70 enemy attacks in last day.

Apr 30, 2017 9:56 AM

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Russia's hybrid military forces attacked Ukrainian army positions in Donbas 70 times in the past 24 hours, with two Ukrainian soldiers reported as killed in action (KIA) and six as wounded in action (WIA)

In the Mariupol sector, the militants opened fire from 120mm and 82mm mortars, Zu-23-2 anti-aircraft guns, and grenade launchers of various types near the town of Krasnohorivka. The Ukrainian fortified positions near the village of Vodiane came under fire from 120mm and 82mm mortars, infantry fighting vehicles, grenade launchers, heavy machine guns, and small arms. The defenders of the village of Hnutove were shelled from 82mm mortars, infantry fighting vehicles, and heavy machine guns.

The Ukrainian Marines near the village of Pavlopil came under fire from infantry fighting vehicles, anti-tank grenade launchers, heavy machine guns, and small arms. The Marines stationed near the village of Shyrokyne were attacked with infantry fighting vehicles and armored personnel carriers.
The occupiers fired heavy machine guns on Ukrainian positions near the villages of Lebedynske and Starohnativka, while the defenders of the villages of Talakivka and Novotroyitske came under fire from small arms and rifle-attached grenade launchers.

In the Donetsk sector, the Ukrainian strongholds near the village of Troyitske were attacked with 152mm artillery, Zu-23-2 anti-aircraft guns, 120mm and 82mm mortars, grenade launchers, and heavy machine guns.

Remember, no russian.

9 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 5

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9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

This is still going on!? Thank you for informing +1

9 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

This is a tad dry, could use some sauce @op

9 years ago | Likes 118 Dislikes 8

Look at OPs post history... He/she IS the source.. possibly paid.

9 years ago | Likes 20 Dislikes 3

No one pays you to tell the truth... Keep up the good work OP

9 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 4

Oh there's a huge Ukrainian bias to OP's posts. The whole truth isn't being told, but it's not necessarily all bullshit either.

9 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

[Citation needed]

9 years ago | Likes 393 Dislikes 25

Hard to get citation when most media outlets aren't talking in detail about the war.

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

But like really

9 years ago | Likes 17 Dislikes 1

Underrated comment. I'm so lost in this post.

9 years ago | Likes 45 Dislikes 4

OP post history: 40% uncited anti-russian military posts 60% photos of cheeseburgers. Interesting.

9 years ago | Likes 12 Dislikes 3

Looks like the EU better get off it's @$$ and start funding them or they're going to have RU as a neighbor their too.

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

9 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Upvote for awareness, nothing in the news here that I saw.

9 years ago | Likes 781 Dislikes 34

The US military is very much aware of what's going on at least. Just no public knowledge really

9 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

Maybe it's just not so important ..

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 5

Basically it's not on anyone's agenda so why would it be in the media?

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 3

The news knows there's only one border Americans care about.

9 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 9

He is posting pro nationalist Ukrainian vs pro separatist Russians. Civil war, supported from both sides. They both forbid NGOs help / info.

9 years ago | Likes 98 Dislikes 17

Wouldn't even know that war is happening, regardless of what side the poster is on.

9 years ago | Likes 52 Dislikes 3

You must mean the natives and the terrorists.

9 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 2

I mean all are 'natives'. Conflict has origins beginning of the 20th c. WWII, crisis, then wrong president screwed up, etc.

9 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

As someone who would rather categorize himself as pro Ukraine, there is no way to verify any of these things, on either side.

9 years ago | Likes 25 Dislikes 1

All I know is: War, huh, what is it good for?

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Absolutely nothing!

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Putin's Tactic ; Use trump as distraction, it's very effective

9 years ago | Likes 30 Dislikes 10

That. Makes. No. Sense. How is Putin doing that to distract Europe? Details please?

9 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 7

You misunderstood, Putin is taking advantage of that Europeans react to whatever Trump is doing with USA. So EU doesn't notice Putin as much

9 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 3

You see this, Europe does not. Should we send a post card? What distracted Europe and Obama when Russia invaded Ukraine/ Crimea in 2014?

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

He is a ukro fascist propaganda account lmao check his other posts. Right sektor and asov battailon...

9 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 52

Looks like a bunch of daily life and 'update' pics. Propaganda, yourself.

9 years ago | Likes 37 Dislikes 6

lel do you even know the insignia of right sektor or asov?

