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skidabernackle
Both need better haircuts.
Welliguessillgogetpants
Trump has a degree in bullshit
Talann1
Now do Obama and Bush and Clinton
sizlon
Why does this get down voted ... haha great point but wrong opinion imgur banishes you to the bad replies.
dennydorko
That's cuz in Murica we judge our presidential candidates by how well they "connect with people" and not on how competent they.
Smudge13
How well they connect their hands with the pussy of the people*
JustPuffins
He really doesn't get enough shit for being a failed casino owner. It's literally a business where people bring you their money.
MyExistence
He filed after the 2008 recession. *Every* casino suffered. Priorities change when millions lose their jobs and the economy tanks.
carlalalaone
I'm in Africa right now and I have to keep explaining the electoral college and that the majority of us DID NOT vote for him
Mayonnaiseisainstrument
Doesn't matter, the system is too fucked up
TheJudgeofTheInternet
Angela Merkel is still pretty far right with social policy, that's why Gay Marriage isn't allowed in Germany yet.
This has more to do with her religious belief I think.
flakeOfDoom
That'd be the cause of her being "pretty far right with social policy", though, not a different explanation, no?
eindude
Im actually just glad he doesent drink and get drunk. All of a sudden bombs everywhere. Probably.. i dont know. I drink
*i am drunk
marcusvengeance
Trump is retarded.
ThousandCopyCats
And why's that?
PsychRealms
Even a full blown idiot could see that Trump is a retard
How's Trump retarded?
DaedaIus
Because CNN told him so, obviously.
juuri
german here: she fucks up our country with her politics as well. grew up in east germany (the socialistic part) and never lost the attitude
Anabolexander
German here; Go fuck yourself. She's doing fine and so is Germany.
Don't worry friend, we'll find a way for you to defect to the free nations soon.
Also: not remotely on topic -.-
Obviously a lot of germans thing otherwise. At least I dont insult people, only her way of doing politics...
Wangwat
FAKE NEWS!!!!!
GlennTheWisp
There's a conspiracy going around saying he has a brain
How do you make several billions of dollars without a brain
oVexlz
How do you mispell tap?
Ana5ta51a
Yes, but nobody misspells better than him.
supersomatic
If you're swayed by cherry picking, you're the problem in the world.
eskamobob1
at least part of it. I think the over all problem is we dont honestly care enough about most shit
ButtersakaProfChoas
I can tell you that I personally don't five a shit about anything. As long as I have a roof over my head and steady paycheck, I'm happy.
The steady paycheck is for booze and weed btw, thought that was important.
GoNavy09
See, Trump is not a failed businessman though. He was very successful. And if we diminish that we will forget how he thinks (1).
Understanding that he views the US like a company will help predict the choices he will make. (2/2)
Habreon
Depends on how you define success in business. Most of his companies were driven into the ground, while he made out rich
WarDragon1984
Yes, because a guy who drives companies into the ground to enrich himself, is exactly the President we want running the USA like a company.
jackpkmn
Wanting to understand something is not the same thing as endorsing it.
SomeCrazyNerd
He was born rich. He had a very unfair advatnage. His real estate company is his dad's
pandro
He declared bankruptcy in the 1980s and wrote a book about his success. People who watched his shenanigans then think he has no character.
He has over 530 businesses and declared bankruptcy on 6 of them, during a time where the overall casino industry struggled. 99% success rate
SamCookeisGod
I still want to know how my damn president gets his news from other places than the GODDAMN DEPARTMENTS THEMSELVES! How?! HOW?!
AngryGroundhog
He's trying to govern from his alternate reality; the facts provided by government agencies all contradict his worldviews. Hence, Fox News.
FarFromBitten
Probably bannon only gives him permission to watch Fox
RobJenkins
I think he's found out that a lot of the job is complicated, hard and boring. He didn't get to meet the aliens & there is no death ray
cleverbeans
Also, apparently being president doesn't make him supreme ruler and he still has to comply with the law. That's got to bother him.
WhatzitTooya
He likes the ones on fox news better.
dootdootbop
I think that he's trying to make people suspicious of our intelligence agencies. In case any other shit leaks about him.
phantasmaphilia
I feel like ppl r scared to tell him the truth [or tell him he's wrong], in fear of losing their jobs. scary fucking world rn.
Doesn't help that he'll dominantly will only hire other racists, xenophobes & climate change deniers to support him.
thelonepig
Remember how he said he wasn't attending the daily security briefings because he's smart and doesn't need to go every day like Obama did?
DavidBrooker
>Has access to the most sophisticated information system on the planet >Ignores it and watches crank talk-radio hosts instead
MrSebi
Because he's a cantankerous 70 year old, and won't change his viewing habits.
FlyingTigerRose
Breitbart News, The National Enquirer... I wish I was kidding. I heard on NPR where he'll see some stupid ass "article" and within 10 (1/2)
minutes there he is tweeting it. No checking, no other source, just something he saw or read in one place, and said, "Ooooohh!".
So he stuck to what he finds easy to digest and understand. It's just a shame that its mostly bullshit
MrAwesomesauce101
He doesn't really listen to Cabinet. They are kind of left out of important decisions. Instead of informing and influencing, they're told.
DVSBSTrD
Because Hillary is a criminal tool of the evil corporations. And emails. And something my grandpa sent me from Facebook.
27yoUGLYvirgin
Well she is. Why do people always see one as good and one as bad. Clinton is corporate scum just like trump is.SheJustIsOnTheReceivingEnd
TheFermiSolution
The more days that pass in which I am disappointed in this presidency, the more I want to throttle people like you.
He's the one who admittedly bribes the politicians, she is the one who we know as a fact takes the moneys. And he now does both of course.
Asciiman
Gonna keep beating that horse eh? Eventually it will be relevant again, after all, things are always comming back in style.
Or you could, I dunno, judge her by her actions in and out of office instead of just by who her campaign contributors are.
Like the her actions where she tells wallstreet everything they want to hear in secret meetings, or the one where she changes laws for the
itsatoughshittydingo
So you agree the New York Times is not a valid new source?
ZZhillTopper
My problem is how does he get news from bogus sites and have the audacity to call real journalism 'Fake News'.
5po0ky
He's not very intelligent
He can be clever in the way a seedy used car salesmen often are, he knows he audience and can make a sale. But yes most of the time I think
he is a moron
eroso
FYI: Trump doesn't read. US intel doesn't provide their information in audio nor in video form. It's easier for him to just watch some TV.
SpiffyMouse
And what little he can read or write is apparently only limited to 140 characters. Kinda like a computer with 32mb of RAM: useless.
RandomAbscessMemories
So the CIA just needs to tweet intel at him?
That or just send them to Fox News
It is a shame how much truth is actually in these statements
2bachata
I'm confident there are many white house staffers that would volunteer to read the briefings to him.
And ye, Trump is well known that he doesn't use email either. At all. I wonder if he uses computers at all
He doesnt read. Writing is a-ok, as long as the text is not longer than 140 chars...
Funnyt thing: he doesn't even write his own tweets. Trump has said that he dictates all tweets to his staffers
donorkort
"And fit in a 'Sad!' at the end. That'll show them."
RoseFaery
Ugh, some body has to translate his unintelligible screeching into >140, & then read him the replies & get screamed at for his 'rebuttal'
GeorgeHWBushsGhost
Are you talking about the sureveillance?
HighlySexualLobster
To be fair he got his information about the wiretap from the intelligence community, it just happened to be the Russian SVR.
He got it from US intelligence, as a matter of fact some agencies said there was no Trump connection to Russia before we found out about ->
<- about the FISC warrants taken out.
This is about the server? That came out in late october right?
ladyface
There were no FISC warrants taken out. No wiretapping occurred. Read up!
anonymouscoward69
Wait, what? How do you fail as a casino owner? That's like failing at selling beer to alcoholics outside an AA meeting.
It was during a time where the overall casino industry struggled. He declared bankruptcy on it right after the 2008 recession.
LosPer
Not when there's competition, cash flows, and marketing skills involved...
Sionas
By the way Merkel might be smart but she's not a good prime minister.
yazwho
Happy to swap you for May...
flaccidhope
No Western leader could approach her current approval rating (60%), especially after 13 years in office (3 terms and a potential 4th).
Barkinsons
Based on the time she's in power and her overall approval, she's certainly above average. A calm worker often surpasses a loud, popular one
FirstDagger
Chancellor not Prime Minister.
Equivalent title.
Nikoelchico
Lol please stop. I don't mean to insult; just a friendly pointer...people will be less likely to buy into any opinion you may have when you
state that she is germany's prime minister...because she isn't. Also, i disagree with your point that she is a bad leader, Chancellor
The chancelor of Germany is equivalent to prime minister in other countries. I think it's fine.
killingjoke8181
I'm so embarrassed to be an American.
BOSSMOPS
Shhh there there... It's not your fault... You aren't the embarrassment. As long as you didn't vote for him :D
Snakesidon
Feel free to leave :D
Erockerockerock
Why?
Why wouldn't they be? Just the embarrassment of their healthcare system should be sufficient but Trump's racism and sexism are shameful too.
Why do you think.
Because America is one of the few nations at the forefront of a political movement that hasn't caught on culturally yet.
jesusfuckingchristwhatnameisnttaken4
I assume because Trump is an international laughing-stock, man-child, petulant moron who get's his news, not from agencies, but from Fox.
AbeoLogos
I would be ecstatic if Fox was Trump's sole source of news. Sadly, his sources are much more varied, and of a more questionable calibre.
ApartforHaShem
One ran their nation into chaos, debt, and increased terror activity while the other has barely in office 3 months.
TheBritfag
I honestly don't understand why people praise Merkel. She is a terrible leader, and to say she's the leader of the free world is wrong.
If she is a terrible leader, Trump is Literally Hitler.
"everyone I don't like is Hitler!" - The childs guide to politics.
or Kim Jong Un or someone else of this kind, choose one
Chaos? Germany? *looks around*
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0014292116302252
baldbear
That´s a plain lie. Germany is not chaotic - not more then normal- Our debts are DECREASING, and terror grows on its own. No help needed.
