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RyanH42
People are still mad about Captain Marvel? Wow, get a life.
somnif
Wonder if she'll show up in the Kamala Khan series, or just be referenced.
therealcaptkirk
Animorphs
I liked it more than either Antman movie, and about the same as the first Thor.
definitelynotaspider
Worth remembering the part of the movie where she does that she is still brainwashed by the bad guys
pallyman
She starts the movie as an arrogant C**t and ends the movie as an arrogant C**t with powers. "She's got amazing character development."
OphelianAshe
I quite enjoyed Captain Marvel. Brie was accused of being wooden, but her character is constantly told to hide her emotions.
JoinTheButterflyCultToday123
All hail the queen
CherubCow
markhonnor
All hail Mothra! https://youtube.com/watch?v=Jmoa13TG2TY
TrombeOverride
Let's be honest, from the narrative standpoint, assaulting people that are no threat is not Captain Marvel's problem. The problem is lack⫸
⫸of personality and character development. She shown more personality during the five minutes she was in Endgame than in her own whole film.
Grier2217
btfo by a monster from a generation ago
copingcabana
Brie Larson is a cheese thief.
keykilla
Hah. I see what you did there.
Melancholy69
Finally some appreciation for Mothra.
Them3OtherGuys
Unless you have a pair of fairy twins lying around, we're stuck with what we got.
Swingset90
So your saying she's just an American police officer
SpammaJamma
Mothra is sexier too.
Yoogeethebeardawg
Yeah. Not like the bar's set high on this one, tho.
EruditeLeanings
All hail Mothra
TheCyclingEngineer
Why did you say that name! Marthaaaaa
jennym123
Are we bringing back Captain Marvel hate?
Qualtagh
I don't get why guys are so into the self-sacrificing woman trope. It's overdone. Woman can be strong and also live through the credits.
ArkoneAxon
It's not about the self-sacrifice. It's about how a giant insect makes for a more likeable female heroic protagonist than Captain Karen.
Hey, I'm as much of a monsterfucker as anyone, but we must make an effort to still appreciate human-presenting characters.
Rapturesfall
I remember reading something from Michelle Rodriguez about how she basically had choices with her characters, either she is a pretty, bit
Ultimately useless heroine, portraying femininity, or she could act more "butch" and they would kill her off.
TheResolver
I enjoy how angry Captain Marvel makes the insecure men of the internet. Everything can't be all dudes, waifus, and fedoras m'lady boys...
Mister0j
Ur right there are some incels lol.. but majority are just marvel fans that didn’t like the movie. The problem is every critical opinion is
Seen as an attack on women.. the movie was boring and I didn’t like it. That’s it.. stop acting like a movie flopped because of women hating
If the movie is good then it’s good..
MisterD90
I've tried to watch Captain Marvel twice and just can't get more than 20mins in
Must be hard to be so narrow minded you can't even enjoy an action movie.
Probably because it is proper shit
prolurker2077
In his defense, it's a bad movie
Is a terrible movie ahaha.. my wife didn’t like it and she also didn’t like Charlie’s angels.. a bad movie is a bad movie.
CoarseAndSalty
Which person did Captain Marvel attack that wasn't a threat?
nickoftime90
It might be referring to the alternate scene with the biker
gaidinbdj
The biker. While her use of force was technically justified under real-world law, people found it jarring because he wasn't actually a...
...threat. She then went on to steal his motorcycle. The director tried to defend it by saying it was an homage to Terminator, but it...
...was just a really out-of-place moment for the hero she was supposed to be. I believe the robbery part was cut from later edits.
volantredx
The issue that the internet has with CM and Brie Larson is so over the top it's laughable.
ShouldersDeepInAHorse
But they're celebrites! They should be like angels, perfect and uncapable of flaw, they can't be judged as people, they must be hanged!
DynamaxAgumon
It's probably in the bottom half of Marvel movies but I thought it was fine. Compared to most non-marvel superhero movies it was good.
