Unfortunately, hate is a powerful rallying force. If you've got a diverse group of people with little in common, find something for them all to hate, it'll bring them together and unite them. And then just make yourself the symbol of that hate, and now they'll follow you as their leader. It's a bit of a human psychology cheat code.
It's almost as if there is a power and money hungry elite that uses ignorance as a distraction and tool for maintaining their hideously immoral grip on society.
the truth is that outside of a few vestigial backwaters, this current generation of chuds has been trained by a new kind of right-wing messaging that emphasizes the hatred of LIBERALS far more than the traditional race-baiting that their pappies and granpappies were raised on.
They live for hierarchy, and don't know who they are without an authority telling them what it is. They always have to be kissing the butts of those above and hating on those below.
Conservatives believe we're at the end of the story and want to win. Liberals believe we're at the beginning of the story and want to make a good start .
Sat in the room with my 68 year old dad a while ago, typical Irish Da, minds his own business, says very little, out of the blue he announces "I just cant see how people fall for this stuff about trans people, its the exact same lies they said about gay people when I was young, about them being a threat, it was a lie then and its a lie now, how can people be so stupid?" Sometimes the elders are alright.
Ah, but you see they hate themselves most all. Cause just look at those mopes, even they would kick themselves out of the country club given the chance
There is a mass of people that demagogues can appeal to. It’s very rare that anyone tries to manipulate them for good purposes, some crowdfunding, maybe. The way to appeal to these people is to make them hate, just like in 1984. Most bad leaders, unlike say Trump or Hitler, don’t actually hate a lot of the people they victimize to gain power, but we are in exceptionally bad times.
Notice how it's always moving to smaller and smaller groups of people in the US. (Yes, I know muslims are a massive group worldwide, but smaller in the US.) Soon enough it's going to be blaming some poor guy named Dave for everything.
It does not. Women were a much larger group than Black folks. They use small groups as the wedge, to test the waters and expand the acceptance of hate. It's more marginalized groups right now that are getting the most public hate (immigrants, the homeless, trans people) but all the other hate is still there, still active, and getting more and more open and public all the time as the hate against the more marginalized groups feels to them like it's gaining traction.
And so it was, that on the 3rd Sunday after the 3rd new moon, Dave was betrayed by Steve, handed over to ICE and nailed to a cross, dying for our sins and for our redemption.
Political Orientations Are Correlated with Brain Structure in Young Adults https://www.cell.com/current-biology/fulltext/S0960-9822(11)00289-2 Political Polarization Triggers Conservatives’ Misinformation Spread to Attain Ingroup Dominance https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/00222429241264997 Fear predicts authoritarian attitudes across cultures, with conservatives most affected https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/jopy.13026 (2/3)
Gov. Ron DeSantis said something to the effect of "You look at students who enter college, and by the time they graduate MOST are now leftists. The schools are an indoctrination for Socialism, Marxism. If we don't do something about it, we're going to lose the entire Conservative movement."
Gaslighting, of course. What do you know... when people get EDUCATED they tend to DROP from the Conservative movement. Any wonder why? Maybe it's because people learn the truth.
It isn't even about education in the terms they think per se, it's about critical thinking. Collegiate level courses highly promote critical thinking, analysis of themes/tropes, understanding intent behind writings, etc... This critical thinking process elevates *most* people beyond the base superstitions that moor them to the hateful ideologies behind conservatism.
Kind of! It's interconnected. Critical thinking means when someone who has been taught foreigners are evil their whole life finally meets someone from another country, they can connect the dots and say "Hey, this guy is actually kind of cool. If my folks were wrong about him, maybe those other things I was taught were wrong too?"
Well yes, "education" is the broad term, which encompasses not just awareness and understanding, but also critical thinking skills.
I once saw a dumbass MAGAt being interviewed, asked about critical thinking, and they bounced back with "no, I'm against that woke shit." They were confusing it with "critical race theory." Dumb, dumber, dumbest, dumbfuckshittery.
