The Committeeman had me right to the end. I thought he was going to let the FBI wanker get away scott free. I was so worried, then the Committeeman said "But, you did!". Absolutely fucking glorious.
It has always been white supremacy. That's the crux of ICE, MAGA, Christofascism, seriously, under white supremacy, you can bundle almost all of the true evils of America & it's always, always been that way.
That's what should have happened to my city's police chief when he claimed that the disproportionate police response to the George Floyd protests was because he was defending tactics that he found posted "on the antifa website" and it was caused by outside agitators who conveniently got away... and the city council was just like "okay, sure."
I would've humiliated that agent further. "isn't it your job to know this? How much are you being paid for this? Do you even know what Antifa means? When USA fought the Nazis in WW2, were they not anti-fascist?"
Exposed as a lying piece of shit, but humiliated?... not even remotely... you'd need the tiniest amount of decency to be humiliated or embarrassed by your fascist moves being called out... but these scumbags are devoid of all decency and humanity. They exist in a bubble of personal gratification and enrichment and nothing else matters to them.
What does humiliation even mean to an enemy that already has their hands clasped around our throats and all we can do is engage in civil discussion with them anyway? We should be the embarrassed ones.
Alright, what's the second biggest threat? How many THEY got? Do you have that number? Antifa got to be bigger than that; right?
I guess I'm wondering, 'By what metric did you determine they were the biggest threat?'.
Since terrorism is 'the use of terror to effect political change', what are the politics of ANTIFA?
How many terrorist attacks have ANTIFA committed? What are the casualty numbers? How much property damage, or distribution of the economy have they caused?
Confront him with right-wing terrorists and organizations. Let him try to explain how it's possible that right-terrorism is worse in every measurable aspect, but Antifa is supposedly the bigger threat.
My Antifa Grandfather was stationed as a doctor in a hospital ship. I want to say it was supporting Omaha beach assault. My other grandfather and grand-uncle had training to work the bomb sights in B-24's. Then the commander at the training camp found out they could both type and he pulled them for office staff since it was a rare skill at the time.
They can, but they aren't allowed in the meetings/conferences with him. Not only that, but getting close to the president is still a really big deal and the people who would call him out on this shit either wouldn't be allowed in the same room or would be immediately escorted out the moment they start pushing back.
It drives me insane that the guys asking the questions never go “so you don’t know? You don’t actually have any proof of anything? You’re just making shit up?”
Kinda' did with the "I know you wouldn't come here and make a claim you couldn't prove...... but you did." But you are right, it should have been pinpoint, nailed down: "You are simply making crap up. Call out the boogeyman- ANTIFA when you have no other answer."
We don't need to purge it. We need to tear the whole fucking structure down and create something fundamentally different because, clearly, the way we have been doing it is fucking flawed.
Why kinder and gentler?... Not disagreeing per se, just curious what entities them to anything kind or gentle? It's completely a hypothetical question. Completely. Absolutely not implying anything at all. Completely. Totally. For sure.
"Carefully and precisely"... ok, much better... that's good. I'm not saying I'm advocating for ruthlessly and with the express purpose of making an frightening example out of said individuals that will set an standard for future such criminals to understand the consequences of such endeavors... totally not saying that... absolutely, totally not... nope, not at all... totally an academic thought exercise. Totally.
Stalin was a murderous and imperialistic piece of shit, just like Hitler. Read a fucking book and you'll learn that only death kept him from having his own go at the Jews.
If by Antifa you mean the Eastern European phenomena of violence, I'm pretty sure that doesn't actually exist here at all... we are organizing against a wannabe dictator through things like No Kings but that's not the same thing.
He prob should've been like, they're headquarters is the internet and there approx 100 million antifa in the country right now. Your child could be a terrorist, just ask and find out. They sure are if they don't support the blind missile/bombings of potential fisherme... I mean narcos
Oof, if only he had asked him to state that the administration is against antifa, that under the administration the fbi is aganst antifa, that he is against antifa, anti-antifa, and then forced him to define, for the record, what anti fa stands for.
And then just call him a fucking nazi to his fucking face.