9 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 34

Is it in the shape of Mediterranean stuffed squash?

9 years ago | Likes 20 Dislikes 4

Russian supported =/= Russian. And there was a ceasefire, which neither side followed, ain't all one sided sweetheart. They're both fucked.

9 years ago | Likes 16 Dislikes 9

"Both fucked" - am I missing something? UKR forces fight to retain independence, how is this fucked?

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Some of the combat om the frontlines from a few weeks ago of you're interested https://youtu.be/U9X_Bu5MNOw

9 years ago | Likes 19 Dislikes 0

It seems so non-chalant. It didn't even look like they had visible targets. Just shooting to be firing back.

9 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 0

Looked like suppressive fire imo

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

That's sorta how modern wars are fought, afaik. Very rarely do you actually see the enemy you are shooting.

9 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 0

Most fire in combat in indirect.

9 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

70 attacks with 8 casualties? What kind of attacks are these?

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I love Ukraine with all my heart. I hope they pull through this

9 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 3

70 attacks with 6 casualties? Will take awhile for Russia to actually do some dmg here.

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

yah, and i kinda wondered how 24hrs of fighting is "70 attacks". Are they taking 20 minute tea breaks every 3/4 of an hour?

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Where can I find more on this? Google brings up a ton of random things.

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

This has been going on for 3 years. It's called "The war in Donbas," evidently.

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

It's an invasion by Russian Putin-backed forces on the sovereign nation of Ukraine, literally.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

No news on media. keep it up

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

It has started.

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

And the news is still running the same pathetic stories on bullshit that just don't matter. This is fucking depressing.

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

waits! look! over there! some cute lesbian kittens dressed as alligators at their wedding! Squeeeeeeeeeeee!

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I mean should Russia be allowed to take Ukrainian land? Don't think so. Russia is being a real asshole about this.

9 years ago | Likes 523 Dislikes 58

Seems like one could draw parallels between Ukrainian Peninsula and Texas.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 3

It's not that simple. Are Ukrainians allowed to kill Russian nationals on their land? It's not like Russia needs any more land...

9 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 3

You're right. Someone already called shotgun on this "Lebensraum im Osten".

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

It was a toss up between Russia or US oil companies. Ukrainians never had a chance really.

9 years ago | Likes 12 Dislikes 2

To be fair I'm pretty sure US/EU interference threw oil on the flames there. Doubt things would have escalated if they just left it alone.

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 2

Agreed but if you consider their perspective it isn't surprising. NATO has been creeping on their borders and Crimea is tactically signifcnt

9 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 1

The US has been in the middle East for over a fucking decade!

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Ok, I've come to realise that I know dick about this whole conflict but I've heard a lot that Ukrainian forces have been bombing 1/2

9 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

civilians in Donbass this whole time. 2/2

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Totally. They're pulling the americans here

9 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

Can anyone help me I am writing a paper on Crimea secession and the legality. If anyone is familiar and know International Law. Help?

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I mean with 2 KIA's in 70 attacks I doubt they can no matter how much they want to

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

not my business, US is already in enough wars. These smaller wars are just the seeds for a much larger one later.

9 years ago | Likes 19 Dislikes 16

President Trumpski agrees. You're safe unless he thinks it might boost his abysmal polling. Such a weak leader! Sad!

9 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 10

Ukraine owes Russia lots of cash in oil. Russia's collecting, cause Ukraine can't pay. There are two Ukraine factions involved.

9 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 3

We did a soft takeover of the country.

9 years ago | Likes 36 Dislikes 18

didnt usa back neo nazis? hunter biden put in charge of ukranian oil and gas company? not going one way or other but who is fighting russia?

9 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 12

never see anything on news

9 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 7

Your standart regime change plan. Works everytime (except for syria!)

9 years ago | Likes 19 Dislikes 10

And Russia called us on it

9 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 4

If they do, nobody will stop them. Economic sanctions are the only real consequence.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Economic sanctions have actually boosted the internal economy and production, their only consequence is further isolating the population.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Which ends up boosting support for Putin's foreign policies. Kind of backfired imo.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Didn't it cause somewhat of a downturn? Well, that's depressing. So there is literally nothing anyone can do...

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

What if I told you there was somebody who had the means and the will to help Ukraine?

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 13

Yeah because the Americans getting involved totally worked out well for them.

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

Somebody has never heard of Charlie Wilson.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Who?

