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A great injustice.
High school freshman Kim (16) was last spotted on the elevator leading to the 15th floor of his apartment where he eventually jumped to his death on June 2012. The CCTV on the elevator recorded him hugging his knees on the floor, crying while saying, "I want to live... I don't want to die... Someone please hold my hand." Seven and a half hours later, he killed himself.
He left behind a letter that explained how he was bullied. Classmates would hit him if he made the smallest mistake and forced him to do whatever they asked of him. "Today they asked me to come out and play soccer but I was beat up instead for being a few minutes late. When I tried to explain why I was late, I was hit even more."
His father discovered texts from his bullies that showed that he had been tormented for three years. The texts had said, "You're going to be beat up so hard today", "Looks like you're not feeling well because we haven't been beating you enough lately", "You're dead tomorrow", "Buy me that Beanpole jacket like I told you to", "Do you want to be beat for 50 minutes or do 15 pages of my homework", and "From now until 3 AM, you better tell me what you're up to every 20 minutes."
Another CCTV at a PC room showed Kim standing off to the side holding a soccer ball while the rest of his friends played on computers.
Kim took two hours to finally decide upon committing suicide after exiting this elevator. The bullies only admitted to five instances of 'light beating' over the three years along with 'your average tormenting' and stealing his clothes and money. One of the bully's mothers refused that he be investigated because he was too nervous. He is currently hospitalized.
Kim's father said, "In January, I remember my son getting hit by a friend and his ear drum ripping but I didn't think severely of it and forgave him after receiving compensation for treatment. But after checking my dead son's phone, I could find evidence that he was habitually abused." Kim's homeroom teacher said, "Kim always ranked at the top of the class and had good relationships with his classmates."
On the day of the trial: Bully A was sentenced to two years of prison. Bully B was sentenced to a year and six months. As of 2014, the two have completed their jail time and are back to living in society just fine.
In Kim's last letter titled "To everyone I love", "I think it will be difficult to live any longer.... mom, dad, whether it be 10 years, 100 years, or 1,000 years, I'll always be waiting for you and watching over you. I'll be there waiting for you first. I'm sorry mom, I love you."
Today I cried for him. Nobody held his hand.
kaos9
With human nature, nothing ever changes. The most advanced species in our solar system, and the most ignoble of this privilege.
ExodusDei
My mum found out only recently I was bullied as a teenager, when I explained that my makeup is my mask to wear in public. I am 25.
haveguitarwilltravel
This kid wasn't just bullied he was terrorized.
WhyIsThisAGif
As someone who was bullied in high school, this is no fuckin joke. I wish I'd had this kids number while he was alive.
wh1skyd1ck
Honestly, few actions are more terrible than bullying. There should be a level of Hell just for that.
Ihaveaneightinchdickisthatnormal
I don't know what to say. This is so incredibly sad, and I feel so bad for him and his family.
mingotheflamingo
I think we can all agree that the word "friend" was completely misused in these descriptions
Sxyn
This both saddens and infuriates me.
StandardDeviant
http://www.smbc-comics.com/comics/20110406.gif
IAlwaysUpvoteFirefly
Schools now days are like Prisons. My first day of high school I found the biggest senior who was a douche and beat his ass. >
CharmingAndSexyGentlemanStarshipCaptain
I agreed, especially when school officials act more like prison warden than teacher that's supposed to guide us.
IAlwaysUpvoteFirefly
I was then on known as not to be fucked with. But it should not be that way. You should not have to set an example. Everyone should be >
IAlwaysUpvoteFirefly
treated fairly<
ThisIsTheBestUsernameEver
Exactly! The problem is that a that age most people aren't mature enough to understand that you shouldn't be a dick with anyone.
CharmingAndSexyGentlemanStarshipCaptain
And the teachers who are supposed to be mature people don't help bullied kids.
loudkingz
Fuck bullies..
UDBV
We had a post recently. What was the quote from it? Something akin to "Bullying isn't a problem until someone kills themselves"? That's sad.
CharmingAndSexyGentlemanStarshipCaptain
It's the warrior culture embedded in our psyche. We forget that it's less than 100 years since we are "more" civilized then before.
KeiichiMorisato
i almost did this myself a few times, but i couldn't ever go through with it because i didn't want my mom to experience that sort of pain.
reallythisisbullshit
thank you for thinking of others. you might leave the pain behind but you would just give it to the ones you love.
ILoveKpopAndFood
This made me tear up. Watching him sit in that elevator makes me feel so sad. I wish someone could have been there for him
CharmingAndSexyGentlemanStarshipCaptain
Sometimes I wish I have superpower so I can teleport there and hug him.
ILoveKpopAndFood
Same here :(
foxesonboxes
Well now i'm crying in the library-- it's fine. everyone probably just thinks its exam stress
wrknsmart
My son told me when he was bullied and I did come to his defense. I was given assurances, and it was stopped, but not for long.
WanderingBlueWanderlust
Guide him on how to handle bullying. As a classic nerd I've researched on how to handle bullying and asked many for advice. It helped a lot.
jman1210
When parents get involved, it only makes matters worse. The bullies see it as a sign of weakness running to your parebts for help.
isildur
In my experience,this is BS.They are already intent on bullying. They can grumble "snitch" all they want; consequences make them think twice
jman1210
He needs to learn to defend himself in an assertive and if needed, aggressive way for them to stop. Or bring it to the schools attention.
YoMTVRapz
downvote me, idgaf, but if anyone bullys my kids to this degree, I'm slapping a motherfuckah with another motherfuckah.
lapetuss
LOL
Imgonnatipyouwell
No it's true, I always tell my kids if someone bullys you punch them in the nose, if they keep doimg it tell me and I'll punch them too.
SubHumane
R.I.P. tormented soul.
imnothatwitty
I cried for him A kid his age shouldn't believe that life isn't worth living, it breaks my heart. This is why I decided to be a psychiatrist
mocheeka
You're brave for entering that profession. It takes a toll, but god damn we need people to help others mentally.
laestrella
Good for you man! I was bullied,21 years later it still affects me. But I have very good therapist you. You people save lives.
canadianbunnyeh
I was bullied all through elementary school and H.S. My mom and teachers always told me to just ignore them. I dont talk to my mom anymore.
hogjockey
Same story. I call mine up maybe once every two months or so. Only in the past few years has she started to realize how much damage she did.
broken
I haven't spoken to mine in years. She still won't admit what she did and my younger siblings don't quite understand (they were too young)
canadianbunnyeh
Mine never did. She still thinks she was a good mom.