This is actually my stategy when dealing with these anto woke things now, "i don't understand what you are talking about, please explain" it actually kinda work
Also a great tactic when someone pulls, “It’s just a joke” after saying something horrible. “Oh, I don’t get it. What’s the joke?” It’s fun to watch them backpedal and try and explain it, dancing around without saying, “It’s a racist joke about how I think black people are monkeys” or some such bullshit.
Ive had minimal sucsess with this strategy. People will confidently tell me woke means pushing trans agenda on kids, then when i show that is strsight up not happening they just pivot to the next talking point
That's still what happening most of the time, but it still usually force them to think, even for a second before shifting and that moment is totally worth it
This isn't actually true, there are left wing fascist regimes... this has killed at least as many as capitalism historically... the key is devaluing people for your ideal.
I would agree authoritarianism is right wing, but fascism is specifically about means of execution... left wing fascism tends to have features like nationalism that mirror the right.
Yea, the ONLY army that was segregated, and treated is black soldiers like trash so much other nations had issues with it and some soldiers even reported feeling safer during deployment than they did back home. You do realize how that is a fucking issue, right? Stop glazing the US. We aren't the good guys. Don't forget the Nazis based their methods on Jim Crow
I just saw a report on MS Now that reported some of his FBI fellow agents were shaking their heads after his hearing and wondering how he so quickly became a mouthpiece for maga claims.
Each one is important to the MAGA propaganda machine. "If a lie is only printed often enough, it becomes a quasi-truth, and if such a truth is repeated often enough, it becomes an article of belief, a dogma". Don't let them say it unopposed.
I think they've just gotten so bold with the lies they tell the Maggots at home that they forget they can't pull that shit on people who have ears and a brain.
I believe their excuse would be that they can't give details on an active investigation for national security reasons. An excuse that has been prevalent since the PATRIOT act.
To be fair, ANTIFA is the biggest domestic threat. If this Trump administration doesn't quit violating people's civil rights and all the treason and sedition, there might be a rebellion. A violent one.
Yup. The people here are so uneducated in political discourse and have no sense of class solidarity. They will sleepwalk themselves into fascism because they can't let go of the fact the culture they grew up on enabled this shit fest we are currently going through.
They don't want to actually change. They just want the old status quo where they weren't the ones being oppressed
Sorry, like I mentioned, I saw it while watching TV, MS Now. On Nicole Wallace show I believe. Just something a reporter who supposedly had inside department information.
I think "MS Now" is MSNBC's new network name after it was sold. But her show is "Dateline: White House." One of the better shows on there, in my opinion.
Whatdoyousaytoanicecupoftea
This is exactly the right way to question lies like this....now, would you like a bit more rope? Its really nice rope. YOINK
usernametakenisthestoryofmylife
A fucking skinhead. And a fucking dumbass.
TsubakiTragic
The Committeeman had me right to the end. I thought he was going to let the FBI wanker get away scott free. I was so worried, then the Committeeman said "But, you did!". Absolutely fucking glorious.
Sebastopol140
YouEatYellowSnow
AgentKujan
My grandfather joined antifa in the first half of 1940, and I am immensely proud of him although I never met him.
nrr4x5
The biggest domestic threat is ICE and MAGA
januarylover
It has always been white supremacy. That's the crux of ICE, MAGA, Christofascism, seriously, under white supremacy, you can bundle almost all of the true evils of America & it's always, always been that way.
eromitlab
That's what should have happened to my city's police chief when he claimed that the disproportionate police response to the George Floyd protests was because he was defending tactics that he found posted "on the antifa website" and it was caused by outside agitators who conveniently got away... and the city council was just like "okay, sure."
SuperFerret
Minneapolis, I guess? I'm sure those agitators are back in town given that the ICE stormtroopers are acting the same damn way.
EngorgedPhallus
"...but you did". Ha, twist that knife in 'em.
FreePalestineAndTheWorldFromIsrael
I would've humiliated that agent further. "isn't it your job to know this? How much are you being paid for this? Do you even know what Antifa means? When USA fought the Nazis in WW2, were they not anti-fascist?"
jridley
Antifa == American. If you aren't Antifa, you're not what an American should be.
