"we had no plan" is a bit subjective. The administration that took control of Venezuela oil money and stashed in a private account just before f*ing the oil market might have had a plan. Just not a good plan for any of us
I hope people see that this is why Iran has to get a nuclear weapon now, and this is why we also don't start shit with both Korea. This president has cemented that nuclear proliferation is the only way to get left alone
personally I don't know how important Navy Hospital Ships are, with planes and allied countries all around, but last I heard the US Navy has 2 and they are both in dry dock getting repairs. Is this something that should have been addressed before we went to war?
Good news! A few months ago, the US Navy decommissioned the last of its incredibly effective mine sweeping ships stationed in the Middle East. There are new ones, but they're too big to get to all mined areas, had tons of failures and glitches during testing, and have never been used in battle. Yay!
Irrationalism also depends on the cult of action for action’s sake. Action being beautiful in itself, it must be taken before, or without, any previous reflection. Thinking is a form of emasculation.
I just wish the world would decide to pay for the switch to renewable energies instead. Costs about the same and solves the problem for good, along with other urgent problems.
According to wikipedia, Netanyahu befriended Trump's psychopath father Fred Trump, as early as the 80's. There's been a cooperation between these scumbags for a long time.
We literally have been filling it all last year. All that will be washed away with the new planned release but I don’t think you appreciate how big it is. Even when you have significantly cheap prices refilling it is a multi billion dollar project you need Congress to sign off on.
The fact that they attacked a naval base adjacent to a school, on a school day, shows they either had no plan, or just don't care. Same goes for the Strait of Hormuz.
It's looking like they struck the school on purpose, because they used 10 year old maps. Back then, the building was part of the base, but it was clearly separated and has been covered in bright murals for years.
that could be a cover story. In the Bosnian war, the US bombed the Chinese embassy and eventually claimed it was due to outdated maps. a decade later it was revealed the real reason was because the Chinese had parts of the B2 bomber that was shot down. (Presumably there's no possible legitimate reason to strike the school though, other than incompetence.)
Oh we had a plan. That plan was to let oil prices skyrocket while our President sells stolen Venezuelan oil, personally controlling how the ill gotten funds from this practice are disbursed. Oh and to let Me ussia sell pil again so his fuck buddy Putin can recover economically from his own idiotic war. Really just a great thing. /S
If they had a plan, they would've filled the strategic reserves beforehand like China, you know, when oil was record cheap. Unless of course the plan was to piss off even the last magas who aren't pissed off yet.
Yeah but he's an idiot right, the amount of oil Venezuela can actually pull out of the ground, even though they have the worlds largest reserves, is around 1% of the amount being held up. Now don't get me wrong, that's still a lot of fucking oil, but oil reserves don't equal oil availability, give them 10 years and they may be able to make a hole in that shortfall, now how long was this war going to last again?
Not long probably. Turning off the spigot to 20% of world supply isn’t popular. Trump dngaf about anything other than his popularity. Not Israel or anything.
Yep. There's a lot of these people in the Israeli government - including a fair few who have explicitly stated that any attempt to even slightly moderate the butchering will see them immediately topple Netanyahu's government because they want blood and Netanyahu had better provide them with slaughter or else he'll be knocked out of his government post and go to prison.
In the last election, the top 9 parties elected to the Knesset were all right-wing. Most of them were even further right than Netanyahu. Keep in mind that was before October 7th. Israeli society is even more fascist now. As right-wing as we think Netanyahu is, he's considered a pragmatic right-leaning moderate in Israel.
Weird how we could take out all of Iran leadership for "corruption and atrocities" or whatever bullshit excuse they roll out but somehow are just powerless to punish Israel for the same but worse behaviors.
It's not weird at all. Israel is murdering brown people, and murdering brown people have always been okay I guess so did Iran, but Iran has a lot of oil.
And our own intel has been telling presidents for decades that this would happen if we poked the country. Trump decided he needed a cover up for his files and doesn't do security briefings so of course he did this. We had an agreement to monitor any nuclear production that he tore up his first administration because it had someone's else's name on it.