LemonFanta
It was 'just your average tormenting' - ?????????? UM WAT?
quantumpacket
I think that's just translation from Korean. More likely 'your average making fun of someone'.
LemonFanta
Rude!
TrueKnot
they weren't fighting, they're "just boys being boys"
LemonFanta
DOUBLE RUDE!
TrueKnot
sadly enough, that's what people say. that's how this happens. people write it off as "kids are kids" and no one notices till too late
LemonFanta
Survey says: "Those people are dumbfucks".
TrueKnot
Well, yes. But dumbfucks are the majority :/
data2dyne
no, FUCK that phrase, if you get decked in the face, that's not "boys being boys"
TrueKnot
kind of the point.
data2dyne
my teachers told me that when I was bullied
TrueKnot
and now, people say "oh man up, it's just the internet" instead :)
lokkebo
This is in a culture of men who don't show their feelings for fear of weakness. I sincerely hope that that can change, this is a tragedy
CharmingAndSexyGentlemanStarshipCaptain
-taristic attitude home. As in "Stiff upper lip" and "You're a man, deal with it."
CharmingAndSexyGentlemanStarshipCaptain
It will be pretty hard in S.Korea. Since all healthy men need to fulfill 2 years mandatory military draft it means they tend to bring mili-
Mogmai
If you need to talk to someone, visit here: https://www.imalive.org/
vEleven
I clicked on the link and I'm in the process of volunteering. Thanks so much OP!
darster123
Thanks for volunteering!
FlyingTigerRose
Thank you very much for this. You may well save a life just by posting it.
WillJeSuis
As much as these are great but when you are so far gone I feel it becomes futile to talk about it. You live for so many years with a certain
WillJeSuis
mind frame that you built walls that are no longer breakable and others words can no longer sway you.
julesderamablam
Hey OP I would love to use this as a lesson in class, any chance you can post the sauce?
nakedonagiraffe
This needs to be the top comment please!
thisheretexasdude
Or post it for awareness
VashtaNereda
vampyrita
I'm sorry, but your kid comes home with a RIPPED EARDRUM and you didn't think anything was suspicious?
ifartoutmybutt
Not to take away from the post, but it's not to hard to do sometimes. I broke my ear drum playing paintball by getting shot in the (1/2)
ifartoutmybutt
ear at sort of close range and I was only 14. Dr. said it takes just the right hit to cause pressure and the ear drum will break/tear.
CharmingAndSexyGentlemanStarshipCaptain
The kid probably too scared to tell the truth and lied about the cause of injury. Or the dad think it's just boys being boys (common in SK)
CherrySteele
Not only that, he knew a "friend" hit the kid, but he forgave his son because the kid reimbursed him for the treatment!!!
lokkebo
If the dad thought he'd injured himself during soccer? He never told them he was bullied, why would his father jump to conclusions?
KoopaTroopas
It sounds like he knew how it happened. They got money to pay for it from the kid
data2dyne
there are so many things wrong with this story, ill just be in my feels room...
JessThe2ndBestt
He probably thought it was a fight between friends that escalated too far if he didn't think it was reoccurring
Trindalll
And didn't blame him for it because costs were covered?! What!!!
MrPornProfessional
I've been on both sides. Any chance I can, I find those I was mean to, and apologize in person. If we're living in other states, I call.
hogjockey
Your words are fucking worthless. You can never undo the damage you've done.
MrPornProfessional
So...my words hurt, but they can't heal? Seems like we should just all fucking cease trying then.
hogjockey
Go right ahead. You first.
reallythisisbullshit
thank you. i cannot even tell you how much i wish people would just apologize.
MrPornProfessional
I really wasn't a bad person, but I know I was exclusionary at times. Not everyone "got" my sense of humor, so I'm aware I hurt feelings.
MrPornProfessional
Even if the butt of the joke was laughing, I'm sure they weren't always happy about it. I didn't understand that back then. I do now.
reallythisisbullshit
as a highly sensitive person, i know where you are coming from. but just remember everyone has their limits, some peoples are just lower.
MrPornProfessional
I've actually become friends with one of those I victimized, and tell him how proud I am to be accepted as a friend.
MrPornProfessional
As someone who's changing careers to be a teacher, my room will be a "Safe Haven". Look them up. All schools should have them.
thisheretexasdude
Yeeeah...about that username
quantumpacket
That's good. Your username concerns me, though.
CharmingAndSexyGentlemanStarshipCaptain
Sex is better than violence.
quantumpacket
Oh hey! I remember you too! Funny Asian guy!
hogjockey
No, your room most definitely won't be. You might think you can fool all of them, but they're smarter than you likely think.
MrPornProfessional
It's the couch...isn't it?
hogjockey
Nope.
Whipcrack
And now all the scumbag bullies that didnt get caught are probably saying what good friends they were with him..fucking losers.
BunToaster
People who don't even know him will be doing that. When a really good friend of mine died all sorts of people tried to get out of class-
BunToaster
-claiming that they were too sad to do their work. They never spoke to either of us before he died.
Whipcrack
Seriously? Wow, Just..wow. That's pretty low. :o
BunToaster
I live in a smaller town known for its high rate of depression, and I've lost a lot of people especially in HS. It happens every time.
Whipcrack
You would think they would have more respect. That just makes it sadder.
BunToaster
Yeah. It tore me up to see them getting away with it. When I called them out, I was accused of wanting to be the focus of their attention.
charlie2979
And i'm sure you would of stood up to all the bullies, that's what everyone says until they get into that situation.
GangplankTheSaltwaterScourge
i never stood up to bullies, there were too many. i took their shit cause i could. if someone else was being bullied, i drew their attention
piratica108
I don't know about "everyone". I was one of the more popular kids, and defended and even fought for the underdogs on a daily basis. 1/2
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piratica108
Not that I was some great guy, I just naturally tend to side with underdogs. I think a lot of people are like that.
