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bachterman
griffon 2-6 in the pipe, 5 by 5
sf111
valiantaesir
This is a sexy helicopter.
willpwrbcn9
Airwolf... Theme tune playing in my head
lochnessmonsterr
Ever since I was a kid, I thought that was the coolest heli. Wish they had found a use for it in service
SGSchlaghund
thats not airwolf:P
crustybust
That's just an Akula from GTA5.
lackofempathy
Anybody remember that chopper sim Comanche? Man that was the shit.
tehguldincalk
Ah, brings me back to the good ol days in Mercenaries 1
likifucrieverytim
Command and conquer generals anyone?
llaassbboorrg
Still remember sneaking up until tanks in the Nova Logic pc game, in all its voxel glory.
incubusiness
Airwolf? That’s clearly Blue Thunder you goddamn heathens.
jherazob
Nah, Blue Thunder was far boxier, this is halfway between the two, so it's gotta be their love child
welcomestranger
All those old 90's games made it seem like a hell of a lot more than just 5 were ever produced.
Sapotaattori
Same with jackhammer.
pigzunderground
This is such a beautiful aircraft & it's a shame that the program had to be cancelled. It'd be nice to see civilian versions w/ same looks.
KnifeKnut
And all that could have been.
Nocturner
another one
Lekholm
"Gunship reporting in"
Ebolawakens
"Rocket pods are now available sir".
chiechien
It made for some fun video games! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comanche_(video_game_series)
Odballl
Goldeneye.
veritasgear
Nah that was the Tiger Heli
oo0ORB0oo
Is that what crashed during the raid on Osama?
Whiachy
No. What crashed was a prototype stealth conversion of a UH-60 Black Hawk.
darlcat
Oh hey a debadged Akula
12rt2345g342563
No.
Kimmykix
Nah thats just Arma 3 ;D
TheLannistersSendALovelyFruitBasket
Blackfoot for life.
DanDippity
Love me some AH-99.
Mightymamba
I see what ya did there ;)
ThreeDimesDown
Is the the F-52?
rezpawner
That's so stupid. He obviously meant B52's. Norway needs strategic bombers!
curtan309
Command and Conquer Generals?
TheRealStalinWhoIsStandingUp
maliciousGman
YESSSS. I love the one USA mission where you have to protect retreating forces with a squadron of Comanches.
gx67
I felt like such a badass during that one.
dentalfury
I miss playing this. I have an old C&C Decade CD I bought years ago with this and all earlier C&C games on it. Alas, its damaged, can't 1/2
dentalfury
play Generals at all and I would honestly consider re-buying if it was available on Steam, etc.
TheAnswerWasAlwaysMoreLube
I pirated and modded it a while ago. Also check out "generals gentlemen" on youtube for very entertaining casts.
dentalfury
Cool, I used to play a lot of RTS games back the day but sadly their not as commonly found anymore. I found a $6 link for the Ultimate 1/2
dentalfury
Collection of Command and Conquer but it seems a little too good to be true. I have the "Decade" with everything but the recent TW games.
railgap
Trying to make rotors stealthy must be fun.
TheAnswerWasAlwaysMoreLube
As a biologist, they probably copy owlwings.
railgap
I wasn't talking about acoustics. Not sure owl wings are optimized for low radar cross section. ;)
TheAnswerWasAlwaysMoreLube
Then they should probably copy some moths with high predator pressure from bats.
5thDevilofKimon
So they rebooted Airwolf?
min8tve
Blue Thunder, Mr. President.
daMesuoM
That is actualy my ringtone
Jaboticaba
Jan Michael Vincent
gorillamanjones
Still love that show. I used to stay up late as a kid and watch it with my pop.
Psymon100
Da didly da, didly da, didly da da du da da- da da-da daaaa
FreelanceSpermDonor
Close! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8syGlAMTKA
mwoodman
I hate to admit I actually tried singing that. Take my up vote.
OrionRed
*tck tck* catch you later.
pinkypiesbutt
Designed before Airwolf
MandaloreIncognito
Fuck! Now I have the theme stuck in my head!
SpecialProjectY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dwmf-wx8VQ
kirmes
MandaloreIncognito
Not that it's a bad thing, either...
stardenker
Me too. Damn.
mwoodman
I too am old enough to remember this. How do you do, fellow strings?
oyoyoyyyyy
Does anyone remember the Comanche games? With Voxel gaphics?
Ginocide
Yes https://media.giphy.com/media/GrUhLU9q3nyRG/giphy.gif
nursejr210
isn't that the one where one of the missions was being totally surrounded by enemies and having unlimited ammo?
