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Should I should do "gun basics for beginner hobbyists" since that's the only rights we have. I don't know if i can talk about it with the limits on 1A.
Jun 24, 2022 10:01 PM
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Should I should do "gun basics for beginner hobbyists" since that's the only rights we have. I don't know if i can talk about it with the limits on 1A.
DrDadJokes
Strong Glue and bricks
digasisv
I would say a wire mesh bag. Put phone in said bag.
Probablyimaginary
Get a burner or factory reset an old phone. Sign up for Google voice, or similar.
Bonesy84
Don’t buy stem caps and glue the right size ball bearing inside, because if you do that and put a small hole in it, air will escape the tire
djmaskell
Cell phone: TURN ON PASSCODE and turn off face id and fingerprint. Your password is protected by 5th amendment, your face/fingerprint is NOT
Nalianna
Take an AR15. Make them work for it.
reginageorge1
Gilead
Sm9yCg
Don't forget the Umbrellas and the laser pointers.
DeanMachine16
What? No swing chains, Molotov cocktails, frozen water bottles, or cement milkshakes?
Rookie.
mymidlifecrisiswasat23
FUCK THAT SHIT
SilverNicktail
Fill me in - why not contacts? Pepper spray?
MadCatIV
And tear gas
mmartin762
just link r/socialistRA and be done with it
idonthaveauser
What's with the contact lenses?
Nameless915
If you get OC sprayed or Tear Gassed the contacts generate more irritation
ballsoutflyer
Don't bring your phone period. Even with airplane mode and data off, GPS is still going. Get a burner phone.
nicky512
Yeah, probably no phones with any useful info on it. But if you do there are apps that send live videos to servers so they can’t be deleted.
NZSheeps
I wonder whether a burner phone would be better
voidmain
Put the phone number of your lawyer in it (or a lawyer that you can call in case things go bad)
NZSheeps
Can I just get snacks and stay at home?
brownribbon
I guess, if you don’t care about civil rights for half the country.
Vall707
airplane mode disable data automatically as far as I know.
WhatTheHellIsGoingOnBob
Still periodically fires up for location services. Turn that off as well.
godzilladc
Most data, not all.
TheFunionKnight
What about this huge box of hornets that desperately need returning home to Thomas
stonedlikeicheckedoutmedusa
Favorite & don’t forget
voidmain
You probably shouldn’t forget it though.. those will be useful for the next weeks
SociallyAwkwardCanadianMoose
Uh, he said "don't forget" about this post...
voidmain
Au shit haha, I’m so used of the favourite and forget that my brain converted automatically XD
Fuckweasel
MILK is much more effective for treating (only some types, all?) tear/CS gas.
CmpltBlsht
Gun Safety is an important topic.
kickmyballsrealhard
uBooLian
Hey, I think he winked at me! The flirt!
ruferto
that cheeky bastard, i like him
OuroborosX
As we lose more and more rights, I wonder how this will evolve. "How to make a molitov cocktail and how many will you need?"
Dukeboysz
So something that always bothered me, if you are worried about OC spray/gas, why not just use a cheap $15 pair of swim goggles?
HoneyBunchesOfStoats
personally I find it hard to find goggles that fit comfortably over glasses
RenegadeSci
They fog bad.
Dukeboysz
Small amount of dish soap inside always did the trick for me. Or blast the inside with a hair dryer for 30 seconds before wearing.
RenegadeSci
Do what works for you.
xXxSTEVOxXx
"Signs America isnt even nominally democratic and probably never was Starter Pack."
agonarch
It always called itself a republic - some of the earliest republics had a literal Dictator position in government.
xXxSTEVOxXx
Im sure 100% of americans know the difference between Democracy tm r c and a federal republic
Quixus
Yeah, but the Roman dictatorship was well regulated.
onlyawfulnamesleft
And that turned out so well for their democracy.
Quixus
Which time?
tinytyrant
RenegadeSci
GOP sypporting a national abortion ban, no exception even for the life, that is opposed by 92%. They plan to become dictators.
TastesKindaGamey
Overturning Roe removed federal jurisdiction on abortion, making a national ban impossible as the court ruled it is a state, not fed issue.
RatElemental
It's funny that you think that will stop them.
UserSubHunterOfIndeterminateGender
Go and join a leftist gun club. Learn how to operate, store, and responsibly use a firearm. There's a cold wind blowing. Be prepared.
eightyearplan
https://roarmag.org/magazine/antifascism-building-communi">ities/">https://roarmag.org/magazine/antifascism-building-communities/ , https://www.dsausa.org/working-groups/anti-fascist-working-group/
uBooLian
That's cute. I can just hear the NRA nodding along "yes, we support your right... to buy more guns!"
UserSubHunterOfIndeterminateGender
People want me dead for existing. I will not be a victim. I have the right to survive, by violence if need be. And it looks like I might.
uBooLian
Ok ok, who you gonna shoot? Because change happens at the ballot, not the gun range, gun store and not at a mass shooting.
astrangehop
So you want a state where only the fascists have guns and beleaguered oppressed groups never do?
Doompug
If the thugs beat up your activists and kill your orators there will be no votes at the ballots. Being defenceless is no virtue.
UserSubHunterOfIndeterminateGender
If that were true, we'd have working gun laws, universal healthcare, universal pre-k, and free/reduced college tuition. Those all have....
UserSubHunterOfIndeterminateGender
Overwhelming public support. That's not even getting on to increasing the federal minimum wage, police reform, structural inequality and....
ralphie84
And remember, if detained/arrested, shut the fuck up
daanw8210
Better Call Saul! Or another lawyer.