They hated blacks until they needed them to win elections - now they hate them, but with deniability
They hated women - and brown people - and gay people - until they needed them to win elections - see above
Trans folks make up such a tiny portion of the population - right up there with Marvel's mutants (0.5% - some 32 million on Earth 616) that it's 'safe' to hate them because there's so few and moderates are too busy worrying about the price of gas to notice them being wiped out
There's not only not really enough of them to pool money - but most of them just want to live. And just wanting to live in peace is rarely conducive to staggering gobs of cash
The right doesn't understand LGBTQ+. They don't need to be understood to be accepted and left alone to be happy. Everyone deserves to be happy. What goes on behind closed bedroom doors of 2 consenting adaults is none of their business.
You would think if they truly cared, then they wouldn't accept and support a child rapist.
A few things: America was at it most prosperous when we had an over 90% marginal tax rate.
Christianity is actually much more interested in you giving up a large amount of your money and sharing it with others. Hell, one of the few with a vow of poverty.
You're currently under the tax cuts of someone who cut as much as possible to deprive those in need and most Americans are doing worse than ever.
People like me? Expand on that (I love this part). Also, if you're poor, and taxes go up, it still hurts, even if you don't pay much in taxes. It amazes me how blind/ignorant leftists are to how much taxation hurts the poor.
Intelligent people are rarely wealthy, because they also have a true moral compass. Intelligence is more than IQ, the worst measure of intelligence. This is an argument I am willing to take.
When people say hatred, they mean broad hatred for a class of people defined by their skin color or gender or something along those lines. They don't mean the sort of hatred that smart and kind people have for bigoted dumbasses.
So the people who are telling me to seriously injure/kill myself is criticism, not hatred? Wait, I'm starting to understand so much about leftist "love" now. Thank you for the clarification.
I highly doubt you could provide examples, because the "hate" coming from "the left" is just people telling you that the actual hate coming from people like you is unacceptable.
You obviously didn't look at any of the other replies to my comment. If you did, you'd see nothing but hate. No counter arguments. Just hate. The examples provide themselves whenever you call them out, on both sides.
Pointing out that your comment was stupid, and even that you're an idiot for saying it, isn't "hate", sweetie.
You don't have an example of hate from the left, becayse there just isn't any. You just need to pretend there is so you can try to justify your own bullshit.
Ah, so asking me to seriously injure myself is not hate? Is that how leftists show love? It doesn't surprise me. Also, your last sentence pretty much states "Anyone who disagrees with me is not worthy of respect". What a great stance to take. It really invites free-thinkers, doesn't it?
I actually think running into a wall might help improve your intelligence though. It was more support if anything. Also, you guys aren’t free thinkers. You blindly obey the orders of your podcasters, church leaders, and TV personalities without question. You guys are the biggest lapdogs in the population. If more of you ran head first into a wall it might actually be a serious improvement for everyone.
No, it's more like this - The right: "If you don't agree, kill yourself". The left: "If you don't agree with me, kill yourself." You: "SO MUCH HATE FROM THE RIGHT". I don't agree with hate, regardless of who it's coming from. Take notes.
No it absolutely is not. 100% of hate from the right is, and always has been, "I will kill you with my bare hands because I'm a big strong patriot and killing things is what gives me joy". There were no left-wing lynchings, the number of left-wing attacks are vastly outperformed by right-wing attacks. Every time there's a right-wing mass murderer, it's treated like a freak accident. Any time there's a left-wing mass murder, it's treated like they were a foaming psychopath.
"The leftist desire to tax the super rich and give the money to the poor and middle class is going to make everyone poor" is the stupidest thing you've said and you routinely say really really really stupid shit.
Did you ever stop to ask yourself if that actually makes sense for anyone to want? You clearly don't view leftists as real people, but shallow stereotypes.
Literally everyone here is telling you otherwise, yet you stubbornly maintain that you're correct despite the facts. So what did "asking" yourself actually involve in this case? Clearly it spurred no actual investigation of your assumptions or biases. That's not introspection, that's navelgazing.
