For the record, Hitler originally wanted to report all the Jews but he didn't consider the expense. The destruction of property alone was huge when the Nazis started raiding their homes and businesses. So much so that his finance minister complained about it.
In the end he ended up using slavery, murder squads, and eventually gas chambers against Jews.
Trump is going to run into the same problems and imagine his other solutions wouldn't be much better.
There are a lot of foolishly naive people right now who think America is safe because "surely there are checks and balances, the people will take things to court and stop him, he can't do it, the senate will stop him. The house will stop him. The people will stop him." They don't realize...He owns the courts, the senate, the house and the people? Fuck em, he'll call in the military to shoot em all dead. The fear is real, the paranoia is justified. Quit acting like the deck isn't stacked.
On the one hand getting rid of birthright citizenship would be difficult because it is a part of the constitution. On the other hand they really want to get rid of it and they don't care about laws, the constitution, or what the people want.
Our government sends BILLIONS of dollars to Israel so they can drop bombs on poor people. You think they won’t spend a trillion deporting people?? Homie, that kind of ignorance and “nah they wouldn’t do that lol” attitude is part of what landed us here. A bunch of conservatives, including Steve Bannon, just openly admitted and jokes about Project 2025 being the plan all along. https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/republicans-celebrate-project-2025-trump-win-1235155322/
Here’s a not-so-fun fact. The Nazis tried to deport all of the Jews but found that it was a logistical nightmare. They would have to corral, feed and house them, all of which is insanely expensive. So instead they decided it was more efficient and cheaper to murder them. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madagascar_Plan
For the 2016 election, Trump was rallying his deplorables with promises to lock up his opponent, Hillary Clinton, over her emails issue. As soon as he was elected, he said, "Nah, we're not going to do that." He promised everyone that Mexico would pay for a "beautiful, beautiful wall" to be built - nope. Trump also promised to replace Obamacare with an even better health plan. Nope - and still nope to this day. Empty promises are what Trump is made of. It's just what he does. Recognize a con man.
I mean, Prohibition was the 18th amendment, and the 21st amendment ratified it completely so...it's not exactly like it has been unprecedented. And even if it was, what makes you think that'd stop Trump and Republicans who have all three houses and branches of government?
Theoretically, Trump could declare a state of Emergency which allows for the suspension of many parts of the Constitution. Lincoln did it during the civil war, and right now there are decades of Executive Orders that are still in place that would allow for quite a bit of wiggleroom if necessary.
"It's financially impossible" Yeah, and? Trump doesn't know or care. He's a financially-illiterate moron driven by petty whims who has bankrupted multiple businesses, including several actual casinos. Anyone who thinks he won't bankrupt America in pursuit of those same whims has absolutely GOT to stop sniffing chemicals.
True. I could be wrong, but I don't think there will be significant deportations. *Threatening* to deport illegals during the election helps him get votes (unfortunate but true). Actually *doing* it doesn't. US companies want cheap US labor, so mass deportations would likely hurt them.
Y'all don't get it. They're just gonna do what the NSDAP did before them - use their targets as slave labor. THAT'S how they intend to get around the "labor shortage" this plan of theirs will create - by turning cheap workers into free workers at (metaphorical AND literal) gunpoint.
To be fair, if I thought that would happen, I'd have been tempted to vote for Trump. Not really though, because I'm not a mouth breathing hate peddler whose mere existence is the strongest pro choice argument it's possible to make.
How would that even work? like 99% of Americans alive right now were immigrants at some, not all that distant, point in the past. Like the amount of families that moved to the US within just the last 2 or so generations has to be huge. Go back a couple more generations and there weren't any 'Americans' to begin with lol.
His father bribed an official to move to the US FIRST, then fucked in Canada and had that shit goblin, then moved back. So it's either US or Cuba... We do not recognize him as a Canadian!!!!
Southern Ontario is FILLED with Bieber-wannabees... do you WANT northern douchebag migrant caravans? Cuz Doug Ford will do it! (Actually no, he won't.)
So, if Trump gives the first fuck about the Constitution, he has to amend it to remove the 14th Amendment (which collapses most of our other rights)... but I don't think he cares and will just pack the courts and have them say, 'that's not what it says' even though it says, "All people born or naturalized in the United States are citizens of the United States and the state they reside in."
People told the Dems for four years to expand the court.... Now I wouldn't be surprised if that was one of the first things the GOP does now that they have control.