Whipcrack
I had my own bullies at school, when I did stand up to them..it got worse..a lot worse.
charlie2979
That's nice, but not my point. You said about his 'friends' not him.
Whipcrack
That's nice too.
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KeatonTS
that worked back then, when parents actually knew how to parent, defense was justifiable and zero tolerance wasn't much of a thing.
CharmingAndSexyGentlemanStarshipCaptain
Now you will be arrested and get jailed for that :/
BrokeMyFunnyBone
Only if you get caught. Which isn't likely since, bullies tend to bully you away from the eyes of the adults.
my80jo
Argh the feels!!! But seething anger as well. He should've reported them or done SOMETHING, ANYTHING other than taking his life!
SuperJere
I was bullied in school. Nobody did much when I told someone. Usually, the complaints fall on deaf ears. I understand what this kid thought.
Mogmai
Unfortunately the Korean government feels that Korean youths can change, so they are hardly punished. Bullying is a huge issue there.
CharmingAndSexyGentlemanStarshipCaptain
I think the Korean govt just want to make sure they have fresh recruits for the mandatory military draft.
FartedWhileMakingUpName
Isn't the Korean education system really stressful for students too?
Mogmai
Yes. It must of been horrible for him.
charlietheratking
I think a lot of kids do try to say something but still nothing gets done about bullying. I know some teachers that tell students to 1/2
Lyrabelle
I reported mine, but was still harassed. I was put on a time out for yelling, though. The girls did side with me enough to say he was sexist
charlietheratking
"buck up" when they are getting bullied. And then of course you have parents of bullies that won't admit what kind of kid they have.
TurdsOfWisdom
It's a selfish and cowardly way to go. As much as I hate and understand bullying, they basically won when he did it and his parents lost.
roonmian
So in your mind someone who succumbs to the illness of depression with its symptoms of being suicidal is selfish and cowardly?
TurdsOfWisdom
Suicide is always selfish.
idislikecomingupwithuniqueusernames
He's a KID, you ass. A KID beaten and harassed for three years. Essentially tortured. Try showing some sympathy.
TurdsOfWisdom
Just because I don't agree with suicide doesn't mean I don't sympathize for the poor kid. That's a permanent solution to a temp problem.
TurdsOfWisdom
IQndbi feel extremely bad for him. There were other things he should have done before committing suicide. I've lost too many to suicide
TurdsOfWisdom
And I'm still very angry about it
ItchyUnicorn
When I was bullied I tried telling the teachers and principal and my parents. I just got bullied harder and was always the one who 1/?
ItchyUnicorn
Got in trouble over it. I was told to just ignore it. As a result of getting in trouble I just got the shit beat out of me when I went 2/3
ItchyUnicorn
Home. In the adult's eyes I was the one causing problems when I stood up for myself. They chose to ignore the bullying.
CharmingAndSexyGentlemanStarshipCaptain
Denial is the worst thing adults do. For them children are "snowflake" and they are "innocent" I say fuck them. Time to get revenge, humi-
CharmingAndSexyGentlemanStarshipCaptain
-liate them. Confront them now. Even when they are elderly it's not an excuse for their old behaviours.
beanerschnitzle
I hope when my son grows up he'll feel like he can tell me anything, because I'd come to his defense in any way I could
YouCantKeepJetpackingAwayFromYourProblemsBrian
When I was in elementary, this high school guy pulled on my pony tail and ruined my hair on the bus to the point where I'd cry. (1)
WhyShouldILoveYou
If I ever get kids I'll teach them that they can talk to me about anything. I have to be the one person they don't need to fear, ever.
beanerschnitzle
That's what I want when my son is older, I'll tell him over and over again.
hogjockey
Thank you for this. I'm 38 years old and still angry at my parents about not coming to my defense when I was bullied.
beanerschnitzle
My son is only 8 months old but I want to protect him from everything, my husband is just as fiercely protective. I'm truly sorry.
HemelInstead
I think it's safer if you educate him about it first, and show him he'll have to notify you. And that everything changes once you turn 18.
Majorgrunt
It doesn't always change when you turn 18.
beanerschnitzle
My husband and I will have countless discussions with him, I want him to know beyond a doubt we have his back.
BlackJesus367
Well on the new show Gotham Bruce Wayne was bullied as a kid and Alfred taught Bruce to fight and Bruce kicked the bullie's ass...
BlackJesus367
Alfred stood there and watched too
beanerschnitzle
Honestly I am going to let my son try martial arts because there's a great deal of confidence in knowing how to defend yourself physically.
Volreed
He said "I remember my son getting hit by a friend and his ear drum ripping but I didn't think severely of it" WTF?
beanerschnitzle
Yeah if my kid gets hurt, I'm going to need a full account. No assumptions, I'm going to find out EVERYTHING.
CharmingAndSexyGentlemanStarshipCaptain
Militaristic attitude, so Korean kids love to play it rough.
DietCokeIsTheBest
I broke a friends collarbone by accident once, shit happens when you're kids
RedStarBeograd
My older sister got into BIG troubles because she took by the shoulders and shook a big fat girl that frequently kicked my little 1/2
beanerschnitzle
When my husband grew up it was a family understanding that you defend your family or you're the one in deep, deep trouble.
RedStarBeograd
nephew on his crotch. 2/2
Pekku
As someone who fears letting his mom know anything at all because she can make it his fault, I hope so too.
beanerschnitzle
My parents made me feel like I could tell them anything and they would save me, but I can't pinpoint why I felt that way, I just knew.
YouCantKeepJetpackingAwayFromYourProblemsBrian
(2) I told my Mom and Dad, and my Dad went and talked to his Dad and basically threatened them. Dude never picked on me again.
beanerschnitzle
That's the kind of guy my husband is, I pity the fool who decides to pick on my son one day.
itsGood4you
How about punishing the kid when their parents wont? Would you do that for your son? I would, I'd punish the parents too. Anonymously.
