And so it begins...

Nov 28, 2017 9:23 PM

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/11/comcast-throttling-bittorrent-was-no-big-deal-fcc-says/

Hold onto your butts everyone cause its gonna be a wild ride.

i'm not encouraging it, but if ajit pai got mule kicked in the fucking balls, no big deal....

8 years ago | Likes 23 Dislikes 1

This article needs to be read. I haven't seen it yet and it says a whoooole bunch

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I use deluge for uh... downloading linux distributions. It's much better than bit torrent and has no ads since it's open source.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

America should really revive tar and feathering.

8 years ago | Likes 30 Dislikes 1

Again it's corporates over the people in America

8 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 1

Sure, if you ignore all the evidence stating the contrary and common sense, then yeah, there's no proof/reason ISP's will throttle the net

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8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

so ... you gon use your second amandment to protect your rights? or only to shoot schools and black guys..?

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Wouldn't it be funny if it's THIS shit that sparks an actual revolt?

8 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

So, when do we overthrow our corrupt government?

8 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

Internet in the US is só fucked up. I pay the equivalent of 40 dollars for 120 mb. I live in a 3rd world country.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

They did this once, like ten years ago, to ease upload congestion. That's one of maybe two times any ISP ever did anything like this.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

So if he says they won't throttle, then when they inevitably do can we put Ajit Pai in jail for lying to everyone?

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 2

Sure, just put every other politician in there with him. Oh, and former President - I liked my plan, but couldn't keep my plan...

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

"Murdering people isn't murder" - murderer.

8 years ago | Likes 39 Dislikes 1

I'm sure this is a legitimate legal defense in some state.

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

They don't just throttle they threaten to cancel your service if you are caught using it.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I mean, so it continues, really.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

The FCC won't let me be...

8 years ago | Likes 16 Dislikes 1

Won't let me be me so let me see

8 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 1

But it feels so empty without mom's spaghetti

8 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 2

Says - The Ministry of Truth

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

Chocolate rations are up.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

If you bit torrent without a VPN you are at risk of action from the FBI so throttling should be the last of your worries. Get a fucking VPN.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

you know bit torrent isn't illegal right? like its used in game launchers, app updaters, etc. its great for distributing large files.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

VPN's sadly will not stop the throttle due to the information still having to go through the isp on its way back to you.

8 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

There is no guarantee it will help either way an ISP can just as easily throttle some or all VPNs

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Time to fuckin rage

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

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This guy was first appointed by Obama and he is a Nazi? Retard

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8 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

This isn't realistic at all. His mouth can take much larger dicks then that.

8 years ago | Likes 19 Dislikes 0

Those teeth probably get in the way.

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I thought the Nazis hated jews

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

What does that mean

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

Comcast can control the connection speed people will have when go to certain sites. Throttling is when they make it very slow.

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

Also, they can throttle people's overall connection speed to "minimize network congestion".

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

Ah I thought it said bit coin thank you

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I haven’t had that problem, but I’m BitTorrenting completely legal stuff.

8 years ago | Likes 24 Dislikes 5

Comcast still throws interrupt bits every once in awhile when I'm torrenting, and I've never gotten up to my supposed download cap speed.

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

They don't discriminate

8 years ago | Likes 24 Dislikes 0

I'd lose speed connecting all the way to America anyway.

8 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 1

Can't wait for Elon musk to fly over in his spaceship and make a new internet

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I trust benevolent oligarchs even less.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

Don’t you mean the muskynet?

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Make our own internet, with blackjack and hookers!

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

How do we ask him to just go ahead and do it?

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Tag him in Twitter. It's the way of the future

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Does that mean that it passed?

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Hi. I'm from 2024 and Elon Musk is proving he's no business genius, among other things.

2 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I don't think he's a genius, but fuck it if he isn't the ONLY PERSON who CAN do something, who is ACTUALLY DOING SOMETHING.

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

With blackjack... and hookers

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Honestly, if startup ISPs could more easily thrive, there would be no need for net neutrality cuz everyone would leave comcast instantly.

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Only if he stops throwing all his money away on the crappy cars they make

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Or you can do it. Why can't someone like you invent something awesome? I believe you can do it.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Good Ol Muskie

8 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

Isnt he alrdy on it, Outernet? Or was that a project of someone else?

