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Nov 19, 2022 11:06 AM
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iLikeRainyDays
Maybe Russia won't exist soon. Its world war 3 already but noone will admit it as its currently just equipment. That's what win wars.
witalaska4
Fuck Putin. LONG LIVE UKRAINE ??❤️??
msd3k
If Russia keeps fighting, there will be no Russians.
goforthandconquer
russians are clearly ok with that.
dragonsdemesne
I've seen the same quote with Israel and Palestine in place of Ukraine and Russia, and both are true.
FreePalestineAndTheWorldFromIsrael
Except Israel are the oppressors
Aeden
Lol.
Scottishtiger101
SLAVA UKRAINE ??
craque
HEROYAM SLAVA ??
iLikeRainyDays
The war is affecting every economy, everyone is invested in Russias downfall
johndizx24
Slava Ukraine ??
gregghubbard
That slogan was stolen from Secretary of State Anthony Blinken in a 60 minutes interview.
DMA1982
I don't claim property of the slogan in any way. I just happen to like it very much.
Fritzy19
secularink
<3
iamgurd
Love it. But why do they look like they're doing it under duress ?
FreePalestineAndTheWorldFromIsrael
They're owned by Disney now, remember
zienta8142
????❤️
MrPoopyPantz
billcosbybangedurmum
glory to the heroes ??
Neyasnost
ZOV
V0rch4
pootin still has money for bots
Neyasnost
wish the fucker would pay me
SleepinessOfTheBanana
And hence, if both of the stop, there will be no war and no Ukraine.
Hammerwell
There are constraints I hope, who are left out for simplicity.
PicassoCT
Its also not something they ever stopped. The decorations change, but the war of russia against the world is eternal.
Margrave9000
It can only end with the unconditional capitulation of Russia - followed by the total reeducation of its people and redrawing of borders.
AgnosticPaladin
Yeah. Russia needs to go through a soul searching period like the one Germany went through after WW2.
Margrave9000
Yes. They must completely reinvent Russian identity under international scrutiny - or else. And they too will have to accept our troops.
pandemicmodedad
But why? Why do they need to be against everyone else?
AgnosticPaladin
That's their "Nation/Empire" myth. Pushed hard by Putin, but was there for hundreds of years, and enthusiastically accepted by a lot of them
Margrave9000
Because they are inherently and completely evil. That's why we must defeat them at any cost.
Yoghurtsson
As a peaceful Russian science guy, that works towards peoples safety on a daily basis, reading comments like this comfort me. ty
Margrave9000
Stop being Russian if you want to be seen as peaceful.
Yoghurtsson
Like those oligarchs that deleted their passports and suddenly became righteous holy people? Yeah thanks for advice
pocketcthulhu
"But Putin said their are Nazis in the Ukraine"
londonosierra2000
If there's no Putin, everyone is happy! Time for Putin to join a mental asylum.
AgnosticPaladin
The "Nation/Empire" myth was pushed hard by Putin, but was there for hundreds of years, and enthusiastically accepted by a lot of Russians.
cabalin
The war would continue without Putin. Russians are pigs
TalkingSnake
Ryebread91
Getting strong Vigo vibes, we sure they're not related and she should be feared?
Gvilain
She isn't, but she should be feared. Idk why she was canonized, cause she was very strong ruler, including doing some stuff
TheHappyFrenchCanadian
Like a lot of brutal revenge murder, good material for a Saint, don't you think?
suiseiseki
Sainthood was always a political tool and frequently idolizes murderers and luncatics. But what else can we expect from the Catholic church?
TheHappyFrenchCanadian
As proven by history, not much more sadly
Gvilain
It was not even Catholic, Orthodox in that case ^^ but it's same stuff
torp
Can you make a version in Russian ?
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torp
Sure yeah !
Neyasnost
sure for money
svon1
ya know as a former KGB Agent of the Soviet Union,,, Putin's turning Russia into an Oligarchy ....is basically treason to the Soviet people
ChosenChaos
You say that as though the USSR wasn't an oligarcy with the CPSU apparatchiks as the oligarchs
svon1
its more like ....with extra steps https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZqxTqysnp2c
jursamaj
The only 'people' Putin cares about is himself.
svon1
mmmhnnn......now where did i hear that before? ,,,,,, ......
Myowngrampa
All dictatorships?...