HighwayToTheDangerZone
if I found out this was being done to my child by one kid, let alone several...I would not hesitate to FUCK SHIT UP. big time. hard.
beanerschnitzle
As you should. I don't know you but I'd help you.
beanerschnitzle
I would unleash hell on anyone who messed with my kid or knew about it and turned a blind eye
WickedMatePutADonkOnIt
The bullies' parents also feel this way.
beanerschnitzle
Yes but I would hope I know what my son is capable of enough to know whether he's the victim or aggressor.
JerryF
I was bullied as a kid in grade and high school. It stopped when I went home though. I can't imagine the relentless bullying today.
SuperDuperMcPooper
Lucky
thegriffin88
Same. It make me want to kill those kids. That's sociopathic levels of curel.
JTaber615
idk how to describe what happened in high school but yeah i know those feels
CharmingAndSexyGentlemanStarshipCaptain
Are we glad living in an era before mobile phone was invented?
SuperDuperMcPooper
Lucky
shhhgraboids
Instant messaging was just becoming a thing at the peak of my years being bullied. I pity kids today.. :(
CinemaSloths
Story time! I was bullied in HS by these 2 guys because I wore a hippy outfit for an American history class. This kid came up and told (1/2)
CinemaSloths
the to fuck off. Didn't hear from them after that day. Hayden, if you happen to be on here, thanks again.
MeArePaige
Same here. I am SO grateful we didn't have facebook etc. It would have been so much worse.
Mos2414
I was bullied by an alcoholic step-mother at home, and at school until my parents were divorced. Best thing that ever happened in my life.
MeArePaige
Same here. I am SO grateful we didn't have facebook etc. It would have been so much worse.
quantumpacket
Mine starts when I get home .-.
heartbreak28
As an almost 30 year old woman who dealt with it at home and school, please remove yourself from the situation.
IOnceSawAMentallyHandicappedGuyPoopInADitchThatIDugAsAKid
I was also bullied in grade and high school. The bullying didnt stop at home because of my dad. I feel pure rage when i read thist post.
Alcard
They stopped bullying me when I chocked the shit outta one of them on a bus. It took 5 adults to pull me off of him. He had a mark for weeks
ConductorForTrainsHere
It never stopped for me... so I got bigger than my bullies, but it still never stopped my dad.
DrHey
That is so true. I could go home and enjoy life. It was like a shitty day at work. Now kids get harassed until 3am. Geez.
Rheios
In fairness its not quite as hard to avoid bullying at home, turn off the text ringer and ignore stupid messages. Its the next day after(1)
Rheios
that I imagine is the thing that keeps a person up.Fear.But that hasn't ever changed.There's always a next day without tech to remind you
DinglyDangler
It hasn't stopped for me yet. I escaped high school in hopes that it would leave. But it just won't.
YoureAGodDamnDirtyLiar
I've been saying this for yrs. Allowing kids the freedom of the 'net is also exposing them to scary behaviours that MUST be monitored.
powersock
Ok nsa
stabbedintheface
Ditto. Mine stooped when I grew a foot (to 6'5") and then finally kicked one of their asses.
saucysomeone
As a counselor, THIS. 24 hour access to each other, and no one can see it, and they're scared to tell. How can I help if I don't know?
CharmingAndSexyGentlemanStarshipCaptain
Because children living in their own social bubble. You have to treat them more as a friend than a student.
VaguelySatisfying
If I ever have kids, I'm teaching them not to give out their phone number and how to block bullies... On the internet and physically.
SuperDuperMcPooper
Lucky
killyourconscience
i was bullied for like a week in highschool yr7 so i took the bullies scissorsand stabbed myself in the hand told the teachers cops got
killyourconscience
involved he did like 3months of juvie and had to switch schools no one ever believed him that i did it i was preaty pleased
SuperDuperMcPooper
Lucky
DarkTurnip
Someone in my old school confronted a bully by breaking his jaw with a 2x4, the bullying stopped after that.
Cthulhuchooseyou
I was bullied from 4th grade into freshman in HS. It finally stopped when I kept standing up to him. I wish I could have held Kim's hand.
SuperDuperMcPooper
Lucky
SuperDuperMcPooper
Lucky
ssmud1
I was bullied too, it stopped when I busted a kids face up for it, broke his nose and busted a front tooth out of his mouth.
inthemorning
Fucking this! I mean, if you're hurt so much, you ponder suicide, get out and beat the shit out of your bullies. What's there to lose?
thegriffin88
It's like being in an abusive relationship, it makes you feel powerless. Man, I hope those kids from my school are dead now. Fuck them.
SuperDuperMcPooper
Lucky
VaguelySatisfying
I actually don't have much sympathy for kids who don't block bullies or even just turn their phone/laptop off. They DO have a choice.
VaguelySatisfying
It's like choosing to hang around behind the dumpster instead of in sight of teachers. Bullying is wrong,but FFS, don't be a goddamn victim.
nelshai
I believe the above kid would've had no choice. Note how he was threatened into giving updates every 20 minutes. It is likely that he feared
JerryF
Disconnect from the world due to a bully though? Why not just not go to school too? Would you shut off imgur?
VaguelySatisfying
We all agree schools should do way more to stop and prevent bullying. Blocking exists for a reason. There are plenty of things to do (1/?)
VaguelySatisfying
(4/4) one is clearly a dumber choice than the other (sans extenuating circumstances).
VaguelySatisfying
(3/?) immediate choices are to either hang around and be abused or move to another site/account that only their friends know about,
VaguelySatisfying
(2/?) in the world without a phone/computer. No kid should be forced to make the choice because of others' cruelty, but if the kid's
nelshai
(2) how they would beat him if he chose to block them.
VaguelySatisfying
I agree that it sounds like there were extenuating circumstances in the original post. My comment was a more general one :)
VaguelySatisfying
For example if you have the opportunity to block them before the bullying gets bad, you're often not worth the effort and they move on.
nelshai
(2) I imagine if I hadn't left him completely fucked up that I would've been mobbed, however.
VaguelySatisfying
to snap back at them at the right times to make them feel stupid and inadequate and hung around teachers and other adults. They gave up.
