Anyone who devalues service workers is ignorant of the impact they have on our health and well being. If you ask me they are severely underpaid and deserve our highest respect.
right ... this depends heavily on context. My parents too constantly talked about how they're having money issues. But the reality is they just always pissed it away the second they got it and I definitely would have preferred spending more time with them instead. But that's just me and I hope surely hope my parents enjoyed/enjoy their lives. Just today preferrably without me.
It is not a man's unique job to "provide" for his family. That's putting a lot of unnecessary sexist pressure on men. And it shouldn't matter if you have a family or not, it's a job and it should pay a decent living wage. Period.
My single mother worked several jobs simultaneously for years to support me and my two brothers after my father died. She wasn't the best mother, especially not towards me, but that's a whole other story. But I'm incredibly grateful to her for always ensuring we had food, shelter, and clothes.
At the same time, that is the bare minimum of what parents are supposed to provide, and the traumas you may have experienced are not lessened by those things being provided
Always nice to the cleaning crew. Those are the greatest people I've ever met, always nice, always friendly, always willing to lend a hand. Literally never met an asshole janitor. Sure they exist someplace though.
Issue is, alot ofnpeople would agree with this, but then say that some jobs aren't "busting ass"...like I work from home troubleshooting water heaters and dealing with all the idiocy and arrogant customers that come with customer service jobs...its not physically demanding but its still a stressful job nonetheless...
“ treat the janitor with the same respect as the CEO”. It doesn’t matter what any job is, it should pay a living wage, and the person doing the job should be respected, (usually MORE than the ceo)
True. The system should work for working people - not just Epstien class billionaires. Restore union strength, end citizens united, healthcare for everyone.
The stigma that's been perpetuated throughout the decades about "certain jobs" being "beneath" them, or that they, for some reason shouldn't be allowed a "livable wage", for some asinine reason or another, is disgusting.
Meanwhile, our government tells us "there's not enough money for universal healthcare" but then "magically" materializes billions when it comes to wars, military budgets and tax breaks for the rich.
The rich need to be eaten and their wealth redistributed to the workers.
Let's be honest though, it's already too hard to live with just one breadwinner in the family. That dream has died and now everyone must win bread or we starve
It's weird you project your stuff on this guy. no where did it say he was the 'designated breadwinner', just that he was providing for his family. His family could be 5 cats in an apartment.
I don't understand your downvotes. People out here letting perfect be the enemy of good. It's a statement relating to the picture, it's not stating it has to be a man, but what does context matter to a mob with their pitchforks out I guess.
It's the breadwinner that PROVIDES for the family, the other person COMPLEMENTS, or HELPS OUT, or INTEGRATES, or any othe synonyms you might want to use...
Some people would call a fair day’s work busting their ass. I used to do factory work: paid okay, usually a regular 40-hour week. I’d say I could rightly describe the work as busting ass. I didn’t mind: hard work for fair wage doesn’t bother me.
But anybody working 40 hours a week should make enough to support themselves and their family at a reasonable standard of living.
Yeah, my first thought was "brave to assume a janitor/cleaner role will pay enough to support a family". Even with no idea of what their household is like (single, couple, family, where they live, etc) it's not a safe assumption. This is one of those memes that might be well intentioned, but it's shallow feel-good and at worst seems like it's glorifying the 'grindset'.
Yep I mean I read story daily of 2 adult no kids that share one netflix account and thats it. both working jobs that pays above minwage that can´t make ends meet. thats when asked by the news reporter where are you planing to have a vacation they said there vacation was a Sunday in December they knew that both would not be working and would go and buy some grocery and make a fancier dinner, not go out and eat... Buy grocery to cook there own because that was all they could afford...
Just remember that a lot of stories online are just that.. stories. Yeah it can happen in places, but online content is made specifically to be engaging by tugging at emotions. Don’t trust anything online, take it with a grain
The only way out of wage slavery is starting your own business. Working for a company that isn't owned by you, is asking to be exploited. (Not that I have been able to do this, but its what I tell my kids.)
That's a great idea! Maybe workers could even come together to and own the business or even the 'means of production' so to say... They could even bargain in a collective manner together for their common interests! It's a good thing there aren't tons of laws and action groups preventing that sort of thing from happening. Oh wait...
At best you are an incubator for new ideas to be purchased by corporations, and you assume all the debt and risk. A vast majority fail.
Honestly, most small businesses fail. With all of peoples accumulated assets. Especially anything in the service industry, like restaurants. Wise money management, education, and thoughtful investment is better advice than simple dipshit slogans. Like give them an accounting class.
