Everything in moderation. Too much of anything is bad for you. Anyone who tells you what not to eat rather than what you should eat and how much is just trying to scam you into buying whatever they are selling.
You should eat like a caveman, don't cook anything. Because people who just figured out how to bang rocks together to make pointier rocks were living healthy.
I eat whatever I want. Some days my body bitchslaps me for it. Most days it’s just hunky dory. Woot woot. I mean, i get exercise, too, though, so there’s that.
1. At least half of these are bullshit anyway 2. Even if they weren't, have these people never heard of "moderation"? Like, no shit, you can't live off of fruits exclusively, but you should still eat some fucking fruit throughout the day!
Medical industry in the US is $3.2T per year. Health and wellness industry is $6.4T. they are the real scammers trying to keep you sick to sell you their crystals.
Oh NO, this contains an acid! This process does this process in your body that creates dihydrogen monoxide, a chemical found in formaldehyde!!! Scary words make uneducated brains panic, panic drives diet and sales.
Research, know your body and what you put into it. If green tea clears up your skin and makes you feel good, GOOD. If oatmeal makes you poop and gives you nutrients, GOOD.
FOOD IS GOOD. FOOD SCIENCE IS GOOD. Food Influencers belong in the garbage with the scraps and food bibles.
The only advice you should take in regards to nutrition is an actual nutritionist. These people are paid to make YOU healthy, not to sell crap from corporations.
Doctors are a good second option. If they tell you to stay away from something, usually they have a pretty good reason.
Steal recipes off of social media, but never listen to them in regards of health. You will get hurt, and they will just laugh at you. If your body complains, LISTEN TO IT. IT KNOWS MORE THAN YOU DO.
I'd be real careful about a doctor telling you to eat something specific at least in the US, a lot of them get compensation for recommending specific brands of diet shakes or nutrient supplements. and if one tells you *not* to eat something (esp. if it sounds weird to you) there's a nonzero chance they're a cultist of one variety or another and are completely full of shit better than nothing, but verify the advice
ask for studies or the reference they're using for the advice... a good MD or DO has that handy because either they looked it up recently or they know it from giving the same advice so often, and they'll be thrilled to share with someone interested. Bad ones have their 'one true study' that 'casts light on the mistakes of the establishment', or they get pissed that you'd dare question them. Either are warning signs.
Humans got successful by roaming from biome to biome and eating everything we could get our grubby little hands on. The key appears to be variety. Not too much of any one thing, but lots of varied sugars, fats, carbs & proteins.
Unfortunately, I live in the U.S., where I'm sure we'll be paying $30 per serving of Soylent Soma or something like that, made of dehydrated corn syrup, sawdust, and just a few milligrams of Diazepam or something like that to keep us calm while we earn $7.25 an hour.
Been eating crap, drinking booze, all my life, never really exercise. Just had a check-up. All my numbers are spot on. Pisses my gf off. Can't help it, it's my genes.
hail hydrate and jobs that keep you moving? my SO gets mad that I can eat an entire large pizza or obscene amounts of candy and stay reasonably-sized... 10% more calories than normal and they put on weight like crazy
There's this commercial I'm constantly seeing the first 10 seconds of on YT where they say to be healthy you should add butter to your smoothie and then shows someone dumping TWO WHOLE STICKS OF BUTTER into a blender with some fruit. No idea what they're trying to sell bc I refuse to humor them with my attention. One might think the obvs answer is "butter," but fake science is never that simple.
Don't do this. He's trying to cleverly murder you without personally doing the murdering. Is this the type of person you want to murder you? A coward who can't even do it himself?
If anyone wants to really educate themselves about nutrition. Look for "Udo Pollmer". I was not able to find books translated to english on the fly, but he is the guy setting you straight. Making you understand not only which myths (almost all of them) are wrong, but also why. He was the head of the european food agency for a couple of years.
Most influencers are peddling some kind of nutritional supplement, so step one is to make you question what it is you normally eat, step two sell you some dumb shit.