NimrodDurst13
Unfortunately they're fine with it. As an American I know what being fine with a faux democratic cleptocracy is like. Time to let it burn.
msd3k
But it's pretty much in keeping with the last couple hundred years of Russian leadership.
SaymynamePoopybuthole
This
jakkejakke22
There is no soviet people. Russians occupied their neighbors. Soviet union was a russian lie.
svon1
that is very black and white view, also known as wrong... in reality its a way more complicated ,,,,,reality is ALWAYS complicated
pandemicmodedad
Care to explain then? Or link something to prove what you said? Ukraine has known only violence from soviets.
svon1
does this include the Ukrainians who straight up joined the UkrainianS.S.R.? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vp3sXDQanKk or the Russians1/2
svon1
2/2 or what about the Russians who fought with Ukraine against the commies ? as the white army https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=da3Mth6bvzQ
AgnosticPaladin
1. There is no "soviet people", never was. 2. Russia was always an oligarchy, with cosmetic changes from the Tsars to present.
svon1
nah there was a period in between soviet oligarchy &Tsarists oligarchy were they tried, didnt last though, kinda like the french revolution
AgnosticPaladin
Yeah. It lasted, what, 2 years?
svon1
more like 20 ...but thats like 5 turns in politician years ,,,,so majority still pretty shit,,,,not as horrendous as the Tsar regime though
AgnosticPaladin
In 1930 Russia/Soviet Union was in full Empire/Gulag mode, started before that. So definitely no more than 10 years, certainly not 20.
TheWombatStrikesAgain
Soviet ideals were betrayed pretty much from day one.
SaymynamePoopybuthole
Marx was an in depth view. My god des capital is boring asf. Can’t fault the logic though
Thekindofkindlyman
I was about to say Stalin wasn’t exactly known for his benevolence either
svon1
nah ,,,Lenin tried ,,,,he tried,,,, he failed miserably,,,, but he didnt betray it,,,, even stalin tried a little ,,even if much much less
Myowngrampa
So many commas
AgerciAsimov
Unpopular opinion among you guys, but it's Zelenky who keeps refusing to negotiate.
AgerciAsimov
So far, I have seen none of you refute on how Zelensky refused to negotiate. So why even bother? I didn't even say he was the bad guy here.
AreYouABadPerson
No one's going to waste the time on debating something you clearly said in bad faith, loser.
V0rch4
You can't even spell his last name right. Also he is voicing the thoughts of Ukrainians, try googling some recent polls
AgerciAsimov
Yeah, sorry about the last name. My "s" key doesn't work right. Let me fix it: Elensky. For he doesn't like the "Z" that much.
elucca
If Russia was willing to withdraw forces from Ukrainian territory I'm sure he would negotiate. Otherwise they gotta make them do that first.
AgerciAsimov
Russia was willing to settle things for more than 8 years with 2 established treaties. And where are we right now?
AreYouABadPerson
Fuck off. Russia has proven untrustworthy in negotiations and why the FUCK should they negotiate to give up part of their country?
AgerciAsimov
And now that they are not desired anymore, they lost the lands because the people wanted it to happen.
AgerciAsimov
And unless you can show evidence that it was a fraud where UN observers couldn't see, throw it up to the UN. They would love to see it too.
AgerciAsimov
Saying they have to give up their own land is stupid, sure. But they didn't have to use violence to resolve thingss.
AgerciAsimov
They didn't have to. Even Russia has autonomous republics inside them. Chechnya is one example. Why can't Ukraine do the same?
AreYouABadPerson
Why the ever loving FUCK should Ukraine give up its sovereignty? Why would they WANT to be part of Russia again? Do you even know WHAT the
AgerciAsimov
No, having autonomous republics does not mean the lands would be with Russia. How did you get to that conclusion?
AreYouABadPerson
Because the "autonomous republics" were blatantly Russia annexing territory with the most flimsy bullshit excuse ever?
AreYouABadPerson
FUCK Russia has done in Chechnya? Aare you just stupid? Is this a bit?
AgerciAsimov
Well, 2 wars. With the later one started because Chechnyans attacked a train station in Moscow. Now, Grozny is a place you go to to play.
Neyasnost
“If western ukrainian forces stopped shelling the donbas region, the war would stop”
Neyasnost
yo thanks for the trophy looool
OlofBorrbrottsson
Go assault Bakhmut, vatnik scum.
