Mar 12, 2021 12:24 PM
chaosinrush
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Mannus
His eyes look so dead in the left pic.
inthrees
That’s good stuff, Steve-O.
Fiss
AWW YIS GETTIN DAT DANK GREEN
AngryGraphicDesigner
Don’t criminal drugs, treat the way trauma causing the addiction
MinosEngele
That's called reposting
pjm82
Steve-o and Joey Diaz help my recovery a lot. They helped me realize I didn't have to be ashamed. As long as I genuinely and honestly took 1
Responsibility for my actions and tried to make amends I could laugh about it too. I could use humor to heal and move on. Love those dudes
phonoodle415
Are those a bunch of whip it things that are empty?
IWantToHugEveryCat
therealfetusfajitas
The carrot cigarette is my fav.
madmattz
I'm so glad we didn't lose steveo to his addiction. What an inspiration
RickiestRickC137
Steveo is a goddamn American treasure.
pleaseacknowledgethecat
His teeth look new
strongbadia7
because they are.
YourIceCreamMan
Never liked SteveO on Jackass but my hat's off to him for staying clean
suicidebyporn
Why he looks younger on 2021 photo???
sillymapper
Drugs are a hell of a drug.
0soGrande
Also, rich don't crack.
HPDARKMAN
One of the best things I ever heard about his recover was from knoxville saying hey took to sobriety as hardcore as he did addiction
CasaDeMaize
His hot sauce is fukin tasty, highly recommend it to anyone that likes a kick
Lamech777
Esp in the eyeball!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=heCqC40yYsg
ihavesomuchdawwtogive
I'll have to try it. I just tried Gringo Banditos, Dexter Holland's sauce. The spicy yellow is terrific.
Putting that on my list. Always up for me hot sauces.
Aurumai
What's going on in the first picture?
jmonster2020
He looks loads better, good for him
Toomuchsheep
And his skin looks so good!
Antineutrino11
PCP saved his life
Irisuniverse
Sober and vegan!
delly
And his teeth do look remarkably good too
TheFireFerret
Thats cause a good chunk of them have been replaced with fakes lol
DryHuskOfAMan
And re-replaced another three times or so
knowmynameyoudonot9000
Should be 2020 vs 2021.
ispentwaytoolongthinkingaboutthis
What are the blue things on the left?
photobomber
Nitrous Oxide containers
Wow. He must have a fast car using all those. Cool.
justyourfriendlyneighborhoodimgurian
I have seen a couple of his YouTube vids, and some are pretty damn awesome. I can't find it, but there is one where he rescues a dog.
Alecchi
His dog is with him in most videos
Superchief86
Here we go. What a fucking legend. https://youtu.be/xobfudVkc-4
iamlegendinjapan
There's a documentary online it's about an hour long of stevo's whip It abuse and his recovery it is really good
Iamyouinanotherlife
As a naive white boy, wtf are those blue things?
delcy
whippets, aka, little tubes of laughing gas. supposed to be used for whipped cream dispensers
twisster76
Naive white boy here too... I think they're whippits https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whipped-cream_charger
Whippits
markmcn87
Whippets, as everyone else has said, but fun fact: he said on Joe Rogans show that he used to do boxes of those cartridges a day
disneyone
Some people waste their lives growing at the right age, avoiding everything dangerous and stupid...
This man just did everything he wanted, he had fun and became fomous thanks to his wrong behavior.
And NOW he chose to grow up... you know, I think he spent his life better than me.
Rangerbobby
Cornbread and iced tea took the place of pills and 90 proof
HaveGinWillBabble
Those are nitrous.
zeromehsgiven
For reference: https://youtu.be/Ct8V4nF9oOI
Anduie
Those are whippits.
brianthefly
Will you stop talking to me in that 8-bit voice... Oh my god they ARE whippits!
ByThePowerOfSCIENCE
Whippits good! du-du-dududun
Unfortunately, it is too late to whip it, whip it good. Im terribly sorry for the inconvenience.
SimplyWalkedIntoMordorAndBroughtPizza
i always wonder how he survived all that crap he went trough, but good to see that he was able to get a grip on his life
oddyberry
Sheer fuckin luck in many cases i think! Things could habe killed him, but he was lucky!
LarvaLamp
Youth and painkillers.
Grimdude
And money
Canofminus
Years ago, Johnny Knoxville has stated that his body can’t do anymore Jack Ass stunts.
no surprise, they did a lot of taxing shit
And we only saw the stuff that made the cut.
kingaaronalmighty
As someone in recovery this is such an inspiration. If steveo can do it I can. Thank you and good luck brother ♡
LooseyGooseyBrett
Veggies = fit and Meth=fit?