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

No one has the will, that's why we're just giving TAA support and not entering the fight like Russia.

9 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

Canada special forces 'advisors' say otherwise. But you're half right, Hillary doesn't have the means thanks to the Electoral College.

9 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 2

Podesta doesnt have the means because Hillary lost in the EC.

9 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

Fuck the EC.

9 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

the interesting thing is they signed a pact to never enter the Ukraine, but by calling these forces rebels and not officially Russian 1/2

9 years ago | Likes 222 Dislikes 6

That kind of proxy-military is not secluded to Russia though. US has the SAD, which by far and large does the same job.

9 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 1

Sad, very very sad...

9 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

I bet Ukraine is regretting goving back all of the neuclear weapons in exchange for that pact now.

9 years ago | Likes 40 Dislikes 4

Ukraine had some of the best military assets post breakup and sold them all off. Reap what you sow.

9 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

One of the main reasons why other countries have been slow to help, if willing at all.

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

doing the right thing can be a bitch, fuck me right. the US should send some guys to hold the line, it's not like its the russian armyright?

9 years ago | Likes 18 Dislikes 9

They are being supplied by the Russians though they deny it

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

You first.

9 years ago | Likes 17 Dislikes 4

If your biggest expense is your military and you're not making a presence I don't see the point. Lives lost suck, but again, money is spent

9 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 10

I suppose they could give the Ukrainian government back nuclear arms, but I can't see Trump crossing Putin like that.

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

its like trump wants to be a cool kid so he's willing to do whatever the cooler kid says, its honestly kinda pathetic. if its all trueanyway

9 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 2

All they would need in Ukraine, though, is some proper air support. With the AA the "rebels" have, Ukraine can't operate in the air.

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

troops, they kind of circumvent that treaty...

9 years ago | Likes 159 Dislikes 4

So they're rebels. If they're caught they go to jail, if they die they don't get recognition or state burials right?

9 years ago | Likes 42 Dislikes 1

Except they didn't when they occupied Crimea though ...

9 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 1

lol that lag tho.

9 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 3

If the Russian "rebels" succeed, then what? Russia still can't enter. What's their end game?

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Save Russian civilians from the east of Ukraine.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 2

Russian-aligned buffer states, created by force, since the West insists on aggressive NATO expansion.

9 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

Yes, because Montenegro is such a threat to Putin.

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

And here is how you counter their circumventing. A country steps up to help Ukraine take care of these 'rebels'. (1)

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Then Russia ends up trapped in their bullshit.

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Maybe not

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Bad guys shoot down innocent commercial airliners with missiles from Russia. Cannot be more clear than that.

9 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 5

Best video I found at the time shows the separatist claiming they thought it was enemy fighter jet. The airliner shouldn't of been there.

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Unless you ask the Russian government, cUse they think they didn't!

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

Fuck Putin and his American puppet.

9 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 5

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

President Trump said Russia won't go into Ukraine. Wonder what happened to that?

9 years ago | Likes 18 Dislikes 16

I was really hoping Trump's idiocy would be harmless because he would be surrounded by non-idiots, but...he isn't...

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Not a Trump fan but you clearly don't understand the situation if you don't understand what he was saying. Russia isn't "officially" there.

9 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 6

The deal was already done, it's why we are in Syria.

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

I believe the "Rebels" will try to create some time of non-declared autonomous region from Ukraine, eventually being "claimed" by Russia.

9 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 2

A-They already have and B-No, the Donets people's republic isn't joining the Russian federation.

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 2

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

The new call of duty has sweet graphics. But who wants to play as Ukraine

9 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 2

What's going on?

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

It's an invasion by Russian Putin-backed forces on the sovereign nation of Ukraine, literally.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Not literally. More of a civil war for more autonomy. Most are Ukrainian who feel they are fighting fascism.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

"Russian hybrid military forces" sounds like a setting for a horror movie.

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

who are the good guys? who are the bad guys?

9 years ago | Likes 44 Dislikes 16

'Murica is always the bad guy.

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 15

Neither of them really

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

idk, sitting here in Donetsk, aka newly formed DPR, sucks. no jobs, high prices and city's swarming with armed russian grunts. Russia's bad.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

The one whos in charge doneck are just bandits, the UK side doesnt give a fuck and gonna kill everyone there, the russki also like UK. So1/2

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 8

Everyone there are bad guys killibg civilians 2/2

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 6

Russia. Not only is invading a country bad, but they signed the Budapest Memorandum promising not to in exchange for nuclear weapons.