No. Allowing unrestricted gain is the reason we have billionaires, their bootlivkers, and people working fulltimr while also needing welfare to survive. You're trying to mischaracterize social welfare as forced labor. It isn't. All you're spouting is regressive fantasies, amd you know they're lies - but they're the lies you WANT to believe.
No, I'm not mischaracterizing it at all. People can barely survive on what they make right now. If leftists had their way, we'd have 70-80% of our income taxed, meaning the people who are struggling right now, would be completely destroyed. It's like they'd rather sink the entire ship to take out a few people.
Sweetie, the left wants you and people like you to pay LESS in taxes.
We want the rich to pay more in taxes.
You are not in the class of people we want taxed more, and you never will be.
You just keep demonstrating that you don't actually understand the topics you're arguing about. You're just repeating obviously false right-wing talking points with absolutely nothing to back up your claims.
Yes, you are. The minimum wage hasn't been raised in over a decade. Prices have gone up, bills have gone up, but the pay hasn't. At the same time,the wealthy are wealthier. Where's that money going? Out of the pockets of people. This is all happening now, under the system you're trying to defend by implication. Leftists, not democrats, want the wealthy to pay more. This is where you lie.
bambinod
Unfortunately, hate is a powerful rallying force. If you've got a diverse group of people with little in common, find something for them all to hate, it'll bring them together and unite them. And then just make yourself the symbol of that hate, and now they'll follow you as their leader. It's a bit of a human psychology cheat code.
Whitebeardthepirate
SmashySashimi
It's almost as if there is a power and money hungry elite that uses ignorance as a distraction and tool for maintaining their hideously immoral grip on society.
peedrinkingcrapface
the truth is that outside of a few vestigial backwaters, this current generation of chuds has been trained by a new kind of right-wing messaging that emphasizes the hatred of LIBERALS far more than the traditional race-baiting that their pappies and granpappies were raised on.
ErindorGhostPope
They still hate all those people.
FTUG
What's fucked is that they still hate all of the previous groups as much as whatever new one they attach too.
cgt9803
They live for hierarchy, and don't know who they are without an authority telling them what it is. They always have to be kissing the butts of those above and hating on those below.
vericon151
Welcome to the Blame the Group game.
It has been Native Americans, Irish, Mexicans, Italians, Germans, Indians, etc, etc.
Pick a decade and name the “culprit”! Step right up.
TheDefective
https://stonecenter.gc.cuny.edu/files/2022/09/Strolovitch-1.pdf Punks, Bulldaggers, and Welfare Queens: The radical potential of Queer politics? Cathy J. Cohen
meme2zombie
caerulakid
I really wish those shitheel bigots would keep Science’s name out of their mouths.
StillScreamingIntoTheVoid
Conservatives believe we're at the end of the story and want to win. Liberals believe we're at the beginning of the story and want to make a good start .
franci91
It's that good Christian upbringing!
Hippopotamuswhale
rightwingers are cancer of earth and they need to be removed
VinnieJonesDiary
Sat in the room with my 68 year old dad a while ago, typical Irish Da, minds his own business, says very little, out of the blue he announces "I just cant see how people fall for this stuff about trans people, its the exact same lies they said about gay people when I was young, about them being a threat, it was a lie then and its a lie now, how can people be so stupid?"
Sometimes the elders are alright.
davebarton315101
Don’t forget about dirty hippie pinko fags. I guess I must be older than you.
Fanner50
https://youtu.be/752o2cyZkTQ
cabalin
Or when people question their so-called Christian values
imnotinthewitnessprotectionprogram
Ah, but you see they hate themselves most all. Cause just look at those mopes, even they would kick themselves out of the country club given the chance
509tigerfish
junkgoof
There is a mass of people that demagogues can appeal to. It’s very rare that anyone tries to manipulate them for good purposes, some crowdfunding, maybe. The way to appeal to these people is to make them hate, just like in 1984. Most bad leaders, unlike say Trump or Hitler, don’t actually hate a lot of the people they victimize to gain power, but we are in exceptionally bad times.
