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I saw a post on here earlier. It made me realize it’s ok to talk, it’s ok to feel.
Was just clearing the hospital, immediately sent out on another. Possible suicide, adult male. I was there within 6 minutes, I got there moments after PD secured the scene. Walked into the apartment to find the man had shot himself under his jaw, obvious injury incompatible with life. We had to call it. Walking out I stepped on skull fragments. I informed his wife, she was hysterical and wouldn’t let go of me. PD took over with her and I went to get the kids that were in another room behind the a baby gate. I picked up one of the kids, my partner got the other. All of us started escorting the family out of the home to a neighbors house. The kid I was carrying, a little 5 year old boy, told me he got his daddy a “piwoh” (pillow) since he hadn’t been sleeping well. The kid kept asking if his daddy would like it. His dad hadn’t been sleeping well because of money and marriage issues. I can’t stop hearing the child.
I rarely get affected by calls. Even when I have been, never like this.
1-800-273-8255 National Suicide Hotline
Make the call, even if the whole world is falling apart make the call. Live. It isn’t worth it, help is out there.
Edit: just to let you all know I have sent an email to activate a CISM team. Critical Incident Stress Management team. It’s a common resource for first responders everywhere, tailored specifically to us to deal with these things.
Edit 2: The outpour of support, kindness, and genuine concern is staggering. This community never ceases to amaze me. For those feeling down, I made this post a while back to reach out about depression and crisis. https://imgur.com/gallery/7LX0H granted when I made it I had no idea I would soon come to need help myself. We are all beautiful people moving through life together. Thank you all, truly.
FP Edit: I didn’t really feel the need to do an FP edit at first..but honestly after reading through about 300 comments I do now. If you want to say it’s fake I don’t care. If you want to hate on me I don’t care. I can take keyboard warrior hate all day, because the real world has made me able to do that. What I won’t stand for and refuse to deal with is hating on those in this thread that are commenting their personal experiences about suicide and getting hate for it. I won’t stand for people talking about the father as if he was some terrible person. He left tons of presents for his kids, the kids were well dressed and had plenty of toys. They were clearly loved by both parents. The victims here are the whole family and the father together. The father lost a long battle based off the history we obtained from family, and the family lost some of their light. The children lost their father. Do not attack the family or the father. Do not attack fellow Imgurians in need or in pain. It’s wrong and unjust and makes you less human.
mmmerf
Dude, your kindness and composure will be remembered one day. This was a horrible day for that child, but you made it a little better.
coombez1978
Wow and the worst thing I had to deal with was kids eating too much chocolate. Hats off to you, you kind selfless person.
SnapieGinger
I've tried and honestly feel bad the mess i made that the responders walked into.Thank you for what you do.And people, the hotline does help
merryjumpingjane12
Right beside you in spirit brother. Good job calling for help. The entire EMS community is standing behind you. We understand. God speed.
pannanana
As an adult child of a parent who committed suicide 11 yrs ago when I was 25, I never got a chance to thank my mom's responders. Thank you.
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Vinylstep
My dad took his life on Christmas Eve 18 years ago, and while I was too young to remember him well, I certainly appreciate what you do.
ToNkaTUCKS
Yesterday in my ER 2year old came in. Code blue. Didn’t make it. :.( the whole er felt it. Im sorry man. Stay strong
DriveByShitting
Sorry to hear this. Your job is incredibly hard, but incredibly necessary.
OliverKlosof
I can't pretend to know what that's like... Take care of your own wellbeing or you won't be of any help to those who need you. Thank you...
TheCrimsonFukr
Good move on making that CISM call @op!
gestaltist
Poor kid. That's gonna be a wound he'll carry for the rest of his life. I'm tearing up just thinking about it.
DeadlyFood
I... I really don't know what to say... thats really sad and I feel so bad for that family
grrrrim
It's always ok to talk about it. Never good to try and "tough it out". That's how EMTs and paramedics have one of the highest suicide rates
EveryBodyLovesMe
I LOVE the code green campaign. They are working so hard to turn it around, provide support and attention to it all
PsycheClone
Friend of mine quit after a call to a car accident where a child had died. Put him in a bad place for a while. You do difficult work op. +1
skellington01
Totally understandable. I hope he got help and is doing ok now.
Gamemeister83
I'm praying for you and his family to find some sort of peace and comfort.
raindropped
For being there, for holding the widow, for picking up the child, for caring... thank you.
torpido
My gran refused to take her pills anymore. It sent her to the hospital for the last time. I gave her my favorite pillow for comfort.