Erikc007
There are like 3 marvel movies that are good
MinnesotaTom
and you if you rate all marvel cinematic movies, excluding hulks, none those are a below a 6/10. Yes, even iron man 2.
Thor 2 is probably my least favorite and even it is watchable. I have watched it multiple times. It has some really good individual scenes
nonCanadianGoose
Now that Disney has the X-men, she’ll be quickly replaced by Rogue
I know room gets most of her powers from Ms Marvel in the comics but honestly Storm is a better candidate to replace Miss Marvel in the MCU.
LightningMcQueef
They haven’t developed rogue in the X-men movies yet and if they do the whole Carol Danvers arc it would be confusing at this point
The X-men movies aren’t a even thing anymore. It’s in their best interest to sprinkle them in occasionally to test reactions
FasterSnake
It would be a good way to end her arc though after a few more movies rouge takes over.
GayCanadianJew
What happens in the comics? Does rogue kill captain marvel and steal her powers?
She gets sick and dies. On her death bed rouge takes her powers.
Puts her in a coma.
Why?
Everfearful
CM is even worse in the comics. Civil War 2 is just her beating up superheroes trying to stop her arresting people for precrime.
Hashtaglibertarian
She’s essentially a female Tony Stark.
The civil war comics in general are pretty much awful across the board. Only one I can think of that came away looking half decent is Thor
DomeGuy
Nah, that's just "event" books. They all suck. CM's standalone is great.
jackal12345
I actually couldn't get through Civil War 2 cause of her assholishness.
PainKJane
Yeah, it’s pretty bad. She went from being victimized by rogue and piecing herself back together to accidentally putting Tony in a coma
It's so bad that Nazi Captain America gives a speech at the end about his villainous plans... and he sounds better than the "heroes."
SevTai
Didn't she threaten to kill Spidey's entire family for something he didn't do & had no control over, or was that an edit?
glogacrestlighter
No. She simply asked Miles to surrender himself. They all had a shared vision of him beating Captain America to a pulp. (Pre-brainwash arc)
Vision they saw was a prelude to Captain America being Hydra arc
Ah, ok. I remember seeing a page with him trying to surrender & getting a force field put on him by someone & marvel losing her shit at him.
Guessing it was an edit then.
Basically everyone is terrible in the comics.
phoenix777
Except spiderman.
Clockworkdancerobot
See: Superman through the last near century easy.
MiniYams
And that's even more true in both civil wars, that's kind of the point.
Except Doctor Strange, who basically said "...fuck this nonsense" and nope's out. And Thor, who only showed up to punch Tony.
Tony going to new asgard to try to recruit thor is one of the best scenes in the entire comics. Entire bit is summed up with "Bitch please".
MrJimmyRustles
Is precrime similar to precum?
HappyEngineer
Tfw you're so excited to rob a bank that you commit a string of traffic infractions on the way there
Ghostlogicz
Minority report
B3N15
Basically.
getyourfruitoffmeyoudamndirtygrapes
Hey look it's the 13 year old kid who thinks this is how you write a funny joke.
Hey look it's the 30 year old who didn't amount to anything, gave up early, and fakes superiority by bullying people through his PC screen.
You can project whatever feelings you want, I've got a pretty nice life. When you get older, make sure you learn how to write less cringey.
DriftingSol
God. Damn. Someone get the fire department. Im seening a fuck ton of burning over here.
LuffyDmonkey1
Holy fucking shit bro, did you have to be so savage and rape this fool, ty for not holding back lol
Spooner1
In a school zone, yes
nipplepanties
MakeItBackAlright
Damn son, you stuck the landing
number2commenter
Thats what you get for going too fast
DepressedYetBlessed
iGotFOLDERS
v
Eridianne
Wow
Wraid
Rabidbacon
It has returned!
mitharas
TheGriffin
Deadpoolio7
StevenFarmer
etherbunny41
Eh, she got a treasure trail. I can respect that.
