Feb 11, 2017 5:35 PM
BointToist
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surprisemotherfuckers
I thought the same thing of my friend who wanted to become a youtuber, not that he succeeded or anything its just concerning
JustHereForTheRiots
lawlphailure
If he's winning, and building a record for himself, then go for it. Winning a Pro Tour is worth a decent stack. Otherwise, no.
phizatmatt
alternatereality543
Counter that.
theittybittyhissyfitcommitteekitty
CurryBear
How long has he been playing? What is his highest achievement of the game? Who does he play with?
GreekTrojan
Pursue it during school. If he doesn't have the discipline to do it around classes/reschedule, he won't have the discipline to be a pro.
shuttlecockinakumquat
Unless his local scene just isn't that good, I don't see why he'd drop out to pursue this rather than do both.
bigassdolphin
So he's commuting to shriveling ovaries with his scent alone?
BardicLasher
He knows that all the pro players either write articles or stream regularly, yes? Tournaments alone aren't profitable enough.
theironWombat
Hey man, cock magic can be lucrative if you've got the right birds for it
That reference was awesome haha
garbenzoe
Is that even a real option?
lakesidehunter
That.... that's a thing people can do?
Lugh314159
Yes…technically. But your chances of making a living off of it are about as good as going pro-athlete; but with a much shorter job life
Sort of. If you win enough tournaments, you get alright prize money, but you have to supplement it by streaming and by writing articles.
zertmaster
BroTheElf
CodePurple
Kimozabi
Oh, did he not pick from the pre approved list of acceptable dreams to follow?
He didn't pick a viable dream. There's not enough tournament rewards. Even the best players still have jobs (often writing MtG articles.)
TehRap
Have him read some of the articles written by people who did that. They describe in detail how the pro circuit is not meant for that
deadasadodomakethatanonoeverycreatureweinsisthastherighttoexist
PvtDairyCreamer
homeless-ness in his future i see
agilbert390
kaovalin
Happy, expensive accidents
weastside
TacticalEtching
I knew a cadet (in ROTC and the National Guard simultaneously to become an officer) who was going to quit to become a pro Heely shoe racer.
Ragswolf
That's a thing? TIL
snomang
As long as he pays the bills. MTG is so expensive.... esp if you keep up with the new cards every few months. Tell him to waste his money on
HitlersArtCritic
being an artist by painting for a living, and eventually going to art school because that works out for everyone.
bigdaddyfatpants
azrx
ASAPHockey
Somebody make a "Concern" meme with this guy please
Caffinator
Yes! I was waiting for this reply.
johncolt
if they pay their part of the rent...
He said if worse comes to worse I can just sell a few good cards for rent. o_e
Orcus424
I knew a guy who ended up having to do that. He dropped out of college because he was spending too much time and cash on Magic.
Felextheminimal
yeah, to get to the point where selling cards to pay rent happens, they've already lost
circlebreaker
@BointToist Does he have Alpha & Beta rares or what? Ask him, he'll know what that means. Tell him prostitution had better be Plan B.
MistressLyda
And he should most likely have a plan C also, unless he is gay or at very least flexible.
somejerktookmyusualusername
I'm all for following dreams but he could get a part time job that would pay him enough to pay the rent/food/utilities.
I'm working now while doing full time graduate level work, I don't sleep much but I'm able to pay for necessities. It's hard work to do...
..both yea, but that's life. It sounds more like he just doesn't want to be responsible while doing this. Don't let him screw you over OP.
Ramapo
Unless he has some seriously rare cards... No he cannot.
Thiccc
Yes, that is a '"seriously rare" card but it's unlikely that he owns one although possible I guess.
MyFrontPorchInMississippi
I have more than one decks worth a grand. So yeah he can.
Rent for a year is anywhere from a few grand to over 10k if he's in uni housing. Thus he would need to sell a few of those grand+ decks...
Or a few seriously rare cards.
I'm assuming he meant month rent not year.
LordThursday
You usually establish yourself first and then get a journalism deal with a website. Has he won tournaments and stuff yet?
theodd1sout
I dropped out of school to do YouTube, but that was only after I was making enough money to support myself (I'm not helping)
Pishposhbingbong
Screw all that, I mean, sure what you said is all damn important but we have to cover fundamentals. OP. How bountiful is his arse cleavage?
Eichimaru
Bountiful arse cleavage. Beautiful.
SpecialContainmentProcedures
Don't encourage him.
QuizabellaOfBrain
I appreciate the realistic tone with which you're approaching a somewhat unrealistic dream. My oldest friend hasn't given up on writing 1/
2/told her at 14 that she'd need a career that would support her while she made her name. We're both out of college, working, still writing.