9 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 4

Memorandum is not a binding legal thing. It's a memo. Memo is in it's name. Is a polite way for a country to say "i'll think about it".

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

a lot of bad guys on every side, and there arent just 2 sides to this as you might assume

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Russia and the EU, the former for the attacking and the latter for doing nothing to cage Russian aggression.

9 years ago | Likes 12 Dislikes 7

More like NATO trying to get influence over Ukraine and Russia trying to prevent that.

9 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 4

The EU is an economic partnership, not a military alliance.

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

You don't know what the word "alliance" means. The EU battlegroup is merely a shared military force.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Being member or associate of EU includes military cooperation. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_Foreign_and_Security_Policy#Objectives

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

From my point of view the Jedi are evil

9 years ago | Likes 13 Dislikes 2

Essentially, Russia attacked Ukraine under usual excuses. IMO, they wanted to punish Ukraine for getting closer to the "West" (whatever 1/

9 years ago | Likes 21 Dislikes 7

west means today lol ), even going as far as *gasp* Ukraine one day joining to EU. However, I think it is interesting to point out 2/

9 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 4

long-term catastrophe for Russia. Namely, in the middle of the 1990's, USA and Russia guaranteed territorial integrity and economic help 3/

9 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 3

to Ukraine if they get rid of their, at the time, 3rd nuclear arsenal in the world. Ukraine did that. Consequence? No country can not 4/

9 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 4

trust Russia to uphold any agreement. If you want to be sure that Russia will behave as they signed, you have to go to Beijing, and ask 5/

9 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 4

Fascist ukraine wants to supressn russian majority in east ukraine so they lean up and want autonomy

9 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 43

Full of shit you are.

9 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 4

Imperialist Russians want to destabilize the world and their neighboring countries so everybody is as miserable as Russia.

9 years ago | Likes 17 Dislikes 3

Yeah SoCal's getting towards 50% Hispanic. I have the feeling you wouldn't consider it "right" if they decide to up and join Mexico.

9 years ago | Likes 17 Dislikes 1

I think if you polled the rest of the country on California joining Mexico you'd be surprised at the amount of support. :)

9 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 6

Yeah let's lose a shit load of our countries gdp because some retards don't like cali

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Speak for yourself.

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

*Lack of support. They're not *that* stupid. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_Gross_State_Product_(GSP)

9 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

Depends on what you consider good. After all, the majority of Eastern Ukraine is Russian, and the loss of the port of Sevastopol would be1/?

9 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 1

a huge loss for Russia. It would basically mean the end of Russian naval influence. Also, having Ukraine in NATO would allow NATO troops 2/?

9 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 1

to be stationed right on the border of Russia. Also, the lawfully elected President basically forced out by rioters in the 3/?

9 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

Orange Revolution in favour of a pro EU oligarch named Poroshenko (I believe Poroshenko was elected after Yanukovych fled though). 4/?

9 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

After that Poroshenko basically refused to recognize any legitimacy of the rebels in Donbass. Knowing all this, you could say that Russia5/?

9 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 1

This might be the most black-and-white armed conflict in the world right now, with a clear black (Russia) and a near-clear white (Ukraine).

9 years ago | Likes 15 Dislikes 10

I miss words on telling how "white" Ukraine is...

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Not so black and white. There is a larger geopolitical situation at play here.

9 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 6

Look up population density maps for the 'border' areas & previous voting behavior in Ukraine. It's far from black and white, unfortunately.

9 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 3

Are you able to explain further? I don't know much about the conflict. Is it because the specific area has Russian roots?

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

<- that dark spot in the very east of Ukraine continues into Russia, complete with economic and cultural ties.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

These areas, including Crimea, are historically part of Russia, transferred to Ukraine during the 1950's for administrative reasons 1/2

9 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 2

Wasn't previously an issue but Ukraine's cosiness with the EU means a hard border with Russia is mandatory, so it's fucking w/ Russia's 2/3

9 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 2

Nobody, really. It's an ethnic people's republic breaking from Euro allies towards Russia, so the answer depends on how you feel about the

9 years ago | Likes 56 Dislikes 33

Well there is no people's republic, there's russia invading the ukraine and using usual excuses

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

Umm, no. The whole thing is Putin's private project. These "republics" only exist because the area is occupied by the Russian army.