According to the DOD this was many months in the planning. This will not end bc the only person who can end it is compromised and always will be. Settle in.
They seem to be pretty scattered on coming up with a reason. I'd kind of expect if they did know what was happening, they'd at least get their stories straight with each other.
Certainly they're playing the markets, and they did know it would happen, with *just* enough notice. But Trump never gave a reason as to why.
I don't see why he cares if they get released, I mean, it doesn't matter to 99% of Republicans that he is a pedo. They'll simply find ways to excuse him for it and put him higher on a pedestal
I think it may be the team. Trump seems a bit confused himself. I doubt he makes many decisions himself. It’s based on the last person to catch his attention. Reality TV for him. Ratings down, stops the war.
These days, I doubt Trump even knows where he is half the time. No reasonable person can possibly look at that senile shitsack and claim to see a healthy and competent president.
monkeyfly
Don't forget the half dozen or so people who will have their wealth significantly increased from this.
IlIIII
The plan is the lift sanctions to lessen the blow. Basically roundabout way of giving money to Russia.
se7enblessings
"we had no plan" is a bit subjective. The administration that took control of Venezuela oil money and stashed in a private account just before f*ing the oil market might have had a plan. Just not a good plan for any of us
clubpingu
Venezuelan oil is the plan
DianNaoChong
I hope people see that this is why Iran has to get a nuclear weapon now, and this is why we also don't start shit with both Korea. This president has cemented that nuclear proliferation is the only way to get left alone
albakSPrince
personally I don't know how important Navy Hospital Ships are, with planes and allied countries all around, but last I heard the US Navy has 2 and they are both in dry dock getting repairs. Is this something that should have been addressed before we went to war?
kaijuuGold
its crazy that the gas in country got more expensive before the resupply gets imported in
picklesue
Trump is a Russian op, this was the plan
varonicaED
Previous US Administrations had plans, you know what they summarise down to, every single one of them? A single word........don't!
DianNaoChong
The plan was negotiate and make a deal, and keep that deal. It worked fine. It was a shame Republicans exist to fuck everything up all the time.
yellowgage
Good news! A few months ago, the US Navy decommissioned the last of its incredibly effective mine sweeping ships stationed in the Middle East.
There are new ones, but they're too big to get to all mined areas, had tons of failures and glitches during testing, and have never been used in battle. Yay!
michaelfire
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malachipyronomicon
No plan? I'm sorry, do you not remember... VeNeZuElA???
Sqeezytzatziki
They have a plan, you forgot about Venezuela. Or should I say tRUMPS pUMPS.
mksu
Rapists just kind of expect their victims to take it.
RigidGristle
titoitoi
lol, just how many Kiwis are there on here, I'm starting to get suspicious https://www.facebook.com/Waikatoadmins/
aChungusAmongUs
yeah it's literally that fuckin stupid
Sludgesoda
Irrationalism also depends on the cult of action for action’s sake. Action being beautiful in itself, it must be taken before, or without, any previous reflection. Thinking is a form of emasculation.
stayingalive4life
But, but, but won’t somebody think of the distraction from the Epstein files?
cousteau
Operation Epstein Files
MattScifiBandit
Bunch of incompetent narcissist just stole the leader of Venezuela with zero consequences. I guess they thought this would be the same
cjpoet
That is correct.
sitenickname
Netanyahu led Trump into a war in which the whole world suffers and pays
FiftyShadesOfCauliflower
I just wish the world would decide to pay for the switch to renewable energies instead. Costs about the same and solves the problem for good, along with other urgent problems.
NinjaCongo
According to wikipedia, Netanyahu befriended Trump's psychopath father Fred Trump, as early as the 80's. There's been a cooperation between these scumbags for a long time.
