commonwealth" is how they're organized, "state" is their political/legal status under the US federal government. I.e. they are both.
rdado
EVEN SLOWER
TheBIFFALLO87
If you enjoy this. Check out "How the States Got Their Shapes" with Brian Unger on History Channel. My favorite show.
bombpopbobby
.
sirkickass77
AvinKonfirmed
myteetharedryyyyy
love that fucking show.
iSayMeanThingsSometimesSorry
Today I learned Missouri didn't get Trump hair until 1838.
thebigxcat
Phaseronfry1
And also check out him laughing at Zach Galifiniakas' brother character on his stand up special. "It's always been fugees and funions".
Yessssss. We had to watch that part at least five times. So funny. "On NPR? To me it's a bunch of junk.".
jimbob1
I met him outside a restaurant once while they were filming near where I lived. Nice guy. I felt I came off like a douche though.
I probably would've call him the Jew lawyer and been super awkward.
My friend went nuts when he noticed it was Reading Ron.
IActuallyLikeSalad
Rivers, in a lot of places.
Not exactly. There's a little more to it.
Whozdatgrl
I loved that show. They never talked about my state, though. But to be fair, no one ever talks about Nebraska.
Being born and living in Kansas for a while, can relate. Now I live in the home of Thomas Jefferson, all the history and tourists..
Which is a shame. There's some interesting stuff about Nebraska's statehood: the Kansas-Nebraska Act and the fight over who gets to be 1/2
the capital. (Ending when the state seal was smuggled out of Omaha and into Lincoln!) 2/2
gandraw
"we took what was left over in the center and made a state out of that, there was no other shape it could take"
thisusernameisnotthesameasyours
I enjoyed this
Glad you are! :)
Mderms
I wonder why California just kinda pops in out of nowhere when all the states kinda crawled east to west.
eagerophiuchus
gold
SomethingWittyIDK
San Fransisco was a strategic harbor to hold, also gold
ClitKicker87
Time travelers told them that in-n-out was bangin
IsThisTheFrontPage
"Unclaimed territory"
deOliveira
lol
crustycrust
Historian shudder
axeypants
If you're going off the fact that native Americans were there it makes the whole gif pointless
watchmang
Unreal
Claimed here meaning "if I want this land, who do I need to go declare war with or sign a treaty with?" "No one? Well then it isnt claimed."
MrKristy
Have you never heard of the Native Americans before?
FridayNightRamen
Rupert's Land
MarcusLepidus
Sh sh sh we don't talk about that, the land was uninhabited. Totally.
dubbelu
From sea to shining sea.
blurgh
Its only a holocaust if theres anyone left to tell about it
Genocide* and im pretty sure there are some natives around here somewhere...shit, where did we put them....
thedownlowe
They didn't claim it... that's why white man did.
WubbaLubbaDubbDub
If aliens came would they consider us not claiming this earth because their technology wipes us out?
NotACanadian
Historian...senses...tingling...must...hit...Alarm of Wrongness...on...snooze.
damspam
Holy shit... I had no idea this mindset still existed until reading these comments on imgur. Fuck, dude. Just... fuck.
dassemultor
"Hey it doesn't count if we didn't know! It's not legit!" Jesus.
Gibramovic
They did, thousands of years before but they weren't white so it doesn't count
Begotten
nobody else in the world was aware of it to recognize it, that's why it didn't count
Im %100 certain it had less to donwith the color of their skin, and everything to do with technological and cultural differences.
JohnnyTitelips
Get out of here with your logic and rationality. This is Imgur, the Tumblr of images!
Same with the "Doctrine of Discovery"
Yes the main difference was that their culture was not very civilized because... they weren't white.
Well thats a rather racist lense to see it through. I'd say it has more to do with their geographic location and the necessities they did //
Ever heard of "Terra Nullius?"some European countries decided if there were no Europeans on the land then it was empty and could "claim" it.
Not all white people are of European descent.
RationalDiscourse
So should we just give virtually every other civilized country... actually, most major societies, a pass? Few didn't conquer and conquest...
PerhapsAnotherPerspective
Well, at the very least we should recognize that what we took wasn't "unclaimed territory."
It was absolutely unclaimed territory. That doesn't legitimize the early us's actions, but there was no major government claiming to own //
// the land. Yes, people lived there, but it wasn't claimed by them. As in, there was no state backing their claim. Unclaimed != uninhabited
While they certainly don't meet the specific criteria for the modern nation-state, to suggest that native tribal organizations lacked all 1/
You're not wrong, and I'm not saying it's pretty, but it's happened during virtually every stage of human existence.
Oh, and I'm 100% there with you on that one (happened throughout history, etc.)- I'd just prefer we call it like it is.
I agree. I don't know anyone rational/intelligent I'd associate w/ who doesn't recognize the fact that's we had to conquered to get here.
