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Source: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-middle-east-41951237/saudi-arabia-and-iran-will-they-go-to-war
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Source: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-middle-east-41951237/saudi-arabia-and-iran-will-they-go-to-war
rhombusrightangle
with so many rivals and the pressures of the outside leaders the crown Prince pulled off one of histories great consolidations of power
Arock77
tacoparlor
Once again this is why I'm moving to Norway. Scandinavians stayin the fuck outta this middle school bullshit.
movethebongos
We don’t “stay out of it” but we learn in in middle school and not via gif on imgur - so we got that going for us :)
waspy17
Source: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-middle-east-41951237/saudi-arabia-and-iran-will-they-go-to-war
CotterPyke
fuck the both of them. never happen.
sCarLoL
As a Saudi, I really hope not, I'm currently boosting accounts on LoL and I can't risk stopping, it's my main income, also my final year in/
sCarLoL
college. Plz stop.
WorldsSmallestMegaDick
It's called arabia, the saudi are just the people who rule it.
waspy17
Didn't know that, thanks.
DrMaggot
Saudi Arabia only recently thought itseld the leader of the muslim world. Egypt was most certainly leading until Nasser failed his goals. 1
DrMaggot
Saudi Arabia was really beyond until very recently (speaking of few decades) its only been since the 70' they started stepping forward.
Byondhelp
Wow - you can really see the British accent on that guy, even without sound.
dejavutoyoutoo
"If they wur to go to wore, it would be cato-storphic..."
StunnedGoofy
INNNevitahBLh.
letsnotbegarbagepeopleandlookatpuppiesandothercuteanimals
Yes. Why is that? I looked at him and thought English.
bezuer
40 years? Everyone in the middle east hast been struggling for power for THOUSANDS OF YEARS. Since they invented civilization basically
Tarlon
Geopolitical divides with religious overtones stemming from political divides. Confused yet?
BandiMoonDriver
Free oil for the rest of the world
OneOneNiner
+1 For updating me on the current world's affairs
agmannen
Iran is shite hehe, no but seriously this was very informative
movethebongos
Pronounced “she” (as in “her”) - “aight”
JazzyDong
The biggest crowd in human history until Trump's inauguration, of course.
HopScotchMcGoggins
I read this twice by accident. I guess history really does repeat itself.
KingoftheCommentLurkers
ACanadianPerson
You didn’t set a timer for 3 minutes?
AbsolutelyNotTheNSA
Huh, déjà vu.
BoltActionGearbox
Huh, déjà vu
AbsolutelyNotTheNSA
Duh, heva ju
Raz0rking
an by both going to war there would be even a bigger proxy going on, wouldnt it?
goodjobmyfellowman
Khomeini's reign was mainly based on pain.
TexasBaconMan
Why do people have to be enemies when they are different? Can't we just leave each other alone?
Morteh
Just because you don't like Iran doesn't mean you can call them all shiite!
MrDent42
Source?
waspy17
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-middle-east-41951237/saudi-arabia-and-iran-will-they-go-to-war
inquirerofquantumstuff
I have high hopes for the current crown prince of SA. If you haven't heard about him, look him up he has already done pretty awesome things.
inquirerofquantumstuff
For instance, it was his orders that let women drive. He is openly opposed to the current religious leaders, stating they should go back 1/?
inquirerofquantumstuff
To a more moderate view of Islam that is open to others. He is leading a task force to shake corruption out of the country, ect.
complimentpin
cool!
XxVoidCowboyxX
so SA were the best muslims and then Iran comes over with some Idol and say we have better ones and now they fight whose a better muslim?
HellYeahDude
In all honesty the western world wouldn't give a shit if it weren't for all the oil.
mrorange1750
How many folk are gonna die before abody recognises that we're all fucked, and it's better to go out loving, than bickering
ausaur
Apparently iran is shit
SprinklesMckitten
Sunni shiite split occurred over successor to the prophet Mohamed and developed into different sects. Surprising result like Christianity
TheFrenchGirl
Humans always seek a reason to split into different groups and fight each other, religion is just one of a tool.
Barkinsons
I think in both cases the root may be theological, but the mayhem it caused/causes is purely political
00r3d
Sunni Shiite may better be equated to the orthodox and Catholic differences. In part, by who the decisions and power was held
namiasdf
Though Protestantism was a pragmatic response to Catholism. Sunni-Shite split is a traditional one.
PresidentSkroob
Correct, protestantism was an attempt to go back to the core of christianity. The roman catholic church was too much of a political power
Satherian
Also, they were upset with certain practices of the church (like being able to pay money to cleanse your sins)
root1657
Jesus wasn't too keen on that either.