Stay strong
SerialChickenLover
The secret is a back tattoo of your own face
Agudolorgie
And then we have Bam..
MrCheezypoofs
And Steve O got kicked in the balls the whole time too.
BenderRodriguz1010
Like the WHOLE time lol
ordomalleus61337
Of course you can my dude. We'll be here should you falter.
Zadpole
What one man has done, another man can do.
TheMuteDoge
That explains what happened with my wife...
Damn
ProLicks
I love the *sentiment*, but the ethos of "If Steve-O can do it, I can, too" will lead you into some very questionable territory...
Totsmacgee
Like putting hot sauce in your butt?
Or your eyeball?
Fired into the air in a full porta potty?
iwasmclovin
Snorting a line of wasabi?
Have you ever heard of “Dharma Punks” by Noah Levine?
Intrspace
What are those blue things? Little gas canisters? What for?
floydpinkerton10
.
Whippets. Laughing gas
orbitn
Nitrous Oxide, whipped cream gas - also good for whipping your brains, dentists, hosptials & ambulances sometimes use it for anxiolysis.
MyMudIsName
My lips turned blue while I held a bop-it balloon one night, I was on some other pretty heavy stuff at the time, though.
While on it, you gain a 100% accurate and true understanding of the nature of the universe. But you forget it 10 seconds later. Then you
Ampel
Had them occasionally in my late teens with friends and no one else ever got this moment of understanding, I thought I was the only one!
get a new one. Wash, rinse, repeat. Also, it makes car engine go vroom vroom really fast.
He was addicted to whippets, demise and rise his documentary is on youtube. He barely breathed air at that point. It was mostly laughing gas
parkerh17
Idk how someone gets addicted to whippits. Me and some buddies used to do them in college. They last like 30-45 sec each and after like 1/
20 of them you get a headache and don't want to do more. Plus as far as I know there is no physical dependency. Maybe I'm wrong? 2/2
You could be right it's not easy, he has pictures of piles and piles of them, you can't see his floor. He also did cocaine and stuff
Yeah I have a feeling the other stuff was messing him up more than the whippits. Unless he was inhaling them without taking in any oxygen
PicassoCT
Don't want to annoy, but are those teeth shooped?
StarryPlough
He's a rich american, so they are fake.
yourcreepyunclefriendly
He’s replaced his teeth like 4 times, he is the reason I floss every day
NATA5
I mean I’m sure at least one of those times is from knocking them out by acting like a jackass.
YourMomsNewBoyfriend
No they look perfect cause they are fake. Drugs are a hell of a drug
Dude had terrible teeth for forever, drugs def didn't help though
YouWereSupposedToBeBulletPoints
They're just veneers. :/ Most veneers look super fake even in person. Basically think of them as toupees for your teeth
doover
Over lightened in photoshop but not fake
They’re not fake[d in photoshop].
They are. Floss, folks! https://youtu.be/FY6KvRmlp14
MantisTobagganMD
Well...no, they are nearly all fake. He's had several sets of veneers and crowns
Jeebus ppl. Not fake(d) in photoshop. Like the person asked. Stop and look both ways for context clues, kids.
Chill, my guy.
Its a contextspiracy! They are all in on it! Meta-stasis!
uncomfortablysticky
This is why we need to support the rehabilitation of addicts. John Frusciante is another example
houmrhoumr9000
Loving that new dnb album of his
CrypticalEnvelopement
Robert Downey Jr
TheAxeNinja
Was gonna say that one too
Richter12x2
Oh, since it was SteveO I thought he was just trying to see how many blue lightbulbs he could eat.
Chainhealer
John Frusciante was pretty far from okay. I'm so glad he pulled through.
Kronzor
It’s harder with artist though. Because we usually want the art the create when they’re on the junk. So it’s a conflict for both parties.
MoreCatnipPleaseSir
Me and the hubs just opened our first sober living house in honor of my best friend.
imafarmer
I'm the husband!!
perfecteye18
Give us a name!
My best friend's name was Katie. The sober living house is named Katie's House. We have one rn, bt plan to open 2 more when wecan afford it.
Thats great to hear i love it. Im not really involved but volunteered with a buddy who made it out, at the house that saved him. <3
That makes my heart happy. I truly hope we can make a difference. Also glad you still have ya bud. What I'd give. More so what wouldn't I gv
YeGods
I did not know his story was public enough to be top comment in a thread like this. How did you even know about it?
