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Aeav8r
Lol so fuckin true. Doctor will still only give him 15 minutes and tell the patient it's all in his head.
iPretend
It’s illegal for us to let you die in an afternoon, but perfectly acceptable to watch you die slowly over several months.
IAmJustHereToCommentAndLaugh
This movie is like Speed only that Jason Statham is the Bus.
throughthequadtothegymnasium
Everyone forget John Q?
C0untryboy21
Because muricq
sinaloasam
Jason Statham reacting poorly to the implication
StressedOperator
also in brazil were healthcare is suposed to be free.
soregrapes
Apropos "Relatable"
Zerogates
Plenty of healthcare for people on disability, have kids, or in prison. It's the working class that gets fucked over in the US.
redrum1120
My son has the flu. Our local pharmacies are out of genetic Tamiflu. Brand name, after insurance, is $300. Awesome.
Lurch1911
Juice me!
CommanderWilliamTRiker
I pay about $600 a year. Not a bad gig.
jinxman17
that whole movie was one hell of a rollercoaster
joboo
Interesting plot
DerangedMoosh
And then keeps going so that he will leave something behind for his family, and then keeps going because he loves it, and then keeps going
Ilnor
Because he was good at it
Neogreenyew
Just an FYI that nurse is the same guy that plays Dennis in Always Sunny.
Spaid47Trey57
Yet, americans say theirs is the best country...
DaymanMasterOfTheNightman
SuicidalThrillbillyturnedLunaticChillbilly
He's pointing that gun at another applicant for the job he's pushing for!
Ooolovelyjubbly
Is this Crank?
Sandman801
Yes! The movie that made me a huge Jason Stathem fan!
mcneelyj
The Breaking Bad references really hit the point home, healthcare in the US is just broke. Single payer is the way forward.
emilytangerine8910
If the insurance comp. and healthcare comp. drive up each other’s cost, & suck and communication, why do we need the insurance comp?
BaggedMolk
another reason why us canadians are better
Shimitwithbologna
Hello from Canada eh....just come here. Lmao jk, please don't
SneakEFoxxe
Dude trigger discipline. Isn’t getting electrocuted gonna cause his fingers to clench?
tungurbooty
Pretty sure he intends to shoot and is ready to fire, if I remember this scene correctly.
HamDangler4TheAngleOfTheDangle
Maybe you need to try a new system v
TOTOAFRICA
That’s a five star man
FuryDivine
A golden god if you will.
Zareto
you're a five star man
Aww no you are
Muttons1337
I was going to mention the nurse in the scene there looks like Dennis!
It is. I had to look it up after watching the movie and it is actually him. XD
Oh wow! Haha maybe I should watch Crank 2 afterall
I think he was in both? Im not sure. I might be mixing parts up between the two. Good movie to turn off your brain for a while though
He was. He gets shot in the head in the second one while talking to a psychiatrist
k1dicarus1
Gotten see it from the bright side. Trump announced to lower prices on opiates. To deal with the opiate epidemic. Opiates for everybody!!!!!
worldling
I actually like this idea. Reduce the street value of opioids and reduce incentive to sell opioids. Also, junkies don't have to steal to 1/
get drugs &they can have a better chance of recovering from their disease state by getting mental health help & not hurting their families
This would be good and true if addicts bought only from the street. Most get it clean from the pharmacy or prescriped from the doc.
Correct and they also sell their prescription pain meds on the street too. They go to the ER to score a small supply just to sell bc it's $$
MicrowavdPeeps
Is that Glen Howerton with the paddles?? Been a grip since I’ve watched this movie.
cancerriddenlung
No! That’s Patrick!
It is!
cunninglinguist85
Eggbutts
What was the necessity of the "if it had been set in the U.K." when the title of the comic already reads, "anywhere but America edition"?
Jburli24
You know, when I first watched breaking bad I thought the whole 'massive debt because of cancer' was part of the fiction of the show
I probably would actually finished that series.
DashingThroughTheNope
SLAVERY!
For all of you downvoting Muppets, I was being sarcastic
Sinodio
Not liking the joke = muppetry?
batpikachu
Doctors in Canada actually get paid just as much or even better than U.S. doctors!