MiddleTiddy
Yes. I've still got a "bundle" with Comanche II, Armored Fist II, and F-22 Lightning. They don't run on modern PC's but I've got them.
jherazob
You may be able to run them using Dosbox
Selerox
*Amazing* games. Some arse-clenching moments trying not to be spotted by SAM sites.
theeyeshaveit
And the box was awesome too!
PADDYOT
Yep!!! Loved it.
HistoricalContext
I do! Played those when I was a kid.
Kiauitl
Meeeeemoriiiiieees
Aktavate
Yes so awesome, just don't go back and play them now it will ruin the memory
Elkarlo77
Yes and still has a setup for it (and Mechwarior Mercenaries) old P-133 16MB Ram, Saitek x-36 and pedals.
MrNightfish
I still have them laying around somewhere on disks that do not fit into any computer I have. :3
zebulorg
I still have a bunch of ms-dos games but I haven't bothered to put a CD drive on my pc yet..
dcfrenchstudent
one of my first computer games - Comanche Gold.
Awesomegeddon
LOVED those games
TerryFoldFlaps
I thought I was the only one
bibidybop
Loved that game. Flying through the trenches.
TheSwintonLion
Lhx attack chopper
Lykasmitts
probably my 'gateway' to flight sims, my brother's copy of course. Then he lent it to someone and that person lost it, sad. even was 'gold'
bumblefook
Yep played the heck out of that.
PlusSizedGentlemanInAnUndersizedGarment
The original game was so ahead of it's time. In order to make it run fast enough, they wrote the engine in assembler!!!
helpusdrzaius
Hell yes, made by Novalogic, they also made Delta force series. Good times.
oyoyoyyyyy
Oh yeah. Totally forgot about that one. Was just awesome.
helpusdrzaius
Ever play Enemy Engaged Comanche vs Hokum? That was the evolution of those old games. Really great game, before things got ultra realistic
oyoyoyyyyy
Nope. Will look it up
crawfish41
I wonder if the pilot plays the cello?
TxGoatWhisperer
A Stradivarius at that.
jherazob
The theme is now playing in my head
CookieRoe
And lives in a cabin with a dog named Tet.
bingotown
That old Bell 222 looked just as good as this Comanche.
AreaResident
"Tell it to the eagle." ~ Stringfellow Hawke
MiracleWhoop
I had this game on NES!
chidochido
Jan Michael Vincent you magnificent motherfucker.
chidochido
https://i0.heartyhosting.com/www.nationalenquirer.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/jan-michael-vincent-alcohol-drugs-6.jpg?fit=1380%2C880
NotAHugeSpider
IronicJeremyIrons
Jan Quadrant Vincent
BatBaconGod
I can already see it lifting out the volcano, awesome ref.
theygotmedsforthat
It took the volcano to tip me off. Awesome ref. to the ref.
WhoReadsPeoplesUsernamesAnyway
My friend gets it but can someone explain it to me?
Spoonheadflat
Air Wolf i believe. Same vintage as Night Rider and the A Team. Golden age of pop corn TV.
jherazob
Same era, it was a team of similar series following a pattern: this, Blue Thunder and Street Hawk
jherazob
Here's the intro: https://youtu.be/ULfmowbNlK0
an4on7Villain
Best into music ever!!
kermot
Out in the Valley of the Gods
digme
A childhood fave - Dominic Santini and Stringfellow Hawke.
manowar669
Neither of them looking so good these days.
Racealistic
But they are dea- ohh..
manowar669
Jan Michael Vincent isn't dead, but looks like it
Racealistic
Yee damn shame.
digme
Lost a leg
ButterfaceTaintClown
https://youtu.be/7ykQFrL0X74
YerDadSellsAvon
well that was fucking gash.
ButterfaceTaintClown
Well yeah, youtube isn't the same as being there.
AndreTheHunter
ButterfaceTaintClown
Stockhausen is on the Sgt Pepper because art.
Noebuhdy
Sucks that they didn't had interest in putting this to good use.
BuckeyeBTH
Uh... we got Osama... a decade late and in a different country, but we got him. I'm willing to bet these were on mission.
GhillieTrollAskold
Not cost effective enough, mission not clearly defined, didn't fulfill a role that wasn't already being fulfilled effectively.
ichoder
It seems to me the stealth bits probably found their way into the Stealth Blackhawk. https://theaviationist.com/category/stealth-black-hawk/
BuckeyeBTH
Seems to me these probably accompanied and covered the Stealth Blackhawks on missions
NewHouse32
I agree, but $$$.
MisterLemons
But... F35.
NewHouse32
Yeah I know... But the f35s big thing isn't even stealth. It's the sensor fusion.
MisterLemons
The reason we chose the F22 program over the YF23 (statistically superior) was cost. It's mind boggling how dysfunctional money makes things
nominaltoactual2
They chose drones instead...