Soberyn
There's all sorts of stuff on YouTube. And the other band members talk about it in books and interviews etc. Amazing he didn't die.
Lol i thought you were talking about the comedian
GetlnLoserWereGonnaOffendEveryone
God bless Frusciante
ElPerroDeLosCinco
How could he bless himself?
BADASSartoo
Wha-wha mustache and stratocaster
konelhft
You seem to have mistaken Lemmy for Frusciante
ASongOfPissAndFarts
I mean having money helps too
CommodoreStab
To a point. If you're on the street, odds are you're screwed. But you can't fix the problem just by throwing money at it.
I don't think its about "throwing" money, it is about having sufficient money to actually receive the help that is needed.
CanICallYouDaddy
Yup. It doesn’t have to be that way either. But certain working class voters are convinced that their money would be used to help others.
TheLastOfTheGood
Better to keep them from becoming addicts. Like we'd want to prevent fires...not keep the fires from spreading.
polijutre
We need both, just like we need to prevent fires and we need to put out the ones that are already burning.
Marty40k
Exactly, there are going to be hundreds of body bags and ruined lives for every Steve-O. Not everyone gets to recover.
ruferto
focus on mental health
I came here to say this. To deal with addiction proactively we've got to get help for mentally ill. So many people self medicate bc they/
Don't know how to get themselves the help they need or can't afford it.
HoochIsCrazzy
True, bit we still want to have firefighters
Yeah thays great dude but we need to help those that get addicted too
Why?
The fuck do you mean why? Because a person should not be judged entirely by their biggest mistake. Its also the mark of civilisation.
Addicts are not automatically bad people
IwentLookingForWhatTheBiggestIdiotHasToSayAndHereYouAre
I mean, yeah, best case scenario is that addiction is eliminated. However, drugs have existed almost as long as ?? have. Addiction is a>
>systemic problem that is unlikely in the extreme to go away. And at the moment the wildfires have already spread, and are continuing to>
>grow by further stigmatizing addiction, rather than offering treatment. "prevention" -at least, the current method of it, not only doesn't>
>work, but is actively making it worse. The priority right now HAS to be stemming the tide, stopping the bleeding. Once we're stabilized>
Strangedays2024
Addiction is incredibly hard to predict with any certainty. Most people can try almost any drug with minimal long term risk. For those of1/2
Us who happen to have the switch tripped, it can happen with minimal exposure. Not to say that long-term use won't trigger the same 2/3
Outcome. A major improvement would be shifting addiction farther into a medical condition rather then a social/moral issue.3/3
Or seeing as how you have the data on addiction maybe don't risk experimenting?
OverMyDadBody
We need both. It's not like one is more important.
bochikiniki
Definitely.... Same thing with all disease management
Prevention is most definitely more important though.
3crowsBeast
Prevention always pays higher dividends. You want a 1:1 return on your money or a 1:10?
Yes.
thesauceisboss
v as someone who struggled with addiction I agree completely. Prevention and recovery could both improve 1/
By helping to combat stigmas. It makes it easier to educate and treat if use and abuse are not hidden and treatment is welcomed not scorned.
KansasComrade
But then you don’t let the fires rage uncontrolled if they do happen to start via intent or accident.
sometimes you gotta let it rage controlled tho
Yep. Sometimes substance abuse is all that keeps people from killing themselves. If you just carelessly take the substance away and think >
"everything's OK now", you might get an unpleasant call.
No. You put it out. You don't try to control it while talking about the fire's childhood.
Pandameter
...so is your "put it out" shooting them? Because examining how past trauma affects current behaviour IS "putting out the fire", so to speak
Sure after they serve (or during) their time examin all you want.
No shit. How much research have you done into effective drug treatment?
The most effective is not to take it
Mannus
His eyes look so dead in the left pic.
inthrees
That’s good stuff, Steve-O.
Fiss
AWW YIS GETTIN DAT DANK GREEN
AngryGraphicDesigner
Don’t criminal drugs, treat the way trauma causing the addiction
MinosEngele
That's called reposting
pjm82
Steve-o and Joey Diaz help my recovery a lot. They helped me realize I didn't have to be ashamed. As long as I genuinely and honestly took 1
pjm82
Responsibility for my actions and tried to make amends I could laugh about it too. I could use humor to heal and move on. Love those dudes
phonoodle415
Are those a bunch of whip it things that are empty?