Kluehouse
Wasn't part of it he was a teacher and he wanted support his family after he died like sending his son and daughter to college
MildlyConcernedTV
That was his excuse, but later in the series Walt realizes that he was only truly doing it for himself because it was the first time he had1
2 control. everything that happened in his life was because of circumstances or other people. Cooking meth was his way to have some control
3 over his life. For the first time he felt powerful and had the ability to make his own decisions.
That's right but the excuse of 737,000 was the excuse that he used to allow himself to cook
Trelkeen
I'm actually happy with our system, I took my son to the Dr Tuesday, she ordered a CT scan, we scheduled it that evening and got results Wed
Someday693
How much did it cost?
I realize other places have healthcare for free but the US system provides really good service & cost isn't too awful for everyday people
In Canada you can't call the dr at 9am, be seen at 3pm, CT scan at 6pm, and results by 11am the next day. That's a service i'll pay for
That doesn't count run of the mill doctor or sick visits and stuff like that....which cost me a $10 co-pay and are 100% covered.
Well, it was our first medical treatment of the year so we had to pay $350 for the rest of the year we will only pay 10%
Out of curiosity, was that what you were expecting?
Genuinely had no idea. From the UK, so used to things being free at the point of use. Similar timescale as well. I just struggle to 1/2
imagine living in a country where health is treated as a commodity and not a citizen's right (despite the current NHS crisis) 2/2
I respect that, i personally prefer this system & i've lived in other countries & not attacking other systems, just isn't my pref ya know?
tryitonforsize
Before Obamacare I paid $180 a month for great health care. After Obama care I can't afford the $390 crap health care.
expendableemo1
I don’t even have insurance bc car payments are more affordable & important than health insurance. If I die, then I die
Sammyv17
Before Obamacare I couldn't get healthcare. Now I can and pay around $90 a month.
Rikkytikky
Before Obamacare I paid a shit ton in taxes and had decent benefits, after Obamacare I pay a shit ton in taxes and more for worse benefits
SmallHandsBigPenis
Yeah but my SOs stayed the same, so is it Obamacare (which would affect effect everyone) or is it your insurance provider?
I’ll add that he has great insurance and pays $70 a month.
The fact that you had to pay at all is unethical
CactusFantastic0
The only reason I can afford healthcare is because of ACA
Before ObamaCare I was denied insurance for a pre-existing condition I was born with. Guess I should have bought insurance in utero!
amaboateng1006
I pay 60 a month before and after. Depends on your insurance
Rahxa
Well that will happen when administration tries to intentionally burst the bubble.
Nobodyslogan
Before Obamacare i paid my taxes and received okay healthcare, after Obamacare i still pay my taxes and receive slightly worse healthcare.
My mom can’t even afford her cholesterol medicine anymore, woot woot
heynongman4pres
This is why we're so fucked. We have a shitty healthcare system and the popular response is to privatize it further...
UnpopularOpinionPuffinPersonified
In what world is publicly run business better than private?
It may be that a national pool of insured is more efficient than pockets of private pools be the risk can be spread across a larger group.
PiggyWobbles
in the world of every industrialized, first world country that isn't the US
But also it may be useful to view the healthcare market as a public utility. internationally the state is more efficient in this sector.
idontevenpost
It’s hardly privatized at all. It’s this gross mishmash of private insurance companies and government regulations. A move in either...
Direction would most likely be better than our current system
I actually don’t disagree with you. I happen to think a move towards less regs would increases efficiency but decrease quality & coverage
If you look at laser eye surgery and dermatology, less regulations have lead to more competition, lower prices, and better treatments
However bc we have international examples to compare, I think a larger role for the state makes sense in the healthcare space.
LionHeart31337
You’re blaming Obamacare, when the insurance companies are literally skull fucking you and you’re happy about it. Look up some facts please!
GreaterDog
People think repealing Obamacare gonna make things better. Not in an industry whose product has strongly inelastic demand and no
accountabyss
Where was the accountability and transparency of Obamacare? It was rammed through along party lines and we were told to pass it first.
accountability/price transparency.
The CBO also started out saying it was going to be neutral. That, of course, was revised and it has blown up costs, but especially premiums.
Ravben
It's also healthcare administrations.... those never come up in these conversations but they share a huge chunk of that skull fucking.