Disagree. If you own your own business, you never get laid off, or if you do, its bc of your own actions. Meanwhile, a business you don't own, gives you zero job security bc they can lay you off at any time, regardless of your personal performance. "Assuming all the debt & risk" is worth it, or business owners wouldn't do it. Insulting me is not an argument, its a 1st-grade boy level effort to make yourself feel superior. If you can't disagree with someone without insults, you need to grow up.
Yeah, being told your dreams are fantasy can be insulting.
This is real life though.
You arent always perfectly in control, you can go out of business for many reasons outside of it. Just as mich as you can be laid off. People do a lot of things thinking its worth it...and theyre wrong.
More than half of business fail in the 5 years.
For someone thats never walked in those shoes its easy to fantasize youll beat the odds, and be insulted when they try to ground you in reality.
No. I'm insulted because you directly insulted me. You called names. I don't mind hearing your opinion of reality, that's fine. But you don't have to be insulting to do it. Have a nice day.
beeeeeeerkaaaaa
He would have still worked even if he didn't have a family.
DinkyDoinky
All jobs require a living wage + extra for enrichment. Bread and roses!
OhIfIMust
Someone I know used to gloat that their class’s valedictorian became a janitor.
Buddy, that janitor had a solid union job and a decent pension; you wanna talk finances, they did better than you.
Pelican3
Anyone who devalues service workers is ignorant of the impact they have on our health and well being. If you ask me they are severely underpaid and deserve our highest respect.
dreikommavierzehn
right ... this depends heavily on context. My parents too constantly talked about how they're having money issues. But the reality is they just always pissed it away the second they got it and I definitely would have preferred spending more time with them instead.
But that's just me and I hope surely hope my parents enjoyed/enjoy their lives. Just today preferrably without me.
TungstenOrbital
Wouldn't need to if he was paid a livable wage
Daykiriss
JAJAJA
Niagaran
Don't be just a herk
barstr7
It is not a man's unique job to "provide" for his family. That's putting a lot of unnecessary sexist pressure on men. And it shouldn't matter if you have a family or not, it's a job and it should pay a decent living wage. Period.
kaoticgirl
The 50s did a lot of damage that we are still discovering.
OberWeasel
My single mother worked several jobs simultaneously for years to support me and my two brothers after my father died. She wasn't the best mother, especially not towards me, but that's a whole other story. But I'm incredibly grateful to her for always ensuring we had food, shelter, and clothes.
Arbitrarynamehere
At the same time, that is the bare minimum of what parents are supposed to provide, and the traumas you may have experienced are not lessened by those things being provided
IncognitoEnthusiast
It's not to be celebrated, because that is the bare minimum. He would still have to do that in order to provide for himself.
SnailsAgainstTungstenSpheres
Thanks Facebook. Real deep shit here.
khaoselement
Always nice to the cleaning crew. Those are the greatest people I've ever met, always nice, always friendly, always willing to lend a hand. Literally never met an asshole janitor. Sure they exist someplace though.
DrNicholasRivierA
I janitored then worked on the docks to get through college. Made it into the corporate world. Advanced rapidly, left at 30 to start my own thing.
Working people are way more honorable, and in many ways, more intelligent. YMMV.
pak0chu
A roof over your head and a belly full is success
Trollingstoned
I first read "Wiener" and I was SO confused
DJTrickyM
Issue is, alot ofnpeople would agree with this, but then say that some jobs aren't "busting ass"...like I work from home troubleshooting water heaters and dealing with all the idiocy and arrogant customers that come with customer service jobs...its not physically demanding but its still a stressful job nonetheless...
wario37
“ treat the janitor with the same respect as the CEO”. It doesn’t matter what any job is, it should pay a living wage, and the person doing the job should be respected, (usually MORE than the ceo)
VitaminJay
How about we make sure every job is paid a living, dignified wage and get rid of the concept of billionaires and their simps?
wrennsteven61101
Fact sanitation workers have likely saved as many lives as doctors.maybe more.
TheDoctorCrankenstein
DocWino
I see no argument here.
jethroismaxbaer5772
https://imgur.com/4EhANiU.mp4
ChristopherWChase
I’m gonna go ahead say meth dealers, international weapons manufacturers and health insurance CEO’s are exempt from that claim.
medici
True. The system should work for working people - not just Epstien class billionaires. Restore union strength, end citizens united, healthcare for everyone.
grandestgrandeur
The stigma that's been perpetuated throughout the decades about "certain jobs" being "beneath" them, or that they, for some reason shouldn't be allowed a "livable wage", for some asinine reason or another, is disgusting.
Meanwhile, our government tells us "there's not enough money for universal healthcare" but then "magically" materializes billions when it comes to wars, military budgets and tax breaks for the rich.
The rich need to be eaten and their wealth redistributed to the workers.
OmenJones
*person. Let's walk away from this man being the designated breadwinner thing.