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Teslanet

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Would he be allowed to do that? As in make something new and separate from whats already there?

8 years ago | Likes 24 Dislikes 0

I'm not positive, but I think the fcc regulates frequencies, which elon would need to broadcast satellite internet

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Why wouldn't he be.. he's basically 2017 Jesus so far

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Why not? Who's going to stop him?

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I, for one, will welcome the Elonet.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I don't understand how the government can regulate the internet is literally billions of private owned servers.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

"The Internet"? No. the ISP running one wire to your home? That's relatively easy regulation. That's where Title II is relevant.

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Well if they can make more money we are screwed greedy runs this world.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I will so be all over that shit. He should start a donation page so we can help speed it up.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Santa muskie

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Popular science once had an article about how the internet could basically be made free for everyone you just pay for the power of ur modem

8 years ago | Likes 12 Dislikes 0

Any sauce by chance?

8 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

I wish especially with whats going on bright now. From what I remember tho it was something like daisychaining modems together

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Saw this yesterday. Made sure someone else didn't post it first. Turns out you did. Congrats on your upvotes.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Upvote

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Honestly, until their banned, a locally formed internet is probably going to be the best option for us all.

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How do we access that?

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

With Hookers and Blackjack

8 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 1

Made me think BBS, bulletin board service. They're extinct now. In the old days that's that was there to use. Long live the Sysops!!

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Right think of how advance that tech could be in a small scale, like a private bbs for a small town.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I live an hour from the nearest metropolitan center. It's ATT, Spectrum, satellite or directed wireless. I'll have to pick speed or freedom.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

And they will find a way to ban it just to force you to buy from them.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

They did it with radio wave frequencies... HAM radios a big no no

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

So we know they'll do it with the internet and it'll be legal they need to be stopped now and forever because they'll keep on trying

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Then Comcast will sue in a battle they can't win but that bankrupts the local organization.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

FCC is already telling states that FCC rules need to apply to even municipal internet services.

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FCC rules dont say they're required to play favorites. Local could still choose to be neutral. Would still be up to trust, but it's possible

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Yup but they told them not to let people smoke pot and that worked so well. It's up to the states to hold their ground now.

8 years ago | Likes 40 Dislikes 0

No, 10th Amendment

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

I’m honestly kinda curious about this, I know how to make an intranet (not that it’s hard in any way), but the main problem would be 1/2

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Broadcast range (at least that I can think of). You can use blank pc towers as servers, but routers only broadcast so far. Would the 2/3

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Jerry rigged phone antennas work? And if so, is there another option to transmit with them than satellites, since I’m not guessing we can3/4

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Use any of those

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

They've already sorta banned competition by making it illegal to lay new cables in certain regions, essentially banning new companies

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In the perfect world, repealing net neutrality would be a laughing stock decision that just hemorrhage’s millions of dollars

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In all fairness, in a perfect world where the isp's truly wanted only whats best for the customer, the repeal would be a good thing. 1/2

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Honestly it wouldn't even matter what their intentions were. In a perfect world, there'd be enough competition to encourage not throttling

8 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 1

That however is obviously not the case as they've made clear in their past actions... a former head of Verizon cant have an unbias say...

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In a perfect world where ISPs actually cared, NN as a law wouldn't exist at all because there would be no need for it.

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

ISPs can throttle you for "not being a subscriber" if you pass through their nodes. Nothing is safe, I am Canadian and think that these ...

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

regulations will affect me, and Canadian business' as American ISPs can attack internet companies this way, it should be banned under NAFTA.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Stop. A ISP is selling bandwith to you that they buy from a carrier. A Carrier is NOT allowed that shit. If you have a good ISP, content 1/?

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I really hope he's getting enough money to ignore how he's making him and his family, children included, famous historical pariahs.

8 years ago | Likes 336 Dislikes 8

He is. Probably tens of millions at least.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Wife and 2 kids. I pity them. Even if it turns out he does (as is likely) raise the kids to be selfish cunts like him, it's not their fault.

8 years ago | Likes 18 Dislikes 1

"Blame her father and her mother, that Veruca will reside with the rubbish and the other wasteful things she's tossed aside."-OompaLoompas

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

2% of the population petitions him an unfit human being. We take his kids away and he wouldn't blink.