Raventhief
Notice how it's always moving to smaller and smaller groups of people in the US. (Yes, I know muslims are a massive group worldwide, but smaller in the US.) Soon enough it's going to be blaming some poor guy named Dave for everything.
scarlettsletters920
That happens at my work but we don't have anyone named Dave
NickRivieraMD
It does not. Women were a much larger group than Black folks. They use small groups as the wedge, to test the waters and expand the acceptance of hate. It's more marginalized groups right now that are getting the most public hate (immigrants, the homeless, trans people) but all the other hate is still there, still active, and getting more and more open and public all the time as the hate against the more marginalized groups feels to them like it's gaining traction.
Hatlled
My name ain't Dave. But lemme tell you how *close* you are to being right.
TonyDiethelm
Fuck'in Dave!
JamieSays
I think his name is Donald...
Zalure17
I mean Dave has a pretty crappy video game about diving. Sorry Dave.
mafiacarstarter
To be fair, it IS Dave's fault.
darthstormer
And so it was, that on the 3rd Sunday after the 3rd new moon, Dave was betrayed by Steve, handed over to ICE and nailed to a cross, dying for our sins and for our redemption.
mafiacarstarter
I fear this could be the beginning of some sub-genius level tomfoolery.
bourbonandbaddecisions
They are attacking a group that composes 1% of the population.
SandyTentaclez
Thats always the case with these disgusting people. They screech into microphones and cameras how their freedom of speech is on danger...
TheDefective
Oh its well documented, here https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/7870768-never-believe-that-anti-semites-are-completely-unaware-of-the-absurdity
"Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit:
There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect."
https://crookedtimber.org/2018/03/21/liberals-against-progressives/#comment-729288 (1/3)
drtmr
I would say that's the general strategy of a lot of people. Like, it's the universal "in-group bias" thing but, like, formally codified.
TheDefective
Political Orientations Are Correlated with Brain Structure in Young Adults https://www.cell.com/current-biology/fulltext/S0960-9822(11)00289-2 Political Polarization Triggers Conservatives’ Misinformation Spread to Attain Ingroup Dominance https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/00222429241264997 Fear predicts authoritarian attitudes across cultures, with conservatives most affected https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/jopy.13026 (2/3)
TheDefective
Moralizing partisanship when surrounded by copartisans versus in mixed company https://academic.oup.com/pnasnexus/article/4/4/pgaf105/8102233 On the grammar of politics or Why conservatives prefer nouns https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/pops.12327 (3/3)
jamiedBreaker
All hail the sauceman
TheDefective
It would take one third of the productive forces to create a decent standard of living for all. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6013539/
BigDaddysMeatWagon
I love you.
KillingTlme
Without Hate and Fear, Republicans would have no platform.
cytherians
Gov. Ron DeSantis said something to the effect of "You look at students who enter college, and by the time they graduate MOST are now leftists. The schools are an indoctrination for Socialism, Marxism. If we don't do something about it, we're going to lose the entire Conservative movement."
Gaslighting, of course. What do you know... when people get EDUCATED they tend to DROP from the Conservative movement. Any wonder why? Maybe it's because people learn the truth.
KileyBarker
It isn't even about education in the terms they think per se, it's about critical thinking. Collegiate level courses highly promote critical thinking, analysis of themes/tropes, understanding intent behind writings, etc... This critical thinking process elevates *most* people beyond the base superstitions that moor them to the hateful ideologies behind conservatism.
rcgom
polite disagreement: it not because of what is taught @ college, its about all the different people they meet while there.
KileyBarker
Kind of! It's interconnected. Critical thinking means when someone who has been taught foreigners are evil their whole life finally meets someone from another country, they can connect the dots and say "Hey, this guy is actually kind of cool. If my folks were wrong about him, maybe those other things I was taught were wrong too?"
cytherians
Well yes, "education" is the broad term, which encompasses not just awareness and understanding, but also critical thinking skills.