I didn't say they'd need to. They don't need to do damn near any of the things they do. But they might still do it to further cement their power, to prevent any future Democrat from doing it, and to be douchebags.
I mean they ignore the well regulated militia part of the second, or the fact that it's says nothing about ammo so ya I could see them saying it doesn't say what it does.
The Well-Regulated militia was the unorganized militia of 1789 America.... it was a real thing, basically every man, aged 17-45, was in this militia...
That militia ceased to exist in 1903 with the passage of the The Militia Act, which established the National Guard as the organized militia and effectively ending the unorganized militia as a thing.
Expect according to it's wording it says only those in a well regulated militia can own a weapon, not just whoever wants one. So if the national guard is the well regulated militia then only those peeps can own a weapon. It also leaves taxes & ammo out of it so by the amendments wording those should be able to be regulated like crazy, but even then that's not been allowed. That's what I mean by the ignore it, they go with a whoever wants one for whatever reason can have one ideal.
The reason for the 2nd Amendment was an absolute fear of a standing Army... which was moot in June 14, 1775 when the US Army was established....
It was also a realization that people needed fouling pieces to survive.... and it was cheaper to get people to arm themselves than an Army, so they stuffed everyone into the militia, which was then supplanted (mostly because of how piss-poorly the unorganized militia fought).
And don't get me started on the meaning of 'well regulated' in 1789.
I understand, but they can't pick & chose what they want it to be. If they wanna go by 1789 amendent meaning then stick to it, stop taking parts from all over time to get what you want. All that's doing is ignoring parts of it for others.
meowingintensifies
those jobs will be filled by children, to support their parents (who will inevitably get laid off or paycuts due to the crashed economy).
Hekatombe
https://www.newsweek.com/trump-administration-accuses-hundreds-hispanics-faking-citizenship-1096858
https://www.valleycentral.c">96858">https://www.newsweek.com/trump-administration-accuses-hundreds-hispanics-faking-citizenship-1096858
https://www.valleycentral.com/news/local-news/passport-denials-linked-to-midwife-births-extremely-concerning-under-trump-admin-says-attorney/
Youmustrememberthis
it appears people have forgotten the definition of "literally" YET AGAIN
ChewyTheWookie
Someone is unaware of Trump's Office of Denaturalization
Enoan
Asset seizure of undesirables is a huge portion of how the Nazis financed and provided perks for their loyalists.
DJOldguy
Considering that Trump has yet to deliver on any promise he ever made, except tax cuts for his wealthy donors, why are we so worried?
VictusVonGuyver
For the record, Hitler originally wanted to report all the Jews but he didn't consider the expense. The destruction of property alone was huge when the Nazis started raiding their homes and businesses. So much so that his finance minister complained about it.
In the end he ended up using slavery, murder squads, and eventually gas chambers against Jews.
Trump is going to run into the same problems and imagine his other solutions wouldn't be much better.
Frndlylion
So they are going to deport Barron Trump and his mother?
JesusofMethlehem
https://www.cnn.com/2024/11/07/politics/judge-strikes-biden-policy-undocumented-spouses/index.html
Voxius
There are a lot of foolishly naive people right now who think America is safe because "surely there are checks and balances, the people will take things to court and stop him, he can't do it, the senate will stop him. The house will stop him. The people will stop him." They don't realize...He owns the courts, the senate, the house and the people? Fuck em, he'll call in the military to shoot em all dead. The fear is real, the paranoia is justified. Quit acting like the deck isn't stacked.
JohnWickdidnothingwrong
If I hear one more person bleat "But they can't DO that!" I'm going to throw up again.
Casually
On the one hand getting rid of birthright citizenship would be difficult because it is a part of the constitution. On the other hand they really want to get rid of it and they don't care about laws, the constitution, or what the people want.
Werewolfoflondon
Yes, and we revert back to robber barons or worse.
SerialChickenLover
Carlos doesn’t think the leopards want to eat his face
capecoder
Our government sends BILLIONS of dollars to Israel so they can drop bombs on poor people. You think they won’t spend a trillion deporting people?? Homie, that kind of ignorance and “nah they wouldn’t do that lol” attitude is part of what landed us here. A bunch of conservatives, including Steve Bannon, just openly admitted and jokes about Project 2025 being the plan all along. https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/republicans-celebrate-project-2025-trump-win-1235155322/
capecoder
Here’s a not-so-fun fact. The Nazis tried to deport all of the Jews but found that it was a logistical nightmare. They would have to corral, feed and house them, all of which is insanely expensive. So instead they decided it was more efficient and cheaper to murder them. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madagascar_Plan
HisBubbliness
If he couldn't and wouldn't do it, why would he promise to do it and why would he get support for it?