Tubzilla
Oh c'mon we actually entertaining this idea?
bendap
I don't know anything about magic, but people used to say the same thing about gaming. Last tourney a team made 4.3 mill off of stickers.
elpher
Honestly, people do it, but like most stuff like that, it's not a one-track gig. Your job is player/writer/commentator/promoter/etc.
Nykidemus
It's a doable career path, but you have to be real damn good, and more than likely you wont sustain yourself on winnings, but writing.
Timstonman
What do you write about if you are going into the profession?
MarxAvenger
Card analysis, meta analysis, WotC policy changes, card price prediction, deck brews, and sideboard recommendations to name a few.
tankmemes
As someone clueless on the subject that is way more than I would have thought and is very cool.
I mean all those websites, Starcitygames, mtggoldfish, employ a small staff of managers and content creators. It ain't bad work.
ChrisTallant
I used to write for star city back in the day.. they have some good folks writing for them.
Oh cool. What years and what was it like?
Back in 02-03.. I first won a contest for parodying Eminem's "Lose Yourself" into a mtg song called "Use Your Wrath." They paid in dualland!
Well then twinkle my fanny pack good luck to him
Apollo1989
you look at pro earning and it usually peaks at 100k career total(from tournament prizes) you need a team and website to make a living
LC18
I have a friend who writes occasionally for Star City Games, and he's won professional tournaments, but it's not enough to replace his job.
seancrouse1
Todd?
1snowwolf1
Wait like in roanoke
EchoOfSnac
Yep. I used to visit a lot with friends. I need to go back with them sometime.
Huh, neat. Now here's the long shot, did you go to school at William Byrd
I live in another county. My friends all visited Roanoke because it was the only place with tournaments, but there is a guy trying to →
dmax12
Hell though, if I could at least make money off my hobby in order to finance my hobby, that would be cool
SnookerSylph
That's why pool is great. I go in and play some cash games, then join a tourny or a league and it'll pay for gas and new cues/table time
blacknsilver86
Fucking rook, I make enough at pool to pay off all m-...nah I'm just kidding I suck at pool. Good for you though.
We've got guys at the local hall in there daily playing $500/game for hours and hours lol
TheMadDawgAndJoeDan
Dis
JayEnfield
As an artist who does commissions from time to time it's a good deal. "Hey, you want to pay for a tiny fraction of my expensive shit? Nice."
YooooooooImHereNow
Dos
GoCorral
My friend did this. He made Pro Tour one time and got a job at a card shop. Not full blown success, but no regrets.
Looking for a job at a card shop for now have a volunteering gig and I'm getting payed in cards so I guess it's the same (I'm in high schol)
mechanimated
My friends shitty ex spent all his fucking money on magic cards and when she questioned his financial choices he berated her for being a /1
imasnorlaxIRL
Unless the guy has a black lotus or some shit he's a giant cunt.
it wouldn't matter if he did, since he kept all his precious, valuable cards in trodden-on piles scattered around his filthy mattress
stupid girl who doesn't GET IT because those cards were gonna be worth MONEY someday oh my GOD. Yeah he's homeless now sooo... /2
mareli82
well in the long run you might earn a bit on card's
5P4RK4
http://www.mtgstocks.com/cards/5855 My 2 playsets of Chalice of the Voids are looking like a pretty good investment now.
moogloogle
Good on her for making him an ex.
spiderqueendemon
I had a friend who had an identically shitty ex! He's in prison now. I'm starting to wonder if maybe MTG can be abused like drugs.
Abrausedteleprot
it's only half jokingly refered to as cardboard crack for a reason...
Many things can be abused like drugs. Obsession is a foolish thing, everything in moderation. Except cake. Cake is good.
Cake is excellent. I recently made a spice cake and used a blend of cinnamon and ginger to flour the pan. Came out pretty well.
Wuhaa
Of all the things to pursue, that's a mighty expensive one.
you ain't lyin'
BeerChemistWhiskey
Pay to play
Flyndaran
Not as bad as Warhammer, I hear.
You only buy your WH army once and make minor additions/subtractions over decades. You have to re-buy your MtG decks every ~3 months.
NickFurryTheSecond
In addition to what Stoatdota said, the miniatures don't rotate out of usefulness as quickly as the cards do.
LeviathanOmega
Actually it gets better. Miniatures for the most part don't rotate out at all. There is no ban list. And there is no spike in demand.