Insurance companies did not pass a law requiring individuals and businesses to have their insurance, or set standards that destroyed plans.
The outrageous profits made by insurance companies caused this entire mess.
How did profits force companies to insure people who haven't and can't pay into their systems, or create expensive+unnecessary requirements?
Same people who did this were like (D)Barney Frank, wanted everyone to get a home loan and denied risk. This is why gov't should be skinned.
Hey now...don’t forget the role hospitals, colleges, pharmaceutical companies, and medical supply companies play in this.
Very well said!
AwwYissMothaFuckinProcrastination
Religious hospitals ironically focus on worldly items and possessions instead of charity
People don’t generally accept bibles as currency man
TotesNotTheNSA
We're getting skull fucked either way... I'd rather pay less for my skullfucking thank you
But would you be paying less when others aren’t covered? And when they go to the emergency room because they had none who covers it? You!
Emergency room use has not significantly declined. Nothing has been fixed by forcing people to pay, pay more, and get crappy insurance.
I mean, I used to pay significantly less. Then the AHCA passed and now I pay significantly more.
andymancan20
@lionheart88 your asking ppl to look up facts (w/o providing your own to dispute) actually made me do just that. A bit of context, (cont)
I'm an ind moderate who is fiscally con but socially fine w most everything. (Facts below)
I looked up best healthcare in the world and Switzerland came up on all lists as a top place. Noe they don't have universal ins as I thought
But they have mandated coverage where the basic care isn't allowed to be a profit maker. According to a 2014 report the avg monthly cost
For basic healthcare is $243 for over 26. Now there's a cap of 8% of income & other nuances but this is just for basic care not including
What parts of Obamacare impacted your healthcare situation? I think a lot of ppl conflate all changes in the healthcare market with the law.
alex5775
The argument I've heard (not sure about the facts) is Obamacare made insurance mandatory which made insurance companies pump their 1/2
Prices up, which to me means we need to stop the insurance companies from being able to do that.
The law has a tax penalty for ppl who don’t sign up for insurance, however it hasn’t been used significantly (was delayed & now repealed).
If anything, the mandate incentivized healthy ppl who wouldn’t have otherwise bought ins. to buy it, so it would push prices lower.
In any case, the prices that insurance companies set are influenced by the market as a whole, not just the law. This is the conflation.
Double cost for worse care. Goal = "fewer bankruptcies based on health costs", most had insurance anyways, problem was made worse by ACA.
The ACA set minimum quality limits for health plans and expanded coverage. The price of care continues to rise, this so too do ins. premiums
Those minimum quality standards of a 60/40 health care plan were worse than the typical 70/30 and 80/20 plans at the same prices.
How so?
PwnageHobo
Holy shit, you had to pay $180 a month, and you thought that was good?
screamingshits
I work in the industry and that's less than I pay, so yeah
LatrineUsedToBeShitHouse
Family of 4 is now $1200 a month, with more ass raping deductibles to meet before getting most of my benefits.
I could have paid much less and still gotten better insurance. I chose to pay that much on a great plan. It was my choice.
Even before Obamacare the working class was responsible for the free health care for those who wouldn't pay.
knighttime
That $180 a month is probably less than the monthly tax rate under a single payer system. And he got to choose what was for him and his own.
You are so mind bogggling ignorant on the facts of what you just said it’s astounding.
SardonicGrin
Soooooooo....you know so much about his individual situation and the insurance he had that you could make that very derogatory statement?
Ignorant of the fact that when the government touches something, it’s costs 2x as much and works half as well as it should?
dragonfliesfantasize
You mean like police and fire services? The ones we don't pay a dime out of pocket for? Or public schools? Yes taxes pay for those things1/
Aeav8r
Lol so fuckin true. Doctor will still only give him 15 minutes and tell the patient it's all in his head.
iPretend
It’s illegal for us to let you die in an afternoon, but perfectly acceptable to watch you die slowly over several months.
IAmJustHereToCommentAndLaugh
This movie is like Speed only that Jason Statham is the Bus.
throughthequadtothegymnasium
Everyone forget John Q?
