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In October 2003, Jobs was diagnosed with cancer. In mid-2004, he announced to his employees that he had a cancerous tumor in his pancreas. The prognosis for pancreatic cancer is usually very poor; Jobs stated that he had a rare, much less aggressive type, known as islet cell neuroendocrine tumor.
Despite his diagnosis, Jobs resisted his doctors' recommendations for medical intervention for nine months, instead relying on a pseudo-medicine to try natural healing to thwart the disease. According to Harvard researcher Ramzi Amri, his choice of alternative treatment "led to an unnecessarily early death". Cancer researcher and alternative medicine critic David Gorski disagreed with Amri's assessment, saying, "My best guess was that Jobs probably only modestly decreased his chances of survival, if that." Barrie R. Cassileth, the chief of Memorial Sloan Kettering Cancer Center's integrative medicine department, said, "Jobs's faith in alternative medicine likely cost him his life.... He had the only kind of pancreatic cancer that is treatable and curable.... He essentially committed suicide."
TL;DR: Jobs had treatable cancer, chose head massage, herbal tea and whale music over medical science.
upvotehypnotoad
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jackrupley
That makes him an idiot, no matter how much money he had. Stupid is stupid.
FishSausages
Didn't he jump the transplant line at the end, too?
tooL8
Dude died with 30,000,000,000 U$D in his account. Idiot. Should have "designed" an anti-cancer drug, not the next shitty iphone. Fools die.
Darthajack
Being a visionary doesn't mean you can't be superstitious or have other wrong beliefs.
Hagge47
Suicide by ignorance.
owlest
the doctors just hate him because he used one simple trick to not pay them millions for chemo
Tachyon000
Yeah, fuck the guy who tried to ensure his last years on Earth weren't spent dealing with the shitty side effects from cancer treatment.
Nightbringer0
I worked for Apple when he died. The tone of the company went down hill real fast after he died. I never liked their product though.
sambaloelek
Fuck Steve Jobs. Horrible human being
MCMords
My Dad recently recovered from an aggressive cancer through massive chemo doses and is now PERFECTLY FINE 1 + 1/2 years later; JOBS = FOOL.
yomancs
No one is saying he's smart
Bowl0f0ranges
K. Thats his life, not yours.
cleverbeans
It's a good cautionary tale. Don't let your ego make stupid decisions for you. He regretted it and spoke about that regret before he died.
bl0ke
That's the consequence of having non-user-serviceable parts.
0x1CEB00DA
leeched off genius inventors like Steve Wozniak and others, was practically Homer Simpson in a tech company
DohngSohng
Well you got to hand it to him, he lived his life the way he dammed pleased
iamtheonlyrealwizard
Guy was fairly crazy, most notably: thought eating fruit eliminated the need to shower, washing feet in public toilets.
DirtyRotter
Well he was damned
DohngSohng
He's probably been deitified into some kind of Buddha in whatever life after death he believed in
SirMuffinCat
I hate Steve Jobs with a passion.
frosty147
He also got his girlfriend pregnant and then abandoned her and his daughter. I don't know why some people worship him.
MeisterKleister
Before actually reading his biography, all I knew about him was that amazing Stanford speech he gave. I now know better.
digitalist1
Most tech companies are evil and run by sociopaths. They sell this "I'm making the world a better place" stick, but profit off of children.
Splosions
My father was diagnosed with bladder cancer, Dr wasn't in the least bit worried. I asked, since when is cancer not something to worry about1
Splosions
Turns out bladder cancer is child's play now. Stick a tube up your dick and pump in tuberculosis, it eats cancer. Go figure.