VaguelySatisfying
Sorry to hear that. Sounds like it had already gone beyond the point where ignoring would work. I was bullied pretty bad but I learned how
nelshai
Eh. I tried ignoring such things. Had a gang of 8 guys follow me home instead. So I smashed the oldest one into my fence until he bled.
Emig
As a parent, I fear this. Everyone failed him. Parents, teachers, peers.
Emig
Unfortunately it's not just bullies you need to worry about, it's also "friends" who are nice one day and cruel the next.
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RedStarBeograd
I know a dude that got stabbed on his rotula by a stupid slut, his knee was severely damaged and school didn't do a shit.
MetaphoricalFox
As a former bullied, I don't condone violence but if one must die, it shall be while defending his life. Never yield, never surrender.
MetaphoricalFox
This is what my parents taught me when they discovered that I was bullied.
SJDanie
I fear this as well. I have a daughter and she is in the middle, sometimes bullied and sometimes the bully. I hate all of it. but I can 1/2
SJDanie
only deal with when she is the one being mean and tell her to just walk away and avoid those picking on her when she is the victim.
Zer0mass
I'm not a parent and I understand that fear.
sebawlm
When I was bullied in HS, I didn't tell anyone, even when my mom asked. Apparently I didn't have to. When I left home to commit suicide (1)
sebawlm
it took about 10 minutes for her to catch up to me. She followed me for hours as I refused to talk. In the years since, I've been through(2)
sebawlm
numerous phases of depression (I'm bipolar), but even at my worst I can't bring myself back to that place because of that memory. (3)
sebawlm
Attentive parents make all the difference. I became a teacher so that I could maybe help those who lacked even that. (4)
oftenanidiot
As a teacher, I fear missing stuff like this.
UndercoverDumbledore
As a teacher, one of my biggest fears is missing something that leads to something like this.
Irishda
Puffin: And he failed them. He failed himself, most of all.
swatz
3>Kids feel completely helpless, just listen to them, and go to bat for them. I told mine to never start it, but finish it, and I'd stand <
stockbrokerjokersupersoaker
He Also failed himself
swatz
2>We've had bad luck with the school doing anything until I push the issue hard. I think that's why there are school shootings these days.
hagantic
My parents taught me to fight back but never start a fight. They taught me self respect that no one could take away. I love them for that.
scaperTM
Yep, the poor bastard was so alone
empt
and its not even that hard to fail someone this way... some people just cant talk about stuff like that
accipiter
I'm pissed that NOW everyone's putting down flowers, but where were they when he was being beaten? People knew, people saw, and did nothing.
windmillwindmill
No, he failed himself. How can he be helped if he doesn't reach out... I know how hard it can be to reach out though. =(
diditforbananas
Breaking my heart. I would have held his hand. I would hold anyone's hand. I'm here if you need me!
differently
the court.
thisusernamehasalreadybeentaken
Im surprised the kids did jail time...I find in North America, as a teacher, the most severe is usually expulsion--rarely juvie for bullying
DrMidnight
I found, as a student in North America, the most severe punishment is jack shit for the bully, and more (emotional) pain for the bullied.
thisusernamehasalreadybeentaken
You'er right, I've actually seen bullied kids suspended because they stood up to their bully and pushed back after no one else would. Shame
Millillion
This is why Zero Tolerance is almost as bad as doing nothing. ZT just means the bully knows the victim won't fight back.
ShakePlays
(1)I don't like to admit it - but I almost went a similar way, top of class and all. School admits just tried to sweep it under the rug.
ShakePlays
(2) every time it was reported, and somehow it escalated to me getting suspended for 1 hit back because "I know better"
CharmingAndSexyGentlemanStarshipCaptain
Schools are now less about educating children and more about a stepping stone for the headmaster to gain better position.
iknowitsextraforguac
3 years and his father didn't do anything? bad parenting
NotHarroc
If no one noticed and he never spoke up there was never any way for people to pull through for him.
FartedWhileMakingUpName
Thank you. The instance with the eardrum may have been the only one his parents noticed. So if he never said anything they wouldn't know.
FartedWhileMakingUpName
I don't want it to sound like victim-blaming it's just a possibility. Maybe the kids were just really good at hiding it and he kept silent.
accipiter
There's no WAY people didn't notice him getting beaten/abused by people. This didn't happen behind closed doors, it was at school, etc.
NotHarroc
The people who could have helped obviously didn't notice. Not talking about the people at his school obviously.
StormWingDelta
It isn't that they didn't notice. It's more like didn't do anything about it
ThomYorkesLeftEye
This is my biggest fear as well. At 6 years old my son was already bullied. He is now a junior orange belt in Ryu Karate and doing fine..
accipiter
I'm pissed that NOW everyone's putting down flowers, but where were they when he was being beaten? People knew, people saw, and did nothing.
Emig
Yes!!!
CharmingAndSexyGentlemanStarshipCaptain
"They are good kids" "They don't deserve it" "Why it happened to them?" I hate those kind of bullshits. Fucking bystanders done nothing.
hoofbeatsandsnowflakes
"why did this happen to them?" Because you fucking turned your back and didn't pay attention to the signs.
RancorSlayer
As a Highschool student and wrestler I don't allow bullying where I am at. I don't care who you are, I will stop you
doyouwantantsbecause
Thank you.
WouldYouLikeSomeBaileysImOldGregg
Good job! Most idiots cheer it on or just stand by and watch. You are a better person than you probably know.
boredombroughtmehear
You can't be everywhere all the time thanks for helping where you can but the best option is to take the time to say hello and (1/2)
boredombroughtmehear
Acknowledge everyone from a kid that used to consider suicide everyday all it takes sometimes is for someone to say hi and joke with you
StabbyAlligator
When I was bullied, I learned my reaction didn't matter. What caused it was the bully's friends laughing. Don't laugh.
dogenuggets
Bullies are usually trying to feel some kind of control because they lack it elsewhere. A bully's friend is the weakest person of all.
StabbyAlligator
Sometimes it was the well liked kids though. The ones who had tons of friends... :(
dogenuggets
The cynical side of me wants to say what did they do to be "well liked", the positive, maybe they don't realise what their "friend" is like.