C0untryboy21
Because muricq
sinaloasam
Jason Statham reacting poorly to the implication
StressedOperator
also in brazil were healthcare is suposed to be free.
soregrapes
Apropos "Relatable"
Zerogates
Plenty of healthcare for people on disability, have kids, or in prison. It's the working class that gets fucked over in the US.
redrum1120
My son has the flu. Our local pharmacies are out of genetic Tamiflu. Brand name, after insurance, is $300. Awesome.
Lurch1911
Juice me!
CommanderWilliamTRiker
I pay about $600 a year. Not a bad gig.
jinxman17
that whole movie was one hell of a rollercoaster
joboo
C0untryboy21
Interesting plot
DerangedMoosh
And then keeps going so that he will leave something behind for his family, and then keeps going because he loves it, and then keeps going
Ilnor
Because he was good at it
Neogreenyew
Just an FYI that nurse is the same guy that plays Dennis in Always Sunny.
Spaid47Trey57
Yet, americans say theirs is the best country...
DaymanMasterOfTheNightman
SuicidalThrillbillyturnedLunaticChillbilly
He's pointing that gun at another applicant for the job he's pushing for!
Ooolovelyjubbly
Is this Crank?
Sandman801
Yes! The movie that made me a huge Jason Stathem fan!
mcneelyj
The Breaking Bad references really hit the point home, healthcare in the US is just broke. Single payer is the way forward.
emilytangerine8910
If the insurance comp. and healthcare comp. drive up each other’s cost, & suck and communication, why do we need the insurance comp?
BaggedMolk
another reason why us canadians are better
Shimitwithbologna
Hello from Canada eh....just come here. Lmao jk, please don't
SneakEFoxxe
Dude trigger discipline. Isn’t getting electrocuted gonna cause his fingers to clench?
tungurbooty
Pretty sure he intends to shoot and is ready to fire, if I remember this scene correctly.
HamDangler4TheAngleOfTheDangle
Maybe you need to try a new system
v
TOTOAFRICA
That’s a five star man
FuryDivine
A golden god if you will.
Zareto
you're a five star man
TOTOAFRICA
Aww no you are
Muttons1337
I was going to mention the nurse in the scene there looks like Dennis!
Neogreenyew
It is. I had to look it up after watching the movie and it is actually him. XD
Muttons1337
Oh wow! Haha maybe I should watch Crank 2 afterall
Neogreenyew
I think he was in both? Im not sure. I might be mixing parts up between the two. Good movie to turn off your brain for a while though
HamDangler4TheAngleOfTheDangle
He was. He gets shot in the head in the second one while talking to a psychiatrist
k1dicarus1
Gotten see it from the bright side. Trump announced to lower prices on opiates. To deal with the opiate epidemic. Opiates for everybody!!!!!
worldling
I actually like this idea. Reduce the street value of opioids and reduce incentive to sell opioids. Also, junkies don't have to steal to 1/
worldling
get drugs &they can have a better chance of recovering from their disease state by getting mental health help & not hurting their families
k1dicarus1
This would be good and true if addicts bought only from the street. Most get it clean from the pharmacy or prescriped from the doc.
worldling
Correct and they also sell their prescription pain meds on the street too. They go to the ER to score a small supply just to sell bc it's $$
MicrowavdPeeps
Is that Glen Howerton with the paddles?? Been a grip since I’ve watched this movie.
cancerriddenlung
No! That’s Patrick!
MicrowavdPeeps
It is!
cunninglinguist85
Eggbutts
What was the necessity of the "if it had been set in the U.K." when the title of the comic already reads, "anywhere but America edition"?
Jburli24
You know, when I first watched breaking bad I thought the whole 'massive debt because of cancer' was part of the fiction of the show
emilytangerine8910
I probably would actually finished that series.
DashingThroughTheNope
SLAVERY!
DashingThroughTheNope
For all of you downvoting Muppets, I was being sarcastic
Sinodio
Not liking the joke = muppetry?
batpikachu
Doctors in Canada actually get paid just as much or even better than U.S. doctors!
Kluehouse
Wasn't part of it he was a teacher and he wanted support his family after he died like sending his son and daughter to college
MildlyConcernedTV
That was his excuse, but later in the series Walt realizes that he was only truly doing it for himself because it was the first time he had1
MildlyConcernedTV
2 control. everything that happened in his life was because of circumstances or other people. Cooking meth was his way to have some control
MildlyConcernedTV
3 over his life. For the first time he felt powerful and had the ability to make his own decisions.