BlancheFromage
For the 2016 election, Trump was rallying his deplorables with promises to lock up his opponent, Hillary Clinton, over her emails issue. As soon as he was elected, he said, "Nah, we're not going to do that." He promised everyone that Mexico would pay for a "beautiful, beautiful wall" to be built - nope. Trump also promised to replace Obamacare with an even better health plan. Nope - and still nope to this day. Empty promises are what Trump is made of. It's just what he does. Recognize a con man.
TektronixTDS360
Birthright citizenship is in the 14th amendment, so you'd need another constitutional amendment to take it away.
Dimensionsatire
I mean, Prohibition was the 18th amendment, and the 21st amendment ratified it completely so...it's not exactly like it has been unprecedented. And even if it was, what makes you think that'd stop Trump and Republicans who have all three houses and branches of government?
freshthrowaway1138
Theoretically, Trump could declare a state of Emergency which allows for the suspension of many parts of the Constitution. Lincoln did it during the civil war, and right now there are decades of Executive Orders that are still in place that would allow for quite a bit of wiggleroom if necessary.
INeverReadTheTOS
"It's financially impossible" Yeah, and? Trump doesn't know or care. He's a financially-illiterate moron driven by petty whims who has bankrupted multiple businesses, including several actual casinos.
Anyone who thinks he won't bankrupt America in pursuit of those same whims has absolutely GOT to stop sniffing chemicals.
giraffacekillah
Rovylern
Eeaglepine
Remember, Trump has spent his life promising and not delivering.
theadamabrams
True. I could be wrong, but I don't think there will be significant deportations. *Threatening* to deport illegals during the election helps him get votes (unfortunate but true). Actually *doing* it doesn't. US companies want cheap US labor, so mass deportations would likely hurt them.
ImGoingToGoFallAsleepOnABench
Y'all don't get it. They're just gonna do what the NSDAP did before them - use their targets as slave labor. THAT'S how they intend to get around the "labor shortage" this plan of theirs will create - by turning cheap workers into free workers at (metaphorical AND literal) gunpoint.
duoplicity
Abolishing birthright citizenship means Ted Cruz goes back to being a Canadian!
redwolf2k
We don't want him
HighSorcerer
There's gonna be a lot of really unhappy European-Americans.
AsIWasSaying
(*non-applicable in certain cases)
MikieG
We don't want him back
StatisticallyInsignificantCanadian
Eh, he's just going to spend more time hiding away in Mexico.
sneakinglurkingpeepingguy
Fuck No!
kowanfox
Eww no, keep that trash away from us!
captainfakeypants
Ted Cruz losing his US citizenship is not the same thing as Canada accepting Ted Cruz.
"We doon't fucken want him eyether, so he's still yerr prahblem. Sorry, aboot that."
"Oh, also - sorry, but not sorry."
historycat
That's why there are courts.
Abolish birthright citizenship.
No action until someone decides to arrest you.
Wealthy and powerful don't get arrested.
Richter12x2
To be fair, if I thought that would happen, I'd have been tempted to vote for Trump. Not really though, because I'm not a mouth breathing hate peddler whose mere existence is the strongest pro choice argument it's possible to make.
killernerd
How would that even work? like 99% of Americans alive right now were immigrants at some, not all that distant, point in the past. Like the amount of families that moved to the US within just the last 2 or so generations has to be huge. Go back a couple more generations and there weren't any 'Americans' to begin with lol.
MapleSyrupMafia
His father bribed an official to move to the US FIRST, then fucked in Canada and had that shit goblin, then moved back. So it's either US or Cuba... We do not recognize him as a Canadian!!!!
PutItInNeutral
That rule will be for YOU. Not a loyal patriot like Raphael "Ted" Cruz. /s
dotslashsandwich
Yup - not even “/s” - this is their modus operandi.
SavageDrums
Man, us Canucks already going to suffer a lot from this election, must you punish us further?
Ipooprainbows
He will make it where it only applies to non-white immigrants
Woahouch110
It will be a selective process. Rich and toe the line your in but there is a cutoff and likely your idea of rich when reading this is too low.