End of the day there's people who use RT era Marines from the 1980s still. Perfectly fine and their armaments are perfectly legal as well.
Do you want to buy a car or $T4KS? One of my friends traded a modern affinity deck for a grand and two decent guitars once.
Affinity is such a good deck and has been for so long. Unlike a lot of other modern decks which got targetted bans.
TheSwedishCryptid
Oh at first I read that as 1002 decent guitars instead of 1000$ and 2 guitars.
Bloodcircus
When I quit I sold my shit and got enough for most of a car
Koshunae
I have like 2000 mana cards alone. I dont even play. My brother gave them to me when he quit. What should I do with all these cards?
Skanah
Send them to me
GentlemanScientist
After spending most of two cars to get it.
What if the 1 car is worth more than the 2 cars?
Blackninga
When did that trade happen? Sounds eerily similar to when I bought a modern affinity deck off my friend for a bass, a guitar, and ~$700...
Last summer. New York area.
That's when where mine was... Anything noteworthy about the deck, friend, specific location, you don't mind sharing here?
Yeah we're talking about the same person. It's so weird, the world is a small place, even on the Internet.
FitzChevalric
ReleaseThePasta
I love these!
InvaderCristi
voss10
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Woah, neat. Although I think I prefer the still one :) The blinking and flashing is a little too jarring
Just thought I'd share for the collection
Party on then, friend! ^^
Dubbaah
Here we go again
SemiVirtuous
*fedora*
DoublevBomb
Wait, is that the guy that went around a Magic tournament taking selfies with all the fat guy ass cracks?
Cosmic77
it is, which makes the picture even more relevant
I don't have a joke to go with this, but it's card-related: http://imgur.com/wKo6M4V
braginskyy
Welp, found the Underfag.
DarthFutuza
Oh look its the Legend of Link.
surprisemotherfuckers
I thought the same thing of my friend who wanted to become a youtuber, not that he succeeded or anything its just concerning
JustHereForTheRiots
lawlphailure
If he's winning, and building a record for himself, then go for it. Winning a Pro Tour is worth a decent stack. Otherwise, no.
phizatmatt
alternatereality543
Counter that.
theittybittyhissyfitcommitteekitty
CurryBear
How long has he been playing? What is his highest achievement of the game? Who does he play with?
GreekTrojan
Pursue it during school. If he doesn't have the discipline to do it around classes/reschedule, he won't have the discipline to be a pro.
shuttlecockinakumquat
Unless his local scene just isn't that good, I don't see why he'd drop out to pursue this rather than do both.
bigassdolphin
So he's commuting to shriveling ovaries with his scent alone?
BardicLasher
He knows that all the pro players either write articles or stream regularly, yes? Tournaments alone aren't profitable enough.
theironWombat
Hey man, cock magic can be lucrative if you've got the right birds for it
BointToist
That reference was awesome haha
garbenzoe
Is that even a real option?
lakesidehunter
Lugh314159
Yes…technically. But your chances of making a living off of it are about as good as going pro-athlete; but with a much shorter job life
BardicLasher
Sort of. If you win enough tournaments, you get alright prize money, but you have to supplement it by streaming and by writing articles.
BardicLasher
Sort of. If you win enough tournaments, you get alright prize money, but you have to supplement it by streaming and by writing articles.
zertmaster
BroTheElf
CodePurple
Kimozabi
Oh, did he not pick from the pre approved list of acceptable dreams to follow?
BardicLasher
He didn't pick a viable dream. There's not enough tournament rewards. Even the best players still have jobs (often writing MtG articles.)
TehRap
Have him read some of the articles written by people who did that. They describe in detail how the pro circuit is not meant for that
deadasadodomakethatanonoeverycreatureweinsisthastherighttoexist
PvtDairyCreamer
homeless-ness in his future i see
agilbert390
kaovalin
Happy, expensive accidents
weastside
TacticalEtching
I knew a cadet (in ROTC and the National Guard simultaneously to become an officer) who was going to quit to become a pro Heely shoe racer.
Ragswolf
That's a thing? TIL
snomang
As long as he pays the bills. MTG is so expensive.... esp if you keep up with the new cards every few months. Tell him to waste his money on
HitlersArtCritic
being an artist by painting for a living, and eventually going to art school because that works out for everyone.
bigdaddyfatpants
azrx
ASAPHockey
Somebody make a "Concern" meme with this guy please
Caffinator
Yes! I was waiting for this reply.
johncolt
if they pay their part of the rent...
BointToist
He said if worse comes to worse I can just sell a few good cards for rent. o_e
Orcus424
I knew a guy who ended up having to do that. He dropped out of college because he was spending too much time and cash on Magic.