CallMeMcGyver
Exposed as a lying piece of shit, but humiliated?... not even remotely... you'd need the tiniest amount of decency to be humiliated or embarrassed by your fascist moves being called out... but these scumbags are devoid of all decency and humanity. They exist in a bubble of personal gratification and enrichment and nothing else matters to them.
FajitaPrinceofAllMexicans
What does humiliation even mean to an enemy that already has their hands clasped around our throats and all we can do is engage in civil discussion with them anyway? We should be the embarrassed ones.
azazyel
Trump Appointed FBI Director Christopher Wray
TheAstralWalker
Nuremberg trials for all this fuckers.
Kunkoh
I’m pretty sure they’ll be naming anyone that’s voted democrat as antifa relatively shortly.
CorgisButtsDriveMeNuts
Antifascist is not a political orientation, view, or anything debatable - it is a civilization norm!
TheDoctorCrankenstein
It very much is a political movement and ideology. Please educate yourself.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post%E2%80%93World_War_II_anti-fascism
CorgisButtsDriveMeNuts
Call it as you wish, but bottom line is very simple: if you are not antifascist you are fascist.
januarylover
It's test of basic humanity
busterfixxitt
Alright, what's the second biggest threat? How many THEY got? Do you have that number? Antifa got to be bigger than that; right?
I guess I'm wondering, 'By what metric did you determine they were the biggest threat?'.
Since terrorism is 'the use of terror to effect political change', what are the politics of ANTIFA?
How many terrorist attacks have ANTIFA committed? What are the casualty numbers? How much property damage, or distribution of the economy have they caused?
DerpMeister
Confront him with right-wing terrorists and organizations. Let him try to explain how it's possible that right-terrorism is worse in every measurable aspect, but Antifa is supposedly the bigger threat.
DOcelot1
Like all these claims - it's a mirror
kkanne20
this country is doomed
cgt9803
Dumb fucks voted it away to fascists for a hollow promise of cheaper groceries.
PineappleLoopsBroether
It's way worse than it seems.
Bojovnik84
boognish115
He means liberals. He means they are investigating Americans who are not republicans. Swine
androgenoide
PineappleLoopsBroether
I was just gonna go find this. The meme has come to life!
stryhf
Yes!
lurkyloos
Hurch
Exactly
AlwaysDownvotesDogs
Ah yes, the segregated ANTIFA divisions of 1944...
xj4low
My Antifa Grandfather was stationed as a doctor in a hospital ship. I want to say it was supporting Omaha beach assault. My other grandfather and grand-uncle had training to work the bomb sights in B-24's. Then the commander at the training camp found out they could both type and he pulled them for office staff since it was a rare skill at the time.
shitheadtookmyname
I love how North America is invading using indigenous words to honor them, and Britain is like WEAPONS AND THINGS WE USE WEAPONS TO STEAL
mikeatike
Canada is like, uhh a beach in florida?
shitheadtookmyname
I actually thought Juno was based off a tribal name but it's a Roman goddess
boostcreep
Why can’t people, especially lawmakers, question Trump in the same way? Grill that fucker and make him answer to his own lies.
PonyMadness
They can, but they aren't allowed in the meetings/conferences with him. Not only that, but getting close to the president is still a really big deal and the people who would call him out on this shit either wouldn't be allowed in the same room or would be immediately escorted out the moment they start pushing back.
housev1l
If it helps, I'm the AntiFa Pope.
DerpMeister
No, I'm the Antifa Pope. And my wife, she's the Antifa Pope, too.
housev1l
https://media1.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPWE1NzM3M2U1aGs1bnJxNTlmMmJueDNicDEwN2RlMHdkbW9lN3Vtc2diaXBvdDE2NiZlcD12MV9naWZzX3NlYXJjaCZjdD1n/dSY9GgU0fWS8o/200w.webp
januarylover
I'm the Antifa Jester, stick that on your list, FBI
TI99Kitty
I'm the Antifa Shaman. So where do I go to get my buffalo headdress and my medicine stick?
ourari
See y'all at Antifa HQ.
Bizarkly
"Got through the roadblock / We blended into the crowd..."
Sonicschilidogs
Shame, when my great grandpa was a member the HQ was the white house, now it's just in a shed behind George Soro's house.
sonicthemariomasterchief
That's where we pick up our checks right? From the no Kings protest.