I follow this nutrition guy on YouTube that had videos going deep into various things related to food and health. Turns out he's an actual PhD doctor and looks at studies and research, and he actually provides links to the sources, and goes over why they are good or questionable by showing the data and what's missing or misleading... So, I believe him more than people that talk like infomercials. Also, he references his books, but doesn't really push certain diets or foods.
Approximately 100% of the time, it's a grift to peddle some stupid-ass product or some generic "course" that will at best provide you with nothing you couldn't have gotten from a few minutes of googling or at worst, give you more shit health advice.
So like your blood sugar spikes with almost everything you eat, that's part of your body taking in carbs to use as fuel... It's only a big deal if you don't do anything with that fuel or you're diabetic...
Yes, though it matters with some foods: part of the reason refined sugar is harmful is because it spikes your blood sugar, and through insulin response makes you hungry again very quickly. The reason regular foods - like porridge - aren’t unhealthy is because they have actual nutrients, and actual substance, so they make you feel full and get digested more slowly for every (as in, as you describe above, how food is supposed to work…)
I’m physically active enough that I eat about the same, and whatever else I want, and I’m losing weight. While physical activity is not the only thing important to losing weight, it is a big part of it, in my experience.
Yeah, I got home and plowed through a Mac n cheese and a whole bunch of nuggets. Realized I hadn’t really eaten all day and figure that’s probably some version of balance.
Stop listening to "Nutritionists". Start listening to Dieticians. If you have *any* opinion on something food based you can call yourself a *Nutritionist*. In order to call yourself a dietician you have to have a masters degree and complete continuing education to keep your RDN registration.
"Nutritionist" means literally nothing for qualifications.
"Dietician" means the person is an expert in the actual science of nutrient absorption
The second someone has a product like a guide or a supplement to sell in the description you should stop listening to anyone. The supplement industry is one of the biggest scams out there. There is 0 regulation
that's arguing from survivorship bias most people that ate like that died of heart attacks in their 60s or cancer a little later same for the centenarians that smoked That said, diet advice is bullshit. All of it. Every last fucking one of them are full of shit except for the one that said 'eat food, not too much, mostly plants'.
Yeah. I go out of my way to choose healthy things above the average american. I still ended up with liver issues by 30. Meanwhile i watch people twice as old put down bags of chips and fast food daily. Or are out drinking still. + smoking cigs. Sometimes we got good cards, sometimes shit ones.
The whole reason it was fed to peasants and we still eat it today it because it is highly nutritious, sustainable and cheap to grow and easy to prepare.
kinda, yeah barley's a bettter crop for that purpose, much more productive, complete source of amino acids, etc., hence 'daily bread', although barley porridge was a thing. horses love oats though, and ye olde feudal peasants often grew oats as their lord's share. modern barley's kinda crap compared to modern wheat (with oats left way in the dust), but pre green revolution that was not the case
It is there are even studies that proofed that people that drink milk daily can have even Wecker bones. Milk is for groth and only for groth, therw is no animal that gives milk naturally non stop... and a huge part of the Population is Lactose intolerant....
There's always one of those as an ad on YouTube but not in another video. It hides as its own video in the recommended. At least on video game consoles.
Dunno. It was made big through huge media campaign after WWII. bad start. Then I think its right the phosphate in it steals calcium from your bones, not add. Thats why some older studies I know draw a connection between osteoporosis in countries with high milk intake being higher than in others. Also I really think breast milk is made for babies (it literally changes to meet the needs of the newest baby), in this case for babies with several stomachs. If anything it is a food. But for adults, no
Im not quite sure if I should discuss that with an US audience. You a scientist or otherwise highly educated? Its not as if professionals cannot also be wrong. And as soon as huge power stakeholders are involved it gets messy. I know they do but they also say you need to eat fish for iodine and thats bull. Fish also get it from algae. Dunno if you know but nutritional science is a relatively new science with mayor changes every decade or so. The guidelines of large groups are slow to update..
So... Milk having been a staple where I live since just after the ice sheets withdrew doesn't count, then?