WLAFadeaway
Do you have a flag?
orbobb
no flag no country.
DanglingNuts
I understood that reference.
SarcasticComment
"Totem poles and animal skins do not count as flags."
ninaclark
Many tribal nations did have flags.
Gawky
not enough and in to small tribes to be effective
beaubrent
Conquest victory.
TheShiftyEyedDog
One of the coolest/most interesting graphics I've seen! I love maps
Maniacattack15
Mexico : Hey! Texas isn't that big! USA: Yes it is.
circlebreaker
http://imgur.com/92IghEQ
CookiesAndKetchup
I like how Mexico just gets shoved out
GenerallyKenobi
At least they were recognized as a people
TOTOAFRICA
The unorganized territory and my life have a lot in common
brothroater
https://media2.giphy.com/media/12SBwtRR9BnWg/giphy.gif
MundaneFinality
Cynthia used to drink slurm...
VelociraptorStalin
Damn, manifest destiny moved fast.
RufusTheAardvark
Too fast to get out of its way.
YouCanHateMeNow
Guns will do that
ShitsNGiggelz
Jesus, too.
Flyndaran
Louisiana purchase aka when White Americans bought Native American land from the White French. lol
ShitsNGiggelz
.... to fund a war in Europe.
CatSnakePlissken
For that brief time in 1836, Michigan was a great border empire.
SuedeRobinson
NOTsoOrderlyConduct
Thanks Captain Puerto Rico
HEXADECIMAL
Why did we stop taking/buying land? We could purchase western canada, for example, just enough for a road
pugs911
Or we could just buy Alaska
AntonioStark
We (the world) haven't. But it's cheaper to not and just have agreements with neighboring countries
GenerallyKenobi
Fucking try it you American pig-dogs
mynameisnotalice
Watching Hawaiʻi is a little heart-breaking.
iPostDogs
I can assure you that Illinois is still Unorganised Territory.
muscletank
the deliberate removal of indigenous*
Flyersfan315
Geeez go cry more
muscletank
maybe i will
RaptorClawBR
Legend goes that Russia had claims all the way to modern California for a time.
TheSacrificialButter
I can't think of any great nations less able to back up oversea claims in that time period.
im2short2die
You should have Utah be disputed at first because the Mormons originally wanted it to be called Deseret and be its own territory.
CyberAkuma
Must have been impossible to have an up to date map in the first 20 years of the 1800s.
Papakeecha
Lmao what if Russian held on to Alaska
Papakeecha
Russia*
BilHam
Where did Kentucky go???
WhooshWhooshWhoosh
Where did you come from cotton Eye Joe
skerrymeister
This is actually still inaccurate. It completely ignores Jay's Treaty. I realize you think you've accounted for Jay's Treaty, but;
skerrymeister
As someone from part of the land ceded to the US in Jay's Treaty, you did not properly account for Jay's Treaty.
skerrymeister
In other words, BACK TO RUSSIA WITH YOUR REVISIONIST HISTORY!
MoistenedAnus
Slower, you slut.
steelcityfanatic
More slowlier
danield27
I demand a 1 gif second = 1 historical second version.
mokisaur
I would like to see a world version of this, too.
heffalumpisbetterthannone
if they did one of the continent of Africa my vertigo would come back
ThisAccountisforvoting
Damn! Louisiana lost weight. You lookin' good girl what up?
TehButternaut
Crazy to think my parent's house was built before several states were still territories.
TehButternaut
While*
nandecatur
Technically Virginia is a commonwealth. I don't actually know what that means.
MundaneFinality
It means state.
idontgiveadan
It means they have a settlement system there
Dowtchaboy
Fun fact from a foreigner: US has only 46 States. Other 4 are Commonwealths: Massachusetts, Pennsylvania, Virginia, Kentucky.
chbarts
They're all still states.
Dowtchaboy
KY has another peculiarity: part of it is cut off from the rest of the commonwealth/state by MO and TN (Kentucky Bend)
OSCgal
(We have 2 commonwealths which aren't states: Puerto Rico & the Northern Mariana Islands. They're territories. It's complicated.)
OSCgal
"Commonwealth" is how they're organized, "state" is their political/legal status under the US federal government. I.e. they are both.
rdado
EVEN SLOWER
TheBIFFALLO87
If you enjoy this. Check out "How the States Got Their Shapes" with Brian Unger on History Channel. My favorite show.
bombpopbobby
.
sirkickass77
.
AvinKonfirmed
.
myteetharedryyyyy
love that fucking show.
iSayMeanThingsSometimesSorry
Today I learned Missouri didn't get Trump hair until 1838.
thebigxcat
.
Phaseronfry1
And also check out him laughing at Zach Galifiniakas' brother character on his stand up special. "It's always been fugees and funions".