Pumpkinbot
I like you.
swatz
Good job, I was the same, but now my kids school tell them they'll get expelled. My son and daughter have felt the system fails them. Go U!
LordXeen
Same man, people don't like to mess with 6'4 hockey players :p
RancorSlayer
Shit son... I'm only 5'7
woodzilla
This is so rare
IDrawPokemon
As a high schooler who sees bullying and used to be bullied, Thank you.
LeftCollectionBlueBird
Yep. I faced expulsion for getting two of our schools teachers fired. For months they tried to convince everyone I blacked out and got 1/2
LeftCollectionBlueBird
violent. All students were at my side. They were fired because people in the classes reported the teachers daily, but nothing was done.
TurdsOfWisdom
So you bully bullies? Just kidding, that's great man. Keep in mind that bullying can stem from abuse/neglect at home. Have some compassion
tigrrrrrr
Fair enough, bullies have problems and need help too, but that doesn't mean you let them continue to bully. You should still stop them.
TurdsOfWisdom
This is very true. I didn't mean to say it like that is what I meant. I meant don't use TOO much force and assertion when dealing with them
tigrrrrrr
Yeah I agree you should know when enough's enough. But in the context of the story, it's a real fucking shame nobody stopped these bullies.
Dawnstempest
I'm sorry, that home stuff is crap. I came from a very broken home, and I NEVER bullied anyone. If anything it made me hate bullies more.
TurdsOfWisdom
Did I say being in a broken home means you'll be a bully? I'm saying that bullies can come from broken homes.
diam0ndd0g
This. Using the whole "they came from a family that hurt them so its understandable they hurt others" argument always bothered me.
hagantic
I was big and bullied too so I literally said pick on someone your size. I was stronger than evey one and they knew it. Felt good (1/?)
hagantic
Stopping the cycle and getting back at bullies. I kinda bullied the bullies and it felt great. Thanks to all those that do the same.
WouldYouLikeSomeBaileysImOldGregg
My bullying as a child stopped when my parents finally saw the problem and signed me up for martial arts classes.
lizzieskwrl
Same. Martial arts does wonders for self-esteem and learning restraint. It also does wonders for knocking down assholes who beat up 8 y/olds
ColossalTitan
Mine stopped when I found he also constantly committed sexual assault on my friend and I beat the bloody hell out of him.
docweird
1/My experience was "peace through violence".Every time someone tried, I singled out 1 of them and gave back.Also took on older/bigger guys.
docweird
2/After a while they realized there were easier targets than the guy who made sure one of them was hurt too. The "crazy one".
docweird
Also helped that I had 3 years of two different martial arts behind me at age 14 or so.
WouldYouLikeSomeBaileysImOldGregg
I think I'm a little lucky in that my bullies stopped after the very first time I finally stood up for myself and fought back.
hagantic
I was just a big mofo that used pressure points instead of body slams that scared them the most. Power AND precision saved my ass.
ShakePlays
My 6 years of torment stopped when I broke the nose of the one that laid a hand on my gf. Guess who was the only one who was punished? -.-
TheCrownedUnicorn
shouldn't have left it at his nose buddy
ShakePlays
He didn't leave it at that.. He arranged for 62-68 people to jump me. (Didn't work, that many people can't keep quiet) and he still got noth
lapus
1/? As a parent/teacher/child it bothers me how everyone was pissed that people are bringing flowers. The father stated "i knew he was beat
lapus
to rip his eardrum and i FORGAVE HIM for getting treatment" I think the poor kid was abused at home and felt he deserved what he got. Ever
lapus
is bullied at some point in their lives. I feel two things need to be done.. teach defense and copying mechanisms AND deal with the bully
lapus
they either need help themselves or need to be taught how to be a decent human. Rant over.
FaxCelestis
I got bullied for seven years of grade school (2nd through 8th), and when I stood up to one of my bullies in 5th grade, I got sent to (1)
Emig
I am , and I will. I wish I had something funny to say to lighten all your feels. I hope it gets better for you.
FaxCelestis
suspension, and I now have fairly severe social anxiety and trust issues that directly lead to me failing out of college. My school did (4)
FaxCelestis
anger management classes, while he got a stern warning. The next time I stood up, I got suspended and he got sent to the nurse's office (2)
FaxCelestis
but with no other repercussions. Among other things, I nearly broke my foot on a brick wall trying to keep myself from another (3)
FaxCelestis
donations to the school annually. So that's my story. If and when you parent, teach your kids that bullying is wrong, please. It (6)
FaxCelestis
nothing, and my parents were thwarted directly by the school at every turn, probably because my bullies' parents made rather hefty (5)
FaxCelestis
destroys--and takes--lives. (7)
CharmingAndSexyGentlemanStarshipCaptain
Why not expose his family? Shame him and his family for using family money and influence.
FaxCelestis
Not only was this twenty years ago, what proof can I garner?
CharmingAndSexyGentlemanStarshipCaptain
Nothing, just personal satisfaction.
Somarlane
The system failed. In the U.S., a student who stands up to being bullied suffers the same punishment as the one who did the bullying.
swatz
The schools are telling our kids to cover their face and run to a teacher, but then they're not following up. I could go on and on, but <
Kolukonu
I was bullied by one kid constantly, he thought I was weak. Until one day in gym, I threw the kickball as hard as I could and... 1/2
Kolukonu
Hit him square in the balls. I was known as the bowler in HS. I walked up to him and said "pretty good for a bowling jock huh?"
Kolukonu
He left me alone after that, and even went so far to avoid me.
swatz
4>with them, even if it was in court. Some taunting can be ignored, we have to toughen up, but once they touch you or destroy property. NO
TammySilverwolf
I'm not a parent, but I've come really close to suicide myself-- I still haven't ruled it out, but for very different reasons. (cont.)
TammySilverwolf
You're right, he was failed and it's horrible. . . If not for my own support network, I'd have already done it, too. Even a stanger's smile-
TammySilverwolf
-can have untold reprocussions. . . Someone coming in annd telling you it's okay. It's a start. One many don't get.
ChangingMyNameToTim
If you are a bully, fuck you.