And before that, North Africa was desertified partially through the introduction and prolific breeding of goats, by humans. And I don't think you want to suggest that those goats weren't milked from time to time.
It's a renewable resource. Basically free food. So obviously it has been exploited to at least some extent just about everywhere.
You have not debunked a single one of my arguments. Its irrelevant if "it counts" or not. What shall this even mean, count for what? Natural food? Great, just what I said. We are smart & possibilities have changed, we can adapt and optimise. What do you wanna say with the goat thing? Yes you're right, yes they drank, so what, still no debunk? But absolutely no way ever are products of factory farming in any way sustainable, let alone "renewable resources".
The absurd suggestion was made that drinking milk "became big after the second world war". That is what I am addressing.
It may be true, to a certain extent, for the insular denizens of north America, but, as everyone else keeps having to remind them, the world is bigger and older than they are.
The phytic acid argument is *technically* true~ish, bc it binds to certain nutrients and reduces absorbtion. But the severity of whats potentially happening is thousands of times smaller than those people make it seem. Oatmeal is still a huge net positive nutrient source and has no negative effects, maybe some people in specific situations aside.
oatmeal has beta-glucan, a type of soluble fiber found in oats, plays a key role in reducing cholesterol levels. beta-glucan forms a gel-like substance in the digestive tract that traps bile acids, which are produced from cholesterol in the liver. These trapped bile acids are then excreted in the feces, forcing the liver to use more cholesterol from the bloodstream to produce new bile acids, thereby lowering circulating cholesterol levels.
yes, I take it over wheat any day. Also available as oat bran, for people that want to cut back on the starch but not on the fiber. And well, it doesn't have gluten, which matters for some people, too.
Yeah thats plain wrong. In fact, beta-glucane, which is one of the polysaccharides (long carbs) in oatmeal even has a positive effect on blood glucose levels and insulin secretion and can be an active part in diabetes therapy. Then again, there are people that claim that you ONLY need to eat a bowl of oatmeal a day to cure diabetes, which is equally dumb.
It binds to certainminerals. It binds to iron, zinc and calcium, which makes them LESS absorbable (but they are still absorbed). However, its a too antioxidant, it can help prevent kidney stones as well. ALSO you can mitigate the effects but soaking, cooking or just having enough Vitamin C in your diet. So yeah just.. don't eat ONLY oatmeal and you'll be fine
there is fairly solid evidence that oats reduce the risk of heart disease if there was some serious negative effect of an oat-rich diet, that series of studies would have picked it up and it would have made massive headlines
The phytic acid reduces (but does not eliminate) the absorption of zinc, iron and calcium. But it helps with antioxidant properties and kidney stone prevention. Also you can reduce its negative effects by consuming enough vitamin C, or soaking or cooking anything with phytic acid, its entirely another made up problem
made-up problems, made-up solutions and made-up study results are what powers the bullshit engine underlying 99% of dietary advice online that and profits I'd imagine the effects are irrelevant to those eating a balanced diet, as the affected metals would be available at lunch and dinner where oats are far less common man, now I want oatbread toast
My favorite answer to anyone who claims their diet is magic is to ask for longevity data. Aside from obvious poisons like arsenic, humans all live about the same length, most effectively extended by being able to work indoors and have access to doctors, regardless of diet. Eat what you enjoy; find some physical activity you enjoy; don't waste time on scolds.
funny coincidence, I had a client tell me exactly that, like two weeks ago. And ofc this is completely true, but then she went on and explained how she prepared 100g of rolled oats with 50g of brown sugar, 1 banana, chocolate drops and a 50:50 mix of cream and milk. Every morning. At least she is a quite positive person and we had a hearty laugh together after disecting the situation
science demands that I reproduce this preparation, but my body refuses that much milk and is willing to do violence to my day if I insist, so n will be quite small
you can substitute the milk for coconut milk if you like that. or there are always lactose free milk and cream. Nothing wrong with a treat, it just shouldn't be a staple 😂
broritos
"When you eat sugar your blood sugar goes up!"