Shadehawk
so your argument is "trump is better because he hasnt had time to be shitter!"?
Not sure I made the comment: two turds and both stink.
Munchman347
Merkel has been in office longer than three months...
In 2016, Germany recorded a $25.5 billion surplus. Germany hasn't needed to borrow money for many years. The US? $441 billion...in deficit.
You're a fucking moron if you are trying to blame our debt, caused by Obama, on Trump. Fixing the debt was a major part of his campaign.
First of all, calm down and read the replies below that comment. Secondly, learn the difference between debt and budget deficit.
Not an argument. Trump proposed to fix our budget, which he is now clearly doing.
No, none of this is my argument. My point is that every developed country is in deficit, Germany has a friggin surplus. Merkel is doing good
MemesNDreams16
Not to play the devil's advocate but the deficit has been going on longer than Trump has been in office.
I know, my point was that the all of the developed world has huge budget deficits. For Germany to have a surplus instead is amazing.
That will soon grind to a halt once Germany has gather revenue to economically integrate refugees into the population.
I'm happy to pay a pile of money up-front to solve one of the large issues that's plaguing the country and will only get worse with time!
That figure is from last year, mate, and includes preps for refugees. And it's projected to grow to record highs this year as well.
OddlyLongUserName
She's also had numerous terrorist attacks while in office and her pro emigration ideas aren't exactly loved by native Germans
I call BS. Give some proof to a german, please.
NoAsBigAsMediumJockButBiggerThanWeeJockJock
As a German: Her pro emigration is what made me at least respect her a bit.
I don't keep up with the news. What exactly did she fail at that makes her responsible for terrorist attacks? or is she committing them.
Zahnradfee
Her choice to help people in need is the only thing she's ever done well. But afterwards everything turned back to hostility and disregard >
against refugees. And the voluntaty helpers are left alone. State is not doing its job.
Would you like video of the anti-migrant protests or new reports about Ansbach?
That´s some, not the majority. And Ansbach was last juli. Terror exists because our way of living is hated, it needs no other reason.
No one said majority. Mormons hate a lot of your way of living as well, yet they don't seem to be attacking you.
duboka
Are two "numerous"? From where do you get your news from? And for me as German, this are the only good actions she did as chancellor...
19 December 2016, Berlin. 24 July 2016 Ansbach. 19 July 2016 Wurzburg. 26 February 2016 Hanover. This is using a pretty strict definition.
Sorry, you are right. There were more than 2. 3 are correct, but I don't know if it counts as numerous. The one in Hannover was no refugee..
I could have kept going, but 140 character limit
Trump would kill for her approval ratings.
iliketotravelandstuff
Maybe not by AFD assholes. Luckily, thats still a minority.
mathematicalmole
Is it just me or has Merkel been in power for like 15 years? Whatever the real length, seems kinda long to me in a democracy.
JamJarre
Term limits are such an American concept
It exists in France and other European countries though.
Germans like stability. She's delivered solid economic growth for Germany so they've felt no need to change. She's still at 60% approval.
Mithi
12 years, since 2005. Helmut Kohl was 16 years in office.
She was elected and 3x re-elected in one the most democratic countries in the world. Because the majority thinks she is doing some good.
I was under the impression merkel isnt hugely liked, just her opponents are always complete shit.
she has some hard times now, but "Mutti" (Mum) did an outstanding job over the years.
EroticZombiePants
Does Germany have term limits?
The normal for chancellor is 4 years, but you can be re-elected 4 times. So the max would be 20 years in charge. Wasn´t accomplished so far.
Augenzuunddurch
Thats not true, we dont have a term limit.
nagelbett
*Only Merkel's best points* ... *Only Trump's worst points* "OMG you guys, Merkel's better than Trump."
assgetter420
No bias here
Artoris
I was thinking the same. He sucks enough, you could just use the facts.
AbsolutelyZeroFucksGiven
Uh, those aren't Trump's "worst points". In fact, those are some of his best. "Reality TV star" is probably his only real accomplishment..
ManOfIce
Jesus Christ OP's post is dumb. Let's not act like merkel is a fuckin saint either.
Dez1013
He's a literal shit sandwich.
DarkwingDuc
I've had bowel movements better than Trump.
SonderingStrike
Trump's best points- He knows how to please crowds, is very good at passing the non truth as truth, and is probably not Hitler.
RepostSadistic
The worst candidate to ever run for President. Still good enough to beat Hillary.
SomeAngelDude
Prrroooobably.
GandalfTheOctarine
Merkel is very good at ignoring the truth, even when it is out there is respectable and unbiased news sources.
*possibly (I'm sorry, I hate spelling Nazi's.) Pun intended.
Ah yes, I forgot everyone is Hitler.
Asteroidrules
He also might have skin, we've never seen it so we can't be sure, but it could exist.
rockyhorrorisme
There are not Trump's worst points. He's a child rapist and a pussy-grabber. Those are his worst points.
It's people like you that make me respect the awesome power of the American propaganda machine.
got some sources on that child rape? Because Pizza Gate people believe the same of hillary and Bill has the same ties trump does
Steffn
What are Trump's best points? I'm actually really curious!
he is a rather successful business man and is extremely good at getting people to follow him. The latter use to be one of the main (1/2)
qualifications to be president. I think it only isnt now because most politicians are far too polarizing (2/2)
I already replied to someone else. HINT: he didnt gain a net worth of +3bil by starting a failed casino.
Thanks for the hint, I was aware of that.
LizardEnterprises
Merkel's worst points are still better than Trumps best points.
Merkel destroys the EU and potentially fucks up the place permanently, and Trump's worse that Merkel???
The EU still exists, If she's destroyed it, she's taking her sweet time at it. Trump, meanwhile is moving at a breakneck pace to ruin the US
Yes you see, Trump is bad. And Merkel is good. And if you question this you're a racist and literally Hitler
you mean like her anti-science leanings on the fields of GMOs and nuclear energy? That seems tied with trump
1/2 Except Trump also thinks vaccines cause autism, and that global warming is a haox invented by the Chinese. Don't misunderstand - Merkel
oh, I am by no way saying merkel wouldn't be preferable to trump, just saying they do share some points. This just should have been (1/2)
2/2 is wrong on GMOs and nuclear energy, but I would kill to have a President who is *only* as wrong on science as Merkel.
best to best or worst to worst. Straight propaganda like this just bugs me even if I agree with its conclusions (2/2)
They share categories, not severity. Comparing them is like comparing a broken finger to a gunshot in the head.
philk
Anybody is better than that twat
PeteTusk
You're going to have to be more specific.
wittiw
not 99% of the population who doesn't know how to run america
Well, at least they couldn't be much worse, if at all.
Then you should run for President yourself.
Sadly, I am not born in the States. Otherwise I surely would do a better job.
if you have any good points about trump feel free to bring them on.
idontenglishsorry
I am not from the US nor i would have ever voted trump if I were but I still want this whole thing to be like "i am beign really bad so 1/2
the whole country unite against, therefore I made the country better"
HEY BY THE WAY, i had to google how to write "unite against me" and look what I found out
Successful developer, real estate. This is inarguable, yet OP only talks about his casino. Quite the omission about a man worth > 3bil.
amop
success is respective, he made out well, most of his businesses did not
He's a president, chairman, or member of more than 530 companies. He declared bankrupcies on 6 of them. That's a 99% success rate. 1/2
UmbertoBench
Success isn't demonstrated by number of companies. Many of those would be shell companies to minimise tax.
AND the majority of bankruptcies happened as the overall casino industry struggled, says Politifact (who even has a left-bias).
HolyCringeLordBatman
I'm super impressed that a man born wealthy as fuck managed to have money. Fucking impressive
C'mon, he has many things you can pick on him for. Why lie? 2/2
Blamblam101
Trump's got a theoretical degree in physics.
SystemZombie
Upvote for New Vegas reference
FrankJ7
wellthisjustgotinteresting
...what?
swinglinered
Fallout: New Vegas
im40percentbenderrodriguez
GrimDarkRealities
He sounds Fantastic.
uzerok
Welcome aboard.
pugofstardock
Alternative degree
TheGamingBaconator
Theoretically...
theSpeciaIist
lol this is too good
demergivore
And it's the best one
GameKeeper3001
Got an actual degree from Wharton.
xpabli
Indeed, it is a alternative fact
CornishWildMan
He knows about nuclear I can tell you. His Uncle told him about it and he knew a bigly lot about nuclear, it is strong like hulk.
JinXLeD
Yeah, but it's called "alternate science"
tomtomtomFR
37.2°C in theory
Luxyrion
I think he has a theoretical degree in thinking.
dfsmitty0711
I also got that reference.
eiyuu99
Does he have a practical degree in physics? /runs
RoombaTheAssaultVacuum
Theoretical degree in theoretical physics.
Renza0
There needs to be some manner of evidence for it to be theoretical, pretty sure its just hypothetical at this point.
Ijustwanttobememe
Alternative physics
Datsinginguy
This entire convo is the best convo I have read in a long long time. God bless you all.
KillerTofu69
Alternative physics*
EverythingISeeIsAJojosReference
I remember reading that on Breitbart!
Just kidding I'm not that messed up
gr8snd
Yeah, he's theoretically physical.
BadlyUsernameCera
An alternative degree in whatever
missstabby
What about a physical degree in theoretics?
Chetuo
Plus: he is bald...
OneFuckedPony
TheGreatBlueHeron
"I thought when they said physics they meant physical, like grabbing them right by the pussy" - trump
wiseidiot9
Where the hell is that image of Gordon Freeman putting a bullet in his head?
solaruin
He graduated from Penn in May 1968 with a Bachelor of Science degree in economics
weirdcalculator
A theory is an idea that's supported by evidence. He doesn't even have a hypothetical degree because the idea isn't reasonable a priori.
koopaklopp
Wherein the degree is theoretical...yes, yes
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kongfuchicken
Yes, its prestigious Phisycs department.
reux
I'd tap that +1
AllDogsMatters
tapp*
Stolf
Doctorate in pussy grabbing
Keyword here is "theoretical" as in he theoretically, in his mind imagines he might have one
I guess the Trump Trolls found you.
