Humble Bundle was recently required by IGN, whom then use Humble Bundle to collect, package and sell data on people who only want to buy cheap games and/or support charity.

Nov 14, 2017 1:25 PM

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Just incase people needed a break from the EA sh!tshow; I humbly give you: The IGN Sh!tshow Bundle.

IGN acquires Humble Bundle; https://techcrunch.com/2017/10/13/ign-acquires-pay-what-you-want-game-shop-humble-bundle/

Humble Bundle "Privacy" Page; https://www.humblebundle.com/privacy

 Just to catch everyone up here;

1) IGN acquired Humble bundle.
2) IGN drastically changes the disclaimer / ToA associated with the use of the website.
3) IGN makes a profit collecting, packaging and selling user data.

Ok, notes;

1) Humble bundle was (at least to me) considered one of the few sites with good integrity and intention, then bought by IGN who (to most of you) doesn't have those qualities included in their base vocabulary.

2) The overall phrasing and choice of words in the new "agreement" / disclaimer they push on the website indicate the immediate commercialization of data harvested from you. For instance, they specifically refer to user information as an 'asset' meaning it is regarded to have (commercial) value.

3) the "agreement" was last updated 14 September, not very coincidentally a month prior to publication of the acquisition, this means that all of the personal information/user data that humble bundle had in store is now the property of IGN.

3.5) Since most business acquisitions don't happen in a week or two, this was most likely a deliberate move by IGN to make a loophole bulk acquisition of personal user information.

 4) I am not a lawyer, but technically speaking, the data was collected legally by humble, whom most likely didn't have any nefarious purpose to it, as it is quite normal and necessary for base web operation, but then "bought" by IGN, which would mean they can do pretty much whatever they want with your personal data now.

5) for those who don't know, user data is actually very valuable. I work in a sector where user data is perhaps one of the most traded assets. The more data associated with an entry, the more price "regenerators" can earn. Mostly this data is bought by "Affiliates" or Companies directly, whom, well, I have yet to see an ethical use of it.

6) 100% IGN bought Humble Bundle to make more money, not because they had any ethical or philanthropistic intentions about the site's original purpose.

TL: DR; IGN buys humble, then uses it to harvest, package and sell user data. What fun.

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they just removed % sliders and default to charity with no way to change or view is 5%

5 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Guess what: It's Humble that sold your data to IGN. Don't think for a second they didn't know that was a core part of their value

8 years ago | Likes 39 Dislikes 5

Oh no they're selling your data just like 90% of all other websites. By the way of course they brought it to make money, they're a business.

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Oh god damn it! I liked humble bundle!

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Goddammit ign. I really liked Humble Bundle

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Required? Do you mean acquired?

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

So who's starting a new version of humble bundle?

8 years ago | Likes 12 Dislikes 2

The same day IGN acquired Humble Bundle, I cancelled my monthly bundle. I knew it would be a shitshow with IGN.

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

A long time ago in a galaxy far away IGN was a legit video game site. A long time ago. It's a shame I will never humble bundle again.

8 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 2

Prepare to try, Still fun, google it

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

IGN wanted a bundle for themselves. And wanted to appear humble doing it!

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

The owners of Humble Bundle cashed out and it was only possible by selling user data. So why hate IGN? Why not hate Humble Bundle too?

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

At least the finished developing their game before cashing in, even though it's kind of a mess.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I knew giving to charity was going to bite me in the ass

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

"Humble Bundle was recently required by IGN, whom then use Humble Bundle to collect, package and sell dat-" what kind of sentence is this?>

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

>They were required by ign to do what? do you mean acquired?

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

None of those "whom"s are warranted

8 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 1

Well, that's funny because starting in September, I started seeing a massive upswing in the amount of junk mail I get, now ~100 per day

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

Ages ago I got my cheat codes from SecretsOfTheSegaSages.com. they were bought out by ign. Life has never been the same.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

This sucks :(

8 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 1

Time to double down. Red cross recently admitted to having 6 mil in ebola relief "disappear", who humble is raising funds for right now.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

*Acquired

8 years ago | Likes 18 Dislikes 2

Also, it's "who," not "whom."