Felextheminimal
yeah, to get to the point where selling cards to pay rent happens, they've already lost
circlebreaker
@BointToist Does he have Alpha & Beta rares or what? Ask him, he'll know what that means. Tell him prostitution had better be Plan B.
MistressLyda
And he should most likely have a plan C also, unless he is gay or at very least flexible.
somejerktookmyusualusername
I'm all for following dreams but he could get a part time job that would pay him enough to pay the rent/food/utilities.
somejerktookmyusualusername
I'm working now while doing full time graduate level work, I don't sleep much but I'm able to pay for necessities. It's hard work to do...
somejerktookmyusualusername
..both yea, but that's life. It sounds more like he just doesn't want to be responsible while doing this. Don't let him screw you over OP.
Ramapo
Unless he has some seriously rare cards... No he cannot.
Thiccc
Ramapo
Yes, that is a '"seriously rare" card but it's unlikely that he owns one although possible I guess.
MyFrontPorchInMississippi
I have more than one decks worth a grand. So yeah he can.
Ramapo
Rent for a year is anywhere from a few grand to over 10k if he's in uni housing. Thus he would need to sell a few of those grand+ decks...
Ramapo
Or a few seriously rare cards.
MyFrontPorchInMississippi
I'm assuming he meant month rent not year.
LordThursday
You usually establish yourself first and then get a journalism deal with a website. Has he won tournaments and stuff yet?
theodd1sout
I dropped out of school to do YouTube, but that was only after I was making enough money to support myself (I'm not helping)
Pishposhbingbong
Screw all that, I mean, sure what you said is all damn important but we have to cover fundamentals. OP. How bountiful is his arse cleavage?
Eichimaru
Bountiful arse cleavage. Beautiful.
SpecialContainmentProcedures
Don't encourage him.
QuizabellaOfBrain
I appreciate the realistic tone with which you're approaching a somewhat unrealistic dream. My oldest friend hasn't given up on writing 1/
QuizabellaOfBrain
2/told her at 14 that she'd need a career that would support her while she made her name. We're both out of college, working, still writing.
Tubzilla
Oh c'mon we actually entertaining this idea?
bendap
I don't know anything about magic, but people used to say the same thing about gaming. Last tourney a team made 4.3 mill off of stickers.
elpher
Honestly, people do it, but like most stuff like that, it's not a one-track gig. Your job is player/writer/commentator/promoter/etc.
Nykidemus
It's a doable career path, but you have to be real damn good, and more than likely you wont sustain yourself on winnings, but writing.
Timstonman
What do you write about if you are going into the profession?
MarxAvenger
Card analysis, meta analysis, WotC policy changes, card price prediction, deck brews, and sideboard recommendations to name a few.
tankmemes
As someone clueless on the subject that is way more than I would have thought and is very cool.
LordThursday
I mean all those websites, Starcitygames, mtggoldfish, employ a small staff of managers and content creators. It ain't bad work.
ChrisTallant
I used to write for star city back in the day.. they have some good folks writing for them.
LordThursday
Oh cool. What years and what was it like?
ChrisTallant
Back in 02-03.. I first won a contest for parodying Eminem's "Lose Yourself" into a mtg song called "Use Your Wrath." They paid in dualland!
Tubzilla
Well then twinkle my fanny pack good luck to him
Apollo1989
you look at pro earning and it usually peaks at 100k career total(from tournament prizes) you need a team and website to make a living
LC18
I have a friend who writes occasionally for Star City Games, and he's won professional tournaments, but it's not enough to replace his job.
seancrouse1
Todd?
1snowwolf1
Wait like in roanoke
EchoOfSnac
Yep. I used to visit a lot with friends. I need to go back with them sometime.
1snowwolf1
Huh, neat. Now here's the long shot, did you go to school at William Byrd
EchoOfSnac
I live in another county. My friends all visited Roanoke because it was the only place with tournaments, but there is a guy trying to →
dmax12
Hell though, if I could at least make money off my hobby in order to finance my hobby, that would be cool
SnookerSylph
That's why pool is great. I go in and play some cash games, then join a tourny or a league and it'll pay for gas and new cues/table time
blacknsilver86
Fucking rook, I make enough at pool to pay off all m-...nah I'm just kidding I suck at pool. Good for you though.
SnookerSylph
We've got guys at the local hall in there daily playing $500/game for hours and hours lol
TheMadDawgAndJoeDan
Dis
JayEnfield
As an artist who does commissions from time to time it's a good deal. "Hey, you want to pay for a tiny fraction of my expensive shit? Nice."