INeverWaitForIt
Never speak to cops without a lawyer present. Even if on the side of the street. Cops give no shits about your rights.
Nettesheim
Also, better memorize your rights because you can't sue if they don't tell you.
Chickenmakesmetired
FIRST declare that you are invoking your right to a lawyer and then invoking your right not to speak. You MUST state these or you can just
Chickenmakesmetired
Be deemed as uncooperative or obstructing. The police can and will play dumb. You cannot say I want a lawyer as they can twist it to be a
Chickenmakesmetired
Mere statement and not an invocation of right
RMWX
https://youtu.be/sgWHrkDX35o
RMWX
It is Friday after all.
ralphie84
Phoelixx
Serious question - if we don’t want to bring identifying phone, why bring ID?
djmaskell
It's not about identification. You don't want the government searching your phone and all the accounts connected to it.
purelypenguin
You can be required to identify yourself. As for phone - there's just so much on them that can (and will) be twisted against you.
NicolasKevinMac
Hiibel v. Nevada held that you can be required to SAY your name; but you are NOT required to carry a driver's license when not driving, etc.
NicolasKevinMac
Excellent call-out. Answer is, you don't: do NOT bring ID with you. That said, the additional issue with the phone is you can be tracked.
djmaskell
Failing to provide identification, or providing false info, can result in arrest and much greater complications. Bring ID.
NicolasKevinMac
Having it and refusing to show it is a grey area, and a bad idea. But the courts have definitively agreed that you don't have to carry ID.
NicolasKevinMac
See Kolender v. Lawson, Hiibel v. Nevada, etc. The police stop people all the time who don't have any ID; it's not actionable, period.
NicolasKevinMac
You're correct that LYING's illegal (saying a false name, saying you don't have ID if you do) as is refusing to give your name (some states)
NicolasKevinMac
Even with data and apps turned off -- in some cases, even in airplane mode or phone turned off -- you can be physically tracked.
NicolasKevinMac
Tracking phone while off: https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2022/05/iphone-malware-that-operates-even-when-the-phone-is-turned-off.html
NicolasKevinMac
More bluetooth-based tracking techniques: https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2022/06/tracking-people-via-bluetooth-on-their-phones.html
MysticMoe
If possible, forgo your standard smartphone, bring a dumb burner phone with only a few important numbers.
zagibu
Meshtastic lora messengers would be even better for communicating inside the protest.
zagibu
For example WiPhones with LoRa daughterboards cost $120 and work right out of the box.
zagibu
Or remove the sim card from your phone and use a Lilygo Lora for example.
peruvianfightingmidgets
Even if the phone is turned off the GPS is still active. Airplane mode wont do shit
uBooLian
Data safety is a growing concern, but it's not growing fast enough to counter the fascists in the police.
Sooner70
If by "important numbers" you mean your lawer's number, local hospital, etc. Do NOT have numbers that are "identifiable".
squishybaker
Even better 2 way radios, then there's no carrier logs of what number called who. just no police scanners as much help as they'd be.
astrangehop
Are scanners illegal?
squishybaker
questionable legality on state/country, it's something the bastards would use against you, so just to be safe.
Kuiper
As a forensic investigator, this. Phones will still hold all the data of you being there, what other phones were nearby, possibly even trans
wurth
What if we turn the phone off before arriving?
Jshephe6
So phones still track your location even when off and “location services” turned off. Leave the phone at home.
Kuiper
Still not a great idea, because if for some reason the cops wanted to investigate what's on your phone, they just gotta plug it into a compu
Kuiper
Transcripts of what was said. This data doesn't have to be pulled directly from the phone, it can be pulled from icloud, or Google services
Bleedingyamato
Since when do phones record everything around them? And how would they have a record of nearby phones? Never heard of stuff like that.
Hammertulski
https://developer.apple.com/documentation/exposurenotification
Hammertulski
This literally runs on deployed-in-field technology to find mobile devices in the area and handshake with them. If you don’t think this(1/2)
TastesKindaGamey
A plot of cell phone location data points can create a map of the individuals in a crowd.
TastesKindaGamey
Phones send signals to the nearest cell tower periodically to test signal strength & adjust accordingly to provide consistent cell coverage.
Bleedingyamato
Yes but not to and from other phones so far as I know.
ruferto
if you have bluetooth, nfc, or location enabled it's possible
nicelyvillainous
Metadata. Phone records show which cell phone tower your phone is connected to in case you get a call. In cities, that narrows you to the
nicelyvillainous
Block you are on, and they can also request in the other direction, all cell phones connected to x phone tower between 11:02 and 11:05
Kuiper
As a backup image of the phone.
Grimmy32
Let's be real. Most people will post about it on social media, because that's how many people are.
Kuiper
Don't get me wrong, there are tools for that too. As well as tools for telegram, whatsapp, etc. Those require physical access to the device
ath1337e
Does airplane mode not prevent this? I thought airplane mode eliminated all signal connections (GPS, data, phone, bluetooth, wifi, etc.)
Sooner70
It prevents transmission, but it can still receive (GPS) and record whatever data it likes.
Kuiper
Airplane mode doesn't do shit. Hell when retrieving devices the only purpose for airplane mode is so the device doesn't go ape shit looking
Fuckweasel
Even if it did, the phone is still tracking/logging that data. Should unsavory types get the device, they get the data. Don't rely on it.