Assfullofbread
Yes thank you
hasmeh
This reminds me of the theoretical physicist in Fallout: New Vegas. Shame I can't share as I am on mobile right now.
Mr. Fantastic I think.
sorple
are you shitting me
Stuntminer202
They asked me if I had a degree in theoretical physics. I said I have a theoretical degree in physics. They said welcome aboard.
IAmYourGodNow
I love that quote. It's Fantastic.
FightingFurball
That deserves more points to be honest.
To be fair I say it every time I see that quote :P
FixedsysLabs
Patrolling the comment section almost makes you wish for nuclear winter
Beckiiftw
thatsthejoke.jpg
It's a quote from the game Fallout NV, the person speaking being a random guy with no experience, who was tasked with 1/2
I know, that's what the guy was originally referencing with the theoretical degree in physics joke. Then the dude just quoted the game again
repairing a solar panel array after lying about his qualifications.
Sirrussel5
Didyoumissthereference.gif
The original comment was using the reference from the game to make a joke in the scenario about trump. The reply just quotes the game
cas86
A doctorate in quantum physics doesnt mean you have the knowledge to run a business let alone a country, it meqns your good at physics
And obviously Trump can't even run a business OR a country. So there's that.
baronridiculous
*you're
cockblock3000
I think it's not so much static knowledge you need to cope variable problems, but the ability to understand things....
I think someone who achieved something in such a tough field as physics is more likely to cope with difficult problems in other fields ...
than a person who has not achieved anyhting that requires high-level understanding of very complicated things
wellju
He is literally mentally to incapable to run a business, otherwise he'd release his tax reports that would show that since 2005, he's broke.
TigerThong
It show you can understand complex abstract ideas. Running a business and a country are incredibly different. Generally business men ...
Aren't good at governing. As you can see with trump he thinks he can do whatever he wants with an EO not understanding the Constitution.
idiotn00b
*quantum chemistry
dylan5571
I don't think the knowledge to run a business means you have the knowledge to run a country either.....
frisian
If that was the case then Trump has a proven reccord of not being able to run a country (how many bankruptcies again?
NotFarEnough
And there's a pretty strong argument that No. 45 doesn't even know how to run a business well, but he makes people think he can
TearingAway
this. Check out what happened to atlantic city after he made yuuuge promises to those people...
Lot of crossover there. It's why Political Science degrees are valuable to businesses.
Running a business is far closer to running a country than doctoral research is though
Milchsteak
But it shows that you are not completly dumb and that you can work professional at an important job.
PeteButtigieg
Absolutely does not show that you can work professional at an important job. But definitely not completely dumb.
Honestly man, im not sure it does. All of the phys profs I have had only cared about their research. Dont typicaly cominicate well either
Actually it doesn't, it shows you can suceed in academia not the real world. I worked with plenty of PhDs who couldn't survive in a real job
Yeah but she can.
Ah, yes, the ol' compelling argument that the work academics do isn't 'real'
thisplaceisnotforyou
Filing for bankruptcy 6 times doesn't mean you have the knowledge to run a business or country either. At least she's good at physics.
TuggSpeedmann
The average millionaire goes bankrupt at least 3.5 times. capital gains is big risk - Big reward or big loss. 6 times is below average 1/2
2/2 for a billionaire. Trump has hundreds of investments. Plus CH11 bankruptcies aren't as bad as they sound. they can be smart.
It also doesn't begin to touch all the people who are successful in casinos, like even Sheldon Adelson.
Aside from that, he has taken on more debt and been sued more times than any other businessman. All arguments lead to failure.
Even if any of that were true, we can always refer to Trump U, steaks, vodka, mortgage company, airline, etc. Everything of his is shit.
Go look it up. And yes you can refer to any of his brand as shit but that's your opinion. Other people may actually like the brand.
Well my opinion and the opinion of the marketplace. So there's that.
msu14hockey
It means that you are capable of learning and understanding very complex issues...
does it though? Because she still rejects science on some important complex issues
Also, just kinda an FYI, high level physics is far more about how to do esoteric math than learning all of a lot of issues
Tunisia
Which requires being able to seek and assess evidence, recognise underlying causes and so on. Skills i want in a politician.
Too bad even with her back ground she ignores the evidence and is anti GMO and nuclear power
Even assuming he's a shrewd power-grabber, this brings the issue of "the skills needed to gain power are not the same as those to govern -->
--> effectively", especially when looking at something like the 2016 US presidential election.
"Attack brutally, focus on weaknesses, craft a narrative" is a great plan to beat an opponent in politics, but it won't work against stuff->
If he does, he's using them cynically to promote a wilfully ignorant, anti-evidence policy platform and voter base.
malakim
You do not live in germany, do you? Whenever something happens, Merkels answer is to do nothing and wait (probably for peer review)
Goodmerlinpeen
Peer review, as in consult experts in the field? WHat a fucked up idea.
Thing is, Merkel generally is not waiting for peer review but for the next big crisis to push the old one out of the spotlight.
Take the whole Turkey situation for example. Germany and Merkel herself have been called Nazis for weeks now. Merkel just shunts the (1/2)
every country has their idiots, eh?
northcarolinaisbeststate
If the industrial revolution led to global warming, then wouldn't that mean the British created it?
Global warming is a hoax
U.S. Is the #1 contributor historically. Trump Admin last week regarding climate change: "we're not spending money on that anymore". Christ.
AgolfHiller
Well they ruined the weather in London
Funny thing: sulfur emissions of UK caused the northern Europe to have colder winters until 90's when it was restricted. Yes, colder (+)
(+) - sulfur emissions are special bc they make the temperature go down.
AndrewPChapman
Then... I think we have our solution... more demons...
ThatsMySecretCapImAlwaysHorny
Or eat more boiled eggs to make those sulphury farts
Yeah, I don't like boiled eggs, and some of those demons are pretty hot. Figure it was win-win.
khazorath
Nah, everyone just copied us
SvennGalley
That still doesn't make it a hoax.
Spikelf
What does it make it?
Fatherdoodle
Hopefully a sandwich. I'm hungry.
Haaaaaa take my upvote
Treblaine
And the Industrial Revolution jsut so happened to get started right after US War of Independence
davebeastly
Why else would we wiretap him? He's on to us.
ohmegatron
Naw the industrial revolution came about with Henry Ford's invention of the assembly line. So America.
houndfriedchicken
Uh, no.
payamsaid13
Nah it would mean they created a way to cause global warming more effectively. Ironically enough, they followed the idea behind the industr-
TheVainyKnight
If global warming is caused by efficiently then the Germans are to blame.
ial revolution: effeciency
AgentNSFW
v
hippy80
She's letting the Devil OUT! KILL IT!
I love the one when she's eating a fish like a seal
Thank you. You did what I hoped someone would do
sangman
http://imgur.com/l9c6ytP.gifv
ProxyPlayerHD
sauce?
YoOmarsComin
,
whats dis +1
ChaosandChaos
User name is... appropriate?
TheFlyingTrapezoid
We can technically blame everything on the british. The Middle East is in disarray because of how Britain decided to break up Ottoman lands.
ireallycantthinkofanythingoriginal
The worst mistake made by the British was America, and that's saying a lot coming from an Irish person.
Binerexis
The middle east is arguably worse.
That was kind of a joint effort by Europe to fuck up a place. America then came along later and threw rocks at the hornets nest.
nosquirrelbones
Yeah, the British paved the way for the U.S...never live that one down. Probably the worst of their evils.
Fleecemaster
Yeah, sorry about that
ChrisLucas1
The British and the French, if we're talking the border drawing after the collapse of the ottomans.
TheTastiestTampon
Holy shit, it's almost like the collapse of an empire has repercussions that echo for decades and centuries.
At least the Holy Roman Empire didn't leave too much of a scar.
doctorbees
Colonialism is a helluva drug.
Bertylicious
lol it was just a prank bro
SprinklesMckitten
Opium wars too
To be fair, we REALLY needed the money for tea.
Strongharbour432
Nothing quite like a good mandate land grab. Then They tossed it to the un when things got topsy turvey.
btraqnasty
If you want to blame someone for the east/west conflict that kind of starts with the Greeks and the Persians
KaneVel
A lot of messes in Africa are because of some borders the British and the French Drew pretty much.
Locolarue
Definitely. The competing tribes just keep fighting over control of the government.
I didn't say all of them.
Neither did I...?
hypnokrote
If the Ottomans had kept out of WWI they wouldn't have lost those lands to the Brits in the first place
Well had that ass Gavrilo Princip not shot Franz Ferdinand, the alliance system wouldn't have forced everyone to war.
Aardvarksneedlove
There are other theories https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GIpm_8v80hw
Just one of the many sparks that lead to war.
You can just go down the chain until you get to the big bang. If the universe wasn't created.... Etc.
dohcohv
Pretty sure Europe was heading to war, they just needed an excuse, anything would do.
It was pretty much a big ol black power keg by that point. But what's better than a good ol family brawl?
And if Germany was never formed by Bismarck, then Wilheim wouldn't have been able to np give Austria the blank cheque...
SmellOfMonkey
Was that our fault too?
German here: Not a fan of Merkel. I expected better energy and agriculture choices from someone with that kind of qualification. ->
As A Dutchman, not a fan of Merkel either.
And what government position would you appoint Trump to?
Uhmmm... assistent janitor, maybe.
BigSnicker
Dude, they way national politician selection is working these days, thank your lucky stars for her every. single. day.
Thirdy
In Germany you got a democratic, federal parliamentary republic while in USA president, Congress, and federal courts share powers. got it?
Merkel nearly as much power as the presitent in the USA. The parties got the power in Germany, which you elect directly.
Spearka
I think it's more that she's restricted by red tape more than anything else; politics isn't a "do what you want" thing.
whereismyscotch
We will trade you. Orange man for yours.
guess, what, if I don't like somebody's left/slant I can cherry pick a few mistakes they made as well. Those don't seem like huge issues.