Yeah, no shit. That's supposed to happen.
StellarJay77
Everything in moderation. Too much of anything is bad for you. Anyone who tells you what not to eat rather than what you should eat and how much is just trying to scam you into buying whatever they are selling.
an0therthr0waway
AmazingKS
I’ll enjoy all the fruits, veggies, milk, and any other whole food these morons hate and I feel just fine
FarceMajeure
You should eat like a caveman, don't cook anything. Because people who just figured out how to bang rocks together to make pointier rocks were living healthy.
FeedTheNachoMan
Social media is just advertising for modern-day Kellogs.
WeeemRCB
Listen to what your body needs and feels good after consuming
charondaboatman
I eat whatever I want. Some days my body bitchslaps me for it. Most days it’s just hunky dory. Woot woot. I mean, i get exercise, too, though, so there’s that.
Sonicschilidogs
1. At least half of these are bullshit anyway 2. Even if they weren't, have these people never heard of "moderation"? Like, no shit, you can't live off of fruits exclusively, but you should still eat some fucking fruit throughout the day!
SacrificialClam
Food raising my blood sugar!?!??!
StellaMatutina
Medical industry in the US is $3.2T per year. Health and wellness industry is $6.4T. they are the real scammers trying to keep you sick to sell you their crystals.
GrowinWildontheFunnyFarm
Oh NO, this contains an acid! This process does this process in your body that creates dihydrogen monoxide, a chemical found in formaldehyde!!! Scary words make uneducated brains panic, panic drives diet and sales.
Research, know your body and what you put into it. If green tea clears up your skin and makes you feel good, GOOD. If oatmeal makes you poop and gives you nutrients, GOOD.
FOOD IS GOOD. FOOD SCIENCE IS GOOD. Food Influencers belong in the garbage with the scraps and food bibles.
MightyUrto
Ignore the food morons on social media. They're all wrong and pretty toxic
FaerieWalnut
*angrily puts down my food moron sandwich*
IrrelevantIrrelevant
The only advice you should take in regards to nutrition is an actual nutritionist. These people are paid to make YOU healthy, not to sell crap from corporations.
Doctors are a good second option. If they tell you to stay away from something, usually they have a pretty good reason.
Steal recipes off of social media, but never listen to them in regards of health. You will get hurt, and they will just laugh at you. If your body complains, LISTEN TO IT. IT KNOWS MORE THAN YOU DO.
phobosorbust
I'd be real careful about a doctor telling you to eat something specific
at least in the US, a lot of them get compensation for recommending specific brands of diet shakes or nutrient supplements.
and if one tells you *not* to eat something (esp. if it sounds weird to you) there's a nonzero chance they're a cultist of one variety or another and are completely full of shit
better than nothing, but verify the advice
phobosorbust
ask for studies or the reference they're using for the advice... a good MD or DO has that handy because either they looked it up recently or they know it from giving the same advice so often, and they'll be thrilled to share with someone interested. Bad ones have their 'one true study' that 'casts light on the mistakes of the establishment', or they get pissed that you'd dare question them. Either are warning signs.
or0b0ur0s
Humans got successful by roaming from biome to biome and eating everything we could get our grubby little hands on. The key appears to be variety. Not too much of any one thing, but lots of varied sugars, fats, carbs & proteins.
Unfortunately, I live in the U.S., where I'm sure we'll be paying $30 per serving of Soylent Soma or something like that, made of dehydrated corn syrup, sawdust, and just a few milligrams of Diazepam or something like that to keep us calm while we earn $7.25 an hour.
glovelyday
Been eating crap, drinking booze, all my life, never really exercise. Just had a check-up. All my numbers are spot on. Pisses my gf off. Can't help it, it's my genes.
phobosorbust
hail hydrate and jobs that keep you moving?
my SO gets mad that I can eat an entire large pizza or obscene amounts of candy and stay reasonably-sized... 10% more calories than normal and they put on weight like crazy
BladeTurMoiL
Used to be prior, now i gain weight like a sponge soaking up water. Weee
woozle
mikeatike
kittyfajitas
There's this commercial I'm constantly seeing the first 10 seconds of on YT where they say to be healthy you should add butter to your smoothie and then shows someone dumping TWO WHOLE STICKS OF BUTTER into a blender with some fruit. No idea what they're trying to sell bc I refuse to humor them with my attention. One might think the obvs answer is "butter," but fake science is never that simple.