IWantToHugEveryCat
therealfetusfajitas
The carrot cigarette is my fav.
madmattz
I'm so glad we didn't lose steveo to his addiction. What an inspiration
RickiestRickC137
Steveo is a goddamn American treasure.
pleaseacknowledgethecat
His teeth look new
strongbadia7
because they are.
YourIceCreamMan
Never liked SteveO on Jackass but my hat's off to him for staying clean
suicidebyporn
Why he looks younger on 2021 photo???
sillymapper
Drugs are a hell of a drug.
0soGrande
Also, rich don't crack.
HPDARKMAN
One of the best things I ever heard about his recover was from knoxville saying hey took to sobriety as hardcore as he did addiction
CasaDeMaize
His hot sauce is fukin tasty, highly recommend it to anyone that likes a kick
Lamech777
Esp in the eyeball!
Lamech777
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=heCqC40yYsg
ihavesomuchdawwtogive
I'll have to try it. I just tried Gringo Banditos, Dexter Holland's sauce. The spicy yellow is terrific.
CasaDeMaize
Putting that on my list. Always up for me hot sauces.
Aurumai
What's going on in the first picture?
jmonster2020
He looks loads better, good for him
Toomuchsheep
And his skin looks so good!
Antineutrino11
PCP saved his life
Irisuniverse
Sober and vegan!
delly
And his teeth do look remarkably good too
TheFireFerret
Thats cause a good chunk of them have been replaced with fakes lol
DryHuskOfAMan
And re-replaced another three times or so
knowmynameyoudonot9000
Should be 2020 vs 2021.
ispentwaytoolongthinkingaboutthis
What are the blue things on the left?
photobomber
Nitrous Oxide containers
ispentwaytoolongthinkingaboutthis
Wow. He must have a fast car using all those. Cool.
justyourfriendlyneighborhoodimgurian
I have seen a couple of his YouTube vids, and some are pretty damn awesome. I can't find it, but there is one where he rescues a dog.
Alecchi
His dog is with him in most videos
Superchief86
Here we go. What a fucking legend. https://youtu.be/xobfudVkc-4
iamlegendinjapan
There's a documentary online it's about an hour long of stevo's whip It abuse and his recovery it is really good
Iamyouinanotherlife
As a naive white boy, wtf are those blue things?
delcy
whippets, aka, little tubes of laughing gas. supposed to be used for whipped cream dispensers
twisster76
Naive white boy here too... I think they're whippits https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whipped-cream_charger
strongbadia7
Whippits
markmcn87
Whippets, as everyone else has said, but fun fact: he said on Joe Rogans show that he used to do boxes of those cartridges a day
disneyone
Some people waste their lives growing at the right age, avoiding everything dangerous and stupid...
disneyone
This man just did everything he wanted, he had fun and became fomous thanks to his wrong behavior.
disneyone
And NOW he chose to grow up... you know, I think he spent his life better than me.
Rangerbobby
Cornbread and iced tea took the place of pills and 90 proof
HaveGinWillBabble
Those are nitrous.
zeromehsgiven
For reference: https://youtu.be/Ct8V4nF9oOI
Anduie
Those are whippits.
zeromehsgiven
For reference: https://youtu.be/Ct8V4nF9oOI
brianthefly
Will you stop talking to me in that 8-bit voice... Oh my god they ARE whippits!
ByThePowerOfSCIENCE
Whippits good! du-du-dududun
brianthefly
Unfortunately, it is too late to whip it, whip it good. Im terribly sorry for the inconvenience.
SimplyWalkedIntoMordorAndBroughtPizza
i always wonder how he survived all that crap he went trough, but good to see that he was able to get a grip on his life
oddyberry
Sheer fuckin luck in many cases i think! Things could habe killed him, but he was lucky!
LarvaLamp
Youth and painkillers.
Grimdude
And money
Canofminus
Years ago, Johnny Knoxville has stated that his body can’t do anymore Jack Ass stunts.
SimplyWalkedIntoMordorAndBroughtPizza
no surprise, they did a lot of taxing shit
Canofminus
And we only saw the stuff that made the cut.
kingaaronalmighty
As someone in recovery this is such an inspiration. If steveo can do it I can. Thank you and good luck brother ♡
LooseyGooseyBrett
Veggies = fit and Meth=fit?
chaosinrush
Stay strong
SerialChickenLover
The secret is a back tattoo of your own face
Agudolorgie
And then we have Bam..
MrCheezypoofs
And Steve O got kicked in the balls the whole time too.