Oh, there are many other things: No equal rights for gays, never decriminalize pot, bank bailout, refugee policy and deal with Turkey...
stagg572
Fallacy being that the people under them make the overwhelming majority of policy. They are broad strokes.
The Bundeskanzler decides who gets to make those policies though. They install and dismiss them. So poor choices are still poor choices.
Obviously but Im saying that the minutia of most the decisions are poured over by underlings and staffers, not the leader.
beedoodlez
yeah ok except that u all are proficient in english(a 2nd language)&we still don't know how to count to 10 in espanol. european education >>
pisto1peet
Care to explain? Asking for a friend.
How do you feel about Trump?
Nuclear Power~ is the way to go~ But i think we got other Problems before people can focus on better Reactors.
Penth13f
To be fair, germany's had WORSE leaders as well... ;)
Communist institutions produce degrees, not well trained students.
JohnSmithterms
Be gratefull your %gdp spent on sci research is not american.
You wanna swap with Trump? Didn't think so
freezingpilot
But as a German, ask yourself, would you rather: Merkel, or Trump?
dasklaus
I wish we could just put her in front of another party. She's an amazing politician, but I disagree with her policies a lot.
NRubric
I don't think putting her in another party would change her policies that much. Alte Hunde und so...
She's perfectly willing to compromise for tactics or approval. She wouldn't even need to change her rhetorics, just the content.
To make it clear: I don't want to see her in a more right-wing position. I'm wary of those downvotes in light of some comments on this post.
*upvotes. I meant upvotes.
REV076
Having a degree in quantum physics doesn't qualify you as a good politician. (And no, I don't support Trump, nor Merkel)
frostybox
no but is shows you have a great capacity for learning and understanding. Trump is just an angry toddler who throws his own poo.
Or just a great capacity to memorize lines from textbooks.
yeah maybe for a doctorate in theater or something, you can't BS your way thru quantum chemistry
Indeed. Seeing as how that scientific degree is used here to elevate her as a politician, I felt I had something to add to that.
forsale90
I agree, but at least it shows you are capable of understanding complex topics, which is a good starting point.
I doubt it. Her immigration, energy, and EU policy has been problematic for many Germans.
sogermanithurts
Bullshit
krazyleer
No bullshit at all
MostIndeedlySo
Hey, does Chancellor of Germany have term limits? I mean, Merkel's been in power as long as Hitler by now. I'm sorry but of all places...
There are no term limits. When I was 16, Kohl resigned from his chancellorship after 15 years. I didn't knew a life with another Chancellor.
...Germany should be mandated to have a term limit of two for every political position.
I agree. Many politicians become opportunistic career politicians and seem to lose all touch to reality.
We should have learned from Rome, but nooooo that would put work out!
*wouldnt
klenkidd
Do you even know any politicians? Personally? Like, from your city or communal council? Just curious.
1 I joined the CDU (Merkel's party) when I was 18 in 2002 and left them again in 2006. I'm not sure about knowing personally, but I met
4 On a communal level people feet are usually firmly on the ground, because they know their peers. But as you move higher up it becomes
3 office. Except that mostly communal and city council members, helped campaigning and did some work for the local 'Young Union'.
5 more and more difficult to find time and stay in touch with the actual voters. At least that's my impression of things. /end
2 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stefan_Mappusppus">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stefan_Mappus> and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%BCnther_Oettinger before they had held their highest
But no, GMO is bad, we must quit nuclear power, we must combat global warming but we must also build hundreds of new lignite power plants.->
v3rmilion
I was under the impression that she was submitting to the People's opinions on those things because iunno electorate
BYBT
Sometimes a politician has to do not what they believe is right but what the people want, and Menschen sind dumm, so thats what you get
I was very upset with quitting nuclear power aswell. She just went with public opinion, I dont think she would have done it otherwise.
zeusdemigod131
I don't know German news, are you being sarcastic about things the government has done or are you serious?
Personally I don't have anything against tested GMO. I don't hate nuclear and I think building coal power plants against CO2 is stupid.
Fortunately they at least decided to stop the lignite nonsense and to keep it for emergency situations.
ITSMRTORGUEYELLINGSTUFF
Drei Upvotes für dich!
DasAtom
iirc the cdu tried to let nuclear power run longer than the spd decided prior. Then fukushima happened n they decided to quit it rather soon
aguacatedeldiablo
I'd love to have a president with a coherent enough agenda that I could effectively disagree with it
JoseDeLaNoWay
This.....exactly this.
AnaBlanco
I like the cut of your jib - three upvotes for you!
Hundreds of new lignite power plants? What energy choices you don't like?
1 Well, perhaps not hundreds. But lignite (brown coal) was their idea for supplying the base load while demanding lower CO2 emissions.
2 Personally I think that nuclear phase-out is a bad move. Modern nuclear power plants are a good solution for the base load.
where nuclear power plants are rather bad. I think it's a good move to replace conventional power plants by renewables.
I don't think so. Renewables are great for localized application, but for the base load inflexible but reliable is the best choice.
But base load is losing more and more importance with a high share of renewables. It's more important to have flexible power plants,
TheBurritoConfederacy
As long as you can come up with grid-scale energy storage (battery, pumped hydro, etc.) to handle fluctuations in your renewables.
DrSparken
Renewables which don't work too often. Nuclear can provide sufficient base load to make the renewables redundant just as cleanly.
I agree with Merkel on those things, and there are problems with GMO not related to the science, Nuclear is not 'clean" And "lignite" /1
isn't really being used. /2
Most energy is produced by lignite, why do you think it isn't really beeing used?
Walfas
Nuclear energy is cleaner than pretty much everything except geothermal, wind, hydro and tidal. Many times more versatile too.
Arguable whether those are cleaner either with significantly more construction involved for the same generation capacity. And nuclear 1/
has killed less than any of them, even trying to include as many deaths as reasonably possible in Chernobyl. 2/2
Nuclear doesn't have a good rep here in Germany. Especially after Fukushima most of the media made it look like the work of the devil.
Yaaaay media. They ruin everything.
Thornaxe
What are your issues with GMOs?
Maraak
"Muh monsanto!" I'm guessin' :/
luxiem
Learn something https://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/10/30/business/gmo-promise-falls-short.html
How dare we not trust the company that claimed agent orange was safe!
The way they patent seeds, or the way their seeds are destroying heirloom crops and hampering biodiversity. Lots of realistic concerns exist
Addman0
Also farming itself is the problem to biodiversity the best way to fix biodiversity just reduce the amount of area used for farming (3/4)
But GMO not the problem but one of many multi-pronged pronged solutions
Who is 'they'? Monsanto? By that logic we should have abandoned all medicine because Josef Mengele was a physician.
Which the best was to do tht is to increase crop yield which GMO has done Now GMO isnt a savings Grace farms practces still need to be fix
Heirloom aren't a scientific term but a marketing term. GMO tech and other breedin techniques have increased the selection for Farmers (2/3)
If they can't patent/sell the seed technology then they can't/won't develop it, leaving various innovations unavailable.
But you can patent any type of seed including non-gmo. Something the seed industry has been doing for almost a 100 years. (1/2)
Robindino17
Well we don't know the long term effects of GMO crop consumption which is a fair point against them.
1 Almost nothing we eat today has its original genetic code. We humans have been modifying the crops we eat for thousands of years using
2 random mutations and selective breeding. None of that stuff is natural. So unless you believe in magic, odds are that there won't be many
3 surprises down the road when it comes to 'tested' GMO.
True but that is using genes from the plants, when using genes from bacteria it is different to my opinion. I do agree it is low-risk.
1 Genes are just molecules, built from atoms. Natural mutation could cause the same thing. GMO is nothing supernatural here. If you
2 introduce incompatible genes into a cell, that cell will die. If they're compatible the cells 'may' thrive. I can agree that something
3 like this has to be judged on a case by case basis. Because just like in nature the results are neither inherently good nor bad.
GravitasX
skidabernackle
Both need better haircuts.
Welliguessillgogetpants
Trump has a degree in bullshit
Talann1
Now do Obama and Bush and Clinton
sizlon
Why does this get down voted ... haha great point but wrong opinion imgur banishes you to the bad replies.
dennydorko
That's cuz in Murica we judge our presidential candidates by how well they "connect with people" and not on how competent they.
Smudge13
How well they connect their hands with the pussy of the people*
JustPuffins
He really doesn't get enough shit for being a failed casino owner. It's literally a business where people bring you their money.
MyExistence
He filed after the 2008 recession. *Every* casino suffered. Priorities change when millions lose their jobs and the economy tanks.
carlalalaone
I'm in Africa right now and I have to keep explaining the electoral college and that the majority of us DID NOT vote for him
Mayonnaiseisainstrument
Doesn't matter, the system is too fucked up
TheJudgeofTheInternet
Angela Merkel is still pretty far right with social policy, that's why Gay Marriage isn't allowed in Germany yet.
Mayonnaiseisainstrument
This has more to do with her religious belief I think.
flakeOfDoom
That'd be the cause of her being "pretty far right with social policy", though, not a different explanation, no?
eindude
Im actually just glad he doesent drink and get drunk. All of a sudden bombs everywhere. Probably.. i dont know. I drink
eindude
*i am drunk
marcusvengeance
Trump is retarded.
ThousandCopyCats
And why's that?
PsychRealms
Even a full blown idiot could see that Trump is a retard
ThousandCopyCats
How's Trump retarded?
DaedaIus
Because CNN told him so, obviously.
juuri
german here: she fucks up our country with her politics as well. grew up in east germany (the socialistic part) and never lost the attitude
Anabolexander
German here; Go fuck yourself. She's doing fine and so is Germany.
DaedaIus
Don't worry friend, we'll find a way for you to defect to the free nations soon.
juuri
Also: not remotely on topic -.-
juuri
Obviously a lot of germans thing otherwise. At least I dont insult people, only her way of doing politics...
Wangwat
FAKE NEWS!!!!!