Sonicschilidogs
They're not selling anything, but they are heavily invested in cholesterol medication and cardiology practices.
kittyfajitas
That makes sense
HistoricalContext
Remember: any idiot can buy a set of scrubs, a lab coat, and a stethoscope and spout lies on the Internet.
toomanymemesandnotenoughmemeory
Don’t eat anything. Ever.
ChiLLeCheeze
Don't do this. He's trying to cleverly murder you without personally doing the murdering. Is this the type of person you want to murder you? A coward who can't even do it himself?
ThankYouForYourTime
Air. Air is poison. Think about it, you breathe it in and if you hold it in too long, your body makes you blow it out.
Tolocamp
If anyone wants to really educate themselves about nutrition. Look for "Udo Pollmer". I was not able to find books translated to english on the fly, but he is the guy setting you straight. Making you understand not only which myths (almost all of them) are wrong, but also why.
He was the head of the european food agency for a couple of years.
Like2Fox
Most influencers are peddling some kind of nutritional supplement, so step one is to make you question what it is you normally eat, step two sell you some dumb shit.
thotterpop
I follow this nutrition guy on YouTube that had videos going deep into various things related to food and health. Turns out he's an actual PhD doctor and looks at studies and research, and he actually provides links to the sources, and goes over why they are good or questionable by showing the data and what's missing or misleading... So, I believe him more than people that talk like infomercials. Also, he references his books, but doesn't really push certain diets or foods.
Cataleast
^ Thiiiis!
Approximately 100% of the time, it's a grift to peddle some stupid-ass product or some generic "course" that will at best provide you with nothing you couldn't have gotten from a few minutes of googling or at worst, give you more shit health advice.
Randomice
Clearly the only thing you should consume is coffee.
toomanymemesandnotenoughmemeory
Cheers
andexer
And alcohol! It's like bleach for your insides!
geekyfarmer
And eggshells. Evidently, the shells are fine.
Luvlyquants
& blueberries & Protein shakes & breakfast food & pancakes. :)
PlaceHolderTitle
The news reported on a high level FDA Blueberry Recall this week due to Listeria soooo No blueberries sorry.
Randomice
Hmm...I'll give you blueberry pancakes.
mezzomike
https://media4.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTY1YjkxZmJlMDBuY3VtM2txdzhsZXlodmlrbWtsNGQ1dGhpZ2hzaG0xbnhtZHRnNiZlcD12MV9naWZzX3NlYXJjaCZjdD1n/6UFgdU9hirj1pAOJyN/giphy.mp4
AgamemnonsMemes
too much water
KainLamond
So like your blood sugar spikes with almost everything you eat, that's part of your body taking in carbs to use as fuel... It's only a big deal if you don't do anything with that fuel or you're diabetic...
mynamespaul
Yes, though it matters with some foods: part of the reason refined sugar is harmful is because it spikes your blood sugar, and through insulin response makes you hungry again very quickly. The reason regular foods - like porridge - aren’t unhealthy is because they have actual nutrients, and actual substance, so they make you feel full and get digested more slowly for every (as in, as you describe above, how food is supposed to work…)
Luvlyquants
Thanks! :)
Howlingowl
The fiber content helps slow the body’s absorption of the natural fructose present in fruit
eppykaze
Mean time I just ate 6 hotdogs and about 300g of cheese because being a fat slob is fine some nights
GaiusWydra
I’m physically active enough that I eat about the same, and whatever else I want, and I’m losing weight. While physical activity is not the only thing important to losing weight, it is a big part of it, in my experience.