CallMeMcGyver
I'm bringing cookies this time... I was going to bring donuts, but they had a sale at Costco.
ourari
Great! Can't bash the fash on an empty stomach.
johneventually1
Stomash
InfocalypseRising
It drives me insane that the guys asking the questions never go “so you don’t know? You don’t actually have any proof of anything? You’re just making shit up?”
ChrisCorona
Kinda' did with the "I know you wouldn't come here and make a claim you couldn't prove...... but you did." But you are right, it should have been pinpoint, nailed down: "You are simply making crap up. Call out the boogeyman- ANTIFA when you have no other answer."
Ivellius
In this case he does at the end, though maybe not so bluntly.
"Sir, you wouldn't come to this committee and say something that you can't prove. I know. I know you wouldn't do that. ... But you did."
InfocalypseRising
yeah, I saw that. It's too polite and "i'm not mad i'm just disappointed." What I want is somebody to flat out say "you are a liar."
Ivellius
That's absolutely fair. I do think Rep. Thompson has some sharpness at the very end there (but I also might be biased as he's my rep).
JohnWickdidnothingwrong
We are going to have to purge the government like a kinder gentler Stalin when this is over, if this is ever over.
TheDoctorCrankenstein
We don't need to purge it. We need to tear the whole fucking structure down and create something fundamentally different because, clearly, the way we have been doing it is fucking flawed.
CallMeMcGyver
Why kinder and gentler?... Not disagreeing per se, just curious what entities them to anything kind or gentle? It's completely a hypothetical question. Completely. Absolutely not implying anything at all. Completely. Totally. For sure.
JohnWickdidnothingwrong
Stalin was sloppy and largely, um, removed the wrong people, causing himself bigger problems than he cured. We must be more careful.
CallMeMcGyver
"Carefully and precisely"... ok, much better... that's good. I'm not saying I'm advocating for ruthlessly and with the express purpose of making an frightening example out of said individuals that will set an standard for future such criminals to understand the consequences of such endeavors... totally not saying that... absolutely, totally not... nope, not at all... totally an academic thought exercise. Totally.
AlwaysDownvotesDogs
Stalin was a murderous and imperialistic piece of shit, just like Hitler. Read a fucking book and you'll learn that only death kept him from having his own go at the Jews.
JohnWickdidnothingwrong
Why don't you go have whatever fit you're having somewhere else.
SomebodythatIusedtonope
If Anti Fascist are the enemy of the State you mean that..you mean that……..
djj25
I wonder if he even knows what antifa stands for
thinkybrainpains
I’m not antifa. I am anti anti antifa
ParaSiddha
If by Antifa you mean the Eastern European phenomena of violence, I'm pretty sure that doesn't actually exist here at all... we are organizing against a wannabe dictator through things like No Kings but that's not the same thing.
wisher1977
As a former GySgt in the Marines, I’m antifa!
johneventually1
🤏
SevereInsanity013
Only a matter of time before we are all enemies of the state!
HellaPictureSeeing
He prob should've been like, they're headquarters is the internet and there approx 100 million antifa in the country right now. Your child could be a terrorist, just ask and find out. They sure are if they don't support the blind missile/bombings of potential fisherme... I mean narcos
CheeseB0t
they are headquarters is the internet
gesel
Oof, if only he had asked him to state that the administration is against antifa, that under the administration the fbi is aganst antifa, that he is against antifa, anti-antifa, and then forced him to define, for the record, what anti fa stands for.
And then just call him a fucking nazi to his fucking face.
Roqinn
They were so close....
TheHappyFrenchCanadian
This is actually my stategy when dealing with these anto woke things now, "i don't understand what you are talking about, please explain" it actually kinda work
Ariltongadottir
Has anyone known what woke is so far?
MikeRInternetTraveler
Also a great tactic when someone pulls, “It’s just a joke” after saying something horrible. “Oh, I don’t get it. What’s the joke?” It’s fun to watch them backpedal and try and explain it, dancing around without saying, “It’s a racist joke about how I think black people are monkeys” or some such bullshit.
