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Everyonesbrother
Booking something through a 3rd party is a bad idea.
Wibblersnatch
Are they mislead to believe that? Sounds like they need a different Church.
rightwing66
It could be they were giving money to a cause they believed in, one that would help those less fortunate...
Zootsoot
I hate hate HATE Prosperity Gospel
deeblisskay
How much?
KevinWithABeard
If there happy, fuck it
takinichi
Replace all music in their house with imagine from John Lennon
phantomLord1983
As a Christian, what your parents did made me cringe
IsaacZehPanda
The least you could do is clarify what you mean by paying a church- no church just straight out says such things.
theguywiththememes
My church I go to never even brings up donations to the church, and when we do donate it goes to single parent families and children in need
Dayrest
Literally what started the Protestant movement.
HaniiPuppy
But the implication that you can buy your way into heaven's heretical.
InfernoTerra
Indulgences. Been around for a long time
Mycatisbetterthanyourcat03
As a church-goer... It doesn't work that way.
GratefulUndead
...but he loves you and he needs money! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iouZYYzQEjU
iLoveItWhenMyFingersSmellLikePussy
Well, they believe it does. Funny how that works!
kevinallover
It's your parents' fault that they think that's what the donations are for.
WindyConditions
Doesn't work that way
remycrane
Psh, prove it
iDrinkDrano
I haven't died yet but I'll let you know if that's the case if you give me a bit
TheLoveMuscle
According to you
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LannistersSendTheirRetards
Nah it works when you give it directly to the pope or Joel osteen
SpeedyMikey
No, they were right. Its not about money given to a church, it's acceptance of Christ being the only way to heaven.
CasuallyMasturbatingInPublic
3edgy5me
stopshoutingicanthearyou
You don't pay your way to heaven. You pave it with good deeds, a humble living, and a kind heart. The rest of us accept that 1/2
stopshoutingicanthearyou
Hell has our rooms made and ready for us for when we get there.
Nuggetti
I do that too, but I call it "buying tickets to a Dream Theater show".
jrhawk42
on the plus side if there is a heaven the people charging aren't getting in (or maybe they are, I don't claim to know how it works).
JohnSmithIncognito
I like contributing during collection. I believe it builds the habit of being more generous that carries into my daily life.
MacMoose
Tell them this dude bought all the available space in Hell (got a pretty good deal too) so everyone has to go to heaven anyways now
TygrF
Sadly I feel anyone gullible enough to do what @OP's parents did are only at church to feel superior to other people. Getting them to think
TygrF
every faithful Christian gets into heaven will ruin it for them.
CasuallyMasturbatingInPublic
The thing is, not ALL of Christianity is like this. These are the retards. Catholics, for instance, know this shit is not ok.
Kongur
Everyone else is wrong, I'm right - every religion ever.
NationalistCanadianMooseWarrior
The thing is, all sects of Christianity think this about all the others.
IsaacZehPanda
Took them awhile to realize that, to be fair lol
laton
No one said Catholics were perfect.
seano96x
Yeah like he said, the papacy was totally controlled by the nobility, he'll the Borgia even made one of their family members a pope.
Aimanfire
That's because the elite had control of the church in the middle ages, and were the only ones who were literate. I'm glad that changed.
neudels
Sounds like a messed up church/religion.
ActuallyJabbaTheHutt
There's a special place in hell for people like that. Seriously, read Dante's Inferno!
keppler38
Tell them that it doubles their deposit if they give more money to you.
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And they will call me a satanist and a sinner...
travishummel
You are right, I can get them a beautiful spot that is 3x better if they give the money to me
Anamesolongnoonecouldhavepossiblychosenit2
Satanism makes some good points
KaptainSigyl
Oh, Satanism is a great philosophy. At least, LeVayan Satanism, which was only called 'Satanism' to bother major religions.
YogaQuotesErmIMeanYodaQuotes
People are taking about Luther but this has been abolished in the Catholic Church for nearly 1000 years
Spetzna13
well it was officially stopped in the catholic church in 1567. and Martin Luther died in 1546. so what you have said is not really true....
Spetzna13
unless 450 rounds up to 1000 now.
AManWhoWasntThere
I'm Catholic,i only give any money (they ask for what you think would be ok to give,nothing more) if i know that the church will use it well
InkyBlinkyPinkyAndClyde
Yeah but, how do you know that? For all you know your money is going to stop condom use in Africa (thus contributing to the AIDS /1
InkyBlinkyPinkyAndClyde
epidemic), or it could be going to political stuff like when they try to stop gay marriage or abortion, or it could be going to defend /2
InkyBlinkyPinkyAndClyde
priests who sexually abused children. You just don't know. /3
Trekker47
I suppose if you wanted you could only give when it's one of those rare collections for maintenance, seminary or priest upkeep.