Lontri
I had 2 grilled cheese sandwiches, 2 pieces of fried halloumi, and a piece of tiramisu not too long ago.
crossfitterRN
Sounds like the perfect night in to me! Let’s get some charcuterie!!! I’ll buy!
thotterpop
If pork chops were perfect, we wouldn't have hotdogs!
mikeatike
None of these guys said anything about hot dogs being bad, so go for it.
eppykaze
They did mention milk and cheese is just specially aged milk
annonymouse211
Sounds delicious not gonna lie
eppykaze
It was, I don't even feel like I over ate so it must have been rather needed.
adamlstf9
Yeah, I got home and plowed through a Mac n cheese and a whole bunch of nuggets. Realized I hadn’t really eaten all day and figure that’s probably some version of balance.
MrFancyPanzer
Yeah, they can fuck right off, especially the carnivore ones.
sturmhauke
I have gout. If I eat too much meat I'll be unable to walk without extreme pain. So that motherfucker can especially shut the fuck up.
simianruler
I have a kidney disease, so I feel you. Too much meat or salt, and I get cysts on my kidneys that swell until they explode.
AgamemnonsMemes
Its always been kind of a joke but the real goal is moderation. Just don't overdo anything.
bewareofgoose
My favorite quote is "Everything in moderation including moderation". It applies to food but also everything else.
NotThePoint
Stop listening to idiots that get paid to be on social media.
Imademyselfsquirtle
Stop listening to morons who are not scientist. Who do no self proven research. Who are not remotely qualified to be a dietician.
GabbyJayYay
*Stop listening to idiots
Luvlyquants
BigEasyZuka
Stop listening to "Nutritionists". Start listening to Dieticians. If you have *any* opinion on something food based you can call yourself a *Nutritionist*. In order to call yourself a dietician you have to have a masters degree and complete continuing education to keep your RDN registration.
"Nutritionist" means literally nothing for qualifications.
"Dietician" means the person is an expert in the actual science of nutrient absorption
BigEasyZuka
Dammit I'm so bad at spelling. Dietitian...
CaptAlbertAlexander
The second someone has a product like a guide or a supplement to sell in the description you should stop listening to anyone. The supplement industry is one of the biggest scams out there. There is 0 regulation
Kennleth
You shouldn't drink water, fish fuck in there. /s
HandoB4Javert
JackDeHearts
https://imgur.com/N917Tp7
NotThePoint
Macetheace50
My Grandfather had a diet of salted Bacon, Bacon fat and beans. He made it to 90+.
He saw wooden ships replaced with coal steamers.
phobosorbust
that's arguing from survivorship bias
most people that ate like that died of heart attacks in their 60s or cancer a little later
same for the centenarians that smoked
That said, diet advice is bullshit. All of it. Every last fucking one of them are full of shit except for the one that said 'eat food, not too much, mostly plants'.
mikeatike
I think its a joke. The sail to coal swichover was in the civil war time frame, about 150 years ago.
phobosorbust
that makes sense. I'm ah... kinda humor-blind and kind of a dick, so thanks for pointing out the more likely explanation.
mikeatike
To be honest I'm only about 51% sure its a joke. There are people thst say shit lile that unironically. Tho usually not on imgur.
BladeTurMoiL
Yeah. I go out of my way to choose healthy things above the average american. I still ended up with liver issues by 30. Meanwhile i watch people twice as old put down bags of chips and fast food daily. Or are out drinking still. + smoking cigs. Sometimes we got good cards, sometimes shit ones.
InfocalypseRising
"oatmeal sucks nutrients out of your body?" THAT IS NOT HOW ANYTHING WORKS
Astral134
Nutrients for the Oatmeal God!
LordLobster
If a person is named oatmeal, they may in fact suck the nutrients out of your body.
PocketCleric
BUT PHYLIC ACID!!!
davemUnderscoreOr
Listening to these vids is sucking IQ points out of my brain.