GlennTheWisp
There's a conspiracy going around saying he has a brain
ThousandCopyCats
How do you make several billions of dollars without a brain
oVexlz
How do you mispell tap?
Ana5ta51a
Yes, but nobody misspells better than him.
supersomatic
If you're swayed by cherry picking, you're the problem in the world.
eskamobob1
at least part of it. I think the over all problem is we dont honestly care enough about most shit
ButtersakaProfChoas
I can tell you that I personally don't five a shit about anything. As long as I have a roof over my head and steady paycheck, I'm happy.
ButtersakaProfChoas
The steady paycheck is for booze and weed btw, thought that was important.
GoNavy09
See, Trump is not a failed businessman though. He was very successful. And if we diminish that we will forget how he thinks (1).
GoNavy09
Understanding that he views the US like a company will help predict the choices he will make. (2/2)
Habreon
Depends on how you define success in business. Most of his companies were driven into the ground, while he made out rich
WarDragon1984
Yes, because a guy who drives companies into the ground to enrich himself, is exactly the President we want running the USA like a company.
jackpkmn
Wanting to understand something is not the same thing as endorsing it.
SomeCrazyNerd
He was born rich. He had a very unfair advatnage. His real estate company is his dad's
pandro
He declared bankruptcy in the 1980s and wrote a book about his success. People who watched his shenanigans then think he has no character.
MyExistence
He has over 530 businesses and declared bankruptcy on 6 of them, during a time where the overall casino industry struggled. 99% success rate
SamCookeisGod
I still want to know how my damn president gets his news from other places than the GODDAMN DEPARTMENTS THEMSELVES! How?! HOW?!
AngryGroundhog
He's trying to govern from his alternate reality; the facts provided by government agencies all contradict his worldviews. Hence, Fox News.
FarFromBitten
Probably bannon only gives him permission to watch Fox
RobJenkins
I think he's found out that a lot of the job is complicated, hard and boring. He didn't get to meet the aliens & there is no death ray
cleverbeans
Also, apparently being president doesn't make him supreme ruler and he still has to comply with the law. That's got to bother him.
WhatzitTooya
He likes the ones on fox news better.
dootdootbop
I think that he's trying to make people suspicious of our intelligence agencies. In case any other shit leaks about him.
phantasmaphilia
I feel like ppl r scared to tell him the truth [or tell him he's wrong], in fear of losing their jobs. scary fucking world rn.
AngryGroundhog
Doesn't help that he'll dominantly will only hire other racists, xenophobes & climate change deniers to support him.
thelonepig
Remember how he said he wasn't attending the daily security briefings because he's smart and doesn't need to go every day like Obama did?
DavidBrooker
>Has access to the most sophisticated information system on the planet >Ignores it and watches crank talk-radio hosts instead
MrSebi
Because he's a cantankerous 70 year old, and won't change his viewing habits.
FlyingTigerRose
Breitbart News, The National Enquirer... I wish I was kidding. I heard on NPR where he'll see some stupid ass "article" and within 10 (1/2)
FlyingTigerRose
minutes there he is tweeting it. No checking, no other source, just something he saw or read in one place, and said, "Ooooohh!".
RobJenkins
So he stuck to what he finds easy to digest and understand. It's just a shame that its mostly bullshit
MrAwesomesauce101
He doesn't really listen to Cabinet. They are kind of left out of important decisions. Instead of informing and influencing, they're told.
DVSBSTrD
Because Hillary is a criminal tool of the evil corporations. And emails. And something my grandpa sent me from Facebook.
27yoUGLYvirgin
Well she is. Why do people always see one as good and one as bad. Clinton is corporate scum just like trump is.SheJustIsOnTheReceivingEnd
TheFermiSolution
The more days that pass in which I am disappointed in this presidency, the more I want to throttle people like you.
27yoUGLYvirgin
He's the one who admittedly bribes the politicians, she is the one who we know as a fact takes the moneys. And he now does both of course.
Asciiman
Gonna keep beating that horse eh? Eventually it will be relevant again, after all, things are always comming back in style.
DVSBSTrD
Or you could, I dunno, judge her by her actions in and out of office instead of just by who her campaign contributors are.
27yoUGLYvirgin
Like the her actions where she tells wallstreet everything they want to hear in secret meetings, or the one where she changes laws for the
itsatoughshittydingo
So you agree the New York Times is not a valid new source?
ZZhillTopper
My problem is how does he get news from bogus sites and have the audacity to call real journalism 'Fake News'.
5po0ky
He's not very intelligent
ZZhillTopper
He can be clever in the way a seedy used car salesmen often are, he knows he audience and can make a sale. But yes most of the time I think
ZZhillTopper
he is a moron
eroso
FYI: Trump doesn't read. US intel doesn't provide their information in audio nor in video form. It's easier for him to just watch some TV.
SpiffyMouse
And what little he can read or write is apparently only limited to 140 characters. Kinda like a computer with 32mb of RAM: useless.
RandomAbscessMemories
So the CIA just needs to tweet intel at him?
eroso
That or just send them to Fox News
Asciiman
It is a shame how much truth is actually in these statements
2bachata
I'm confident there are many white house staffers that would volunteer to read the briefings to him.
eroso
And ye, Trump is well known that he doesn't use email either. At all. I wonder if he uses computers at all
WhatzitTooya
He doesnt read. Writing is a-ok, as long as the text is not longer than 140 chars...
eroso
Funnyt thing: he doesn't even write his own tweets. Trump has said that he dictates all tweets to his staffers
donorkort
"And fit in a 'Sad!' at the end. That'll show them."
RoseFaery
Ugh, some body has to translate his unintelligible screeching into >140, & then read him the replies & get screamed at for his 'rebuttal'
GeorgeHWBushsGhost
Are you talking about the sureveillance?
HighlySexualLobster
To be fair he got his information about the wiretap from the intelligence community, it just happened to be the Russian SVR.
GeorgeHWBushsGhost
He got it from US intelligence, as a matter of fact some agencies said there was no Trump connection to Russia before we found out about ->
GeorgeHWBushsGhost
<- about the FISC warrants taken out.
HighlySexualLobster
This is about the server? That came out in late october right?
ladyface
There were no FISC warrants taken out. No wiretapping occurred. Read up!
anonymouscoward69
Wait, what? How do you fail as a casino owner? That's like failing at selling beer to alcoholics outside an AA meeting.
MyExistence
It was during a time where the overall casino industry struggled. He declared bankruptcy on it right after the 2008 recession.
LosPer
Not when there's competition, cash flows, and marketing skills involved...
Sionas
By the way Merkel might be smart but she's not a good prime minister.
yazwho
Happy to swap you for May...
flaccidhope
No Western leader could approach her current approval rating (60%), especially after 13 years in office (3 terms and a potential 4th).
Barkinsons
Based on the time she's in power and her overall approval, she's certainly above average. A calm worker often surpasses a loud, popular one
FirstDagger
Chancellor not Prime Minister.
Sionas
Equivalent title.
Nikoelchico
Lol please stop. I don't mean to insult; just a friendly pointer...people will be less likely to buy into any opinion you may have when you
Nikoelchico
state that she is germany's prime minister...because she isn't. Also, i disagree with your point that she is a bad leader, Chancellor
Sionas
The chancelor of Germany is equivalent to prime minister in other countries. I think it's fine.
killingjoke8181
I'm so embarrassed to be an American.
BOSSMOPS
Shhh there there... It's not your fault... You aren't the embarrassment. As long as you didn't vote for him :D
Snakesidon
Feel free to leave :D
Erockerockerock
Why?
cleverbeans
Why wouldn't they be? Just the embarrassment of their healthcare system should be sufficient but Trump's racism and sexism are shameful too.
WarDragon1984
Why do you think.
DaedaIus
Because America is one of the few nations at the forefront of a political movement that hasn't caught on culturally yet.
jesusfuckingchristwhatnameisnttaken4
I assume because Trump is an international laughing-stock, man-child, petulant moron who get's his news, not from agencies, but from Fox.
AbeoLogos
I would be ecstatic if Fox was Trump's sole source of news. Sadly, his sources are much more varied, and of a more questionable calibre.
AbeoLogos
I would be ecstatic if Fox was Trump's sole source of news. Sadly, his sources are much more varied, and of a more questionable calibre.
ApartforHaShem
One ran their nation into chaos, debt, and increased terror activity while the other has barely in office 3 months.
TheBritfag
I honestly don't understand why people praise Merkel. She is a terrible leader, and to say she's the leader of the free world is wrong.
Mayonnaiseisainstrument
If she is a terrible leader, Trump is Literally Hitler.
TheBritfag
"everyone I don't like is Hitler!" - The childs guide to politics.
Mayonnaiseisainstrument
or Kim Jong Un or someone else of this kind, choose one
Mayonnaiseisainstrument
Chaos? Germany? *looks around*
DaedaIus
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0014292116302252
baldbear
That´s a plain lie. Germany is not chaotic - not more then normal- Our debts are DECREASING, and terror grows on its own. No help needed.
Shadehawk
so your argument is "trump is better because he hasnt had time to be shitter!"?
ApartforHaShem
Not sure I made the comment: two turds and both stink.
Munchman347
Merkel has been in office longer than three months...
flaccidhope
In 2016, Germany recorded a $25.5 billion surplus. Germany hasn't needed to borrow money for many years. The US? $441 billion...in deficit.
ThousandCopyCats
You're a fucking moron if you are trying to blame our debt, caused by Obama, on Trump. Fixing the debt was a major part of his campaign.
flaccidhope
First of all, calm down and read the replies below that comment. Secondly, learn the difference between debt and budget deficit.
ThousandCopyCats
Not an argument. Trump proposed to fix our budget, which he is now clearly doing.
flaccidhope
No, none of this is my argument. My point is that every developed country is in deficit, Germany has a friggin surplus. Merkel is doing good
MemesNDreams16
Not to play the devil's advocate but the deficit has been going on longer than Trump has been in office.
flaccidhope
I know, my point was that the all of the developed world has huge budget deficits. For Germany to have a surplus instead is amazing.