8 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

This industry is burning to the fucking ground right in front of our eyes

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

Just the old, deadwood... Hopefully.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

It continues to grow significantly so...no.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Tbf, if you use the Wayback Machine you can see that those same Terms of Services has been there at least from the beginning of the year

8 years ago | Likes 108 Dislikes 2

And Humble HAS to promote 3rd party products, that's what to do. They don't have any of their own.

8 years ago | Likes 22 Dislikes 0

This needs more upvotes, they have been like that since 2016

8 years ago | Likes 25 Dislikes 1

The terms were added when discussions begin with IGN about acquisition, there are some good articles about it.

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 4

Where can I find those articles? And how are the terms different from lets say steam?

8 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

Bullshit, the Humble ToS were the same back in 2016: https://web.archive.org/web/20161229042932/https://www.humblebundle.com/privacy

8 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 1

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8 years ago (deleted May 9, 2020 10:56 PM) | Likes 0 Dislikes 0

Source of the claim? Additionally, provide evidence that it also happened in this case.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

And if you want to play the reputation game, Imgur has repeatedly spread completely unfounded bullshit in the past for Internet points.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Oh I'm gonna love GDPR coming into effect and shaking up these companies.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Well, they already have an opt-out function for european residents, which I just submitted a request for. So there's that.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Interesting, checked it out. I work in the IT Security field in Europe, I can tell you right now that they are not in compliance with GDPR

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Im really interested in seeing what they come up with. And how the private enterprises respond.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

And now humble bundle dies in a corner as the price of all bundles goes up to include a profit margin

8 years ago | Likes 31 Dislikes 1

2/2 just donate all the money to charity instead of ign.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Lmao, from what? Them selling our data? Like google and a million other things do? Because it doesn't really effect me from buying it. 1/2

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

https://web.archive.org/web/20170315062942/https://www.humblebundle.com/privacy

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Continued: Privacy policy via October 2016 shows every highlighted statement verbatim, post is misleading.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Continued 2: Service Providers literally means parties involved in supplying the service, it doesn't mean ISPs.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Continued 3: Advertising via third parties is potentially bad, but isn't new to the terms which mean humble has been open to doing so.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Continued 4: To take these terms of service as ominous only forwards Humble's business practices of last year as equally ominous.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

This just in: publicly held companies are shitty money vampires that don't give a fuck about consumers.

8 years ago | Likes 122 Dislikes 11

how so?

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

And privately held ones are even worse

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

8 years ago | Likes 24 Dislikes 1

No one cares about anybody. That's how life works.

8 years ago | Likes 12 Dislikes 20

You don't care about anyone? Nobody cares about you or has ever cared about you? You don't know how anyone who cares about anyone?

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Monkey sphere, you're only able to care about 150 people. That is it.

8 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

I don't think that's true, and I don't want to think that's true.

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 2

Look up monkey spheres.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 2

Thats how capitalism works..

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Yes the capitalist Russian gulags and forced labor camps of capitalist North Korea.

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Well shit.

8 years ago | Likes 240 Dislikes 3

That phrase has summed up most of this year

8 years ago | Likes 27 Dislikes 0

Whole decade!

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

And last

8 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

Wow. Thanks for the info... What a (shitty) time to be alive

8 years ago | Likes 80 Dislikes 8

dont worry GDPR is coming.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

how is user data trading making your era a shitty time to be alive?

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Not really, unless you want to think the worst of people, they've widely said that they'll leave the mngment of Bundle that same.

8 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 2

IGN is just out here hustling and Humble Bundle now has the backing of a much bigger company.

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

I mean, we have technology that borders on magic, cures for the worst diseases in human history, are working on martian colonies, 1/2

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Have fairly sophisticated cybernetics for the disabled, are restoring the environment and have the highest global standard of living ever.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

IGN didn't change those ToS etc, using the Wayback Machine you can see that they have been the same at least from November last year.

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

Damn. That means Humble Bundle also were suckers -.- Okay, partially my fault for not reading this fucking nonsense documents...

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

It's not like it does look different on steam or anywhere else!

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I mean, I'm not dying of dehydration by diarrhea, so it can't be that bad.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

What?

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

In olden times people would literally die ny diarrhea.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

So time to never buy another humble bundle. : (

8 years ago | Likes 285 Dislikes 6

the last two months kinda sucked anyway .

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

If you've made an account (or just a purchase) there, it's too late.