Matthew550
Seems like a better investment tbh
nominaltoactual2
I think so..
geosynthetic
A lamer, but better investment. Heck, insurgents were recently able to cripple a russian airbase in syria with consumer drones.
Matthew550
Thats as cool as it is terrifying
tooomanystevesgotbanned
Why only 5? Were they rubbish or too expensive for the benefit?
Lykasmitts
costs overran by miles and they realised the Apache could do what they wanted of the Commanche.
randomresearch
Terrible instance of design by committee. Super unrealistic requirements, like being able to fly across oceans. Made costs enormous.
TimeToGetGetSchwiftyInHere
“Too expensive for the benefit”? Do you know anything about the US military??
Thajurriesexcuesed
Stealth wouldn't prevent it from being shot down by an RPG just like any other helicopter.
CritterJoe
UAVs and army needed money for other stuff, plus order numbers went down, rocketing unit price. iirc.
shimmernshine
Their survivability/cost was eclipsed by UCAV and loitering weapon systems. The budget was spent on upgrading existing systems.
SPCNewbie
They were a light attack/scout helicopter that cost as much as a fighter plane.
SPCNewbie
The GAO reported it had "serious doubts" about the program, that the it would "consume almost 2/3 of Aviation budget by Fiscal 2008."
SPCNewbie
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing%E2%80%93Sikorsky_RAH-66_Comanche#Cancellation
UAL4life
Ah so ArmA 3 was realistic?
shimmernshine
No clue. I'm talking about real explosions and blood.
shimmernshine
This is getting fucked up.
BarnibusSwarleyStinson
What does this mean in dumb people terms?
shimmernshine
@skippedover has it right. Another way to put it is that it was a better job for robots, and we invented the robots.
SkippedOver
Translation: Unmanned combat aircraft vehicles (UCAV) and suicide/kamikaze unmanned aircraft drones (loitering weapon systems) 1/2
SkippedOver
were cheaper and more effective in combat. The money was used elsewhere. 2/2
12rt2345g342563
It's yet another program that took so long that many systems were outdated by the time they were getting ready for production.
12rt2345g342563
So it would have cost many additional billions to not only produce it but to upgrade all of the systems. Defense Contractor 101.
shimmernshine
Death Spiral!
shimmernshine
Not to say that the entire project was a loss, a lot of the technologies ended up on AH-64 revisions and other projects.
GadenKerensky
Though, I recall the Comanche was intended to operate in a tandem-role with the Apache, acting as a forward observer and support unit.
shimmernshine
It was a light multirole attack helicopter by design. It was Boeing/Sikorsky's winning bid for the joint LHX [light helicopter experiment].
GadenKerensky
And one of its roles was to coordinate with Apaches, IIRC; provide targeting data for the heavier armed Apache to wreck shit better.
shimmernshine
It doesn't need to be manned to do that anymore. Any support role it could have provided is covered by modern UCAV
shimmernshine
The low altitude/low observable aspects are really better served by UAV. There's no reason for a single seater light attack heli anymore
GadenKerensky
Whilst that is true, that was still one of the objectives they wanted the Comanche to fulfil.
shimmernshine
And I'm sure the experience they gained researching/adapting those systems to the Comanche were invaluable in later research.
shimmernshine
The modified blackhawks used in the raid on Bin Laden's compound in Pakistan probably used some of the comanche's stealth tech.
steikewaffel
"bin laden"
PatrickDahm
Why fast rope in when you can just spike the bird into your objective?!
bamcockseverywhere
...Ground effect, lol
shimmernshine
They survived, didn't they?
oyoyoyyyyy
Maybe
PatrickDahm
Blackhawks falling from the heavens... so stealthy
shimmernshine
I don't get the reference
Squossifrage
They crashed one and had to blow it up to prevent the wreckage from falling into the wrong hands. Not very stealthy.
shimmernshine
That's standard operating procedure. These were experimental aircraft on a one-off mission.
chiechien
It was pretty stealthy until they clipped the tail on the wall and crashed!
shimmernshine
Also they only cared about getting IN without detection. Which they did.
TheManInTheWall
Poor cost-efficiency i imagine
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TheManInTheWall
Most of the time. Usually just buy a couple of prototypes to see what theyre worth but leave it at that. Then again the UK did order about
TheManInTheWall
12 daring class destroyers but could only afford to make something like 7
FireflyActual
More times than you'd think. Many great projects got either shelved or so few were made they essentially became tech demonstrators.
KillerTofu615
Or they gave a handful to the marines to see if usefulness outweighed cost IE Ospreys.
KillerTofu615
Marines: We'll take the shit that doesn't work and use it. Army: we've got tons of stuff to buy, too expensive. Navy: Boats. Airforce: 1/2
KillerTofu615
doesn't regularly fly helicopters and when they do they don't need stealth. Coast guard: Can't afford it, doesn't need it.