Satherian
Yeah, but you know how much people love to ignore the parts of the Bible where it says "Don't be a dick"
namiasdf
The political part is correct. Having a central authority in Rome, dictating over Baltic/Nordic/British states was less than ideal.
hofbrauhauss
Religion is great. Solves everything
Barkinsons
I'm pretty sure the same conflict would exist under different prefixes if there was no religion
ender00000
Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful. — Seneca
MayuAchi
Religion being used in politics is what's shit. Religion being practiced in private is as harmless as getting pizza with pineapples.
squidmaster42
I happen to like pizza with pineapples
SamaelTheVenomOfGod
That's a nice axe you've got there, have you tried grinding it?
westmd
It doesn't solve your Mom's fat ass though does it?
Idownvotewatches
There's plenty of people who worship at that alter.
IongtimeIurker
As a British person I totally hold our governments of the past responsible for a lot of the issues we are seeing in the region today.
waspy17
And I totally hold the Americans responsible for discovering oil in that region in 1938. No oil, no money, no fighter planes and tanks.
IongtimeIurker
I imagine I'll get downvoted for this.
EricSieracki
without the oil money, they would just be hacking each other apart with machetes.
IongtimeIurker
Except those countries didnt really exist as countries till the British divided them up along lines that were beneficial for us.
muffmunchkin
Black cube worship is Saturn worship. Look into it, it's interesting.
IamNOTatomato12
What constitutes Uranus Woship?
Chagum
I don't know if you are trying to make a Saturn/Satan pun or being serious, but Muslims don't pray to the cube, jus the meteor in one corner
muffmunchkin
Some say Saturn represents satan, I'm skeptical about everything, but cube symbolism has strong connections with abrahamic religions.
muffmunchkin
If you open up a cube you get cross. I'm serious btw. Wondering where people send this energy when praying, who does the harvest.
TheGhostofElizabethShue
...so why the cube?
muffmunchkin
Saturn has a storm looks like the eye. It's hexagon which makes a 3d cube.
etcnotect
They play Mario Kart on it
TheGhostofElizabethShue
Smart.
Gunthex
Oh.
Wellhereiamagain
Can a mf get an explanation or a source?
muffmunchkin
Google saturn death cult, there is one dedicated site with good info, think it's orange/black. Most others seem to be disinfo.
Lifk
The relic inside is a supposed meteor. This black cube is a sacred place in islam and people are gathering and walk around massively.
Lifk
There is few and selected people that have been able to study this stone scientificaly so every affirmation about it is difficult to prove.
eggmuffin
"The black cube" is the Kaaba. They don't worship the Kaaba, it's just a reliquary.
Lifk
Wrll i was speaking about the stone exposed inside. Sorry about the shortcut.
JMensch
Can't we just blame the British? They were the ones that supported the creation of an independent Arab identity to over throw the Ottomans
Chagum
Arabs and Persians have been ethnic enemies for millenia. Same with Greeks and Turks etc
JMensch
Then went back on those deals with the Arabs, made deals with Zionist Jews, went back on those deals, and made deals with France on the
JMensch
partitioning of the Middle East.
skooterLaughin
So we can blame the French, right?
rustybronco
Ya'll need a history lesson. It's complicated, Britain didn't create the problem but they definitely didn't help. The boarders they drew,
rustybronco
Probably made sense geographically but never considered social or religious divides. Also it was common practice in colonies to install
rustybronco
Indigenous governments picking the lightest coloured skin group to lead. It wasn't a utopia before UK but they definitely made it worse.
waspy17
Can't we just blame the Americans? For discovering oil in that region in 1938. No oil, no money, no fighter planes and tanks.
EricSieracki
People already blame America for everything, why not this?
waspy17
I don't really blame the Americans, was just replying to anti-British post
jdeman
Still the British, it was the Brits that convinced the US to overthrow Iran's democracy which paved the way for Islamic Revolution in Iran
waspy17
So why did the British want to overthrow the democracy?
jdeman
Iran nationalised it's oil which was owned by the brits. Brits didn't like the idea of Iran getting all that oil money instead of them.
jdeman
The shah, Iran monarchy, would support foreign ownership of the oil fields. America/Brits preferred the shah over the democratic government
waspy17
So the British are to blame that Sunnis and Shiites can't get along?
complimentpin
what jmensch said also they support saudi and basically caused the revolution. Saying this as a brit. It was a long time ago though
torokunai
while "blame" is tough to pinpoint, they sure did a lot of fuckery there -- carving Kuwait off of Iraq, '53 Iran Coup, 2003 Iraq invasion
TheGhostofElizabethShue
Mmm, the 2003 British invasion of Iraq, I remember it well.
torokunai
53 KIA the first year, they occupied the Basrah area.
JMensch
They certainly didn't help the situation. Making all of X into one state and all of Y into another state isn't a recipe for peace.
BatmanAndCradleRobin
To my understanding brits created Iraq, they just merged 3 totally different groups that hated each other and said this is Iraq
ThereAreSomeWhoCallMe
Syria is a mix and isn't doing very well either. Neither is Iraq. So it appears there is no recipe for peace
JMensch
You can see this in another British creation called Pakistan.
charlie2979
Wasn't pakistan created to stop the Hindus massacring the Muslims though?