VainyBangStick
BryanLaserEpee
I DON'T KNOW WHICH ONE IS WORSE
cliffjumper83
I bet she makes for a rather energetic cuddler.
thatlazylizard
I liked CM. I dont get the hate
MoonyT
Its in my top 10 favorite MCU movies. I saw it twice in theaters. Might get kicked out by the end of phase 4 with spiderman 3+ dr strange 2.
at least those are the ones im excited for. thor4 im worried for, and im pretty sure i wont like eternals. Idk anything about Shang-Chi.
It was middle of the road. Not worth the violent reaction it got online.
michealangleo
I liked CM. I do understand the hate
sordatos
It was fine, but did lack something, I'm not sure what.
AxelZonvolt
I don't mind the actor. I didn't even mind the CM film. But then there's end game and it's just obvious on a rewatch that the character 1/?
is SO STRONG with no drawbacks (hulk) or potential for character growth (thor) that the character's presence in the story begins 2/?
to overshadow everyone else who isn't as strong. And this is why she has so little screentime compared to everyone else. There's no room 3/?
or place for her in the time heist. She comes and goes and has legitimate reasons to simply be Not There with her superman problem until 4/?
she's needed to use said immense strength against the main villain of the franchise, his flagship and his entire army. And that's not a 5/?
Johnnythm123
Right I'm not a big fan of the actress bit she did a solid job
I watched her on HotOnes on YouTube and it make me like her allot more. Sean evens always does that with celebs haha
nickwinters
I don't get the hate. But I give it a solid meh. Except for Goose. Goose stole the show. A+ for Goose.
Honestly 90% is just shot her actor said while being self entitled and how every criticism is reflected with why don’t you respect women
Jbelkin
You mean like how this comment proves her point? How dare a woman be so entitled she has opinions?
IAmDrBanner
No, the character is ass (At least in the comics). Dont know enough about Brie Larson to have an opinion on her as a person.
imnotryan
She got on stage and told people of a certain gender/race that her movies aren't made for them and she doesn't care what they think.
alex5775
I liked it too. I think it's a large part that people who have strong opinions on comics and movies based on comics tend to overlap with 1/
Sexist incels. Certainly not 1:1, plenty of great comic lovers and plenty of comic hating incels, but there's a lot of overlap
Nerds tend to repeat bullying they might have gotten when young, gate keeping and shit.
Andrzhel
Nope. Give me female lead / heroes like Ripley, Sarah Connor, Evelyn Salt (if you need a comic example), Clarice Starling any day. CM was 1
just not a good movie imho and stiff acting.. and even CM in the (civil war) comics is a authoritarian figure (beating up resisting supies 2
for being on the wrong side) I can't relate too. If i want a fem superhero, give me a scarlett witch, Wasp or Black Widow movie any day. 3
I hate it when people bring up those two as a shining example. Ripley was written as a male.
So? S. Weaver did an amazing job, and it created a amazing role model. Following your line of thought, fem Thor is taboo?
FlatPlutoSociety
People just hate Brie Larson. I liked the movie a lot. She and Sam Jackson had great chemistry, and the movie was really fun.
jherazob
Pretty much
Wankathon
Camembert Larson is much better
KingKelloggTheWaffleHaggler
I like brie in some movies. But cm was just a bad movie.
They do? I think she a pretty good actress.
Metatality
she said some feminist stuff around when the movie came out and a bunch of guys shit themselves
I'm shocked!!
Blackmage665
I mean, there are a lot of people whove done work on how the movie fails as a story and as something to empower women, but sure blame incels
This is about the actress specifically, not the movie.
Attaroo
Funny, I like Brie, but didn't like the movie. One, I'm tired of hurting men being funny - you can make a female character strong without
making the men weak. Two, the storyline with the Skrulls is problematic, because it kills Invasion, unless you want the proud boys to
scream, 'See, look what happens when you let illegals in.' Both female writers never read the comics, both were fired b4 the end, and it
had to be finished by committee. And it showed.
You mean when she fights the villian or something?
FireSolvesProblems
Is she really that disliked? I thought the movie was just kinda weak & came off like a Phase 1 movie.