Ree81
You forget the first rule of fascism: "My close friends are untouchable"
It's a Russian style mafia system.
benoodel
No! You keep him!
CaldariBob
No backsies, motherfucker! NO BACKSIES.
CharlesMontgomeryBurns
He renounced his Canadian citizenship, officially not our problem.
Chalybos
Nah man, y’all own that Cuban.
CaldariBob
Southern Ontario is FILLED with Bieber-wannabees... do you WANT northern douchebag migrant caravans? Cuz Doug Ford will do it! (Actually no, he won't.)
bippityboppitybuttsex
So, if Trump gives the first fuck about the Constitution, he has to amend it to remove the 14th Amendment (which collapses most of our other rights)... but I don't think he cares and will just pack the courts and have them say, 'that's not what it says' even though it says, "All people born or naturalized in the United States are citizens of the United States and the state they reside in."
bippityboppitybuttsex
My guess is he goes with the latter since he appears to love this quote:
"For my friends, everything; for my enemies, the law." - Óscar Benavides
BluePaladin42
People told the Dems for four years to expand the court.... Now I wouldn't be surprised if that was one of the first things the GOP does now that they have control.
bippityboppitybuttsex
The GOP does not need to... at all... they have a 6-3, reliable majority... a majority that will do what they are told.
BluePaladin42
I didn't say they'd need to. They don't need to do damn near any of the things they do. But they might still do it to further cement their power, to prevent any future Democrat from doing it, and to be douchebags.
OhIfIMust
I'm sure the SCrOTUS will simply rule his actions constitutional.
bippityboppitybuttsex
I assume he has nothing to fear from Federal courts... I also expect Thomas and Alito to retire...
bittenicht39
They already did preemptively by ruling that a president cannot commit crimes.
chrstphrsh
The Fourteenth Amendment also says that you can't hold office if you started an insurrection, and SCOTUS brushed that aside for Trump.
AFallenDragon
I mean they ignore the well regulated militia part of the second, or the fact that it's says nothing about ammo so ya I could see them saying it doesn't say what it does.
bippityboppitybuttsex
The Well-Regulated militia was the unorganized militia of 1789 America.... it was a real thing, basically every man, aged 17-45, was in this militia...
That militia ceased to exist in 1903 with the passage of the The Militia Act, which established the National Guard as the organized militia and effectively ending the unorganized militia as a thing.
AFallenDragon
Expect according to it's wording it says only those in a well regulated militia can own a weapon, not just whoever wants one. So if the national guard is the well regulated militia then only those peeps can own a weapon. It also leaves taxes & ammo out of it so by the amendments wording those should be able to be regulated like crazy, but even then that's not been allowed. That's what I mean by the ignore it, they go with a whoever wants one for whatever reason can have one ideal.
bippityboppitybuttsex
The reason for the 2nd Amendment was an absolute fear of a standing Army... which was moot in June 14, 1775 when the US Army was established....
It was also a realization that people needed fouling pieces to survive.... and it was cheaper to get people to arm themselves than an Army, so they stuffed everyone into the militia, which was then supplanted (mostly because of how piss-poorly the unorganized militia fought).
And don't get me started on the meaning of 'well regulated' in 1789.
AFallenDragon
I understand, but they can't pick & chose what they want it to be. If they wanna go by 1789 amendent meaning then stick to it, stop taking parts from all over time to get what you want. All that's doing is ignoring parts of it for others.
spontaneous9
His mother was an illegal alien who overstayed her work visa FOR YEARS, then married Fred when she got in trouble for it.
lookinginallthewrongplaces
And Hitler was Jewish…
RayneOfSalt
What? No he wasn't. He was the result of inbreeding though.
CaldariBob
And the Third Lady lied to get in on a genius visa. I wonder how Barron will like Slovenia? /s
th3guy
Slovenia is actually a great country, for what it’s worth.
DarkUranium
Slovenian here. You can keep him.
CaldariBob
If Canada has to take back Ted Cruz, you guys have to take Barron & Milenia! :)
DarkUranium
Can we at least send one of our right-wing politicians over in exchange? Trash for trash.
suggestedCleverUsernameGenerator
Canada doesn’t want Ted Cruz… Raphael Cruz… he’s from south not north… you keep him.
BlancheFromage
It's Melanoma
CaldariBob
I fear I have added an Autocorrect misspelling by accident.