CookingBaconDrunkAndNaked
My father had bladder cancer that was aggressive and spread quick, he passed in Dec. All bladder cancer is different. Happy you were lucky
gerdygerdygerdy
modern medicine usually has far more debilitating side affects than just doing nothing. he chose hope and comfort care, which is fine, and
neuromanswer
Wow someone who makes sense here
Trollingstoned
If the story is true, he had a curable cancer. Which means the side effects are worth it. For terminal cases one might be wiser to let go.
gerdygerdygerdy
I'm sure he was also aware that it might not work. Which is fine also.
baconsmellsreallygood
But it's popular to hate on Jobs though. Even without knowing his complete medical situation. /sarcasm
VinnieJonesDiary
"he chose hope" no he didn't, he throw away his only hope by rejecting what could actually save him, he chose lies and death.
falconsblewa25pointlead
Ya, but why is he wearing a dress?
ratfaceddog
Nobody wants to see him naked.
justahumanonline
he also had the resources to be placed on 2 donor lists for a liver, he ended up flying out to Tennessee for a transplant.
justahumanonline
nytimes.com/2009/06/23/business/23liver.html?ref=technology
Deeaitchpee
My grandma had pancreatic cancer. I wish the doctors didn't treat her.
incumbustable
Why is that?
Deeaitchpee
It was pointless and gave her pain. 1/ she got chemo, 2/ they cut her stomach wide open to look inside to see if they can cut it out.
kimipw
I started at Apple in 2010, three days before he passed away, during our big semi-annual AppleCare celebration for great employees.
kimipw
Tim Cook, but it didn't carry the same weight or importance. I hear he wasn't nice, but I still wanted the chance, y'know?
kimipw
Filled with crying employees, and I've always felt a little burned that I didn't even have the chance to meet him. I later got to meet
kimipw
We were in a mid-morning meeting when it was announced, and I've never seen balloons and celebration shut down so quickly. The ATX site was
baconsmellsreallygood
How did older employee's feel about him? Is it true that he refused to shower? I have another small # of questions.
kimipw
Everyone I worked with was pretty loyal and hadn't worked with him in tight quarters. We were support - far removed from the top.
garbagegarbagegarbage
I would not go through chemo and radiation if i were to be diagnosed with cancer. Thats my choice. If that makes me stupid, so be it.
baconsmellsreallygood
Depends what Doctors would think the chance of my survival would be. If there was a greater chance of dying even with treatment (1)
baconsmellsreallygood
I would rather prefer to check out on my own terms. If I had a fighting chance then I would consider going through treatment (2)
ProfessorSandwich
I'm a cancer survivor. Had chemo and radiation for 6 months. Wouldn't have lived to age 9. Now I'm 34
garbagegarbagegarbage
I hope i didnt offend you. I am happy for your health and the medical technology you had access to. Just my personal choice. Be well.
ProfessorSandwich
If you ever do end up in that situation, all regimens aren't equal. Diagnoses are very different. A simple, easy treatment with 99% cure 1/?
ProfessorSandwich
Rate is different than a terminal diagnosis. The word chemotherapy gets throw around a lot, but very different depending on your 2/3
ProfessorSandwich
Diagnosis
ProfessorSandwich
But no, didn't offend me at all. :). Lets just hope you die at 100 of natural causes 3/3
WontSomeonePleaseThinkOfTheChildren
Ok. But damn you fuckers can be shitty. Hate Apple? Fine. Don't fucking say "neener" over a man's death.
Igottalottacheese
I had the exact same cancer as he did. I 'easily' survived. I'm not saying 'neener' but I am calling him a dumbass.
penguin002
when shitty moneyhungry people make Exceptionally stupid ideas that get them killed, i'm gonna point and laugh. because that's Karma.
zma123456
He was a pretty shitty person. A fantastic businessman, but a shitty guy.
INeverThoughtIdMakeThisAccount
I think it's more the "Wow that choice was DUMB, he could be here if not for that," paired with the fact that he wasn't a very nice person.
PAPASQUATT
Neener
DukePhelan
He was a cunt, who choose a stupid treatment plan against modern medical advice and died from hubris . Fuck him.
NextineX
People say "neener" over darwin award winners all the time. Jobs killed himself by doing something stupid.
Groznek
I kinda find the darwin awards thing kinda creepy too.
wantednokes
Steve Jobs was not a genius
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wantednokes
correlation is not causation
bougie
His genius was in design and functionality. It turns out that's what people want in their devices.
marsupialsrus
His genius was in driving teams whose purpose was design and functionality innovation.
bougie
Congratulations you've defined the job of CEO. Oh and btw he was more hands on than almost any other CEO.