I once saw a dumbass MAGAt being interviewed, asked about critical thinking, and they bounced back with "no, I'm against that woke shit." They were confusing it with "critical race theory." Dumb, dumber, dumbest, dumbfuckshittery.
GratuaCuun
They hated blacks until they needed them to win elections - now they hate them, but with deniability
They hated women - and brown people - and gay people - until they needed them to win elections - see above
Trans folks make up such a tiny portion of the population - right up there with Marvel's mutants (0.5% - some 32 million on Earth 616) that it's 'safe' to hate them because there's so few and moderates are too busy worrying about the price of gas to notice them being wiped out
jayman0123
TheWombatStrikesAgain
They still hate black people, brown people, lbgtq people, muslims, etc. Yet they still can get votes from these groups.
Also see: Florida Cubans, or the muslims who voted Trump because they thought Kamala wasn't hard enough on Israel.
GratuaCuun
https://media4.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPWE1NzM3M2U1NnEwMnc5YXh2NnY3OG9oMDQyazI0dDUxbnh3eWd0bjh0bWE5ZHcyOCZlcD12MV9naWZzX3NlYXJjaCZjdD1n/XvkLWX1LKrUElQLvrJ/200w.webp
haileris23
xj4low
And trans people are less organized so won't have any lobbyist working for them in Washington to buy votes and bills.
anarchoFeline
trans people are actually pretty organized but we are actually also quite poor. which in America means we don't have political power.
GratuaCuun
There's not only not really enough of them to pool money - but most of them just want to live. And just wanting to live in peace is rarely conducive to staggering gobs of cash
Kazran Sardick: who are you? What do you want?
The Eleventh Doctor: ... ... ... a quiet life
https://media3.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPWE1NzM3M2U1ZGxha2o1ZWljajloczVyanZla2xna3owNnhydHBsMzN5YmowYWhqeiZlcD12MV9naWZzX3NlYXJjaCZjdD1n/zcqLQ63bqAyre/200w.webp
xj4low
The right doesn't understand LGBTQ+. They don't need to be understood to be accepted and left alone to be happy. Everyone deserves to be happy. What goes on behind closed bedroom doors of 2 consenting adaults is none of their business.
You would think if they truly cared, then they wouldn't accept and support a child rapist.
GratuaCuun
TheDefective
www.youtube.com/watch?v=qURAOGDBeN0
JeyYoung333
10000000%
People hate when I tell them THEY ARE WHO HE IS TALKING ABOUT.
Fuck Gavin Newsom
ShoopDeDoop
To be fair, the same type of hate exists on the left for anyone who isn't willing to go into poverty to help people in poverty.
DYLANLEE79
https://media3.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPWE1NzM3M2U1MW13bGV0MWR5Y3czN3dudGZmeWs3cTIxZWZ3ODl2M3Bmand3Mm1pOCZlcD12MV9naWZzX3NlYXJjaCZjdD1n/rTbCwVwofxcic/200w.webp
ImYourWifesBoyfriend
You’re a fucking idiot, thanks for letting us all know.
Raventhief
Doubt he's fucking anyone.
MajorNikon
TheMellowMoron
MasterBountakun
A few things: America was at it most prosperous when we had an over 90% marginal tax rate.
Christianity is actually much more interested in you giving up a large amount of your money and sharing it with others. Hell, one of the few with a vow of poverty.
You're currently under the tax cuts of someone who cut as much as possible to deprive those in need and most Americans are doing worse than ever.
TheDefective
TheDefective
TheDefective
TheDefective
TheDefective
Bojovnik84
ShoopDeDoop
Right back at you buddy.
foreverinchains
Don't hurt yourself trying to think up an insult, little buddy.
ShoopDeDoop
I don't really need to. You're the one who jumped to insults after failing to take constructive criticism.
foreverinchains
You should start looking at usernames, sweetie.