MemesNDreams16
That will soon grind to a halt once Germany has gather revenue to economically integrate refugees into the population.
flakeOfDoom
I'm happy to pay a pile of money up-front to solve one of the large issues that's plaguing the country and will only get worse with time!
flaccidhope
That figure is from last year, mate, and includes preps for refugees. And it's projected to grow to record highs this year as well.
OddlyLongUserName
She's also had numerous terrorist attacks while in office and her pro emigration ideas aren't exactly loved by native Germans
baldbear
I call BS. Give some proof to a german, please.
NoAsBigAsMediumJockButBiggerThanWeeJockJock
As a German: Her pro emigration is what made me at least respect her a bit.
pandro
I don't keep up with the news. What exactly did she fail at that makes her responsible for terrorist attacks? or is she committing them.
Zahnradfee
Her choice to help people in need is the only thing she's ever done well. But afterwards everything turned back to hostility and disregard >
Zahnradfee
against refugees. And the voluntaty helpers are left alone. State is not doing its job.
baldbear
I call BS. Give some proof to a german, please.
DaedaIus
Would you like video of the anti-migrant protests or new reports about Ansbach?
baldbear
That´s some, not the majority. And Ansbach was last juli. Terror exists because our way of living is hated, it needs no other reason.
DaedaIus
No one said majority. Mormons hate a lot of your way of living as well, yet they don't seem to be attacking you.
duboka
Are two "numerous"? From where do you get your news from? And for me as German, this are the only good actions she did as chancellor...
DaedaIus
19 December 2016, Berlin. 24 July 2016 Ansbach. 19 July 2016 Wurzburg. 26 February 2016 Hanover. This is using a pretty strict definition.
duboka
Sorry, you are right. There were more than 2. 3 are correct, but I don't know if it counts as numerous. The one in Hannover was no refugee..
DaedaIus
I could have kept going, but 140 character limit
flaccidhope
Trump would kill for her approval ratings.
iliketotravelandstuff
Maybe not by AFD assholes. Luckily, thats still a minority.
mathematicalmole
Is it just me or has Merkel been in power for like 15 years? Whatever the real length, seems kinda long to me in a democracy.
JamJarre
Term limits are such an American concept
mathematicalmole
It exists in France and other European countries though.
flaccidhope
Germans like stability. She's delivered solid economic growth for Germany so they've felt no need to change. She's still at 60% approval.
Mithi
12 years, since 2005. Helmut Kohl was 16 years in office.
baldbear
She was elected and 3x re-elected in one the most democratic countries in the world. Because the majority thinks she is doing some good.
eskamobob1
I was under the impression merkel isnt hugely liked, just her opponents are always complete shit.
baldbear
she has some hard times now, but "Mutti" (Mum) did an outstanding job over the years.
EroticZombiePants
Does Germany have term limits?
baldbear
The normal for chancellor is 4 years, but you can be re-elected 4 times. So the max would be 20 years in charge. Wasn´t accomplished so far.
Augenzuunddurch
Thats not true, we dont have a term limit.
nagelbett
*Only Merkel's best points* ... *Only Trump's worst points* "OMG you guys, Merkel's better than Trump."
assgetter420
No bias here
Artoris
I was thinking the same. He sucks enough, you could just use the facts.
AbsolutelyZeroFucksGiven
Uh, those aren't Trump's "worst points". In fact, those are some of his best. "Reality TV star" is probably his only real accomplishment..
ManOfIce
Jesus Christ OP's post is dumb. Let's not act like merkel is a fuckin saint either.
Dez1013
He's a literal shit sandwich.
DarkwingDuc
I've had bowel movements better than Trump.
SonderingStrike
Trump's best points- He knows how to please crowds, is very good at passing the non truth as truth, and is probably not Hitler.
RepostSadistic
The worst candidate to ever run for President. Still good enough to beat Hillary.
SomeAngelDude
Prrroooobably.
GandalfTheOctarine
Merkel is very good at ignoring the truth, even when it is out there is respectable and unbiased news sources.
Artoris
*possibly (I'm sorry, I hate spelling Nazi's.) Pun intended.
DaedaIus
Ah yes, I forgot everyone is Hitler.
Asteroidrules
He also might have skin, we've never seen it so we can't be sure, but it could exist.
rockyhorrorisme
There are not Trump's worst points. He's a child rapist and a pussy-grabber. Those are his worst points.
DaedaIus
It's people like you that make me respect the awesome power of the American propaganda machine.
eskamobob1
got some sources on that child rape? Because Pizza Gate people believe the same of hillary and Bill has the same ties trump does
Steffn
What are Trump's best points? I'm actually really curious!
eskamobob1
he is a rather successful business man and is extremely good at getting people to follow him. The latter use to be one of the main (1/2)
eskamobob1
qualifications to be president. I think it only isnt now because most politicians are far too polarizing (2/2)
nagelbett
I already replied to someone else. HINT: he didnt gain a net worth of +3bil by starting a failed casino.
Steffn
Thanks for the hint, I was aware of that.
LizardEnterprises
Merkel's worst points are still better than Trumps best points.
TheBritfag
Merkel destroys the EU and potentially fucks up the place permanently, and Trump's worse that Merkel???
LizardEnterprises
The EU still exists, If she's destroyed it, she's taking her sweet time at it. Trump, meanwhile is moving at a breakneck pace to ruin the US
DaedaIus
Yes you see, Trump is bad. And Merkel is good. And if you question this you're a racist and literally Hitler
eskamobob1
you mean like her anti-science leanings on the fields of GMOs and nuclear energy? That seems tied with trump
LizardEnterprises
1/2 Except Trump also thinks vaccines cause autism, and that global warming is a haox invented by the Chinese. Don't misunderstand - Merkel
eskamobob1
oh, I am by no way saying merkel wouldn't be preferable to trump, just saying they do share some points. This just should have been (1/2)
LizardEnterprises
2/2 is wrong on GMOs and nuclear energy, but I would kill to have a President who is *only* as wrong on science as Merkel.
eskamobob1
best to best or worst to worst. Straight propaganda like this just bugs me even if I agree with its conclusions (2/2)
LizardEnterprises
They share categories, not severity. Comparing them is like comparing a broken finger to a gunshot in the head.
philk
Anybody is better than that twat
PeteTusk
You're going to have to be more specific.
wittiw
not 99% of the population who doesn't know how to run america
philk
Well, at least they couldn't be much worse, if at all.
DaedaIus
Then you should run for President yourself.
philk
Sadly, I am not born in the States. Otherwise I surely would do a better job.
Shadehawk
if you have any good points about trump feel free to bring them on.
idontenglishsorry
I am not from the US nor i would have ever voted trump if I were but I still want this whole thing to be like "i am beign really bad so 1/2
idontenglishsorry
the whole country unite against, therefore I made the country better"
idontenglishsorry
HEY BY THE WAY, i had to google how to write "unite against me" and look what I found out
nagelbett
Successful developer, real estate. This is inarguable, yet OP only talks about his casino. Quite the omission about a man worth > 3bil.
amop
success is respective, he made out well, most of his businesses did not
wittiw
MyExistence
He's a president, chairman, or member of more than 530 companies. He declared bankrupcies on 6 of them. That's a 99% success rate. 1/2
UmbertoBench
Success isn't demonstrated by number of companies. Many of those would be shell companies to minimise tax.
MyExistence
AND the majority of bankruptcies happened as the overall casino industry struggled, says Politifact (who even has a left-bias).
HolyCringeLordBatman
I'm super impressed that a man born wealthy as fuck managed to have money. Fucking impressive
MyExistence
C'mon, he has many things you can pick on him for. Why lie? 2/2
Blamblam101
Trump's got a theoretical degree in physics.
SystemZombie
Upvote for New Vegas reference
FrankJ7
wellthisjustgotinteresting
...what?
swinglinered
Fallout: New Vegas
im40percentbenderrodriguez
GrimDarkRealities
He sounds Fantastic.
uzerok
Welcome aboard.
pugofstardock
Alternative degree
TheGamingBaconator
Theoretically...
theSpeciaIist
lol this is too good
demergivore
And it's the best one
GameKeeper3001
Got an actual degree from Wharton.
xpabli
Indeed, it is a alternative fact
CornishWildMan
He knows about nuclear I can tell you. His Uncle told him about it and he knew a bigly lot about nuclear, it is strong like hulk.
JinXLeD
Yeah, but it's called "alternate science"
CornishWildMan
He knows about nuclear I can tell you. His Uncle told him about it and he knew a bigly lot about nuclear, it is strong like hulk.
tomtomtomFR
37.2°C in theory
Luxyrion
I think he has a theoretical degree in thinking.
dfsmitty0711
I also got that reference.
eiyuu99
Does he have a practical degree in physics? /runs
RoombaTheAssaultVacuum
Theoretical degree in theoretical physics.
Renza0
There needs to be some manner of evidence for it to be theoretical, pretty sure its just hypothetical at this point.
Ijustwanttobememe
Alternative physics
Datsinginguy
This entire convo is the best convo I have read in a long long time. God bless you all.
KillerTofu69
Alternative physics*
EverythingISeeIsAJojosReference
I remember reading that on Breitbart!
EverythingISeeIsAJojosReference
Just kidding I'm not that messed up
gr8snd
Yeah, he's theoretically physical.
BadlyUsernameCera
An alternative degree in whatever
missstabby
What about a physical degree in theoretics?
Chetuo
Plus: he is bald...
OneFuckedPony
TheGreatBlueHeron
"I thought when they said physics they meant physical, like grabbing them right by the pussy" - trump
wiseidiot9
Where the hell is that image of Gordon Freeman putting a bullet in his head?
solaruin
He graduated from Penn in May 1968 with a Bachelor of Science degree in economics
weirdcalculator
A theory is an idea that's supported by evidence. He doesn't even have a hypothetical degree because the idea isn't reasonable a priori.
koopaklopp
Wherein the degree is theoretical...yes, yes
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kongfuchicken
Yes, its prestigious Phisycs department.
reux
I'd tap that +1
AllDogsMatters
tapp*
Stolf
Doctorate in pussy grabbing
Nikoelchico
Keyword here is "theoretical" as in he theoretically, in his mind imagines he might have one
gr8snd
I guess the Trump Trolls found you.