DickDastardly404
Steve Jobs was a cunt and a psychopath. He made his money just about as dishonestly as he could, and didn't give a fuck who he hurt 1/2
DickDastardly404
Along the way. I don't say this about many people, but cancer did the world a favour in this case, and the fact that he let it kill 1.5/2
DickDastardly404
kill him by a process of pure arrogance and stupidity just goes to show how entirety his self obsession consumed him. Fuck him. 2/2
2to3inchesofmanhood
There is a joke here nobody is getting our maybe just not mentioning
2to3inchesofmanhood
Or* autocorrect
VonOhlnhausen
He was an asshole, even to himself.
ewokkid01
he was mainly a major asshole.
Oscarwildebastardson
Actually the man was a genius. An asshole and other sorts. But a genius nonetheless. He had a vision and he build on it That's makes him one
YourMomsNewBoyfriend
I know this is low hanging fruit, but so did hitler and your logic sucks ass
GlitterInTheDarkNearTheTannhauserGate
What's wrong with the logic? Hitler was a really really good politician and public speaker, you have to find credit where it's due
BubblesSayingDecent
Actually being a genius makes you a genius.
Spacebandit
I think he was a genius. Look at him wearing sandles with socks
ratfaceddog
*candles
Spacebandit
A genius would say sandals
seaurchinparty
He was good at stealing other people's ideas, taking full credit, and repackaging them to the masses.
SephiRothIRA
Welcome to the history of the computer industry!
fleacollerindustry
People act like Jobs totally stole Woz's work, but Woz used Jobs just as much as Jobs used Woz. Woz's tears at Jobs' death were legit.
aguacatedeldiablo
Jobs had a type of genius, it just isn't the type of genius he's typically given credit for. Jobs knew when something wasn't done yet. It 1/
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aguacatedeldiablo
2 sounds simple, but he was uncompromising and relentless in pursuing something that made sense. Love or hate Apple products, you can't deny
aguacatedeldiablo
3 they were the first ones to get a lot of good ideas right.
penguin002
i can infact deny that, because getting something popular and getting something Right are 2 violently different things.
CristhianIR
boobs675309
I disagree. I think he was genius at developing a good user experience. People really love their iphones and ipads and shit.
EarlGreyOrDeath
Apple: when it works, it works great. When it doesn't work, you are absolutely fucked.
MERGATROYDER
He was a designer. He saw a need for something, and got someone to do it for him. Genius? No. Visionary? Debatable. Star Trek did it first.
causality
The only difference between the iPhone UI and the Palm UI was that Apple did theirs after capacitive touchscreens were affordable.
IDidntKnowWhattoMakeMyUsernameSoIMadeThis
I don't know what more it would take then to be a genius if he wasn't
YourMomsNewBoyfriend
Idk maybe being in the genius iq range?
Deadmanwalkn
Not taking a side on jobs, but IQ is actually now considered a terrible way to measure intelligence
GRex2595
The "IQ test" was never intended to determine a person's intelligence, only to determine how well they would perform in school.
YourMomsNewBoyfriend
IDidntKnowWhattoMakeMyUsernameSoIMadeThis
I thought it was obvious that I was not asking in reference to an arbitrary "definition" of genius. This is basically a 4th grader's answer
YourMomsNewBoyfriend
I'll take "i don't know how intelligence is measured" for 500 Bob!
YourMomsNewBoyfriend
Sorry that was a douche reply. But look up "g". Incredibly reliable determinant of ability to process and synthesize info.
YourMomsNewBoyfriend
Actually you'll probably have to google "g factor" or "general intelligence". Either way its not arbitrary.