KiwiJesus
Beautiful. Sure you made her way out easier.
torpido
I was only 7 and didn't know she was dying. I didn't know that would be my last interaction with her
Armistice023
I understand the feeling, OP. We had a really bad racing crash here 7yrs ago. 8 people killed 21 hurt. I was helping along with lots-
Armistice023
Of other people. Fire and ambulances, chopper was called in to air lift injured. I had nightmares about it for months after-
Armistice023
I never called anyone. Best I did was just keep talking to others who were affected. It's not weakness. If you need to talk, talk about it
Freskitah
I almost didn't make it through 2017..I don't know if I'll make it through 2018..
ChronicNerditis
You can. You’ve made it this far. Life is worth living. So much to see and experience. I love you for living. You’re spectacular. Live&Love
thatguywithbadmemes
I've been there. It's a dark corner to climb out of. It may seem impossible but you just have to take it one day at a time and keep climbing
RedbullWithoutACause
I was blessed with the ability to prevent my mother's suicide attempts when I was younger. I caught her in the act both times. My heart goes
RedbullWithoutACause
out to everyone suffering from depression, and those that stand strong with those people. Both sides of the fence are difficult.
RedbullWithoutACause
All I can say is that if you're suffering: ask for help. If you think your loved one is heading down this path, don't be afraid to be
RedbullWithoutACause
pushy and nosy. It's better to be a nosy friend than asking yourself if you could have done more. Stay strong everyone.
skellington01
If you're gonna commit suicide please make it easier for your survivors. I know this is not a popular plea. But if you already made your
skellington01
mind and I can't change it, I know it seems like it doesn't matter but at least you'll be remembered better. Do it away from home.
annibe11e
My father drove to the police station and did it in his car. I'm so grateful to him for that.
MatrimBloodyCauthon
Shit, that's dark. I'm so sorry :(
Geniefromdownunder
Couldn't say it better myself. Onions..Onions everywhere.
StuperDan
To all those responding with anger to the father, realize that when one is in state, they believe with their whole being that they (1 of x)
StuperDan
doing the right thing. You cant explain irrational actions with rational reasoning, and then lay blame based on your rational reasoning. (2)
StuperDan
If he died of a heart condition instead of a brain condition would you be thinking about what a selfish jerk he was?
Suravik
Not arguing, but dying of a heart condition isn't a choice
iHaveNoMouthAndIMustMeme
Nor is suicide, there's a reason it's called "driven to suicide". Survival instinct is one hell of a thing, takes a lot for it to fail.
BilldeTurlock
It looks, to them, like the only way out. I've been nearly there, with a literal 1 ½ year-long headache, drugs weren't working, etc...
whotfdis
I know someone who went through something like that. Do you work at a college?
BilldeTurlock
No. I'm elderly, & have acute cervical spondylosis (vertebrae thinning, w/ pinched nerves).
chtwhite
Chronic, you need to get off here and go see a Psychiatrist. This will not get better trying to deal with it yourself.
Heavenissize17socks
But we will still be here to cheer for you!
ggagito
Firefightet here. Thought I could handle everything by just not talking about it till I started losing sleep myself. Please talk. It helps.
Kodaxmax
Not that im arguing against seein a pro, remeber everyone copes with things differently, imgur might be a good bckup in the meantime
balentay
I'm so glad for this community, and how the outpouring of support really seems to help people on here.
Kodaxmax
Thanks to the ability for us to down-vote ppl into oblivion and the mods banning ppl they disagree with for "spam"
Kodaxmax
Ironic that we have to ruin someones comment or account just to seem supportive
balentay
I was talking more about the people who post supportive, positive messages in the first place, but that does suck yeah.
Kodaxmax
My point was that for all we know their were twice as many mean comments
tr3buchet
should retire (with pay) people who have gone through this, like in a good way, “you’ve done your time, please move on to happier things”
hungitalianohwaitthisisntgrindr
people would be finished with their really soon after starting. and many people don’t want to stop. kinda stupid comment.
tr3buchet
ok... just seems awful to expect people to do well going through that over and over
CoderMonkey
Good thought as an option, but some will want to keep helping
tr3buchet
man you are looking at some old stuff bro!
ChronicNerditis
I’ve already sent an email to activate a CISM team for me and the crew I was with. We all have had problems with it.
chtwhite
Yea, go see a person who specializes in PTSD.
teh0khardic
Thank you - not just for what you have to do for work but mainly for knowing what steps to take and not being afraid to take them
WARHAMMER405
Good call on getting a CISM team activated. Take care of yourself.
MerToo
One time my rig crew were coming out to work in the van and they happened across a road accident and the passenger was fine but the driver
MerToo
was terminal and the driller took good charge of the situation but the leasehand (20, nice kid) saw some stuff, poor little bugger, anyhoo
MerToo
I (rig HSEA or "Safety Man" as they say) got the Office to send out the counselling lady and she set some minds to rest nicely.