TheRealArclight
Neyasnost
lol you think that’s /s but it’s not
bleepbloop5
All the same love my Russians friends. Just stop killing people please
Neyasnost
только любовь
bleepbloop5
Thanks? Fellow human
Neyasnost
lol the downvotes are cus cyrillic hurts western eyes
newsguycraigevans
You really love playing the victim.
belongsinamuseum
At this point, I associate Cyrillic with a savage people, desperate for centuries to be allowed to come in from the cold.
bleepbloop5
I just know English but sounds like you made a good joke. As far as we’re concerned, Russia is commuting genocide so fuck you right?
bleepbloop5
Doesn’t sound true
Neyasnost
oh but your governments narrative is, right?
dalaiyoda
If you want to convince other people, you need to link to what convinced you.
Neyasnost
“This site is blocked in your country”
dalaiyoda
Is that all? So you can post the link, and I'll VPN until it works. Go ahead and paste whatever link you're talking about.
bleepbloop5
Is that saying Donbas belongs to Russia? Russia wants Ukraine so isn’t that a moot point really?
Neyasnost
it belongs to the ethnic russian population that inhabits that region
kvinnfolk
So you're OK with all the different ethnic groups in Russia getting full independence in their regions.
temporarilyhuman
As someone from a multicultural country, I can't imagine the chaos if every immigrant community expected independence. Russia is ... dumb.
Hammerwell
Nothing new though.
newsguycraigevans
Cool! So all the various ethnic groups in Russia are free to take their land and be independent! I am glad we could agree on this point.
bleepbloop5
You’re free to think that
DaShanghaiKid
Donbas is part of Ukraine, not Russia.
AgerciAsimov
All the more reasons to stop.
DaShanghaiKid
And let Russia take it?
AgerciAsimov
No. To let the citizens live. The Ukrainian official didn't have to go to war with Donbass 7 years ago, after Minsk 1 and 2.
Neyasnost
populated entirely by ethnic russians, they have even voted for this to happen
MyPetPenguinIsLicensedToKill
We saw how legitimate that vote was after the liberation of Kherson.
thesmelge
Yes, a perfectly fair vote with all the armed men and magically nearly everyone voting for russia. Totally fair and unbiased.
MapleSyrupMafia
Yeah... that's not the first time in human history where an ethnic group takes over a place and call it theirs... If we move into your>
MapleSyrupMafia
house and tell you to fuck off, you'll just leave and we get to keep the house free of charges?
BirdieBones
Ah, we should probably give texas back to mexico soon eh? The mexican population is getting pretty high
newsguycraigevans
We voted and we now own your house and a your stuff. We've been there for years and you treated us bad. Be out by Friday.
NoCountryForStraightMen
A vote by whom? Not the free people of that region. Overthrowing the government by force is not the way to handle things.
Neyasnost
Wait what? The US in fact overthrew the government in 2014, you realise that right?
NoCountryForStraightMen
Did the thought ever occur to you that maybe the PROPLE of ukr were fed up with that soviet scrap and wanted a change?
newsguycraigevans
Nope. Russia just didn't try hard enough in 2014. That's your fault.
SlarioJaeger
So basically if the entirety of turkey moved to germany and voted to make germany turkish, then it would be fair?
Neyasnost
You want russians gone out of the country but you’re not racist. I want muslims out of my country and i am?
belongsinamuseum
Yep
SlarioJaeger
If people move to a certain country, they are to integrate, not to overtake that country.
SlarioJaeger
The only russians that I want out of Ukraine is the army that started attacking Ukraine. Or do you just want to Ukraine to fully surrender?
temporarilyhuman
Ethic Russians who ......... moved to Ukraine. Everyone but Russia calls this immigration, not setting the conditions for annexation.
Neyasnost
Donbas was once part of Russia, it was gifted to ukraine
ElbowdeepinElmo
"Was" being paramount. They have as much claim to ukranian territory as they do to Alaska. It's no longer part of their country.
Eldis
Moscow was founded by Kiev in 1147. Technically Kiev is just another name for Ukraine, so by your logic Moscow belongs to Ukraine.
DaShanghaiKid
So you are saying it's part of Ukraine now, thanks for playing.
MapleSyrupMafia
So if it was gifted to Ukraine, it fucking belongs to Ukraine...