Kluehouse
That's right but the excuse of 737,000 was the excuse that he used to allow himself to cook
Trelkeen
I'm actually happy with our system, I took my son to the Dr Tuesday, she ordered a CT scan, we scheduled it that evening and got results Wed
Someday693
How much did it cost?
Trelkeen
I realize other places have healthcare for free but the US system provides really good service & cost isn't too awful for everyday people
Trelkeen
In Canada you can't call the dr at 9am, be seen at 3pm, CT scan at 6pm, and results by 11am the next day. That's a service i'll pay for
Trelkeen
That doesn't count run of the mill doctor or sick visits and stuff like that....which cost me a $10 co-pay and are 100% covered.
Trelkeen
Well, it was our first medical treatment of the year so we had to pay $350 for the rest of the year we will only pay 10%
Trelkeen
Out of curiosity, was that what you were expecting?
Someday693
Genuinely had no idea. From the UK, so used to things being free at the point of use. Similar timescale as well. I just struggle to 1/2
Someday693
imagine living in a country where health is treated as a commodity and not a citizen's right (despite the current NHS crisis) 2/2
Trelkeen
I respect that, i personally prefer this system & i've lived in other countries & not attacking other systems, just isn't my pref ya know?
tryitonforsize
Before Obamacare I paid $180 a month for great health care. After Obama care I can't afford the $390 crap health care.
expendableemo1
I don’t even have insurance bc car payments are more affordable & important than health insurance. If I die, then I die
Sammyv17
Before Obamacare I couldn't get healthcare. Now I can and pay around $90 a month.
Rikkytikky
Before Obamacare I paid a shit ton in taxes and had decent benefits, after Obamacare I pay a shit ton in taxes and more for worse benefits
SmallHandsBigPenis
Yeah but my SOs stayed the same, so is it Obamacare (which would affect effect everyone) or is it your insurance provider?
SmallHandsBigPenis
I’ll add that he has great insurance and pays $70 a month.
DashingThroughTheNope
The fact that you had to pay at all is unethical
CactusFantastic0
The only reason I can afford healthcare is because of ACA
batpikachu
Before ObamaCare I was denied insurance for a pre-existing condition I was born with. Guess I should have bought insurance in utero!
amaboateng1006
I pay 60 a month before and after. Depends on your insurance
Rahxa
Well that will happen when administration tries to intentionally burst the bubble.
Nobodyslogan
Before Obamacare i paid my taxes and received okay healthcare, after Obamacare i still pay my taxes and receive slightly worse healthcare.
expendableemo1
My mom can’t even afford her cholesterol medicine anymore, woot woot
heynongman4pres
This is why we're so fucked. We have a shitty healthcare system and the popular response is to privatize it further...
UnpopularOpinionPuffinPersonified
In what world is publicly run business better than private?
heynongman4pres
It may be that a national pool of insured is more efficient than pockets of private pools be the risk can be spread across a larger group.
PiggyWobbles
in the world of every industrialized, first world country that isn't the US
heynongman4pres
But also it may be useful to view the healthcare market as a public utility. internationally the state is more efficient in this sector.
idontevenpost
It’s hardly privatized at all. It’s this gross mishmash of private insurance companies and government regulations. A move in either...
idontevenpost
Direction would most likely be better than our current system
heynongman4pres
I actually don’t disagree with you. I happen to think a move towards less regs would increases efficiency but decrease quality & coverage
idontevenpost
If you look at laser eye surgery and dermatology, less regulations have lead to more competition, lower prices, and better treatments
heynongman4pres
However bc we have international examples to compare, I think a larger role for the state makes sense in the healthcare space.
LionHeart31337
You’re blaming Obamacare, when the insurance companies are literally skull fucking you and you’re happy about it. Look up some facts please!
GreaterDog
People think repealing Obamacare gonna make things better. Not in an industry whose product has strongly inelastic demand and no
accountabyss
Where was the accountability and transparency of Obamacare? It was rammed through along party lines and we were told to pass it first.
GreaterDog
accountability/price transparency.
accountabyss
The CBO also started out saying it was going to be neutral. That, of course, was revised and it has blown up costs, but especially premiums.
