One of the great mysteries of our time

Mar 13, 2017 8:40 PM

DrunkInTheRain

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Almost everyone seems to know about this – the pointy “S” thing you and your classmates drew all over everything from books, notebooks, and desk tops. But where the hell did it come from? It is a real life meme, which went viral before the internet existed. But the origins are a mystery.

It seems like it is found on every continent in the world, always somewhere in middle-school or early high-school. A few people claim to have seen these as far back as the 1950's. It's kind of weird that so many different people in different times and places all seem to doodle the same thing with no knowledge of what it is or represents.

The mysterious symbol, which consists of 14 lines that forms a stylized “S”, has been called many things. Most common monikers are the “Super S” or “Stussy S”.

Stussy is a surfwear clothing brand started in the early 1980s. “No, this is not an original Stussy Logo,” stated Emmy Coates, who has worked alongside founder Shawn Stussy since 1985. “I personally get asked this a lot, but people have been drawing this S long before Stussy was established. People have just assumed it was Stussy and it’s sort of spread from there. It’s actually quite amusing.” So the Stussy brand clearly came after the origination of the symbol.

Other similarities can be found in other logos, such as for the band Styx, car maker Suzuki, or Netherlands passenger railway operator Nederlandse Spoorwegen. People who were kids in the 50’s and 60’s have reported memories of doodling the "S" and called it the "Superman S", even though it does not have any striking resemblance to any Superman logo ever used in comics, TV or movies.

Some say that it has origins from graffiti. It is an easy symbol to learn and reproduce, and could have had a start this way. In fact, in the 80’s and 90’s when the "S" was at the peak of its popularity, some schools actually banned kids from drawing it, claiming that it had gang affiliation.

Another fairly logical sounding theory is that the symbol gets is origination from a puzzle book that was released by Scholastic books back in the 1950’s. The original puzzle simply showed two rows of three vertical lines, and the challenge was to turn them into the letter S by adding eight more straight lines. This became wide spread because everybody used to get Scholastic books in elementary school at one point or another.

It is pretty much agreed that everyone either drew it themselves or knew someone that did. But why? Why did you draw them? What does it/did it symbolize to you? And who taught it to you? That is the mystery. It seems like children all over the planet doodle this, but no one can truly pinpoint when or where it started.

The world may never know…

This was a thing at my elementary school in mid 1990's, in a small Finnish town. Can't remember what it was called though.

9 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

I learned it from the Brain Teasers book in 4th grade. 1973.

9 years ago | Likes 34 Dislikes 0

I used to draw it when I was a kid here in Sweden back in the late 90's...

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

I never saw this. Are you sure you're not all making it up?

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

I did this all the time in the 90s ro early 00s in NZ.

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

hi :)

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

How's it going?

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

In Louisiana back in the late 80s while I was in elementary school....it was used by a gang called Southside.

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

I remember being shown how to draw this in the late 80s.

9 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Stussy said it wasn't theirs and that it was being drawn before they were established, so how does Stussy predate the symbol..........

9 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

Yeah, somehow the 1980-founded company "predates" the 1950s Scholastic book with it in there? Something's fucky.

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Yup, kids got sent to the principal's office for drawing that. The teachers thought it was a gang sign.

9 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

An SCP Beta-Gimmel Memetic Hazard.

9 years ago | Likes 42 Dislikes 1

We got accused of being in a "gang" in 1995 for tagging this on a old barn in the woods.

9 years ago | Likes 152 Dislikes 3

Don't graffiti then

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 8

9 years ago | Likes 55 Dislikes 0

Our school banned it for gang affiliation like the post said. Of course, it was announced right after I drew it all over my homework.

9 years ago | Likes 29 Dislikes 0

This logo, by the way, is the literal expression of memetics. It is a meme.

9 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

Memetics theory of mental content based on an analogy with Darwinian evolution From Richard Dawkins '76 book The Selfish Gene. Not literally

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Thanks for posting Interesting and type of thing I think about at times

9 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

I learned it early 2000's as the "Superman S." It's like playground songs, nobody knows where the hell it came from b/c it's spread by kids.

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Yeah it was the superman s for me too, except it was the early nineties when I learned it from my older siblings.

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

it comes from Blackletter typography that was developed by medæval German scribes for their Bibles… google Gothic Script/Blackletter

9 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Thats not the same thing.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Saw the thumbnail, thought "imma break @Op's mind wide open." - then saw it had nothing to do with Stussy

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

My sister, born 1980, taught me this 1995. I thought she was so cool.