You also don't seem to understand what constructive criticism is.
Whining "no u" is not constructive criticism.
wandermanspacebot
What is the "going into poverty" situation you're referencing?
ShoopDeDoop
Taxing people so much that they end up in poverty, so that they can help everyone who is in poverty.
alsoAzrael
Poor people generally don't pay much in taxes, if anything at all. In fact, that's something people like you like to complain about.
ShoopDeDoop
People like me? Expand on that (I love this part). Also, if you're poor, and taxes go up, it still hurts, even if you don't pay much in taxes. It amazes me how blind/ignorant leftists are to how much taxation hurts the poor.
wadatahmydamie
Do you have an example of anyone who was “taxed into poverty,” or did your dad raise you to be a liar?
wandermanspacebot
Yeah, that's not a thing, Mars.
ShoopDeDoop
Keep telling yourself that.
wandermanspacebot
Where has it occurred?
sv1rr
Thank you for making me realize that I am intellectually Superior to at least one person, Mars.
Bojovnik84
This one actually doesn't have negative karma, so it isnt him. I almost thought the same, but this is just another moron to add to the pile.
sv1rr
Even worse.
Raventhief
Also morally. Don't forget morally.
sv1rr
Intelligent people are rarely wealthy, because they also have a true moral compass. Intelligence is more than IQ, the worst measure of intelligence. This is an argument I am willing to take.
foreverinchains
Give some examples of the "hate" coming from the left, bud.
Failing to do so will be an admission that you're just making shit up to try to justify your own hate.
You can do better than "no u", can't you?
ShoopDeDoop
Check the replies to my comment, bud.
alsoAzrael
When people say hatred, they mean broad hatred for a class of people defined by their skin color or gender or something along those lines. They don't mean the sort of hatred that smart and kind people have for bigoted dumbasses.
ShoopDeDoop
Oh, so now hatred is only allowed to be felt and applied by certain classes of people? What an awful bigot you are.
Khanamana324
That isn’t hatred bub, that’s criticism. That you are unable to tell the difference between the two is telling.
ShoopDeDoop
So the people who are telling me to seriously injure/kill myself is criticism, not hatred? Wait, I'm starting to understand so much about leftist "love" now. Thank you for the clarification.
Khanamana324
Do you not know what hyperbole is? Because nobody actually wants you to hurt yourself.
foreverinchains
You haven't given a response, bud.
I highly doubt you could provide examples, because the "hate" coming from "the left" is just people telling you that the actual hate coming from people like you is unacceptable.
ShoopDeDoop
You obviously didn't look at any of the other replies to my comment. If you did, you'd see nothing but hate. No counter arguments. Just hate. The examples provide themselves whenever you call them out, on both sides.
foreverinchains
Pointing out that your comment was stupid, and even that you're an idiot for saying it, isn't "hate", sweetie.
You don't have an example of hate from the left, becayse there just isn't any. You just need to pretend there is so you can try to justify your own bullshit.
It's just "no u".
Be better, bud.
hungoveratworkguy
Do society a favor and run head first into a wall.
ShoopDeDoop
Excellent counter-point. It really showcases the hate that I'm speaking of.
hungoveratworkguy
I don’t hate you. I just don’t respect you. You and your ilk are not worthy of respect.
ShoopDeDoop
Ah, so asking me to seriously injure myself is not hate? Is that how leftists show love? It doesn't surprise me. Also, your last sentence pretty much states "Anyone who disagrees with me is not worthy of respect". What a great stance to take. It really invites free-thinkers, doesn't it?
hungoveratworkguy
I actually think running into a wall might help improve your intelligence though. It was more support if anything. Also, you guys aren’t free thinkers. You blindly obey the orders of your podcasters, church leaders, and TV personalities without question. You guys are the biggest lapdogs in the population. If more of you ran head first into a wall it might actually be a serious improvement for everyone.
hungoveratworkguy
Just trying to help is all
slinkiisu
The right: "I'm going to kill you and your entire family" the left: "ugh, would you just fuck off already" you: "SO MUCH HATE FROM THE LEFT"
hungoveratworkguy
I commented on your comment by mistake. Apologies about that.