Assfullofbread
Nikoelchico
Yes thank you
hasmeh
This reminds me of the theoretical physicist in Fallout: New Vegas. Shame I can't share as I am on mobile right now.
Blamblam101
Mr. Fantastic I think.
sorple
are you shitting me
Stuntminer202
They asked me if I had a degree in theoretical physics. I said I have a theoretical degree in physics. They said welcome aboard.
IAmYourGodNow
I love that quote. It's Fantastic.
FightingFurball
That deserves more points to be honest.
IAmYourGodNow
To be fair I say it every time I see that quote :P
FixedsysLabs
Patrolling the comment section almost makes you wish for nuclear winter
Beckiiftw
thatsthejoke.jpg
Stuntminer202
It's a quote from the game Fallout NV, the person speaking being a random guy with no experience, who was tasked with 1/2
Beckiiftw
I know, that's what the guy was originally referencing with the theoretical degree in physics joke. Then the dude just quoted the game again
Stuntminer202
repairing a solar panel array after lying about his qualifications.
Sirrussel5
Didyoumissthereference.gif
Beckiiftw
The original comment was using the reference from the game to make a joke in the scenario about trump. The reply just quotes the game
cas86
A doctorate in quantum physics doesnt mean you have the knowledge to run a business let alone a country, it meqns your good at physics
jesusfuckingchristwhatnameisnttaken4
And obviously Trump can't even run a business OR a country. So there's that.
baronridiculous
*you're
cockblock3000
I think it's not so much static knowledge you need to cope variable problems, but the ability to understand things....
cockblock3000
I think someone who achieved something in such a tough field as physics is more likely to cope with difficult problems in other fields ...
cockblock3000
than a person who has not achieved anyhting that requires high-level understanding of very complicated things
wellju
He is literally mentally to incapable to run a business, otherwise he'd release his tax reports that would show that since 2005, he's broke.
TigerThong
It show you can understand complex abstract ideas. Running a business and a country are incredibly different. Generally business men ...
TigerThong
Aren't good at governing. As you can see with trump he thinks he can do whatever he wants with an EO not understanding the Constitution.
idiotn00b
*quantum chemistry
dylan5571
I don't think the knowledge to run a business means you have the knowledge to run a country either.....
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frisian
If that was the case then Trump has a proven reccord of not being able to run a country (how many bankruptcies again?
NotFarEnough
And there's a pretty strong argument that No. 45 doesn't even know how to run a business well, but he makes people think he can
TearingAway
this. Check out what happened to atlantic city after he made yuuuge promises to those people...
DaedaIus
Lot of crossover there. It's why Political Science degrees are valuable to businesses.
eskamobob1
Running a business is far closer to running a country than doctoral research is though
Milchsteak
But it shows that you are not completly dumb and that you can work professional at an important job.
PeteButtigieg
Absolutely does not show that you can work professional at an important job. But definitely not completely dumb.
eskamobob1
Honestly man, im not sure it does. All of the phys profs I have had only cared about their research. Dont typicaly cominicate well either
cas86
Actually it doesn't, it shows you can suceed in academia not the real world. I worked with plenty of PhDs who couldn't survive in a real job
Milchsteak
Yeah but she can.
NotFarEnough
Ah, yes, the ol' compelling argument that the work academics do isn't 'real'
thisplaceisnotforyou
Filing for bankruptcy 6 times doesn't mean you have the knowledge to run a business or country either. At least she's good at physics.
TuggSpeedmann
The average millionaire goes bankrupt at least 3.5 times. capital gains is big risk - Big reward or big loss. 6 times is below average 1/2
TuggSpeedmann
2/2 for a billionaire. Trump has hundreds of investments. Plus CH11 bankruptcies aren't as bad as they sound. they can be smart.
thisplaceisnotforyou
It also doesn't begin to touch all the people who are successful in casinos, like even Sheldon Adelson.
thisplaceisnotforyou
Aside from that, he has taken on more debt and been sued more times than any other businessman. All arguments lead to failure.
thisplaceisnotforyou
Even if any of that were true, we can always refer to Trump U, steaks, vodka, mortgage company, airline, etc. Everything of his is shit.
TuggSpeedmann
Go look it up. And yes you can refer to any of his brand as shit but that's your opinion. Other people may actually like the brand.
thisplaceisnotforyou
Well my opinion and the opinion of the marketplace. So there's that.
msu14hockey
It means that you are capable of learning and understanding very complex issues...
eskamobob1
does it though? Because she still rejects science on some important complex issues
eskamobob1
Also, just kinda an FYI, high level physics is far more about how to do esoteric math than learning all of a lot of issues
Tunisia
Which requires being able to seek and assess evidence, recognise underlying causes and so on. Skills i want in a politician.
eskamobob1
Too bad even with her back ground she ignores the evidence and is anti GMO and nuclear power
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flakeOfDoom
Even assuming he's a shrewd power-grabber, this brings the issue of "the skills needed to gain power are not the same as those to govern -->
flakeOfDoom
--> effectively", especially when looking at something like the 2016 US presidential election.
flakeOfDoom
"Attack brutally, focus on weaknesses, craft a narrative" is a great plan to beat an opponent in politics, but it won't work against stuff->
Tunisia
If he does, he's using them cynically to promote a wilfully ignorant, anti-evidence policy platform and voter base.
malakim
You do not live in germany, do you? Whenever something happens, Merkels answer is to do nothing and wait (probably for peer review)
Goodmerlinpeen
Peer review, as in consult experts in the field? WHat a fucked up idea.
malakim
Thing is, Merkel generally is not waiting for peer review but for the next big crisis to push the old one out of the spotlight.
malakim
Take the whole Turkey situation for example. Germany and Merkel herself have been called Nazis for weeks now. Merkel just shunts the (1/2)
TearingAway
every country has their idiots, eh?
northcarolinaisbeststate
If the industrial revolution led to global warming, then wouldn't that mean the British created it?
ThousandCopyCats
Global warming is a hoax
AngryGroundhog
U.S. Is the #1 contributor historically. Trump Admin last week regarding climate change: "we're not spending money on that anymore". Christ.
AgolfHiller
Well they ruined the weather in London
eroso
Funny thing: sulfur emissions of UK caused the northern Europe to have colder winters until 90's when it was restricted. Yes, colder (+)
eroso
(+) - sulfur emissions are special bc they make the temperature go down.
AndrewPChapman
Then... I think we have our solution... more demons...
ThatsMySecretCapImAlwaysHorny
Or eat more boiled eggs to make those sulphury farts
AndrewPChapman
Yeah, I don't like boiled eggs, and some of those demons are pretty hot. Figure it was win-win.
khazorath
Nah, everyone just copied us
SvennGalley
That still doesn't make it a hoax.
Spikelf
What does it make it?
Fatherdoodle
Hopefully a sandwich. I'm hungry.
Spikelf
Haaaaaa take my upvote
Treblaine
And the Industrial Revolution jsut so happened to get started right after US War of Independence
davebeastly
Why else would we wiretap him? He's on to us.
ohmegatron
Naw the industrial revolution came about with Henry Ford's invention of the assembly line. So America.
houndfriedchicken
Uh, no.
payamsaid13
Nah it would mean they created a way to cause global warming more effectively. Ironically enough, they followed the idea behind the industr-
TheVainyKnight
If global warming is caused by efficiently then the Germans are to blame.
payamsaid13
ial revolution: effeciency
AgentNSFW
hippy80
She's letting the Devil OUT! KILL IT!
Assfullofbread
I love the one when she's eating a fish like a seal
northcarolinaisbeststate
Thank you. You did what I hoped someone would do
sangman
http://imgur.com/l9c6ytP.gifv
ProxyPlayerHD
sauce?
YoOmarsComin
,
AgentNSFW
whats dis +1
ChaosandChaos
User name is... appropriate?
TheFlyingTrapezoid
We can technically blame everything on the british. The Middle East is in disarray because of how Britain decided to break up Ottoman lands.
ireallycantthinkofanythingoriginal
The worst mistake made by the British was America, and that's saying a lot coming from an Irish person.
Binerexis
The middle east is arguably worse.
ireallycantthinkofanythingoriginal
That was kind of a joint effort by Europe to fuck up a place. America then came along later and threw rocks at the hornets nest.
nosquirrelbones
Yeah, the British paved the way for the U.S...never live that one down. Probably the worst of their evils.
Fleecemaster
Yeah, sorry about that
ChrisLucas1
The British and the French, if we're talking the border drawing after the collapse of the ottomans.
TheTastiestTampon
Holy shit, it's almost like the collapse of an empire has repercussions that echo for decades and centuries.
Binerexis
At least the Holy Roman Empire didn't leave too much of a scar.
doctorbees
Colonialism is a helluva drug.
Bertylicious
lol it was just a prank bro
SprinklesMckitten
Opium wars too
Binerexis
To be fair, we REALLY needed the money for tea.
Strongharbour432
Nothing quite like a good mandate land grab. Then They tossed it to the un when things got topsy turvey.
btraqnasty
If you want to blame someone for the east/west conflict that kind of starts with the Greeks and the Persians
KaneVel
A lot of messes in Africa are because of some borders the British and the French Drew pretty much.
Locolarue
Definitely. The competing tribes just keep fighting over control of the government.
KaneVel
I didn't say all of them.
Locolarue
Neither did I...?
hypnokrote
If the Ottomans had kept out of WWI they wouldn't have lost those lands to the Brits in the first place
TheFlyingTrapezoid
Well had that ass Gavrilo Princip not shot Franz Ferdinand, the alliance system wouldn't have forced everyone to war.
Aardvarksneedlove
There are other theories https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GIpm_8v80hw
ChrisLucas1
Just one of the many sparks that lead to war.
Sionas
You can just go down the chain until you get to the big bang. If the universe wasn't created.... Etc.
dohcohv
Pretty sure Europe was heading to war, they just needed an excuse, anything would do.