GoldenRamoth
Good on ya. Especially getting things lined up for your team. You're good people. God bless.
thinkinthatheneedsit
This makes me reconsider taking my life
legitchrispratt
You're a human being, you deserve love and a decent life. Even if you don't have either right now, you are valuable and I have faith in you.
Kiwiwhovian
My uncle committed suicide before Xmas and no Xmas is ever the same again. Please find some help.
Arawhon
Dont worry, eventually the pain goes away, either by getting better or by going numb. Nobody likes to talk about the numbness though.
mmmerf
Not sure if you're kidding, but please reach out and get help.
Inappr0priate
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GCRust
Suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem. Call the hotline, don't be afraid to ask for help. You aren't alone.
torpido
Same. I hope you find help as well. I'm here if you want to talk.
skellington01
Life's "Esc" button is always there. Just treat it as a game. Suffering isn't real even when it seems real af. That is what helps me stay.
TimurKl
If I treated it as game I would uninstall it already and go cry in corner.
TheAccursedHamster
I've always said that you aren't ending you're pain when you take your own life, you're just forcing it on your family instead.
MichaelCrack
I haven't taken mine because after my mum left with my siblings I'm all my dad has.
lightningboltkid1
Listen here you beautiful bastard. God gave you life on Hard Mode cause he knew you could do it. Or He is an asshole. Either way. Do it.
justlurkinfornow
Truth is your thoughts on this aren't your fault, your brain is different from others. But it can be healed and you're worth the struggle.
Quarantinous
https://youtu.be/urZxLdrwcbQ
utur
This has always been in the back of my mind when I don't do it. What poor bastard is going to have to clean me up.
halefire
"Suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem"
CoderMonkey
Alice Morgan?
SithShodan
Attempted suicide once. Regretted it immediately. Started thinking about how it would hurt my loved ones. It doesn't get rid of pain... 1/
SithShodan
2/ it just gives our pain to them. My Dokkodo now forbids against suicide, no matter the reason.
LeNoseKnows
Bendercrackedcorn
We'll all be dead soon enough, remember, "it's just a ride." Don't rush to the end.
RDS08
live fast die young?
TheSunless
Please don't do it. It's never worth it.
SneakyDingo
I myself am going through a hard time too. Not close to contemplating suicide but getting stuck in a rut can be so draining
IceKarma
It sounds like you recognize what's going on, though, which is pretty powerful all by itsef...
SneakyDingo
It's nothing serious but every person has their own problems going on. Daily arguments and shouting is just a head wreck
fantasticjack
It's been a year since my ex took his. Saddened beyond words. Still pains me every day to think on all he's missed. Please get help. <3
justlurkinfornow
I'm so sorry for your loss.
fantasticjack
Thank you friend
imgjim
Please don't.
Bigbrother44444
If you need to talk let me know please
Kokoroko1
Please don't. There are people who love you. Read other comments here. Praying 4 u. God bless.
justthoughtyousholdknow
This makes me not want to start a family.
RDS08
I never want to start one to begin with, because it's easier to leave everything behind whenever you want...
justthoughtyousholdknow
Very true.
LaSabr3
I'm here if you ever want to chat. Hit me up.
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MrCrazieman
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CanadianEngineer
What a fucking hero, @OP is a legend
HoldOnToYourMutts
Thanks, @OP
jiggypiggy711
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wildlifenerd
Thank you
sourorphan2112
Please do reconsider... you matter.
Salmonthegreat
If you ever need someone, I and many others from here will listen, so please just message if you need it. <3
Zipp4Real
Please do reconsider.Unless you are hitler or have been hit with a lethal dose of radiation, suicide is a really bad idea.Life is beautiful.
Zipp4Real
Thats coming from a guy with a truly fucked up childhood and years of ptsd therapy. It gets hard but you can become happy again!
Zipp4Real
Just think of the beautiful things in life and never forget to laugh. There will always be something worth living for!
Zipp4Real
And dont compare yourself to the life or struggles of others, that doesnt matter. We all have different burdens to bear.
ferocat
1/My friend has tried to kill himself 3 times. He finally got a good therapist and the right meds and is so happy. He's about to complete
ferocat
2/ his PhD and we all couldn't be prouder of him. There are so many things to live for. Please get help <3
masterofmuppets13
Even if you don't have kids, think about the reaction from every one of your family members and friends. Pls get help and good luck man
iHaveNoMouthAndIMustMeme
Very risky, I was guilt tripped like this and it made me feel more cornered and used like some facility. Did not help at all.
Danillama
Yeah, especially when they don't give a shit about you when you're alive. They just don't want to feel bad.
ArtOfKarolMichalec
Yes but a risky comment here: would you rather die first or watch the ones you love die?
LegendaryGrumpyCat
I would feel guilty causing them pain.
idiotcube
If it's from old age, I assume we'd both be prepared for it by then.