BobTheSwede
Plan is to fund Russias war against Europe
NonMAGA
Not only that, we didn't fill the Strategic Petroleum Reserve before attacking...the Middle East. It was at 58% that last I saw.
rydecker
like starting a long trip across Death Valley w a half-full tank. Great
excableguy
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/planned-release-of-strategic-reserve-would-put-u-s-supplies-at-lowest-levels-in-44-years/
armagetz
We literally have been filling it all last year. All that will be washed away with the new planned release but I don’t think you appreciate how big it is. Even when you have significantly cheap prices refilling it is a multi billion dollar project you need Congress to sign off on.
armagetz
Deeper question is why did Biden drain ~250 million barrels prior to 2022 midterms when nothing was really happening.
IamIntoleranceIntolerant
The fact that they attacked a naval base adjacent to a school, on a school day, shows they either had no plan, or just don't care. Same goes for the Strait of Hormuz.
FortifiedWhine
Hegseth probably believes that girls should not have been in school in the first place, like most Republicans.
yellowgage
It's looking like they struck the school on purpose, because they used 10 year old maps. Back then, the building was part of the base, but it was clearly separated and has been covered in bright murals for years.
SuddenlySeymour
that could be a cover story. In the Bosnian war, the US bombed the Chinese embassy and eventually claimed it was due to outdated maps. a decade later it was revealed the real reason was because the Chinese had parts of the B2 bomber that was shot down. (Presumably there's no possible legitimate reason to strike the school though, other than incompetence.)
IamIntoleranceIntolerant
That's... even worse. It backs up my statement even more.
GarmBlack
Oh we had a plan. That plan was to let oil prices skyrocket while our President sells stolen Venezuelan oil, personally controlling how the ill gotten funds from this practice are disbursed. Oh and to let Me ussia sell pil again so his fuck buddy Putin can recover economically from his own idiotic war. Really just a great thing. /S
DeanSledgehammer
If they had a plan, they would've filled the strategic reserves beforehand like China, you know, when oil was record cheap. Unless of course the plan was to piss off even the last magas who aren't pissed off yet.
HeyImNotRyan
Also only allowing his sons companies to supply drones to the war effort
Mxlespxles
Fuck
TacoPoweredHelicopter
Isn't it a bit soon for that? Like Venezuelian production is shot right now.
varonicaED
Yeah but he's an idiot right, the amount of oil Venezuela can actually pull out of the ground, even though they have the worlds largest reserves, is around 1% of the amount being held up. Now don't get me wrong, that's still a lot of fucking oil, but oil reserves don't equal oil availability, give them 10 years and they may be able to make a hole in that shortfall, now how long was this war going to last again?
BoogaYooga
It ended two weeks ago, according to Trump
SavageDrums
He will personally make a lot of money, and the cost of fuel has never once concerned him.
alrightalrightalrightpartyatthemoontower
Not long probably. Turning off the spigot to 20% of world supply isn’t popular. Trump dngaf about anything other than his popularity. Not Israel or anything.
GarmBlack
*Russia, not sure why it corrected to Me ussia... weird. and *oil. Goddamn I can't type.
DimwitF
It's cool, easy to understand what you meant
dmbpapa
Not just you, fellow human. 🙃
SavageDrums
It's not you buddy. Predictive text and autocorrect have gotten demonstrably worse since "AI" happened.
And it will continue to enshittify until we stop letting MBAs run things.
Nonada
Jar Jar Binks controlling your phone for one second be like:
EnderKing567
Naw Autocorrect has slowly gone down the dumpster. You'll type completely reasonable sentences and it will mangle it for seemingly no reason.
DimwitF
Meanwhile Ai bullshit, which is essentially shined-up autocorrect, is being shoved in all our faces all the time...
alcamar
If Bibi is dead, i wonder if this will all just fizzle or if someone else is going to pick up his efforts.
SilverNicktail
How the fuck do you back out from starting a war? Iran has to agree to back down too.
ExecutiveProducerWolfDyck
The abrahamic deathcults have more people to take up the reigns.
Frozenspokes
The population of Israel was mostly on board with Gaza genocide so I feel like just getting rid of Netanyahu won't change anything.