JayEnfield
As an artist who does commissions from time to time it's a good deal. "Hey, you want to pay for a tiny fraction of my expensive shit? Nice."
TheMadDawgAndJoeDan
Dis
YooooooooImHereNow
Dos
GoCorral
My friend did this. He made Pro Tour one time and got a job at a card shop. Not full blown success, but no regrets.
YooooooooImHereNow
Looking for a job at a card shop for now have a volunteering gig and I'm getting payed in cards so I guess it's the same (I'm in high schol)
mechanimated
My friends shitty ex spent all his fucking money on magic cards and when she questioned his financial choices he berated her for being a /1
imasnorlaxIRL
Unless the guy has a black lotus or some shit he's a giant cunt.
mechanimated
it wouldn't matter if he did, since he kept all his precious, valuable cards in trodden-on piles scattered around his filthy mattress
mechanimated
stupid girl who doesn't GET IT because those cards were gonna be worth MONEY someday oh my GOD. Yeah he's homeless now sooo... /2
mareli82
well in the long run you might earn a bit on card's
5P4RK4
http://www.mtgstocks.com/cards/5855 My 2 playsets of Chalice of the Voids are looking like a pretty good investment now.
moogloogle
Good on her for making him an ex.
spiderqueendemon
I had a friend who had an identically shitty ex! He's in prison now. I'm starting to wonder if maybe MTG can be abused like drugs.
Abrausedteleprot
it's only half jokingly refered to as cardboard crack for a reason...
moogloogle
Many things can be abused like drugs. Obsession is a foolish thing, everything in moderation. Except cake. Cake is good.
spiderqueendemon
Cake is excellent. I recently made a spice cake and used a blend of cinnamon and ginger to flour the pan. Came out pretty well.
Wuhaa
Of all the things to pursue, that's a mighty expensive one.
Felextheminimal
you ain't lyin'
BeerChemistWhiskey
Pay to play
Flyndaran
Not as bad as Warhammer, I hear.
shuttlecockinakumquat
You only buy your WH army once and make minor additions/subtractions over decades. You have to re-buy your MtG decks every ~3 months.
NickFurryTheSecond
In addition to what Stoatdota said, the miniatures don't rotate out of usefulness as quickly as the cards do.
LeviathanOmega
Actually it gets better. Miniatures for the most part don't rotate out at all. There is no ban list. And there is no spike in demand.
LeviathanOmega
End of the day there's people who use RT era Marines from the 1980s still. Perfectly fine and their armaments are perfectly legal as well.
LordThursday
Do you want to buy a car or $T4KS? One of my friends traded a modern affinity deck for a grand and two decent guitars once.
5P4RK4
Affinity is such a good deck and has been for so long. Unlike a lot of other modern decks which got targetted bans.
TheSwedishCryptid
Oh at first I read that as 1002 decent guitars instead of 1000$ and 2 guitars.
Bloodcircus
When I quit I sold my shit and got enough for most of a car
Koshunae
I have like 2000 mana cards alone. I dont even play. My brother gave them to me when he quit. What should I do with all these cards?
Skanah
Send them to me
GentlemanScientist
After spending most of two cars to get it.
Koshunae
What if the 1 car is worth more than the 2 cars?
Blackninga
When did that trade happen? Sounds eerily similar to when I bought a modern affinity deck off my friend for a bass, a guitar, and ~$700...
LordThursday
Last summer. New York area.
Blackninga
That's when where mine was... Anything noteworthy about the deck, friend, specific location, you don't mind sharing here?
LordThursday
Yeah we're talking about the same person. It's so weird, the world is a small place, even on the Internet.
FitzChevalric
ReleaseThePasta
I love these!
deadasadodomakethatanonoeverycreatureweinsisthastherighttoexist
InvaderCristi
voss10
InvaderCristi
Woah, neat. Although I think I prefer the still one :) The blinking and flashing is a little too jarring
voss10
Just thought I'd share for the collection
InvaderCristi
Party on then, friend! ^^
Dubbaah
Here we go again
SemiVirtuous
*fedora*
DoublevBomb
Wait, is that the guy that went around a Magic tournament taking selfies with all the fat guy ass cracks?
Cosmic77
it is, which makes the picture even more relevant
DoublevBomb
I don't have a joke to go with this, but it's card-related: http://imgur.com/wKo6M4V
Dubbaah
Dubbaah
braginskyy
Welp, found the Underfag.
Dubbaah
DarthFutuza
Oh look its the Legend of Link.
Dubbaah