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

All the money in the world won't matter if he pisses off the wrong people. Insane people aren't beyond killing, not that I'd ever endorse it

8 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

I would not be surprised if someone unstable whose only source of social contact is gaming for example, goes after him because they have (1)

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

trouble getting online, or frankly can't afford it.

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

He is. Unfortunately.

8 years ago | Likes 71 Dislikes 2

I feel like his legacy will be akin to Benedict Arnold or John Wilkes Booth. Is there enough money to ever erase that?

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Would he care if he's dead?

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Depends, is it at least $50K for each year of life he's going to be alive, which is enough money to live in relative comfort, albeit at-

8 years ago | Likes 12 Dislikes 1

an average standard of living at best?

8 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 1

You'd have to give me two islands for me to historically ruin my family and it's name for God knows how long.

8 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 1

maybe we get a bright ending to it all.. a new holiday maybe.. "The day we fed all the politicians to the wood chippers" there will be cake.

8 years ago | Likes 18 Dislikes 0

...and you're now on a list

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

We don't wanna go old school and have guillotines like the french?

8 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

They also liked cake

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

They had to like cake, they didn’t have enough bread

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

So... uh.... I have a wood chipper.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Anything for a new cake day!

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Perfect, we need wood chippers, lawn shears, and utility pumps. that way we can shred fake news, cut through red tape, and drain the swamp!

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

SEIZE THE MEANS OF PRODUCTION

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

When was the last time someone actually had a negative consequence from being a corporate stooge and selling out the public?

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"Pharma Bro" who was arrested for defrauding investors. Most hated person for being loud and making life saving drugs expensive.

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Footnote. Said drugs were previously being sold at an affordable price.

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Nixon?

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Americans have a short memory and a big "us vs them" mentality. It's why a literal pedophile has a chance at being a senator right now.

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There is no proof but people saying things. Mob justice is one of the worst things.

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 3

also, I just looked up more about it, and he didn't date anyone below the age of 16 which was the age of consent in Alabama at the time...

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

And the one that said she was 14?

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I believe she said they didn't start dating until 16, but I don't know. He isn't in my state, so I haven't done full research

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Was that ever fully proven? Or is it still at the accusations stage?

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Proving the point above episode 342.

8 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 1

I mean how do you fully prove that? There's not video, but a retired cop came out and said he was told to keep Moore away from the malls.

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Guess what? If you cant prove it, then you cant argue its true.

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There's also a number of different women, none of whom knew each other, all telling eerily similar stories.

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"They won't throttle!" "They've done if before and are doing it right now." "...Throttling isn't a big deal!"

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Their service plan options are literally examples of throttling that can be done via software

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Not that I support the repeal or ISP’s, but from my limited knowledge on the subject, all of the ISP’s are currently still regulated by(1/?)

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(2/?) the 2015 rulings which outright ban all forms of blocking, throttling, or data discrimination and requires the FCC to investigate

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

(3/?) on a case-by-case review if any discrepancies are detected by customers or the public. Of course, this will all be thrown in the

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

(4/4) bin If Pai and the current anti-net neutrality movement get their way.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Oops I forgot the point: since there are no actual investigations being held, I don’t think any companies are blocking or throttling

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

This is sadly very true. Here's a good quick history of just a few examples: https://www.freepress.net/blog/2017/04/25/net-neutrality-violat

8 years ago | Likes 17 Dislikes 0

Think you ran out of characters on that link, OP

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Stupid limits, but its the one thats posted right in this thread. My b.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Your link leads to a broken page

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Pai is lying through his giant fucking teeth, and it's infuriating because I feel like nothing I do is going to matter.

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Sure, it's highly immoral for ISP's to lie, but is it necessarily illegal? If it's not illegal, I could see them heavily using that.

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Could be considered false advertising. They do it all the time if you call to subscribe to Comcast. "Oh yeah, you'll get 50MB/s for $30/mo."

8 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

Its not 50 MegaBytes. Its 50 MegaBits. That small difference nobody notices is what makes people think they get more data.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

then they sign you up for a 5Mb/s for $30/mo. package.

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

They always promise "Up to XMB/s" never the actual number.

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

In print, yeah, it's "Up to XMb/s", but if you call them they give you a specific number and no "fine print" like "XMb/s max".

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Dealing with AT&T, Verizon/Frontier and TimeWarner/Spectrum I have never once had them give me any verbal guarantee other than "up to".

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