StringNotFound
The internet is full of bullies. :/
ArcticAppa
I can't upvote this enough
AnalFuz
Tim is a bully name.
CaptainBlockedPunt
Yeah! Let's make bullying kill itself! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_oHnlv56aU
MethodInMadness
YOU! I nominate you for President of something!
operationfiscaljackhammer
You tell em Tim.
StereotypicalWhiteGirl
Don't be a bully...
sirrichardbottoms
Nah,people now are so sentimental. Get over it,what does the opinion on one person matter so much.
n7warrior
I'm sure there are a lot of bullies on imgur right now. We need to post more stories like this to increase awareness.
RagDollz
Everyone can be a bully in any form... its HOW you deal with it
itsGood4you
Bullies will read that and laugh at you... Bullies know only one thing - fear. Find out what they're insecure about and pound them with it.
Virtika
A thousand times this.
m0ckingy0u
Yeah! That'll show em! End bullying with more harsh words!!!
KrazyKirby
Fire might work a bit better...
Xanuthatusu
i remember i was bullied in grade school, but then i got a lick of power and loved it, i became a bully... I remeber the worst feeling was->
Xanuthatusu
waking up and realizing what i had become. the worst feeling of my life to this day was that feeling, that i hurt so many people.
hogjockey
And you'll never be able to repair that hurt.
boxotron
Bullying is essential. Fuck you if you can't handle it.
TheSolePurposeOfMyAccountIsToFavoriteNSFW
Go suck a nice soggy, veiny dick, asshole.
boxotron
See, you are getting this bullying thing down great! Isn't it fun?
TheSolePurposeOfMyAccountIsToFavoriteNSFW
Defending someone from a douche isn't bullying.
crablegsANDsoup
Fuck you. I bet you're a bully. So yeah, fuck you!
OmegasParadox
By saying that you are also partaking in bulling language. Bullying must be solved with compassion, understanding, baseball bats. Oh fuck it
Wombatish
There's bullying because it's the only fucked up way you know to interact with people due to upbringing. But there's also bullying (1/?)
Wombatish
(2/?) because you're a mean little shit, sometimes regardless of upbringing. And tons of grey in between, like undiagnosed sociopathic tend.
NoItsACardiganButThanksForNoticing
They start young. Even parents that teach their kids to be nice have little power over the social power that comes with school and peers
Garce
Speaking of age, how can you be a 16yo freshman?
MadeNewAccountOutOfShameOfMyFirstPost
I remember in elementary I used to be a bully. I was bullied myself and this was the one kid that the other kids didn't like either (1/?)
MadeNewAccountOutOfShameOfMyFirstPost
I always thought I had it bad but this kid was bullied BY the most bullied. He had absolutely zero friends but the thing was, every (2/?)
MadeNewAccountOutOfShameOfMyFirstPost
Day this kid came in to school and would greet me. I never thought much of him except that I could temporarily get the approval of (3/?)
MadeNewAccountOutOfShameOfMyFirstPost
The other kids when I did something horrible to him. The moment I realised how terrible I was being was when he once said, (4/?)
MadeNewAccountOutOfShameOfMyFirstPost
"But why? But today's my birthday!" (5/5)
MadeNewAccountOutOfShameOfMyFirstPost
In that moment, I realised everyone is still a person
ProfessorZeus
This needs to be an unpopular opinion puffin
hiyourehandsome
There is nothing that will ever make bullying ok
TurdsOfWisdom
What about bullying Hitler?
partizanparticlecookery
Yeah, still not okay.
Ihavewaytoomanyfavoritestosort
That's probably what caused Hitler to become Hitler
TurdsOfWisdom
Most people have bullied someone before. Let's not act holier than thou. This is an extreme case, but I bullied and WAS bullied. 1/2
Flyndaran
Bullshit. I never bullied anyone, and I refuse to believe I'm a rare unicorn.
TurdsOfWisdom
I took what I learned from both sides of it and became a much better person. Bullying is a complicated thing unfortunately. 2/2
Fingers0689
I agree completely, was guilty of bullying, then bullied for other things later in life.
AngryDane
Everyone's a bully to someone.
SirAwesomeTheThird
Bullying is a very complicated problem and this is a very bad approach to it.
flapperfemmefatale
you're right. no one should ever fuck a bully. let them die alone.
TheBridgeburners
There is NO excuse for bullying. There is always a choice. And they make it. So fuck them.
SirAwesomeTheThird
I speak as a person who has been very bullied but who has, for some dumb reason, also bullied. There's more to it than just a choice. 1/2
cinnewyn
I haven't bullied anyone myself, but I've suffered depression since I was 14 (18yrs now) because I was bullied at school for 6 yrs. (1)
cinnewyn
I agree with you. Some bullies do it because they're putting up with bad stuff at home. E.g. drunk parent, physical or sexual abuse. (2)
SirAwesomeTheThird
It's like telling an alcoholic to stop drinking because it's bad for him and the people around him. There's more to it than that. 2/2
TheBridgeburners
You have a valid point. However, even an addict has a choice. There is always choice. For some ppl that choice may be easy, and for (1/?)
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SirAwesomeTheThird
Bullying is more than just punching people. Words, gestures, not letting people into your "group". Things you might not even be aware of.
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SirAwesomeTheThird
Some people have a hard time putting themselves in other people's position. Especially when it comes to bullying at a young age. 1/2
GrinchyM
As someone else who has been bullied, please take your own advice and shut up. Bullying is awful, but it's not as simple as this person is/1
GrinchyM
good, and this person is bad. Human nature rarely is. Sure, some bullies bully because they want something, but others don't know why they/2
GrinchyM
do it. They just do. SirAwesome is right, there are two sides.
TurdsOfWisdom
It's not simple at all. Sorry you were bullied. A lot of bullying can stem from them getting "bullied" at home aka abuse/neglect.
mrgurth1
Idk maybe I'm wrong and just cant wrap my head around it. In my mind I just cant treat people bad who treat me bad.