LetMePickMyTeethThenHaveMoreChips2
Trust in pseudo science get pseudo cure.
baconsmellsreallygood
out on his own terms knowing that even modern medicine doesn't guarantee him a chance at survival (2)
baconsmellsreallygood
I do not know much about how much of a chance he had even w/ treatment. Sure Doctors will be optimistic. Maybe he just wanted to check (1)
mattrixk
You know what they call alternative medicine that's been proven to work? Medicine.
thisisagreatusernamedontworryitswonderful
Cards on the table? I thought this was about Steve Jobs wearing socks and sandles. Should have known better, indeed
AlexisActually
Is... is that something you're not supposed to do? Is that why I don't have any friends and am told to return to the pit from whence I came?
IFuckingLoveGoldenRetrievers
Same
anonwhitetie
Ditto
MoreLikeLawlSchool
It's only because crocs didn't exist yet.
ScrewUTube
I legitimately thought this was them bringing his corpse to be their spokesman
darkershadeofpale
In all honesty I thought it was too
AlexisActually
Is that something you're not supposed to do? Is that why I don't have any friends and am told to return to the pit from whence I came?
Irreal
Its appropriation of German culture
AlexisActually
My mom's family is German though...
Irreal
Then its ok
iamgrewt
I thought he was a secret cross dresser...
swinglinered
easier to poop this way
kohrah
*sandals (sorry)
DoofusGoo
Enchantment?
bukaki2011
Someone had to
letmenumberthatforyou
Are you Canadian?
kohrah
nah, finn
bartman2014
Look at him, thinner, lighter, more powerful - like the iPad Air
Raider60
Ho Lee Fakkkkkkkkkk!!!!!
BlueKarat
Even stripped out some old features that people loved!
PhillyBlunts
midrampage
Fucking legendary! Well played sir, well played.
Ragswolf
I just went to hell.
Mapl
Now he's more like The Cloud but like not as effective....almost completely uneffective
Hurrrrrrrrr
Wow that's fucked up.
thelostg
Agree
summershank
Comment of the fucking decade
MedSchoolMnemonics
U win the Internet today.
JohnBouth
Bahahahah bruh
allotherusernamestaken89
Is your first name Adam, because that was fucking savage!
dauntlessds
That guy has Ben Savage!
RancorTrainer
hetjr
Shatters when he hits the ground unless he's in a box
op0ss1m
omg6manykids
arachnidbethlehem
Holy. Fuck. Bravo.
Ghostshenanigans
Yeah, and I bet if you drop him just right he'll crack
DinoKebab
BRUH!
Drapetomanius
More powerful might be a stretch
CallingOutAlltheImgurHatersOnPosts
Here's the hater
TheFel
Im favoriting this just for this comment !! Haha
GreenMeansGoRedMeansStop
PocketFullOfMumbles
cheesesteakburger
Exactly
ReleaseTheSounds
Barbaric.+1
wackywoohoopizzaman
<3 cause we can't fucking favourite comments
username678
Gaturos
u are going strait to hell but you are going down as a legend for this comment xD
theauntychrist
rickyo86
Horrible....Just horrible.
pocketpython
Ect0Burger
ererr
And dies early
FusRoDoodles
And like the iPad Air his warranty is long expired.
Standarddeviationnormalguy
Oh man!
dolphinboynd
Fitter, Happier
ImmaStealYoReactionPics
Brilliant.
notgoingtoarrestyou
ButteryButteryToast
But most importantly it looks better.
MapToTheCrunch
eraserfullofcharme
Holy shit
tadhgmce21101
ForgotMyOtherAcct
I've seen a similar joke before - apple was proud to be unveiling the thinnest, lightest CEO on the market.
roorooter
What we are witnessing here is a comment that will have more points than the post. Children, enjoy this rare event.
BeardedCoffeeMonkey
soulman901
LosBrendo
This comment is fucking brilliant.
equityforpunks
After amazing and revolutionary treatment.
KingZullu
stratus41298
N00blett
Going to hell for laughing at this, but dammit I can't help it
NikolaiJakovtheheadoftheKGB
thegelatoking
NikolaiJakovtheheadoftheKGB
whyareyouwearingthatstupidmansuit00
This comment makes me wish that I can favorite comments
Mildlyupsetpancake
Same
TyrantJester
Technically you just did.