ShoulderDeepInACow
Depends on whether you’re selfish or not I guess. You either burry your parents or make your parents burry you. Suffer or make others suffer
ShoulderDeepInACow
I meant “Bury” my bad.
ThaEnder
But what if you have no family or friends?
Maybeinanotherdimension
Funny, this gets skipped over as an answer, but it is all too real.
TheGigaKraken
First responder here. You did your job @OP. You took the right steps and are taking care of yourself. We are proud of you and support you.
AKMedic
They also have a mandatory debrief for situations like this. Seek out help out. Protect yourself so you can keep protecting others
Dirtymikey
Another first responder here buddy, there are always people like us to talk to. Feel free to reach out, that goes for anyone.
qazxswedcvfrtgbnhyujmkiol
From another first responder - if you feel the need to talk, PM me. Sometimes it helps to open up to someone in the same field, but not 1/2
qazxswedcvfrtgbnhyujmkiol
the same unit/department.Though I hope you&your colleagues are close enough to share these kind of thoughts. Thank you for your service! 2/2
ProfessorCanisLupus
Thank you, both of you. You are amazing people.
Ryebread91
What does incompatible with life mean?
seros
Kinder way of saying "Shit you need to live was missing"
SmolTenk
e.g. (german army field manual): "If the head is located more than 20 centimeters away from the torso, the person is to be pronounced dead."
KiwiJesus
Yeah if we have to run from the torso to do the breaths for CPR we normally give up.
ChronicNerditis
I means the injuries don’t leave any chance of recovery. So if the injury just occurred but it’s too severe, we can’t start treatment
Ryebread91
So... was he still alive when you got there?
ChronicNerditis
No. And even if he was ‘alive’ (having a pulse) we would not have started treatments due to the extent of injury
Ryebread91
Well I hope you're doing better.
Wolvenlight
It's any injury someone can't live through (like decapitation, body cut in half) or sign of death (decaying body, riger mortis, etc).
Ryebread91
I was thinking about "cut in half" the other day. How do some solders survive land mines but remain a torso? Is it just too much tissue 1/2
Ryebread91
Damage so they have to amputate up to good tissue? Is a typical cut in half case just the pure shock will kill you? (Given they would 2/3
Ryebread91
Bleed out before you got anywhere close to their location) 3/3
qazxswedcvfrtgbnhyujmkiol
It's a protocol for us that states in what cases treatment does not need to be attempted as they are beyond help. In my county it is 1/2
qazxswedcvfrtgbnhyujmkiol
used for decapitation, rigor mortis, incineration, evisceration of heart or brain or decomposition. They are usually bad calls. : ( 2/2
Ryebread91
So how does incineration differ from a burn victim per say? Like sorry for the example, they look like Uncle Owen and Aunt Beru?
qazxswedcvfrtgbnhyujmkiol
That is actually a pretty fitting example, yeah. There are varying degrees of burn severities, but incineration is more along those lines..
ChinDripps
Damn. Thats your job? Heavy shit. You definitely also need to have someone to talk to, to clear your own mind. I hope you do. Good luck @op
Fedelicous
I havent experienced anything like OP. But as a nurse its weird. Ive held the hand of patient's dying, comforted families and patients 1/?
Fedelicous
That are telling me "i dont want to die". Ive felt miserable ans helpless because i cant help with their fear and anxiety. 2/3
Fedelicous
Still nothing would make me change job.
Armistice023
I assume OP is an EMT maybe
ChronicNerditis
That’s correct. I test for my Paramedic in a few weeks actually
bigpimpinjr
I work on an ambulance as an EMT also. Its these calls that that really get to me. Good job out there stay safe.
TooMuchWorkNotNuffFun
Good luck on test. You sound like an amazing human being who serves others, so thank you. I can’t thank you enough
magicpocket
You can do it @op!! Don’t forget your EMT roots lol ;) I’m looking forward to starting my paramedic this coming fall
TheLittleMerrlmaid
Good luck friend, you help with the things not many can.
teh0khardic
I never knew there was a difference between EMT and paramedic! Are they different grades of the job or separate roles entirely?
ChronicNerditis
EMR- CPR and First Aide EMT- Basic Airway interventions, very basic medications AEMT- More meds EMTI/P- everything else; P can do more tho
UnhingedDwarf
Different levels of training and responsibility. There’s First Responder, EMT-Basic, EMT- Intermediate/Advanced, and Paramedic at the top.
legitchrispratt
Good on you, be proud of that. Im currently a month or two away from Basic certification, can't even imagine operating at a paramedic level.
bearyallen
I did my Basic in High school! Good luck on your NREMT test!
hungitalianohwaitthisisntgrindr
you sound like a cunt.
legitchrispratt
Thanks bud, I think I will need the luck haha