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Ltgood
Yes it's all black and white until you make it grey to suit your self. [selfishness]
dirkg8989
Actually, we just don't want the government lackeys wasting and stealing half of our stuff in the name of helping the poor.
Contrarianpov
False
dbegley998
This pin head doesn't know the facts. Cathlic charities does more to feed, house and educate the worlds poor thsn any other organization.
WilliamRawe
Here's an important difference: nowhere does the Bible say it is governments job to do this.
smpumper
Or he was made up by the romans and you're just dicks.
kalas1973
No one says don't help the poor. We disagree about the how. I say the government sucks at it. Stephen would disagree.
TheCuratorOfTheSands
Solid truth! Christian, Muslim, Jewish, atheist... It just doesn't matter. Care about others and you'll be rewarded forever
Tomadzo
He's a catholic. Read what you will
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angelsichor
Omg, that username. You just got a follower.
yehudaisrael
Give all your money to the poor then make that statement. Do it!!
BlankhasdiedofDysentery
We spend more just in government entitlements per capita than any other country in the world, we want to help them and we do help them.
The22ndDoctor
Riptide00
No, we don't. Not even close.
Panquecas
I always upvote Harry potter
SecretAgentSuperBooger
Awesoman66theCactusLord
You get that strawman!
aGrumpyPotato
Is it really a strawman when that is literally what the Republican Party says? Like I'm not saying every republican voter says this, but 1/?
aGrumpyPotato
Voted for people who say this, aka they're choosing those exact viewpoints to be represented in the government. 2/2
WorldsSmallestMegaDick
I'm okay with these viewpoints condoms cost 40 cents, its not hard to have even a modicum of personal responsibility.
Bwentos
But parts of that same group also advocate for abstinence only education...
RyanMcAllister
“Each one must give as he has decided in his heart, not reluctantly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver.” 2 Cor 9:7
heylistenLDN
Or ORRRR just be a good person. Whether an old fairytale tells you to or not
Contrarianpov
Thank you!
RyanMcAllister
Judging
I think it's safe to say the takeaway is not "don't help if you don't want to." It's saying that you should want to give.
JuliaBamboolia
EXACTLY. I agree.
RyanMcAllister
Help the poor, don't point a gun at your neighbor to make them help the poor.
Riptide00
1) No. It says cheerful giving is PLEASING to God, to a society that followed Old Testament law and was REQUIRED to give to the poor.
Riptide00
2) Since God wrote the Old Testament law, we know it is morally acceptable to God to require charitable giving, because HE required it.
Riptide00
3) The New Testament simply says that you can go beyond the LAW and be pleasing to God by giving what is required & beyond CHEERFULLY.
Riptide00
4) The scripture you're referring to is discussing giving TO THE CHURCH, by the way. It's not a scripture about charitable giving.
Septagrim
http://www.philanthropyroundtable.org/almanac/who_gives_most_to_charity/
Awesoman66theCactusLord
No, no, no, they dont want facts a nd statistics, they want to keep insulting the US to no end
Septagrim
It's probably just fake news anyway.
Riptide00
1) Highly misleading. That's not measuring charitable giving, it's measuring tax exempt giving, which is different altogether.
Riptide00
2) Notice the high giving in Utah & Idaho? It's because the Mormon church ensures their members are "tithing" 10% to the church.
Riptide00
2a) I have been contacted by a (former??) Mormon who informs me 10% is the minimum, 20% is "encouraged".
Riptide00
3) The trend continues in the Bible belt, but most of the tithes don't go to help the poor, they pay for the church buildings & activities./
eion85
Scientologists must be some of the most charitable people ever then!
Riptide00
Charitable? No. Tax exempt? Yes. They give till it hurts. Then call it a warm up.
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Stephstime
Drop mic!!!!
Riptide00
Trillions? Please link to the budget where we spend TRILLIONS a year on social welfare.
BestUsernameICouldThinkOf
https://www.thebalance.com/u-s-federal-budget-breakdown-3305789 2 trillion for just Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid.
Riptide00
SS & MC are not social welfare. Middle-class folks pay into both every single paycheck.
arsalanism
what??? lol trillions? TRILLIONS?
BestUsernameICouldThinkOf
Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid alone combine for about 2 trillion.
eion85
Social Security & Medicare are not welfare. They are earned benefits. You pay in, you qualify for them.
WorldsSmallestMegaDick
Both are welfare because there is no connection between amount paid vs benefits recieved
eion85
But there is no assessment of need. The Millionaire with a full retirement plan & the min wage worker who has nothing but social security >