Snuggelapolous
The whole reason it was fed to peasants and we still eat it today it because it is highly nutritious, sustainable and cheap to grow and easy to prepare.
fake40nedeso
I mean roman legions lived on something similar (puls) and I like to think that they performed – mentally and physically – rather damn well.
phobosorbust
kinda, yeah
barley's a bettter crop for that purpose, much more productive, complete source of amino acids, etc., hence 'daily bread', although barley porridge was a thing.
horses love oats though, and ye olde feudal peasants often grew oats as their lord's share.
modern barley's kinda crap compared to modern wheat (with oats left way in the dust), but pre green revolution that was not the case
BenderRodriguz1010
"Milk. That is the biggest scam on the planet." Lmao
Grinch01
It is there are even studies that proofed that people that drink milk daily can have even Wecker bones. Milk is for groth and only for groth, therw is no animal that gives milk naturally non stop... and a huge part of the Population is Lactose intolerant....
ToasterDent
MadamPuddifoot
I went on a date with a guy who said that milk was poison, despite being an engineer and having no background in healthcare... Yeaaah he sucked.
InfocalypseRising
Health cranks have been saying milk is poison for ages. It's a weirdly persistent one.
FancyFeastAdvocate
Except raw milk, that's okay! /S
BenderRodriguz1010
There's always one of those as an ad on YouTube but not in another video. It hides as its own video in the recommended. At least on video game consoles.
KingXizor
They are just mad that milk is so fuckin' delicious while they are so frickin' bland and tasteless.
Equinox13
I want you to be the opponent of anti-milk people at every debate.
mthrndr01
Allow me to posit the following: milk is disgusting.
Evenmoreuselessname
Counterpoint: No u
KittyKlimt6
Dunno. It was made big through huge media campaign after WWII. bad start. Then I think its right the phosphate in it steals calcium from your bones, not add. Thats why some older studies I know draw a connection between osteoporosis in countries with high milk intake being higher than in others. Also I really think breast milk is made for babies (it literally changes to meet the needs of the newest baby), in this case for babies with several stomachs. If anything it is a food. But for adults, no
PrincessWasabi
That isn’t supported by the American academy of pediatricians lol
Grinch01
Ask yourself why, maybe just maybe it could have somthing to do that the milk Producer finace that "academy"....
KittyKlimt6
Im not quite sure if I should discuss that with an US audience. You a scientist or otherwise highly educated? Its not as if professionals cannot also be wrong. And as soon as huge power stakeholders are involved it gets messy. I know they do but they also say you need to eat fish for iodine and thats bull. Fish also get it from algae.
Dunno if you know but nutritional science is a relatively new science with mayor changes every decade or so. The guidelines of large groups are slow to update..
eggmuffin
So... Milk having been a staple where I live since just after the ice sheets withdrew doesn't count, then?
And before that, North Africa was desertified partially through the introduction and prolific breeding of goats, by humans. And I don't think you want to suggest that those goats weren't milked from time to time.
It's a renewable resource. Basically free food. So obviously it has been exploited to at least some extent just about everywhere.
KittyKlimt6
You have not debunked a single one of my arguments. Its irrelevant if "it counts" or not. What shall this even mean, count for what? Natural food? Great, just what I said. We are smart & possibilities have changed, we can adapt and optimise. What do you wanna say with the goat thing? Yes you're right, yes they drank, so what, still no debunk? But absolutely no way ever are products of factory farming in any way sustainable, let alone "renewable resources".
eggmuffin
The absurd suggestion was made that drinking milk "became big after the second world war". That is what I am addressing.
It may be true, to a certain extent, for the insular denizens of north America, but, as everyone else keeps having to remind them, the world is bigger and older than they are.
JustTryingToHelpDude
The phytic acid argument is *technically* true~ish, bc it binds to certain nutrients and reduces absorbtion. But the severity of whats potentially happening is thousands of times smaller than those people make it seem. Oatmeal is still a huge net positive nutrient source and has no negative effects, maybe some people in specific situations aside.