TheHappyFrenchCanadian
Good tactic! I will try it
DracarysBlackfyre
Ive had minimal sucsess with this strategy. People will confidently tell me woke means pushing trans agenda on kids, then when i show that is strsight up not happening they just pivot to the next talking point
TheHappyFrenchCanadian
That's still what happening most of the time, but it still usually force them to think, even for a second before shifting and that moment is totally worth it
SuperFerret
No, you see, it's the socialist left wingers who are the actual fascists even though fascism is by definition a right wing position.
ParaSiddha
This isn't actually true, there are left wing fascist regimes... this has killed at least as many as capitalism historically... the key is devaluing people for your ideal.
ParaSiddha
I HATE selfish mindsets, but that doesn't mean I don't want to include them in the benefits of my ideal...
ParaSiddha
Indeed, I think something like social democracy would result in a better life for even the wealthiest as a practical reality.
You'd just have no number to point at to pretend you matter more.
SuperFerret
Authoritarianism is not equivalent to fascism. Fascism is very specifically right wing.
ParaSiddha
I would agree authoritarianism is right wing, but fascism is specifically about means of execution... left wing fascism tends to have features like nationalism that mirror the right.
ParaSiddha
For instance China is arguably a left wing fascist regime.
FellaWithUmbrella
AlwaysDownvotesDogs
Why are they all white? There's a reason...
FellaWithUmbrella
USA was in many parts segregated back then. So?
TheDoctorCrankenstein
Yea, the ONLY army that was segregated, and treated is black soldiers like trash so much other nations had issues with it and some soldiers even reported feeling safer during deployment than they did back home. You do realize how that is a fucking issue, right? Stop glazing the US. We aren't the good guys. Don't forget the Nazis based their methods on Jim Crow
FellaWithUmbrella
South Africa?
ThisIsAllYouCouldComeUpWith
Why the emphasis on MEN?
UnattendedDeviant
And yet, he did.
I just saw a report on MS Now that reported some of his FBI fellow agents were shaking their heads after his hearing and wondering how he so quickly became a mouthpiece for maga claims.
StewedTomaters
I'm never going to get used to "MS Now." You guys are all going to have to repeat it to make me do say it
PonyMadness
Because they'll get anyone who will lie for them in front of the mic and if they fuck it all up, they toss them to the side.
swephisto
Each one is important to the MAGA propaganda machine. "If a lie is only printed often enough, it becomes a quasi-truth, and if such a truth is repeated often enough, it becomes an article of belief, a dogma". Don't let them say it unopposed.
Eyeetsass
Bingo. Disposable Heroes.
Dannyalcatraz
Disposable ZEROS.
rbudrick
When the day before the meeting, the administration blackmailed him with something horrible, I'm guessing
e2theWB
I think they've just gotten so bold with the lies they tell the Maggots at home that they forget they can't pull that shit on people who have ears and a brain.
katzohki
I believe their excuse would be that they can't give details on an active investigation for national security reasons. An excuse that has been prevalent since the PATRIOT act.
beeeeeeerkaaaaa
To be fair, ANTIFA is the biggest domestic threat. If this Trump administration doesn't quit violating people's civil rights and all the treason and sedition, there might be a rebellion. A violent one.
TsubakiTragic
in the USA?
no chance
TheDoctorCrankenstein
Yup. The people here are so uneducated in political discourse and have no sense of class solidarity. They will sleepwalk themselves into fascism because they can't let go of the fact the culture they grew up on enabled this shit fest we are currently going through.
They don't want to actually change. They just want the old status quo where they weren't the ones being oppressed
beeeeeeerkaaaaa
One can dream.
JimmieRustlin
That's why they call it the American Dream. Because you have to be asleep to believe it.
mmotky
Link?
UnattendedDeviant
Sorry, like I mentioned, I saw it while watching TV, MS Now. On Nicole Wallace show I believe. Just something a reporter who supposedly had inside department information.
e2theWB
Thanks for the response! I also didn't realize MS Now was a show, so I had the same Q. Now I can research better.
UnattendedDeviant
I think "MS Now" is MSNBC's new network name after it was sold. But her show is "Dateline: White House." One of the better shows on there, in my opinion.