TurdsOfWisdom
Yes because you were probably raised in a healthy environment with a loving family. Most bullies have abusive asshole parents
KoopaTroopas
Have some human decency and don't treat someone like a piece of shit. Nothing else to it
harlem
Exactly why this is a bad approach. Bullying is often because they are treated like shit at home or wherever else.
TurdsOfWisdom
So you're saying fuck people for being treated like shit at home and then projecting it elsewhere because they don't know how to handle it?
Ootfan5
No, hes saying that flat out saying fuck you to them is pointless. that's just another type of bullying.
LopsidedStapler
It doesn't come from nowhere, though. They're often abused by their parents; bullies themselves are usually victims, as well. It's a cycle
Flyndaran
Bull. I've known assholes from good parents. Some people are born/choose to be nasty fuckers.
LopsidedStapler
That's true. But most of the time, they learn these things from their parents or someone else at home. Notice I said "often," not "always".
LopsidedStapler
www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUvFeyGxaaU
TurdsOfWisdom
I was bullied as a TAG (talented and gifted) student called a TAG fag. When I dropped out I participated in bullying because I felt 1/2
TurdsOfWisdom
entitled in a way since I took it for so long. It IS a complicated thing, and things like fitting in and reputation complicate it 2/2
KoopaTroopas
Treating someone like shit because you were is no excuse. It's goes back to having some decency and not continuing the cycle
SirAwesomeTheThird
If your parents don't care about you and all you get is hate at home, anger might build up inside you and this anger might steam off in 1/=
SirAwesomeTheThird
the shape of bullying. Often bullies feel very bad about themselves too. English is not my native language, but I hope you get my point.2/2
Sacurason
Sure, sure. But honestly, the only other approach is therapy. Good luck with that.
SirAwesomeTheThird
There are other ways. But sure, tell our kids at school not to be dicks and bullying might go away. It has clearly worked well so far.
shadowex3
Think about this the next time you see someone calling someone else "neckbeard" or similar.
doomslayerlulz
Pretty much, yeah.
ArcticAppa
I can't upvote this enough
MeanBlack
South park bully.
rorinyanknits
Alright. Wasn't planning to live through the next year anyway, but if it makes you feel better.
nkaplan89
We should find them and beat them up
SomethingCleverBand
It's a very vicious cycle. They probably do it as a perpetuation of abuse. No one wins.
megkat
With stuff like this, it's easy to react with anger. But Kim's last letter was about love and that's what we should really focus on
Brainchow
Yes, he has moved on and all we can do is learn from this. Let's try to prevent these situations wherever we live.
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megkat
"The best revenge is to be unlike him who performed the injury.” - Marcus Aurelius
Danowar1990
Unless you bully people for weight problems, because that's ok, right imgur? Its ok to bully people with different challenges than you.
TurdsOfWisdom
Damn, rekt. Too bad you'll get downvoted even though it's totally true. People on imgur bully people all the time.
SatanLordOfUpvotes
They just don't realise it because they might not even see the person ever again, or, just because its online. It's still bullying..
Flyndaran
Too many fat haters are a-holes. Calling texts from strangers bullying's an insult to those really bullied: I almost wrote slap in the face.
nickragano10
Fuck them all.
AlwaysWhisper
that's how they became bullies in the first place. lack of love.
TheAccursedOne
It seems that bullied people that have a chance at power over someone else will take the power more often than not as well.
AlwaysWhisper
its an endless loop. Victims of bullying have higher chance of being a bully in the future than those who werent bullied.
JonSnowAKAAegonTargaryen
It was satisfying to put mine in the hospital. Though it was five years later and I was starting in military. Once a bully, always a bully.
ialwaysupvotecyanideandhappiness
Especially Dan.
Sasarious
now your bullying :D
cbjfan
Yeah fuck dan
Xilef2468
Dan's the worst. With all his... umm... danning, yeah, danning. And stuff...
captainsuperdawg
Yeah, because it's not like the bullying ever stems from abuse they suffer or anything...
gudemonster
You barked up a Tumblr anti-bully tree. I am sorry for your downvotes ahead of time :(
nickragano10
Yes. Sometimes that is the case and sometimes its not. Im sure he is talking about those not in that situation.
cookobus
I'd love to hear stories from that kind of bullies. Their reasons for their actions, what did they feel when they were bullying someone etc.
thefrompleman
The 3 bullies I knew from my school were all spoilt brats, just sayin
AetherMcLoud
I was bullied for more than 4 years yet I never bullied someone after that myself. Just because you're abused doesn't mean you have to, too.
captainsuperdawg
I agree. But if we could work to stop it from even happening in the first place, everyone wins. Punish for the deeds, sure, but we need to>>
captainsuperdawg
also keep in mind that a lot of bullies likely suffered and could use some help too, to prevent it from happening further.
theclocker
Fuck you too, i was bullied for over 4 years and thought about killing my self for 2 years, i don't give a shit why people bully.
captainsuperdawg
So you're saying that you'd rather be petty because of bad experiences than try and help everyone out? I was bullied too. I'm not excusing>>
captainsuperdawg
their behavior, but it's likely your bullies suffered abuse at home akin to what you suffered. Why not help them, and keep the bullying>>>
theclocker
id rather help the bullied than the bully, i'm not petty i'm pissed that people actually think first about the bully's problems..
policetruck
That doesn't make it okay.
captainsuperdawg
I'm not saying it does. But shouldn't we look to maybe help them as well, so the bullying stops altogether, instead of just punishing it?
policetruck
I agree. Punishment doesn't usually help anyone. It needs to be paired with positive examples and reinforcement.
TurdsOfWisdom
Of course not, but that means that the bullies are getting bullied at home and just don't know how to deal with neglect/abuse. It's not B&W
Mogmai
Although their pasts are something to be noted, that doesn't at all justify bullying.
captainsuperdawg
Not saying it does. But the knee jerk reaction of "FUCK THE BULLIES" when they have underlying issues says something too.
TownsendV228
A lot of bullies don't actually have underlying issues. I've known a lot of bullies who bully in order to "fit in", to experience (1)
ialwaysupvotecyanideandhappiness
Hey fuck you. Don't bully me into agreeing with you.
TownsendV228
a sense of power, and since they just simply dislike the person. (2)