BenderRodriguz1010
Like the WHOLE time lol
ordomalleus61337
Of course you can my dude. We'll be here should you falter.
Zadpole
What one man has done, another man can do.
TheMuteDoge
That explains what happened with my wife...
Zadpole
Damn
ProLicks
I love the *sentiment*, but the ethos of "If Steve-O can do it, I can, too" will lead you into some very questionable territory...
Totsmacgee
Like putting hot sauce in your butt?
oddyberry
Or your eyeball?
BenderRodriguz1010
Fired into the air in a full porta potty?
iwasmclovin
Snorting a line of wasabi?
pleaseacknowledgethecat
Have you ever heard of “Dharma Punks” by Noah Levine?
Intrspace
What are those blue things? Little gas canisters? What for?
floydpinkerton10
.
chaosinrush
Whippets. Laughing gas
orbitn
Nitrous Oxide, whipped cream gas - also good for whipping your brains, dentists, hosptials & ambulances sometimes use it for anxiolysis.
MyMudIsName
My lips turned blue while I held a bop-it balloon one night, I was on some other pretty heavy stuff at the time, though.
orbitn
While on it, you gain a 100% accurate and true understanding of the nature of the universe. But you forget it 10 seconds later. Then you
Ampel
Had them occasionally in my late teens with friends and no one else ever got this moment of understanding, I thought I was the only one!
orbitn
get a new one. Wash, rinse, repeat. Also, it makes car engine go vroom vroom really fast.
Alecchi
He was addicted to whippets, demise and rise his documentary is on youtube. He barely breathed air at that point. It was mostly laughing gas
parkerh17
Idk how someone gets addicted to whippits. Me and some buddies used to do them in college. They last like 30-45 sec each and after like 1/
parkerh17
20 of them you get a headache and don't want to do more. Plus as far as I know there is no physical dependency. Maybe I'm wrong? 2/2
Alecchi
You could be right it's not easy, he has pictures of piles and piles of them, you can't see his floor. He also did cocaine and stuff
parkerh17
Yeah I have a feeling the other stuff was messing him up more than the whippits. Unless he was inhaling them without taking in any oxygen
PicassoCT
Don't want to annoy, but are those teeth shooped?
StarryPlough
He's a rich american, so they are fake.
yourcreepyunclefriendly
He’s replaced his teeth like 4 times, he is the reason I floss every day
NATA5
I mean I’m sure at least one of those times is from knocking them out by acting like a jackass.
YourMomsNewBoyfriend
No they look perfect cause they are fake. Drugs are a hell of a drug
DryHuskOfAMan
Dude had terrible teeth for forever, drugs def didn't help though
YouWereSupposedToBeBulletPoints
They're just veneers. :/ Most veneers look super fake even in person. Basically think of them as toupees for your teeth
doover
Over lightened in photoshop but not fake
doover
They’re not fake[d in photoshop].
Superchief86
They are. Floss, folks! https://youtu.be/FY6KvRmlp14
MantisTobagganMD
Well...no, they are nearly all fake. He's had several sets of veneers and crowns
doover
Jeebus ppl. Not fake(d) in photoshop. Like the person asked. Stop and look both ways for context clues, kids.
MantisTobagganMD
Chill, my guy.
PicassoCT
Its a contextspiracy! They are all in on it! Meta-stasis!
uncomfortablysticky
This is why we need to support the rehabilitation of addicts. John Frusciante is another example
houmrhoumr9000
Loving that new dnb album of his
CrypticalEnvelopement
Robert Downey Jr
TheAxeNinja
Was gonna say that one too
Richter12x2
Oh, since it was SteveO I thought he was just trying to see how many blue lightbulbs he could eat.
Chainhealer
John Frusciante was pretty far from okay. I'm so glad he pulled through.
Kronzor
It’s harder with artist though. Because we usually want the art the create when they’re on the junk. So it’s a conflict for both parties.
MoreCatnipPleaseSir
Me and the hubs just opened our first sober living house in honor of my best friend.
imafarmer
I'm the husband!!
perfecteye18
Give us a name!
MoreCatnipPleaseSir
My best friend's name was Katie. The sober living house is named Katie's House. We have one rn, bt plan to open 2 more when wecan afford it.
perfecteye18
Thats great to hear i love it. Im not really involved but volunteered with a buddy who made it out, at the house that saved him. <3
MoreCatnipPleaseSir
That makes my heart happy. I truly hope we can make a difference. Also glad you still have ya bud. What I'd give. More so what wouldn't I gv
YeGods
I did not know his story was public enough to be top comment in a thread like this. How did you even know about it?