Cheerfulinsanity
Let's be honest though, it's already too hard to live with just one breadwinner in the family. That dream has died and now everyone must win bread or we starve
kaoticgirl
Everyone did. Everyone was me.
moltar512
It's weird you project your stuff on this guy. no where did it say he was the 'designated breadwinner', just that he was providing for his family. His family could be 5 cats in an apartment.
Sasssquatch
I don't understand your downvotes. People out here letting perfect be the enemy of good. It's a statement relating to the picture, it's not stating it has to be a man, but what does context matter to a mob with their pitchforks out I guess.
Lexgeddon
Unless his cats have jobs, then that makes him the designated breadwinner.
thetonestarr
It very directly is implying exactly that he's the designated breadwinner. Shut the actual fuck up.
RemtonDulyak
It's the breadwinner that PROVIDES for the family, the other person COMPLEMENTS, or HELPS OUT, or INTEGRATES, or any othe synonyms you might want to use...
BipedalHumanoidWithSlightlyDifferentNoseRidge
A man shouldn't HAVE to bust his ass to provide. A decent wage for a fair day's work should be enough. But that is communism according to the US.
jzbstl
Some people would call a fair day’s work busting their ass. I used to do factory work: paid okay, usually a regular 40-hour week. I’d say I could rightly describe the work as busting ass. I didn’t mind: hard work for fair wage doesn’t bother me.
But anybody working 40 hours a week should make enough to support themselves and their family at a reasonable standard of living.
BipedalHumanoidWithSlightlyDifferentNoseRidge
Isn't that exactly what I just said?
aducksayswhat
Yeah, my first thought was "brave to assume a janitor/cleaner role will pay enough to support a family". Even with no idea of what their household is like (single, couple, family, where they live, etc) it's not a safe assumption. This is one of those memes that might be well intentioned, but it's shallow feel-good and at worst seems like it's glorifying the 'grindset'.
ZackWester
Yep I mean I read story daily of 2 adult no kids that share one netflix account and thats it. both working jobs that pays above minwage that can´t make ends meet. thats when asked by the news reporter where are you planing to have a vacation they said there vacation was a Sunday in December they knew that both would not be working and would go and buy some grocery and make a fancier dinner, not go out and eat... Buy grocery to cook there own because that was all they could afford...
Furrieskys
Just remember that a lot of stories online are just that.. stories. Yeah it can happen in places, but online content is made specifically to be engaging by tugging at emotions. Don’t trust anything online, take it with a grain
ZackWester
and it was a 1 day off not a 1 week off no one day.
ThrowAwayAcct0000
The only way out of wage slavery is starting your own business. Working for a company that isn't owned by you, is asking to be exploited. (Not that I have been able to do this, but its what I tell my kids.)
VitaminJay
You got startup money? You got startup time? Rent's due and keeps going up every month.
Capitalism is a scam that only benefits the ultra wealthy.
wesjohn404
That's a great idea! Maybe workers could even come together to and own the business or even the 'means of production' so to say... They could even bargain in a collective manner together for their common interests! It's a good thing there aren't tons of laws and action groups preventing that sort of thing from happening. Oh wait...
ThrowAwayAcct0000
Dude, I agree with you
Subsound
Thats such throw away brain dead advice.
At best you are an incubator for new ideas to be purchased by corporations, and you assume all the debt and risk. A vast majority fail.
Honestly, most small businesses fail. With all of peoples accumulated assets. Especially anything in the service industry, like restaurants. Wise money management, education, and thoughtful investment is better advice than simple dipshit slogans. Like give them an accounting class.
ThrowAwayAcct0000
Disagree. If you own your own business, you never get laid off, or if you do, its bc of your own actions. Meanwhile, a business you don't own, gives you zero job security bc they can lay you off at any time, regardless of your personal performance. "Assuming all the debt & risk" is worth it, or business owners wouldn't do it. Insulting me is not an argument, its a 1st-grade boy level effort to make yourself feel superior. If you can't disagree with someone without insults, you need to grow up.
Subsound
Yeah, being told your dreams are fantasy can be insulting.
This is real life though.
You arent always perfectly in control, you can go out of business for many reasons outside of it. Just as mich as you can be laid off. People do a lot of things thinking its worth it...and theyre wrong.
More than half of business fail in the 5 years.
For someone thats never walked in those shoes its easy to fantasize youll beat the odds, and be insulted when they try to ground you in reality.
ThrowAwayAcct0000
No. I'm insulted because you directly insulted me. You called names. I don't mind hearing your opinion of reality, that's fine. But you don't have to be insulting to do it. Have a nice day.
Subsound
*shrug* I love it when people reply and mute me.
Its just being sour, but too scared to say it out loud.