IIRC there was also a helicopter which used alcohol to supplement the fuel/air mixture which would get depleted when and while they fired the main weapon because the exhaust *of* the weapon would be sucked into the engine intakes... Or something to that effect, it's been like a decade since I read that article.
The latter happened with a lot of fighters, especially the early jet fighters that were still relying on guns which they installed in the nose right next to the air intakes. So much trail & error.
My mom was a secretary at Ladd Field in Fairbanks, Alaska during WW2, and told how she and the girls "requisitioned" barrels of ethanol and frozen orange juice to throw parties for Soviet lend-lease personnel who were stationed there. Wild times.
Possibly designed at least in part by Russian resisters? I mean there had to be people forced to work on those programs. Submit a bunch of trash design proposals to waste time and resources, and maybe a few even make it into production...
"became a real BITCH keeping the ground team from drinking the coolent" XD The fact that there were russians that thought, "Hey this plane FUEL is made of Vodka, and we are all out of Vodka, Can we drink this instead?" Igor:"....да!"
It's not that uncommon. Nazis had the exact same problem with their rocket programme. V-2 used 75% ethanol as fuel. Made with potatoes, of course, as if famine wasn't a problem.
Anyway, the tried dye which immediately got filtered out and laxatives, which backfired by causing even worse delays than the fuel evaporating. Then methanol got mixed in, either intentionally or through worsening quality control, killing one guy and blinding another.
Tupolev related: A video about the Tu-104, which suffered a number of fatal crashes due to a design issue which caused an uncommanded pitch up the pilots couldn't overcome. 'Was This The Most Dangerous Airliner Ever?' by Mustard: https://youtu.be/tqhtkG6glug
Same plane, different incident. See: 'When the Soviet Navy Lost 16 Admirals in a Single Accident: The Tu-104 Crash at Pushkin' by Paper Skies: https://youtu.be/ZU1f47SC_A8
So, he's a comedian, not ACTUALLY a youth pastor. He goes by that handle because people say that's what he looks like. He is most definitely NOT a pastor, youth or otherwise
Pitch-up on landing is the result of the swept wing-tip stalling which was a problem early MiGs addressed to some extent with wing fences. Apparently Tupolev did not get that memo. BTW some US planes also had downward ejection.
That had to do, in part, with West Germany getting them and deciding they'd be a good ground attack/CAS aircraft for some reason. IIRC they legit lost around 1/3rd of their fleet purely to lawndarting into the ground.
They have a turning radius measured in time zones and they might be the only aircraft to take off by traveling in a straight line while the earth curves out from under them.
Yup, due to their propensity to lawn dart into the ground when they were used in low-altitude operations (something they weren't designed to be very good at).
Wow, I'd thought that the B-52 was retired already... but apparently there's still over 70 in service that actually received some upgrades for extended service until 2050.
I just think of airframe aging over time. Micro cracks forming in the structural components. The B-52 has been in service for over 60 years. At least from what I've found on-line, a total of 744 were made, the last one rolling off the production line in 1962.
The B52 is the (air)ship of Theseus at this point. They have pretty much all of the airframes saved that aren't in service stashed in the desert to control corrosion (off the top of my head I think it's Nevada, can't recall the name of the facility), along with other aircraft, for parts. Also, lots of aircraft parts are routinely x-rayed to check for stress like you described. Pretty cool stuff lol
A lot of the wearing components have been rebuilt over time. Or at least the wings have. And remember; Peace Dividend meant there was a glut of spare parts.
IAmAnjelen
IIRC there was also a helicopter which used alcohol to supplement the fuel/air mixture which would get depleted when and while they fired the main weapon because the exhaust *of* the weapon would be sucked into the engine intakes... Or something to that effect, it's been like a decade since I read that article.
Acc87
The latter happened with a lot of fighters, especially the early jet fighters that were still relying on guns which they installed in the nose right next to the air intakes. So much trail & error.
zeacorzeppelin10
LOL
WhatzitTooya
Whats so special about using ethanol as antifreeze?
JusticePhrall
My mom was a secretary at Ladd Field in Fairbanks, Alaska during WW2, and told how she and the girls "requisitioned" barrels of ethanol and frozen orange juice to throw parties for Soviet lend-lease personnel who were stationed there. Wild times.
jumpbus360
So now we know where Boeing got it's last round of engineers.
zeacorzeppelin10
Mistakes were made.
LiarLiarPantsUntier
Like, all of the mistakes possible.
LordofGoats
Da.
cepacolusmaximus
Possibly designed at least in part by Russian resisters?
I mean there had to be people forced to work on those programs. Submit a bunch of trash design proposals to waste time and resources, and maybe a few even make it into production...
lavoleous
Hell, the F104 Starfighter had a downward-ejecting seat. https://www.ejectionsite.com/f104seat.htm
DaierMune
I feel obligated to point out the Lazerpig Loop because Russian engineering is consistently bad.
Howlingowl
Holy shit is it ever. Read anything on Chernobyl: Russian engineering almost killed every human in Asia
NorrinxRadd
This dude makes me laugh, thanks for sharing this one
Redshadow09
"became a real BITCH keeping the ground team from drinking the coolent" XD The fact that there were russians that thought, "Hey this plane FUEL is made of Vodka, and we are all out of Vodka, Can we drink this instead?" Igor:"....да!"
Nuttsy
It's not that uncommon. Nazis had the exact same problem with their rocket programme. V-2 used 75% ethanol as fuel. Made with potatoes, of course, as if famine wasn't a problem.