EroticZombiePants
Someone at least as bad will replace him. There's just a bunch of people who really wants to, so there's going to be a sorting out period first.
iggylights
They're all monsters. Another Zionazi will happily take his place.
Daliena06
Yep. There's a lot of these people in the Israeli government - including a fair few who have explicitly stated that any attempt to even slightly moderate the butchering will see them immediately topple Netanyahu's government because they want blood and Netanyahu had better provide them with slaughter or else he'll be knocked out of his government post and go to prison.
SquirtVonnegut
In the last election, the top 9 parties elected to the Knesset were all right-wing. Most of them were even further right than Netanyahu. Keep in mind that was before October 7th. Israeli society is even more fascist now. As right-wing as we think Netanyahu is, he's considered a pragmatic right-leaning moderate in Israel.
EroticZombiePants
Fascists don't like to share. There's probably going to be a bunch of in-fighting before one of those parties' leaders emerge on top.
IMakeLotsOfReferencesAndRemakes
Weird how we could take out all of Iran leadership for "corruption and atrocities" or whatever bullshit excuse they roll out but somehow are just powerless to punish Israel for the same but worse behaviors.
Sigge1981
It's not weird at all. Israel is murdering brown people, and murdering brown people have always been okay
I guess so did Iran, but Iran has a lot of oil.
EroticZombiePants
Plus, Israel lets us keep stuff there.
LaffertyDanie1
Google itamar ben-gvir
JusticePhrall
Ooh, he's a nasty piece of work, alright.
LaffertyDanie1
That dude makes Stephen Miller look like a teddy bear
HeresYourSauce
We had no plans whatsoever. Even the republicans have been floundering on what to say.
Trump didn't so much as consult his own team.
reichstein
Surely Trump had at least the concept of a plan. /s
SOLARvsFACISM
We have almost 5 decades of plans, but no one in the Trump administration consulted anyone who worked on or knew about those plans.
skincancerisfun
Trump had a plan. Fuck shit up so people would stop asking about the Epstein files
xj4low
And our own intel has been telling presidents for decades that this would happen if we poked the country. Trump decided he needed a cover up for his files and doesn't do security briefings so of course he did this. We had an agreement to monitor any nuclear production that he tore up his first administration because it had someone's else's name on it.
fnansen
According to the DOD this was many months in the planning. This will not end bc the only person who can end it is compromised and always will be. Settle in.
profloyo
I think it might be worse, they do know this will happen (duh) but act like the don’t and then they play the collapsing markets to make a lot of money
HeresYourSauce
They seem to be pretty scattered on coming up with a reason. I'd kind of expect if they did know what was happening, they'd at least get their stories straight with each other.
Certainly they're playing the markets, and they did know it would happen, with *just* enough notice. But Trump never gave a reason as to why.
Mmbear
Israel said attack or we are releasing the real Epstein files. He will let the world burn to save his own ass.
Weraim
I don't see why he cares if they get released, I mean, it doesn't matter to 99% of Republicans that he is a pedo. They'll simply find ways to excuse him for it and put him higher on a pedestal
bekkayya
that he knows that and still hides it means theres like something somehow worse in there
alrightalrightalrightpartyatthemoontower
I think it may be the team. Trump seems a bit confused himself. I doubt he makes many decisions himself. It’s based on the last person to catch his attention. Reality TV for him. Ratings down, stops the war.
sturmhauke
These days, I doubt Trump even knows where he is half the time. No reasonable person can possibly look at that senile shitsack and claim to see a healthy and competent president.
feltenix
He wants to be like his hero who also attacked a country without a plan.
Neanderthalersutopiaphilandrousanteatersotherbrother
Sadly trump doesnt even have the slightest implication of the balls needed to put a gun to his head
billstranger
Are you referring to Putin, the cuck loser?
KosmsLabyrinth
You dont know that, he could be talking about Hitler
billstranger
Hitler? The cuck loser?
feltenix
I read somewhere he's got his hero's book on his bedside table, but that implies he can read.
BeatriceAine
He could be talking about W.
Ambrosyus
To be fair, I dont think I saw W's name in the E-Files