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

I'm from michigan, and everyone I know wrote the S as a symbol for Michigan States football team. Just assumed that it was a state fan thing

9 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

Also from MI and can confirm.

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Same here. Go green

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

My initials are SS. So I drew the shit out of that thing.

9 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

i can also think of other SS symbols you could doodle!

9 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

it's a trap!

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Severus Snape?

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I always thought it was Slipknot the bands logo

9 years ago | Likes 18 Dislikes 4

Whoa. I learned to draw this when I was eight or nine. That would have been around 1990.

9 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

I drew it around 98 when I was 12. It was just 'a thing' people drew with no significant meaning.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Way older than that, though.

9 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Well slipknot started in 95 and I don't remember seeing it before that

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

This post mentions people drawing it in the 50s, though.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Oh, didn't read that far

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

All of my elementary school notebooks had the Super S doodled all over the last page. My name starts with S and I thought I made it up.

9 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 1

Another part of your childhood crushed.

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Another?

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I actually never saw that in the wild. Only read about it on the internet. I feel left out.

9 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

We're a bunch, I gather.

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Are we not gonna talk about the guy in the .gif drawing it backwards?

9 years ago | Likes 18 Dislikes 1

He isn't doing it backwards, note the slanted parts, he is making the number eight, not the letter S.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 3

Think you might want to rewatch it.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Turned my phone upside down to confirm. Still backwards. Wtf.

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

My ten year old showed this to me. I told her I used to draw it when I was her age and she's like how? This is new?! You're old!

9 years ago | Likes 566 Dislikes 1

Reminds me of FEZ

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Childlore. Memes that pass pretty much only from child to child, even traversing generations, without the involvement of adults.

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Holy hell

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I don't remember the term but it's an example of something akin to child culture. Songs, rhymes, symbols, & more found in an age group (1/?)

9 years ago | Likes 24 Dislikes 0

regardless of region. Siblings teach younger siblings, one class to another, school to school etc. Once away from that group, (2/?)

9 years ago | Likes 17 Dislikes 0

I.e. older, individuals cease those practices and begin adopting adult cultural traits. Fascinating subject because of how widespread (3/4)

9 years ago | Likes 17 Dislikes 0

the practices may be. And however innocuous, they are mysterious in origin -- passed in oral tradition. Truly a culture unto itself! (4/4)

9 years ago | Likes 16 Dislikes 0

I remember reading something very similar to this mentioning things like the floor is lava game and a couple of other simple games too.

9 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

This is it, guys. The first. The original. The Protomeme.

9 years ago | Likes 34 Dislikes 1

I'll argue hieroglyphs were the protomemes. "I don't always fuck 14-year-old virgins...but when I do, I don't feel bad at all." Rameses II

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

I'd argue human language was the first meme.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

nah. the protomeme is the "_____ was here"

9 years ago | Likes 14 Dislikes 1

S A T O R A R E P O T E N E T O P E R A R O T A S

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

It's the key code to get into the other universe where the Bernstein Bears exist.

9 years ago | Likes 26 Dislikes 2

Kazaam!

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Berenstain*

9 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 1

Mandela effect

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

*fucking commie magic

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Psychological memory disillusion.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I never in my life drew this symbol

9 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

Same, I don't remember any kid drawing this either.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Me neither. First time I saw it was here on Imgur.

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

you didnt have a childhood

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Me neither, and hadn't seen it before.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Where did you come from, where did you go, where did that S come from yo

9 years ago | Likes 364 Dislikes 7

*STOMPS FEET VIOLENTLY IN RYTHM*

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

From my planet where it means hope.

9 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

cotton eyed joe!

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

I wish this had the right number syllables to match the song.

9 years ago | Likes 18 Dislikes 0

...where did that silly S come from yo

9 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

...where did that S thing come from, yo?

9 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 1

no this still lacks a syllable

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Much better. My OCT thanks you.

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Get out. I'll up vote you, but you just got that shit stuck in my head gorramit

9 years ago | Likes 45 Dislikes 0

I miss firefly. :(

9 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

Now I wanna see a Firefly Joe. "If it hadn't been for Firefly Joe, I'da been eaten long time ago. What are the reavers, where did they go?"

9 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

"Where did they come from Firefly Joe?"

9 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

God damnit stop giving us ear worms people

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0