ShoopDeDoop
No, it's more like this - The right: "If you don't agree, kill yourself". The left: "If you don't agree with me, kill yourself." You: "SO MUCH HATE FROM THE RIGHT". I don't agree with hate, regardless of who it's coming from. Take notes.
slinkiisu
No it absolutely is not. 100% of hate from the right is, and always has been, "I will kill you with my bare hands because I'm a big strong patriot and killing things is what gives me joy". There were no left-wing lynchings, the number of left-wing attacks are vastly outperformed by right-wing attacks. Every time there's a right-wing mass murderer, it's treated like a freak accident. Any time there's a left-wing mass murder, it's treated like they were a foaming psychopath.
cheeriossuckbecause7
Except this isn't true, and you know it isn't.
ShoopDeDoop
It's a million percent true. If leftists had their way, we'd all be taxed into poverty, and therefore, we'd all be equally poor. It's a leftist dream.
SomeDetroitGuy
"The leftist desire to tax the super rich and give the money to the poor and middle class is going to make everyone poor" is the stupidest thing you've said and you routinely say really really really stupid shit.
ShoopDeDoop
Well it's a good thing I never said that then.
foreverinchains
What a weird way to announce that you have no idea what the policies of the left actually are, bud.
ShoopDeDoop
Same to you, bud.
foreverinchains
"No u"
C'mon, kiddo.
Be better.
Allrighty
Did you ever stop to ask yourself if that actually makes sense for anyone to want? You clearly don't view leftists as real people, but shallow stereotypes.
ShoopDeDoop
I have asked that, and that's why it amazes me that people actually want that.
Allrighty
Literally everyone here is telling you otherwise, yet you stubbornly maintain that you're correct despite the facts. So what did "asking" yourself actually involve in this case? Clearly it spurred no actual investigation of your assumptions or biases. That's not introspection, that's navelgazing.
cheeriossuckbecause7
No. Allowing unrestricted gain is the reason we have billionaires, their bootlivkers, and people working fulltimr while also needing welfare to survive. You're trying to mischaracterize social welfare as forced labor. It isn't. All you're spouting is regressive fantasies, amd you know they're lies - but they're the lies you WANT to believe.
ShoopDeDoop
No, I'm not mischaracterizing it at all. People can barely survive on what they make right now. If leftists had their way, we'd have 70-80% of our income taxed, meaning the people who are struggling right now, would be completely destroyed. It's like they'd rather sink the entire ship to take out a few people.
foreverinchains
Sweetie, the left wants you and people like you to pay LESS in taxes.
We want the rich to pay more in taxes.
You are not in the class of people we want taxed more, and you never will be.
You just keep demonstrating that you don't actually understand the topics you're arguing about. You're just repeating obviously false right-wing talking points with absolutely nothing to back up your claims.
cheeriossuckbecause7
Yes, you are. The minimum wage hasn't been raised in over a decade. Prices have gone up, bills have gone up, but the pay hasn't. At the same time,the wealthy are wealthier. Where's that money going? Out of the pockets of people. This is all happening now, under the system you're trying to defend by implication. Leftists, not democrats, want the wealthy to pay more. This is where you lie.
BeingABotIsRad
This is true in the same way that "a million percent true" is. It's detached from reality.
TheDefective
"From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs" -Leftist
Rightoid (while holding a whip because he can't win without it):
ThatRaccoonGuy
"If every single slave just unanimously rebelled at once then the problem would just be solved. Clearly they're too lazy."
TheDefective
Fun fact, lincoln signed the emancipation proclamation "to preserve the union" because all the major slave plantations were in open rebellion.
ThatRaccoonGuy
Just repackaging the rhetoric that gets thrown around here a lot. Nice fun fact tho.
TheDefective
This ain't my first right wing rhetoric rodeo.