Phase 1 was better made than most marvel films.
I liked her movie. Bit uneven, and lots of fluff that could've been tightened up, but I enjoyed the central plot thread
Dragonfury5
It reeked too much of female power to me. More like focusing on her being a woman instead of just an actual superhero who happens to be 1/
/2 a woman, which would be far better imo. Strength no matter gender, not gender meaning strength
Fuck that she's a strong woman. In a world dominated by strong men, being a strong woman is definitely a good thing. Give women cool 1/
Yes cool and powerful is cool. But cm didn't fill the role.
And powerful roll models too
Ripley, Sarah Connor, Lara Croft, Black Widow, Scarlett Witch, Clarice Starling.. all more interesting and better played then CM.
We do need more strong women. But not like that. Black Widow and Scarlett Witch are pretty badass and strong, but that's because of their 1/
.. and that is just a short list of characters i typed without thinking long about... i am sure i remember more awesome fem figures..
dasoffendor
negative perception of the actress has translated into negative perception of the movie
oblimo
Except the only people sufficiently pissed off at the actress to discolor their opinion of the movie likely have issues of their own.
fully agree
Oh, there was plenty wrong with the film on its own merits. Though her antics didn't help.
MCU movies are mediocre if you ask me. Doctor Strange and Black Panther, though, were a pleasure for me to watch, for some reason.
They were both good films. The protagonists were likeable and had genuine character growth, the villains had understandable motivations, etc
RyanH42
People are still mad about Captain Marvel? Wow, get a life.
somnif
Wonder if she'll show up in the Kamala Khan series, or just be referenced.
therealcaptkirk
Animorphs
I liked it more than either Antman movie, and about the same as the first Thor.
definitelynotaspider
Worth remembering the part of the movie where she does that she is still brainwashed by the bad guys
pallyman
She starts the movie as an arrogant C**t and ends the movie as an arrogant C**t with powers. "She's got amazing character development."
OphelianAshe
I quite enjoyed Captain Marvel. Brie was accused of being wooden, but her character is constantly told to hide her emotions.
JoinTheButterflyCultToday123
All hail the queen
CherubCow
markhonnor
All hail Mothra! https://youtube.com/watch?v=Jmoa13TG2TY
TrombeOverride
Let's be honest, from the narrative standpoint, assaulting people that are no threat is not Captain Marvel's problem. The problem is lack⫸
TrombeOverride
⫸of personality and character development. She shown more personality during the five minutes she was in Endgame than in her own whole film.
Grier2217
btfo by a monster from a generation ago
copingcabana
Brie Larson is a cheese thief.
keykilla
Hah. I see what you did there.
Melancholy69
Finally some appreciation for Mothra.
Them3OtherGuys
Unless you have a pair of fairy twins lying around, we're stuck with what we got.
Swingset90
So your saying she's just an American police officer
SpammaJamma
Mothra is sexier too.
Yoogeethebeardawg
Yeah. Not like the bar's set high on this one, tho.
EruditeLeanings
All hail Mothra
TheCyclingEngineer
Why did you say that name! Marthaaaaa
jennym123
Are we bringing back Captain Marvel hate?
Qualtagh
I don't get why guys are so into the self-sacrificing woman trope. It's overdone. Woman can be strong and also live through the credits.
ArkoneAxon
It's not about the self-sacrifice. It's about how a giant insect makes for a more likeable female heroic protagonist than Captain Karen.
Qualtagh
Hey, I'm as much of a monsterfucker as anyone, but we must make an effort to still appreciate human-presenting characters.
Rapturesfall
I remember reading something from Michelle Rodriguez about how she basically had choices with her characters, either she is a pretty, bit
Rapturesfall
Ultimately useless heroine, portraying femininity, or she could act more "butch" and they would kill her off.
TheResolver
I enjoy how angry Captain Marvel makes the insecure men of the internet. Everything can't be all dudes, waifus, and fedoras m'lady boys...