Ravben
It's also healthcare administrations.... those never come up in these conversations but they share a huge chunk of that skull fucking.
accountabyss
Insurance companies did not pass a law requiring individuals and businesses to have their insurance, or set standards that destroyed plans.
LionHeart31337
The outrageous profits made by insurance companies caused this entire mess.
accountabyss
How did profits force companies to insure people who haven't and can't pay into their systems, or create expensive+unnecessary requirements?
accountabyss
Same people who did this were like (D)Barney Frank, wanted everyone to get a home loan and denied risk. This is why gov't should be skinned.
cancerriddenlung
Hey now...don’t forget the role hospitals, colleges, pharmaceutical companies, and medical supply companies play in this.
LionHeart31337
Very well said!
AwwYissMothaFuckinProcrastination
Religious hospitals ironically focus on worldly items and possessions instead of charity
cancerriddenlung
People don’t generally accept bibles as currency man
TotesNotTheNSA
We're getting skull fucked either way... I'd rather pay less for my skullfucking thank you
LionHeart31337
But would you be paying less when others aren’t covered? And when they go to the emergency room because they had none who covers it? You!
accountabyss
Emergency room use has not significantly declined. Nothing has been fixed by forcing people to pay, pay more, and get crappy insurance.
TotesNotTheNSA
I mean, I used to pay significantly less. Then the AHCA passed and now I pay significantly more.
andymancan20
@lionheart88 your asking ppl to look up facts (w/o providing your own to dispute) actually made me do just that. A bit of context, (cont)
andymancan20
I'm an ind moderate who is fiscally con but socially fine w most everything. (Facts below)
andymancan20
I looked up best healthcare in the world and Switzerland came up on all lists as a top place. Noe they don't have universal ins as I thought
andymancan20
But they have mandated coverage where the basic care isn't allowed to be a profit maker. According to a 2014 report the avg monthly cost
andymancan20
For basic healthcare is $243 for over 26. Now there's a cap of 8% of income & other nuances but this is just for basic care not including
heynongman4pres
What parts of Obamacare impacted your healthcare situation? I think a lot of ppl conflate all changes in the healthcare market with the law.
alex5775
The argument I've heard (not sure about the facts) is Obamacare made insurance mandatory which made insurance companies pump their 1/2
alex5775
Prices up, which to me means we need to stop the insurance companies from being able to do that.
heynongman4pres
The law has a tax penalty for ppl who don’t sign up for insurance, however it hasn’t been used significantly (was delayed & now repealed).
heynongman4pres
If anything, the mandate incentivized healthy ppl who wouldn’t have otherwise bought ins. to buy it, so it would push prices lower.
heynongman4pres
In any case, the prices that insurance companies set are influenced by the market as a whole, not just the law. This is the conflation.
Zerogates
Double cost for worse care. Goal = "fewer bankruptcies based on health costs", most had insurance anyways, problem was made worse by ACA.
heynongman4pres
The ACA set minimum quality limits for health plans and expanded coverage. The price of care continues to rise, this so too do ins. premiums
Zerogates
Those minimum quality standards of a 60/40 health care plan were worse than the typical 70/30 and 80/20 plans at the same prices.
heynongman4pres
How so?
PwnageHobo
Holy shit, you had to pay $180 a month, and you thought that was good?
screamingshits
I work in the industry and that's less than I pay, so yeah
LatrineUsedToBeShitHouse
Family of 4 is now $1200 a month, with more ass raping deductibles to meet before getting most of my benefits.
tryitonforsize
I could have paid much less and still gotten better insurance. I chose to pay that much on a great plan. It was my choice.
Zerogates
Even before Obamacare the working class was responsible for the free health care for those who wouldn't pay.
knighttime
That $180 a month is probably less than the monthly tax rate under a single payer system. And he got to choose what was for him and his own.
LionHeart31337
You are so mind bogggling ignorant on the facts of what you just said it’s astounding.
SardonicGrin
Soooooooo....you know so much about his individual situation and the insurance he had that you could make that very derogatory statement?
knighttime
Ignorant of the fact that when the government touches something, it’s costs 2x as much and works half as well as it should?
dragonfliesfantasize
You mean like police and fire services? The ones we don't pay a dime out of pocket for? Or public schools? Yes taxes pay for those things1/