NotSomoneElse68
Also, Oatmeal improves digestion and regularity. So you absorb more nutrients from your food.
Snooj
Sometimes I'll eat oatmeal every morning when the weather is cold. Oatmeal with raisins in it and some applesauce on top. Keeps me full for hours.
LendLeaseIdentity
I was going to continue to eat oatmeal for breakfast. Glad to know it's not horrible.
IDontUnderstandWhatIsHappening
oatmeal has beta-glucan, a type of soluble fiber found in oats, plays a key role in reducing cholesterol levels. beta-glucan forms a gel-like substance in the digestive tract that traps bile acids, which are produced from cholesterol in the liver.
These trapped bile acids are then excreted in the feces, forcing the liver to use more cholesterol from the bloodstream to produce new bile acids, thereby lowering circulating cholesterol levels.
Ulthirm
isnt it also ya know a great alternative source of fiber that processes fairly decently into your body?
JustTryingToHelpDude
yes, I take it over wheat any day. Also available as oat bran, for people that want to cut back on the starch but not on the fiber. And well, it doesn't have gluten, which matters for some people, too.
Narfwak
saying it "spikes your blood sugar more than ice cream" is so insanely disingenuous that anything else he says is worth ignoring off that alone
JustTryingToHelpDude
Yeah thats plain wrong. In fact, beta-glucane, which is one of the polysaccharides (long carbs) in oatmeal even has a positive effect on blood glucose levels and insulin secretion and can be an active part in diabetes therapy. Then again, there are people that claim that you ONLY need to eat a bowl of oatmeal a day to cure diabetes, which is equally dumb.
AgamemnonsMemes
It binds to certainminerals. It binds to iron, zinc and calcium, which makes them LESS absorbable (but they are still absorbed). However, its a too antioxidant, it can help prevent kidney stones as well. ALSO you can mitigate the effects but soaking, cooking or just having enough Vitamin C in your diet. So yeah just.. don't eat ONLY oatmeal and you'll be fine
Cataleast
Reminded me of rabbit starvation...
xlr82xs
Soaking makes oatmeal healthier ? Wow, the Mormons seem to know what they're doing.
phobosorbust
there is fairly solid evidence that oats reduce the risk of heart disease
if there was some serious negative effect of an oat-rich diet, that series of studies would have picked it up and it would have made massive headlines
AgamemnonsMemes
The phytic acid reduces (but does not eliminate) the absorption of zinc, iron and calcium. But it helps with antioxidant properties and kidney stone prevention. Also you can reduce its negative effects by consuming enough vitamin C, or soaking or cooking anything with phytic acid, its entirely another made up problem
phobosorbust
made-up problems, made-up solutions and made-up study results are what powers the bullshit engine underlying 99% of dietary advice online
that and profits
I'd imagine the effects are irrelevant to those eating a balanced diet, as the affected metals would be available at lunch and dinner where oats are far less common
man, now I want oatbread toast
AgamemnonsMemes
Yeah just don't eat handfulls of raw oats and you'll be fine.
gesel
My favorite answer to anyone who claims their diet is magic is to ask for longevity data. Aside from obvious poisons like arsenic, humans all live about the same length, most effectively extended by being able to work indoors and have access to doctors, regardless of diet. Eat what you enjoy; find some physical activity you enjoy; don't waste time on scolds.
JustTryingToHelpDude
funny coincidence, I had a client tell me exactly that, like two weeks ago. And ofc this is completely true, but then she went on and explained how she prepared 100g of rolled oats with 50g of brown sugar, 1 banana, chocolate drops and a 50:50 mix of cream and milk. Every morning. At least she is a quite positive person and we had a hearty laugh together after disecting the situation
phobosorbust
science demands that I reproduce this preparation, but my body refuses that much milk and is willing to do violence to my day if I insist, so n will be quite small
JustTryingToHelpDude
you can substitute the milk for coconut milk if you like that. or there are always lactose free milk and cream. Nothing wrong with a treat, it just shouldn't be a staple 😂