Mister0j
Ur right there are some incels lol.. but majority are just marvel fans that didn’t like the movie. The problem is every critical opinion is
Mister0j
Seen as an attack on women.. the movie was boring and I didn’t like it. That’s it.. stop acting like a movie flopped because of women hating
Mister0j
If the movie is good then it’s good..
MisterD90
I've tried to watch Captain Marvel twice and just can't get more than 20mins in
TheResolver
Must be hard to be so narrow minded you can't even enjoy an action movie.
MisterD90
Probably because it is proper shit
prolurker2077
In his defense, it's a bad movie
Mister0j
Is a terrible movie ahaha.. my wife didn’t like it and she also didn’t like Charlie’s angels.. a bad movie is a bad movie.
CoarseAndSalty
Which person did Captain Marvel attack that wasn't a threat?
nickoftime90
It might be referring to the alternate scene with the biker
gaidinbdj
The biker. While her use of force was technically justified under real-world law, people found it jarring because he wasn't actually a...
gaidinbdj
...threat. She then went on to steal his motorcycle. The director tried to defend it by saying it was an homage to Terminator, but it...
gaidinbdj
...was just a really out-of-place moment for the hero she was supposed to be. I believe the robbery part was cut from later edits.
volantredx
The issue that the internet has with CM and Brie Larson is so over the top it's laughable.
ShouldersDeepInAHorse
But they're celebrites! They should be like angels, perfect and uncapable of flaw, they can't be judged as people, they must be hanged!
DynamaxAgumon
It's probably in the bottom half of Marvel movies but I thought it was fine. Compared to most non-marvel superhero movies it was good.
Erikc007
There are like 3 marvel movies that are good
MinnesotaTom
and you if you rate all marvel cinematic movies, excluding hulks, none those are a below a 6/10. Yes, even iron man 2.
DynamaxAgumon
Thor 2 is probably my least favorite and even it is watchable. I have watched it multiple times. It has some really good individual scenes
nonCanadianGoose
Now that Disney has the X-men, she’ll be quickly replaced by Rogue
DynamaxAgumon
I know room gets most of her powers from Ms Marvel in the comics but honestly Storm is a better candidate to replace Miss Marvel in the MCU.
LightningMcQueef
They haven’t developed rogue in the X-men movies yet and if they do the whole Carol Danvers arc it would be confusing at this point
nonCanadianGoose
The X-men movies aren’t a even thing anymore. It’s in their best interest to sprinkle them in occasionally to test reactions
FasterSnake
It would be a good way to end her arc though after a few more movies rouge takes over.
GayCanadianJew
What happens in the comics? Does rogue kill captain marvel and steal her powers?
FasterSnake
She gets sick and dies. On her death bed rouge takes her powers.
nonCanadianGoose
Puts her in a coma.
GayCanadianJew
Why?
Everfearful
CM is even worse in the comics. Civil War 2 is just her beating up superheroes trying to stop her arresting people for precrime.
Hashtaglibertarian
She’s essentially a female Tony Stark.
somnif
The civil war comics in general are pretty much awful across the board. Only one I can think of that came away looking half decent is Thor
DomeGuy
Nah, that's just "event" books. They all suck. CM's standalone is great.
jackal12345
I actually couldn't get through Civil War 2 cause of her assholishness.
PainKJane
Yeah, it’s pretty bad. She went from being victimized by rogue and piecing herself back together to accidentally putting Tony in a coma
ArkoneAxon
It's so bad that Nazi Captain America gives a speech at the end about his villainous plans... and he sounds better than the "heroes."
SevTai
Didn't she threaten to kill Spidey's entire family for something he didn't do & had no control over, or was that an edit?
glogacrestlighter
No. She simply asked Miles to surrender himself. They all had a shared vision of him beating Captain America to a pulp. (Pre-brainwash arc)
glogacrestlighter
Vision they saw was a prelude to Captain America being Hydra arc
SevTai
Ah, ok. I remember seeing a page with him trying to surrender & getting a force field put on him by someone & marvel losing her shit at him.
SevTai
Guessing it was an edit then.
jennym123
Basically everyone is terrible in the comics.
phoenix777
Except spiderman.