TheBIFFALLO87
Yessssss. We had to watch that part at least five times. So funny. "On NPR? To me it's a bunch of junk.".
jimbob1
I met him outside a restaurant once while they were filming near where I lived. Nice guy. I felt I came off like a douche though.
TheBIFFALLO87
I probably would've call him the Jew lawyer and been super awkward.
jimbob1
My friend went nuts when he noticed it was Reading Ron.
IActuallyLikeSalad
Rivers, in a lot of places.
TheBIFFALLO87
Not exactly. There's a little more to it.
Whozdatgrl
I loved that show. They never talked about my state, though. But to be fair, no one ever talks about Nebraska.
TheBIFFALLO87
Being born and living in Kansas for a while, can relate. Now I live in the home of Thomas Jefferson, all the history and tourists..
OSCgal
Which is a shame. There's some interesting stuff about Nebraska's statehood: the Kansas-Nebraska Act and the fight over who gets to be 1/2
OSCgal
the capital. (Ending when the state seal was smuggled out of Omaha and into Lincoln!) 2/2
gandraw
"we took what was left over in the center and made a state out of that, there was no other shape it could take"
thisusernameisnotthesameasyours
I enjoyed this
Erfantastic
Glad you are! :)
Mderms
I wonder why California just kinda pops in out of nowhere when all the states kinda crawled east to west.
eagerophiuchus
gold
SomethingWittyIDK
San Fransisco was a strategic harbor to hold, also gold
ClitKicker87
Time travelers told them that in-n-out was bangin
IsThisTheFrontPage
"Unclaimed territory"
deOliveira
lol
crustycrust
Historian shudder
axeypants
If you're going off the fact that native Americans were there it makes the whole gif pointless
watchmang
Unreal
MundaneFinality
Claimed here meaning "if I want this land, who do I need to go declare war with or sign a treaty with?" "No one? Well then it isnt claimed."
MrKristy
Have you never heard of the Native Americans before?
FridayNightRamen
Rupert's Land
MarcusLepidus
Sh sh sh we don't talk about that, the land was uninhabited. Totally.
dubbelu
From sea to shining sea.
blurgh
Its only a holocaust if theres anyone left to tell about it
GenerallyKenobi
Genocide* and im pretty sure there are some natives around here somewhere...shit, where did we put them....
thedownlowe
They didn't claim it... that's why white man did.
WubbaLubbaDubbDub
If aliens came would they consider us not claiming this earth because their technology wipes us out?
NotACanadian
Historian...senses...tingling...must...hit...Alarm of Wrongness...on...snooze.
damspam
Holy shit... I had no idea this mindset still existed until reading these comments on imgur. Fuck, dude. Just... fuck.
dassemultor
"Hey it doesn't count if we didn't know! It's not legit!" Jesus.
Gibramovic
They did, thousands of years before but they weren't white so it doesn't count
Begotten
nobody else in the world was aware of it to recognize it, that's why it didn't count
MundaneFinality
Im %100 certain it had less to donwith the color of their skin, and everything to do with technological and cultural differences.
JohnnyTitelips
Get out of here with your logic and rationality. This is Imgur, the Tumblr of images!
MrKristy
Same with the "Doctrine of Discovery"
Gibramovic
Yes the main difference was that their culture was not very civilized because... they weren't white.
MundaneFinality
Well thats a rather racist lense to see it through. I'd say it has more to do with their geographic location and the necessities they did //
MrKristy
Ever heard of "Terra Nullius?"some European countries decided if there were no Europeans on the land then it was empty and could "claim" it.
JohnnyTitelips
Not all white people are of European descent.
RationalDiscourse
So should we just give virtually every other civilized country... actually, most major societies, a pass? Few didn't conquer and conquest...
PerhapsAnotherPerspective
Well, at the very least we should recognize that what we took wasn't "unclaimed territory."
MundaneFinality
It was absolutely unclaimed territory. That doesn't legitimize the early us's actions, but there was no major government claiming to own //
MundaneFinality
// the land. Yes, people lived there, but it wasn't claimed by them. As in, there was no state backing their claim. Unclaimed != uninhabited
PerhapsAnotherPerspective
While they certainly don't meet the specific criteria for the modern nation-state, to suggest that native tribal organizations lacked all 1/
RationalDiscourse
You're not wrong, and I'm not saying it's pretty, but it's happened during virtually every stage of human existence.
PerhapsAnotherPerspective
Oh, and I'm 100% there with you on that one (happened throughout history, etc.)- I'd just prefer we call it like it is.
RationalDiscourse
I agree. I don't know anyone rational/intelligent I'd associate w/ who doesn't recognize the fact that's we had to conquered to get here.
WLAFadeaway
Do you have a flag?
orbobb
no flag no country.
DanglingNuts
I understood that reference.
SarcasticComment
"Totem poles and animal skins do not count as flags."
ninaclark
Many tribal nations did have flags.
Gawky
not enough and in to small tribes to be effective