TygrF
Care to share what denomination they belong to @OP?
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Christians..
SpaceISIS
yeah, I've been to a good half-dozen different denominations of Christianity throughout my life, none of them do this. Care to specify?
TygrF
de·nom·i·na·tion (noun) 1. a recognized autonomous branch of the Christian Church. Care to share what DENOMINATION they belong to?
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Orthodoxes or something like that.
TygrF
So you know enough to mock their faith practices but not enough to name their church? Something's fucky...
DamnedAustin
Yeah, that "something" is telling families that giving money to the church is the path to salvation.
laton
I agree - no major Christian denomination I'm aware of would say you can pay your way to Heaven. Scientology maybe?
Coko4
If going to heaven means spending time with a load of deeply religious people forevermore I'd really rather not go.
Trekker47
I like to think I'm an alright catholic and I go to parties and stuff, you can be religious and also not a killjoy :D
Coko4
I never understood how if you are religious you don't have to follow your holy book to the letter. If you don't, how do you know which (1/2)
Coko4
bits to ignore, which bits to interpret figuratively and which to interpret literally? (I know not all religious people are intolerable btw)
Trekker47
Well the idea is you use reasoning to figure it out, but since that's a massive task more than one person could do, catholicism relies on 1/
Trekker47
tradition and doctrine worked out by theologians, as complimentary to the Bible and its interpretation. 2/2
Coko4
But if you are picking and choosing which bits sound good and which don't based on preconceived ideas, why do you need the book at all?
Profesj
Luther and Calvin: Paying money to get into heaven? F that we're branching off
Tlaxxil
Calvin: lets send some people to heaven while were at it. Michael Severtus: wait what
tusig1243
As casual that summation was, it's pretty accurate
DeaconJon
Now we pay money to fix the roof
thebaldchef
Actually Jesus himself taught in people's homes and the religious necessity for a temple is no longer valid. We build churches just cause.
Trickstan
Unless you have a large congregation
Prospereagles
Just learned this in school, +1
damelamusica
It's the 500th anniversary of Luther's badassery.
benkey1
I know it's not "to get into heaven," but the tithing built into most Protestant faiths these days is at least a little ironic.
theubster
The difference is that encouraging giving as a spiritual practice is radically different than requiring salvation to be purchaced.
benkey1
Agreed. Happily, it appears the Roman Catholic church as well as the Eastern churches have moved past indulgences.
Trekker47
They were never meant to be purchasing heaven in the first place, just acknowledgment of the grace received for being charitable.
Baldeagle33
Upvote for Luther. He was a badass.
BigVag
A badass wouldve come up with an even 100
asspickle
Yeah when he made that green iron man suit and beat up supes it was so awesome
UilleaannShriek
Except starting a peasant revolt and then leaving them to be destroyed when the princes told him to knock it off.
Molder12
"You know what. Screw your religion, I'm gonna make my own... with blackjack. And hookers!"
Molder12
"You know what. Screw your religion, I'm gonna make my own... with blackjack. And hookers!"
TypicalWhiteGuy1
Don't forget booze. Us Luthers love our wine
UilleaannShriek
Except starting a peasant revolt and then leaving them to be destroyed when the princes told him to knock it off.
Trekker47
I could be wrong but didn't he condemn the revolts?
SpraynardYitzben
Pretty sure the Princes offered Luther protection in exchange for him condemning the revolts
Trekker47
Ah okay, thanks for the info!
ohiofulcrum
He wrote some pretty anti-Semitic stuff later on
bolharr2250
He was anti-Semitic towards the Jewish religion, not the Jews as a race. Still bad but he wasn't Hitler
bluemofia
That's not unusual. Everyone was anti-Semitic at that time period. It was only after WWII that hating the Jews went out of fashion.
thedarknessvisible
Does that really free him of bad will?
bluemofia
He's a product of his time. It's still terrible, but you can't fault him for fitting to standards of his day, and not to modern standards.
Baldeagle33
By far the most common response by haters. Go google it and send the source.
ohiofulcrum
I mean, the title of the book is On the Jews and Their Lies. http://vho.org/aaargh/fran/livres9/Luthereng.pdf
ohiofulcrum
Go google it and see for yourself.
Baldeagle33
He had a theological issue with them for sure, he was frustrated that they continually rejected Christ. He wasn't perfect.