Anyway, the tried dye which immediately got filtered out and laxatives, which backfired by causing even worse delays than the fuel evaporating. Then methanol got mixed in, either intentionally or through worsening quality control, killing one guy and blinding another.
Solkanarmy
the t-160 is a beast in dominations though
Zeterai
Is there anything they won't cool with vodka? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYTJfLyo_vE
Larktonguesinadicecup
It.
amp99
Tupolev related: A video about the Tu-104, which suffered a number of fatal crashes due to a design issue which caused an uncommanded pitch up the pilots couldn't overcome. 'Was This The Most Dangerous Airliner Ever?' by Mustard: https://youtu.be/tqhtkG6glug
ElorYosnak
Good thing no modern planes made the same mistake. Especially not any airlines starting with 'B' and ending in 'oeing'
LemmingRuss
AKA when arrogant officers overload the cargo bay with objects liable to move around when unchecked.
amp99
Same plane, different incident. See: 'When the Soviet Navy Lost 16 Admirals in a Single Accident: The Tu-104 Crash at Pushkin' by Paper Skies: https://youtu.be/ZU1f47SC_A8
Nexodaedalus
Mustard is an excellent channel! Watched all the vids in a single day.
DukePhelan
The ground crews drinking the aircraft coolant to get drunk is the most Russian thing ever I feel.
trumpypumpyinyourrumpy
Bylat
HypnoCT
This guy’s videos are great. You can also look him up as Ryan Kelly
drcyberbob
I lost a lot of respect for his videos when I saw the Rolls-Royce one. I'm not sure he got more than 50% of his statements correct
Magnar1183
Well... uh... that's a bit unfortunate. Make sure you do NOT abbreviate his first name! Lol
Nostradamuswaswrong
I still crack up at the GE one.
"I like things that spin."
HypnoCT
“That’s what the washing machines are for”
Raziel420
I've spent enough time on imgur to be wary of anyone claiming to be a youth pastor....
Felimelinesk
It was to avoid such a topic as the main discussion in the comments that I didn't give the source...
YouforgottopayyourBarTab
So, he's a comedian, not ACTUALLY a youth pastor. He goes by that handle because people say that's what he looks like. He is most definitely NOT a pastor, youth or otherwise
cosinewave
Pitch-up on landing is the result of the swept wing-tip stalling which was a problem early MiGs addressed to some extent with wing fences. Apparently Tupolev did not get that memo. BTW some US planes also had downward ejection.
AnAverageBoxEnthusiast
downward ejection is what i did to your mother last night
AnAverageBoxEnthusiast
25+ years ago. its me your brother
DavidRoland
Funnily enough, Eurofighters had the same problem in testing. They just added forward canards.
TohmaytohTohmahtoh
The Lockheed F-104 Starfighter also had a downward ejecting pilot's seat.
https://veteransbreakfastclub.org/the-short-history-of-the-f-104s-stanley-c-1-downward-firing-ejection-seat/
GooteMoo
Wasn't that the plane they called the "widowmaker"?
AreYouABadPerson
That had to do, in part, with West Germany getting them and deciding they'd be a good ground attack/CAS aircraft for some reason. IIRC they legit lost around 1/3rd of their fleet purely to lawndarting into the ground.
CakeShapedPie
They have a turning radius measured in time zones and they might be the only aircraft to take off by traveling in a straight line while the earth curves out from under them.
UserNameCorrupted
also the Coffin Nail.
StellarJay77
Yup, due to their propensity to lawn dart into the ground when they were used in low-altitude operations (something they weren't designed to be very good at).
SneakyGaryTheSerialHorseDrowner
What is a wing fence?
CyberHexx
It keeps the clouds on the other side.
ByThePowerOfSCIENCE
lane dividers for airflow - they reduce the stall speed
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wing_fence
SneakyGaryTheSerialHorseDrowner
Also I just learned what a Vortilon is thanks to this.
SneakyGaryTheSerialHorseDrowner
Oh god damn I had no idea what those were for/called. Thank you!
And yes I know I could've Google'd that but given the choice I prefer asking people who seem to know their stuff.
ByThePowerOfSCIENCE
I also forget some of those aerodynamic devices from time to time. I still have to read up about the pros and cons of delta wings.
VaginaPedant
The B-52 still has downward ejection for some crew (navigator and radar navigator).
heptadecagram
B17 Ball-turret gunner: “You guys are getting ejection seats?”
cosinewave
You are correct.
Vortexhelios320
"...Hey, Carl. That wasn't a bomb we just dropped, was it?"
"...Carl?"
Larktonguesinadicecup
Classic Carl. We still miss him but we didn't miss with him
cytherians
Wow, I'd thought that the B-52 was retired already... but apparently there's still over 70 in service that actually received some upgrades for extended service until 2050.
LemmingRuss
BUFF is Eternal.
macrolet
The rest are parked out behind the Love Shack.
Nuttsy
There's only so many ways to make a tube with wings, and there's next to nothing attritting them. See also: Tu-95.
cytherians
I just think of airframe aging over time. Micro cracks forming in the structural components. The B-52 has been in service for over 60 years. At least from what I've found on-line, a total of 744 were made, the last one rolling off the production line in 1962.
spookyu
The B52 is the (air)ship of Theseus at this point. They have pretty much all of the airframes saved that aren't in service stashed in the desert to control corrosion (off the top of my head I think it's Nevada, can't recall the name of the facility), along with other aircraft, for parts. Also, lots of aircraft parts are routinely x-rayed to check for stress like you described. Pretty cool stuff lol
Nuttsy
A lot of the wearing components have been rebuilt over time. Or at least the wings have. And remember; Peace Dividend meant there was a glut of spare parts.