Clockworkdancerobot
See: Superman through the last near century easy.
MiniYams
And that's even more true in both civil wars, that's kind of the point.
somnif
Except Doctor Strange, who basically said "...fuck this nonsense" and nope's out. And Thor, who only showed up to punch Tony.
MiniYams
Tony going to new asgard to try to recruit thor is one of the best scenes in the entire comics. Entire bit is summed up with "Bitch please".
MrJimmyRustles
Is precrime similar to precum?
HappyEngineer
Tfw you're so excited to rob a bank that you commit a string of traffic infractions on the way there
Ghostlogicz
Minority report
B3N15
Basically.
getyourfruitoffmeyoudamndirtygrapes
Hey look it's the 13 year old kid who thinks this is how you write a funny joke.
ShouldersDeepInAHorse
Hey look it's the 30 year old who didn't amount to anything, gave up early, and fakes superiority by bullying people through his PC screen.
getyourfruitoffmeyoudamndirtygrapes
You can project whatever feelings you want, I've got a pretty nice life. When you get older, make sure you learn how to write less cringey.
DriftingSol
God. Damn. Someone get the fire department. Im seening a fuck ton of burning over here.
LuffyDmonkey1
Holy fucking shit bro, did you have to be so savage and rape this fool, ty for not holding back lol
Spooner1
In a school zone, yes
nipplepanties
MakeItBackAlright
Damn son, you stuck the landing
number2commenter
Thats what you get for going too fast
DepressedYetBlessed
iGotFOLDERS
Eridianne
Wow
Wraid
Rabidbacon
It has returned!
mitharas
TheGriffin
Deadpoolio7
StevenFarmer
etherbunny41
Eh, she got a treasure trail. I can respect that.
VainyBangStick
Everfearful
BryanLaserEpee
I DON'T KNOW WHICH ONE IS WORSE
cliffjumper83
etherbunny41
I bet she makes for a rather energetic cuddler.
thatlazylizard
I liked CM. I dont get the hate
MoonyT
Its in my top 10 favorite MCU movies. I saw it twice in theaters. Might get kicked out by the end of phase 4 with spiderman 3+ dr strange 2.
MoonyT
at least those are the ones im excited for. thor4 im worried for, and im pretty sure i wont like eternals. Idk anything about Shang-Chi.
RyanH42
It was middle of the road. Not worth the violent reaction it got online.
michealangleo
I liked CM. I do understand the hate
sordatos
It was fine, but did lack something, I'm not sure what.
AxelZonvolt
I don't mind the actor. I didn't even mind the CM film. But then there's end game and it's just obvious on a rewatch that the character 1/?
AxelZonvolt
is SO STRONG with no drawbacks (hulk) or potential for character growth (thor) that the character's presence in the story begins 2/?
AxelZonvolt
to overshadow everyone else who isn't as strong. And this is why she has so little screentime compared to everyone else. There's no room 3/?
AxelZonvolt
or place for her in the time heist. She comes and goes and has legitimate reasons to simply be Not There with her superman problem until 4/?
AxelZonvolt
she's needed to use said immense strength against the main villain of the franchise, his flagship and his entire army. And that's not a 5/?
Johnnythm123
Right I'm not a big fan of the actress bit she did a solid job
thatlazylizard
I watched her on HotOnes on YouTube and it make me like her allot more. Sean evens always does that with celebs haha
nickwinters
I don't get the hate. But I give it a solid meh. Except for Goose. Goose stole the show. A+ for Goose.
Ghostlogicz
Honestly 90% is just shot her actor said while being self entitled and how every criticism is reflected with why don’t you respect women
Jbelkin
You mean like how this comment proves her point? How dare a woman be so entitled she has opinions?