Strongharbour432
It was pretty much a big ol black power keg by that point. But what's better than a good ol family brawl?
Strongharbour432
And if Germany was never formed by Bismarck, then Wilheim wouldn't have been able to np give Austria the blank cheque...
SmellOfMonkey
Was that our fault too?
uzerok
German here: Not a fan of Merkel. I expected better energy and agriculture choices from someone with that kind of qualification. ->
GandalfTheOctarine
As A Dutchman, not a fan of Merkel either.
PeteTusk
And what government position would you appoint Trump to?
GandalfTheOctarine
Uhmmm... assistent janitor, maybe.
PeteTusk
And what government position would you appoint Trump to?
BigSnicker
Dude, they way national politician selection is working these days, thank your lucky stars for her every. single. day.
Thirdy
In Germany you got a democratic, federal parliamentary republic while in USA president, Congress, and federal courts share powers. got it?
Thirdy
Merkel nearly as much power as the presitent in the USA. The parties got the power in Germany, which you elect directly.
Spearka
I think it's more that she's restricted by red tape more than anything else; politics isn't a "do what you want" thing.
whereismyscotch
We will trade you. Orange man for yours.
jesusfuckingchristwhatnameisnttaken4
guess, what, if I don't like somebody's left/slant I can cherry pick a few mistakes they made as well. Those don't seem like huge issues.
uzerok
Oh, there are many other things: No equal rights for gays, never decriminalize pot, bank bailout, refugee policy and deal with Turkey...
stagg572
Fallacy being that the people under them make the overwhelming majority of policy. They are broad strokes.
uzerok
The Bundeskanzler decides who gets to make those policies though. They install and dismiss them. So poor choices are still poor choices.
stagg572
Obviously but Im saying that the minutia of most the decisions are poured over by underlings and staffers, not the leader.
beedoodlez
yeah ok except that u all are proficient in english(a 2nd language)&we still don't know how to count to 10 in espanol. european education >>
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pisto1peet
Care to explain? Asking for a friend.
PeteTusk
How do you feel about Trump?
ProxyPlayerHD
Nuclear Power~ is the way to go~ But i think we got other Problems before people can focus on better Reactors.
Penth13f
To be fair, germany's had WORSE leaders as well... ;)
DaedaIus
Communist institutions produce degrees, not well trained students.
JohnSmithterms
Be gratefull your %gdp spent on sci research is not american.
JamJarre
You wanna swap with Trump? Didn't think so
freezingpilot
But as a German, ask yourself, would you rather: Merkel, or Trump?
dasklaus
I wish we could just put her in front of another party. She's an amazing politician, but I disagree with her policies a lot.
NRubric
I don't think putting her in another party would change her policies that much. Alte Hunde und so...
dasklaus
She's perfectly willing to compromise for tactics or approval. She wouldn't even need to change her rhetorics, just the content.
dasklaus
To make it clear: I don't want to see her in a more right-wing position. I'm wary of those downvotes in light of some comments on this post.
dasklaus
*upvotes. I meant upvotes.
REV076
Having a degree in quantum physics doesn't qualify you as a good politician. (And no, I don't support Trump, nor Merkel)
frostybox
no but is shows you have a great capacity for learning and understanding. Trump is just an angry toddler who throws his own poo.
NRubric
Or just a great capacity to memorize lines from textbooks.
frostybox
yeah maybe for a doctorate in theater or something, you can't BS your way thru quantum chemistry
uzerok
Indeed. Seeing as how that scientific degree is used here to elevate her as a politician, I felt I had something to add to that.
forsale90
I agree, but at least it shows you are capable of understanding complex topics, which is a good starting point.
REV076
I doubt it. Her immigration, energy, and EU policy has been problematic for many Germans.
sogermanithurts
Bullshit
krazyleer
No bullshit at all
MostIndeedlySo
Hey, does Chancellor of Germany have term limits? I mean, Merkel's been in power as long as Hitler by now. I'm sorry but of all places...
NRubric
There are no term limits. When I was 16, Kohl resigned from his chancellorship after 15 years. I didn't knew a life with another Chancellor.
MostIndeedlySo
...Germany should be mandated to have a term limit of two for every political position.
uzerok
I agree. Many politicians become opportunistic career politicians and seem to lose all touch to reality.
Strongharbour432
We should have learned from Rome, but nooooo that would put work out!
Strongharbour432
*wouldnt
klenkidd
Do you even know any politicians? Personally? Like, from your city or communal council? Just curious.
uzerok
1 I joined the CDU (Merkel's party) when I was 18 in 2002 and left them again in 2006. I'm not sure about knowing personally, but I met
uzerok
4 On a communal level people feet are usually firmly on the ground, because they know their peers. But as you move higher up it becomes
uzerok
3 office. Except that mostly communal and city council members, helped campaigning and did some work for the local 'Young Union'.
uzerok
5 more and more difficult to find time and stay in touch with the actual voters. At least that's my impression of things. /end
uzerok
2 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stefan_Mappusppus">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stefan_Mappus> and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%BCnther_Oettinger before they had held their highest
uzerok
But no, GMO is bad, we must quit nuclear power, we must combat global warming but we must also build hundreds of new lignite power plants.->
v3rmilion
I was under the impression that she was submitting to the People's opinions on those things because iunno electorate
BYBT
Sometimes a politician has to do not what they believe is right but what the people want, and Menschen sind dumm, so thats what you get
iliketotravelandstuff
I was very upset with quitting nuclear power aswell. She just went with public opinion, I dont think she would have done it otherwise.
zeusdemigod131
I don't know German news, are you being sarcastic about things the government has done or are you serious?
uzerok
Personally I don't have anything against tested GMO. I don't hate nuclear and I think building coal power plants against CO2 is stupid.
uzerok
Fortunately they at least decided to stop the lignite nonsense and to keep it for emergency situations.
ITSMRTORGUEYELLINGSTUFF
Drei Upvotes für dich!
DasAtom
iirc the cdu tried to let nuclear power run longer than the spd decided prior. Then fukushima happened n they decided to quit it rather soon
aguacatedeldiablo
I'd love to have a president with a coherent enough agenda that I could effectively disagree with it
JoseDeLaNoWay
This.....exactly this.
AnaBlanco
I like the cut of your jib - three upvotes for you!
Steffn
Hundreds of new lignite power plants? What energy choices you don't like?
uzerok
1 Well, perhaps not hundreds. But lignite (brown coal) was their idea for supplying the base load while demanding lower CO2 emissions.
uzerok
2 Personally I think that nuclear phase-out is a bad move. Modern nuclear power plants are a good solution for the base load.
Steffn
where nuclear power plants are rather bad. I think it's a good move to replace conventional power plants by renewables.
uzerok
I don't think so. Renewables are great for localized application, but for the base load inflexible but reliable is the best choice.
Steffn
But base load is losing more and more importance with a high share of renewables. It's more important to have flexible power plants,
TheBurritoConfederacy
As long as you can come up with grid-scale energy storage (battery, pumped hydro, etc.) to handle fluctuations in your renewables.
DrSparken
Renewables which don't work too often. Nuclear can provide sufficient base load to make the renewables redundant just as cleanly.
jesusfuckingchristwhatnameisnttaken4
I agree with Merkel on those things, and there are problems with GMO not related to the science, Nuclear is not 'clean" And "lignite" /1
jesusfuckingchristwhatnameisnttaken4
isn't really being used. /2
Steffn
Most energy is produced by lignite, why do you think it isn't really beeing used?
Walfas
Nuclear energy is cleaner than pretty much everything except geothermal, wind, hydro and tidal. Many times more versatile too.
DrSparken
Arguable whether those are cleaner either with significantly more construction involved for the same generation capacity. And nuclear 1/
DrSparken
has killed less than any of them, even trying to include as many deaths as reasonably possible in Chernobyl. 2/2
uzerok
Nuclear doesn't have a good rep here in Germany. Especially after Fukushima most of the media made it look like the work of the devil.
Walfas
Yaaaay media. They ruin everything.
Thornaxe
What are your issues with GMOs?
Maraak
"Muh monsanto!" I'm guessin' :/
luxiem
Learn something https://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/10/30/business/gmo-promise-falls-short.html
luxiem
How dare we not trust the company that claimed agent orange was safe!
luxiem
The way they patent seeds, or the way their seeds are destroying heirloom crops and hampering biodiversity. Lots of realistic concerns exist
Addman0
Also farming itself is the problem to biodiversity the best way to fix biodiversity just reduce the amount of area used for farming (3/4)
Addman0
But GMO not the problem but one of many multi-pronged pronged solutions
uzerok
Who is 'they'? Monsanto? By that logic we should have abandoned all medicine because Josef Mengele was a physician.
Addman0
Which the best was to do tht is to increase crop yield which GMO has done Now GMO isnt a savings Grace farms practces still need to be fix
Addman0
Heirloom aren't a scientific term but a marketing term. GMO tech and other breedin techniques have increased the selection for Farmers (2/3)
Thornaxe
If they can't patent/sell the seed technology then they can't/won't develop it, leaving various innovations unavailable.
Addman0
But you can patent any type of seed including non-gmo. Something the seed industry has been doing for almost a 100 years. (1/2)
Robindino17
Well we don't know the long term effects of GMO crop consumption which is a fair point against them.
uzerok
1 Almost nothing we eat today has its original genetic code. We humans have been modifying the crops we eat for thousands of years using
uzerok
2 random mutations and selective breeding. None of that stuff is natural. So unless you believe in magic, odds are that there won't be many
uzerok
3 surprises down the road when it comes to 'tested' GMO.
Robindino17
True but that is using genes from the plants, when using genes from bacteria it is different to my opinion. I do agree it is low-risk.
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1 Genes are just molecules, built from atoms. Natural mutation could cause the same thing. GMO is nothing supernatural here. If you
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2 introduce incompatible genes into a cell, that cell will die. If they're compatible the cells 'may' thrive. I can agree that something
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3 like this has to be judged on a case by case basis. Because just like in nature the results are neither inherently good nor bad.