Soberyn
There's all sorts of stuff on YouTube. And the other band members talk about it in books and interviews etc. Amazing he didn't die.
YeGods
Lol i thought you were talking about the comedian
GetlnLoserWereGonnaOffendEveryone
God bless Frusciante
ElPerroDeLosCinco
How could he bless himself?
BADASSartoo
Wha-wha mustache and stratocaster
konelhft
You seem to have mistaken Lemmy for Frusciante
ASongOfPissAndFarts
I mean having money helps too
CommodoreStab
To a point. If you're on the street, odds are you're screwed. But you can't fix the problem just by throwing money at it.
ASongOfPissAndFarts
I don't think its about "throwing" money, it is about having sufficient money to actually receive the help that is needed.
CanICallYouDaddy
Yup. It doesn’t have to be that way either. But certain working class voters are convinced that their money would be used to help others.
TheLastOfTheGood
Better to keep them from becoming addicts. Like we'd want to prevent fires...not keep the fires from spreading.
polijutre
We need both, just like we need to prevent fires and we need to put out the ones that are already burning.
Marty40k
Exactly, there are going to be hundreds of body bags and ruined lives for every Steve-O. Not everyone gets to recover.
ruferto
focus on mental health
MoreCatnipPleaseSir
I came here to say this. To deal with addiction proactively we've got to get help for mentally ill. So many people self medicate bc they/
MoreCatnipPleaseSir
Don't know how to get themselves the help they need or can't afford it.
HoochIsCrazzy
True, bit we still want to have firefighters
ordomalleus61337
Yeah thays great dude but we need to help those that get addicted too
TheLastOfTheGood
Why?
ordomalleus61337
The fuck do you mean why? Because a person should not be judged entirely by their biggest mistake. Its also the mark of civilisation.
ordomalleus61337
Addicts are not automatically bad people
IwentLookingForWhatTheBiggestIdiotHasToSayAndHereYouAre
I mean, yeah, best case scenario is that addiction is eliminated. However, drugs have existed almost as long as ?? have. Addiction is a>
IwentLookingForWhatTheBiggestIdiotHasToSayAndHereYouAre
>systemic problem that is unlikely in the extreme to go away. And at the moment the wildfires have already spread, and are continuing to>
IwentLookingForWhatTheBiggestIdiotHasToSayAndHereYouAre
>grow by further stigmatizing addiction, rather than offering treatment. "prevention" -at least, the current method of it, not only doesn't>
IwentLookingForWhatTheBiggestIdiotHasToSayAndHereYouAre
>work, but is actively making it worse. The priority right now HAS to be stemming the tide, stopping the bleeding. Once we're stabilized>
Strangedays2024
Addiction is incredibly hard to predict with any certainty. Most people can try almost any drug with minimal long term risk. For those of1/2
Strangedays2024
Us who happen to have the switch tripped, it can happen with minimal exposure. Not to say that long-term use won't trigger the same 2/3
Strangedays2024
Outcome. A major improvement would be shifting addiction farther into a medical condition rather then a social/moral issue.3/3
TheLastOfTheGood
Or seeing as how you have the data on addiction maybe don't risk experimenting?
OverMyDadBody
We need both. It's not like one is more important.
bochikiniki
Definitely.... Same thing with all disease management
Chainhealer
Prevention is most definitely more important though.
3crowsBeast
Prevention always pays higher dividends. You want a 1:1 return on your money or a 1:10?
Chainhealer
Yes.
thesauceisboss
thesauceisboss
By helping to combat stigmas. It makes it easier to educate and treat if use and abuse are not hidden and treatment is welcomed not scorned.
KansasComrade
But then you don’t let the fires rage uncontrolled if they do happen to start via intent or accident.
ruferto
sometimes you gotta let it rage controlled tho
orbitn
Yep. Sometimes substance abuse is all that keeps people from killing themselves. If you just carelessly take the substance away and think >
orbitn
"everything's OK now", you might get an unpleasant call.
TheLastOfTheGood
No. You put it out. You don't try to control it while talking about the fire's childhood.
Pandameter
...so is your "put it out" shooting them? Because examining how past trauma affects current behaviour IS "putting out the fire", so to speak
TheLastOfTheGood
Sure after they serve (or during) their time examin all you want.
KansasComrade
No shit. How much research have you done into effective drug treatment?
TheLastOfTheGood
The most effective is not to take it