IAmDrBanner
No, the character is ass (At least in the comics). Dont know enough about Brie Larson to have an opinion on her as a person.
imnotryan
She got on stage and told people of a certain gender/race that her movies aren't made for them and she doesn't care what they think.
alex5775
I liked it too. I think it's a large part that people who have strong opinions on comics and movies based on comics tend to overlap with 1/
alex5775
Sexist incels. Certainly not 1:1, plenty of great comic lovers and plenty of comic hating incels, but there's a lot of overlap
sordatos
Nerds tend to repeat bullying they might have gotten when young, gate keeping and shit.
Andrzhel
Nope. Give me female lead / heroes like Ripley, Sarah Connor, Evelyn Salt (if you need a comic example), Clarice Starling any day. CM was 1
Andrzhel
just not a good movie imho and stiff acting.. and even CM in the (civil war) comics is a authoritarian figure (beating up resisting supies 2
Andrzhel
for being on the wrong side) I can't relate too. If i want a fem superhero, give me a scarlett witch, Wasp or Black Widow movie any day. 3
thatlazylizard
I hate it when people bring up those two as a shining example. Ripley was written as a male.
Andrzhel
So? S. Weaver did an amazing job, and it created a amazing role model. Following your line of thought, fem Thor is taboo?
FlatPlutoSociety
People just hate Brie Larson. I liked the movie a lot. She and Sam Jackson had great chemistry, and the movie was really fun.
jherazob
Pretty much
Wankathon
Camembert Larson is much better
KingKelloggTheWaffleHaggler
I like brie in some movies. But cm was just a bad movie.
sordatos
They do? I think she a pretty good actress.
Metatality
she said some feminist stuff around when the movie came out and a bunch of guys shit themselves
sordatos
I'm shocked!!
Blackmage665
I mean, there are a lot of people whove done work on how the movie fails as a story and as something to empower women, but sure blame incels
Metatality
This is about the actress specifically, not the movie.
Attaroo
Funny, I like Brie, but didn't like the movie. One, I'm tired of hurting men being funny - you can make a female character strong without
Attaroo
making the men weak. Two, the storyline with the Skrulls is problematic, because it kills Invasion, unless you want the proud boys to
Attaroo
scream, 'See, look what happens when you let illegals in.' Both female writers never read the comics, both were fired b4 the end, and it
Attaroo
had to be finished by committee. And it showed.
sordatos
You mean when she fights the villian or something?
FireSolvesProblems
Is she really that disliked? I thought the movie was just kinda weak & came off like a Phase 1 movie.
KingKelloggTheWaffleHaggler
Phase 1 was better made than most marvel films.
somnif
I liked her movie. Bit uneven, and lots of fluff that could've been tightened up, but I enjoyed the central plot thread
Dragonfury5
It reeked too much of female power to me. More like focusing on her being a woman instead of just an actual superhero who happens to be 1/
Dragonfury5
/2 a woman, which would be far better imo. Strength no matter gender, not gender meaning strength
alex5775
Fuck that she's a strong woman. In a world dominated by strong men, being a strong woman is definitely a good thing. Give women cool 1/
KingKelloggTheWaffleHaggler
Yes cool and powerful is cool. But cm didn't fill the role.
alex5775
And powerful roll models too
Andrzhel
Ripley, Sarah Connor, Lara Croft, Black Widow, Scarlett Witch, Clarice Starling.. all more interesting and better played then CM.
Dragonfury5
We do need more strong women. But not like that. Black Widow and Scarlett Witch are pretty badass and strong, but that's because of their 1/
Andrzhel
.. and that is just a short list of characters i typed without thinking long about... i am sure i remember more awesome fem figures..
dasoffendor
negative perception of the actress has translated into negative perception of the movie
oblimo
Except the only people sufficiently pissed off at the actress to discolor their opinion of the movie likely have issues of their own.
dasoffendor
fully agree
ArkoneAxon
Oh, there was plenty wrong with the film on its own merits. Though her antics didn't help.
oblimo
MCU movies are mediocre if you ask me. Doctor Strange and Black Panther, though, were a pleasure for me to watch, for some reason.
ArkoneAxon
They were both good films. The protagonists were likeable and had genuine character growth, the villains had understandable motivations, etc