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

That’s ok. I‘ve got games till 2087

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Just requested that my account be deleted.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

You know that doesn't necessarily delete your data right?

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Still gonna buy it.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

...Do you use Google in ANY way? Cause all that does is mine your data off EVERYTHING, everywhere. Facebook, too. Many companies own it now

8 years ago | Likes 16 Dislikes 0

Of course they do, but it's different. When the company offers a service for free, your data is what keeps them running.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

The internett is for ads now.

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Of course they do, but it's different. When the company offers a service for free, your data is what keeps them running.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

But when the company is selling something for real money, it's much less acceptable to double-dip.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Every time I've tried to point that out on here, people have freaked out and denied it being true. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

You're going to skip out on a sale and buy full price from some other company that markets our data *Anyway*

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

To protect data that is almost certainly already out there from any one of hundreds of other services.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Why tho? (this may get downvoted to hell) but why are people bitching? This is some idiotic shit to be whining over. Money still goes to 1/?

8 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 3

Have you noticed the lack of any decent bundles or sales on HB lately? They used to constantly have bundles for big titles, now they don't.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Could just be that they were hurting for money and made themselves available for a buyout. Things aren't free unfortunately.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

To be honest, I want to ask the same question. If my "data is traded", how does that affect me?

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

I mean, technically, when someone asks you to answer a questionnaire for a survey, you give away your personal information, and lose what?

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Well, let's say a questionnaire asked you your name, country, interests and credit card information.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

....And if I used paypal?

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

And that's a fair question to ask, and one that should be asked. Personally I gave my stance but that's a fair question and a very valid one

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Charity/developers(and until that changes where it's solely to IGN), the risk of any personal data being abused since everything is 2/?

8 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 1

abused is a big word

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

online now and fucking anything can be hacked, no place/data is safe. Charities are still being supported and until prices and shit 3/?

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 2

are stupidly overpriced or just terrible bundles(which some are or not as interesting to me), who cares? When all of the money stops 4/?

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

going to charity then yeah be all righteous and mad about it, cause I will be too. Or it gets to the point where it's less than 25% 5/?

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

Too late. They already have the data from your previous purchases.

8 years ago | Likes 46 Dislikes 0

But the data from previous purchases don't have this disclaimer, so how is it valid?

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

just like the OP, I'm not a lawyer, but to me the statement about the ToS being able to change at any time allows this but I hope I'm wrong.

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

But then you will have to agree to the new ToS for it to take effect. At least to my understanding.. Otherwise ToS means literally nothing..

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

TOS for webpages tend to simply say that they have the right to change the TOS at will without notification and you agree to the changes by

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Make the data worthless. There are some extensions that will royally fuck up your search history / browsing data out there

8 years ago | Likes 16 Dislikes 1

.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I don't need an extension to do that. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Which?

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

DO Tell

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Which will do fuck all because they also analyze time spent on sites.

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Any specific for FF? Gonna still use it, just have 50% for devs and 50% for charity.

8 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 0

I've always done 45 dev 45 charity 10 humble personally. Guess those 10% will just go back to devs and charity

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

uBlock Origin, Disconnect, are what I'm using. There may be more robust plugins out there.

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

That being said, I fucked myself over by not using my spam-mail for Humble, and actually having an account. So, I doubt it matters.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

time to turn the "For developers/For charity option to 100%)

8 years ago | Likes 173 Dislikes 0

Your information is worth a few bucks to advertisers so IGN gets plenty of money anyway.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

time to remove that slider

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Even that could make IGN money, they can use your charity donations as a tax deductibles for their own profits and still indirectly profit.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I always just turned charity to 100% anyways.

8 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

i did 40/40/20 charity devs humble bundle.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I just do full charity because it makes me feel better about wasting more money on games I probably won't play.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

8 years ago | Likes 12 Dislikes 0

Assuming IGN won't just take a cut anyway

8 years ago | Likes 91 Dislikes 2

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think they'd get the accompanying tax write-off.

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Hopefully they don't because if they do that is super illegal

8 years ago | Likes 37 Dislikes 1

since when has that stopped anyone lol

8 years ago | Likes 37 Dislikes 3

True, but they could easily enforce a minimum cut to themselves (and inform the customer)

8 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0