9 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 2

People breaking treaties

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

That has covertly been fed and let my Russian citizens posing as Ukrainians and Russian military personnel

9 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 2

Yeah no Putinbot. The nation that very much invaded and annexed Crimea is about as bad as bad guys get.

9 years ago | Likes 19 Dislikes 10

Washingtonbot so quick to judge about other nations invasions.

9 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 2

sovereign power of the Ukraine government, the value of ethnic nationalism in ethnic majority states, Russian power projection in Eastern

9 years ago | Likes 42 Dislikes 14

Europe, and other complicated geopolitical questions. It's not unlike the situation with the Sudetenland in 1938.

9 years ago | Likes 40 Dislikes 8

Pretty spot on, but this kind of thinking is not conducive to a world that has to fit into 140 characters.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

And what happened almost exactly a year after the annexation of the Sudetenland?

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Not sure why you're being down voted, I think your comment adds thoughtfully to the discussion. Hmmm

9 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 4

It's because it's blatant propaganda. Claiming it's a civil war initiated by Ukrainian citizens is a ridiculous Kremlin narrative.

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

Because the prevailing zeitgeist is that Putin is a threat to global stability so the media casts it as a Kremlin land grab, rather than

9 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 6

But... but that won't fit a simple black-and-white narrative!

9 years ago | Likes 20 Dislikes 7

It's exactly that though. His argument is " WELL THE US DOES IT TOO!" And bases his points from a Kremlin based standpoint

9 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 3

Well since the Russian army is taking Ukrainian land? I'd say the defence of your borders is fine and the taking of your land is not

9 years ago | Likes 51 Dislikes 5

Is killing ans bombing your own people nice too?

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

It's a bit more f'd up than this. Neither party is innocent. From one side you have criminal stupidity, on the other - inhumane exploitation

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

Russia keeps saying it's not them it's Ethnic Russians, they said that recently when they tanked into Georgia! Same lines! Same action!

9 years ago | Likes 16 Dislikes 4

Liars lie sometimes.

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

And they're worried about the safety of ethnic Russians! Same Words. Same invasion of a sovereign nation! v

9 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 3

It's working again..... Putin said the saddest thing ever was the USSR breaking up & vowed to reunify.....

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Georgia attacked first. It wasn't about Russians there. Read EU reports.

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

It must be weird to explain to someone's family that their Russian military son died in a war that Russia isn't in.

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

v

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

There was a good Vice documentary on this very issue. Frustrating but they know they can't do anything about it

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

So I have to beleve OP's message without any proof?

9 years ago | Likes 19 Dislikes 10

What proof do you need? OSCE data, photo of dead marines?

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 2

Exactly that kind of proof.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

What part concerns you the most? That paramilitary forces augmented by Russian nationals have taken over parts of the Ukraine? That

9 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 2

shelling and attacks happen? That this chain of incidents itself is blown out of proportion? What exactly are you seeking proof of?

9 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 2

Is the Ukraine officially at war with Russia? I can't find anything to support that. Has there been a declaration?

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Ukraine hasn't officially declared war because they're not Russian troops, also these Ukrainian rebels are backed by Russia.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

And yes, there should be more about this in the news....

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

No, Russia sneaks into Ukrainian territory, Claims it is rebels and denies its their army despite all evidence 2 the contrary. Sneaky shite

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 2

Why the fuck is this being downvoted? And yes I agree... Id like to see evidence to the contrary, down vote fairies...

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

@aaavril is know for spewing biased North Korean type Propaganda, he never shows the bad side of the Ukrainian army, such as the shelling..

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

sorry, you're saying this is propaganda?

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

Also a Neo Nazi group is apart of the Ukrainian National Guard, which is very concerning, they're group is called "AZOV", uses swastiks etc.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

I dont see how that is relevant. Not great obviously, but doesnt mean you should be invaded or subverted by another country.

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

The U.S did Subvert the power of the Ukrainian government by replacing them with Nationalists and funding a false flag color revolution.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

Oleh is the leader of popular party known as Svoboda (Nationalist Party), he hates Jews and Russians & gained massive support during crisis

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

http://www.unzcloud.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/mccain-tyagnibok-fascist.jpg John McCain was sent in to meet Oleh Tyahnybok.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

NATO is creeping towards Russian borders, they need a buffer zone, they take over parts of Ukraine, mostly parts where Russians live. It's >

9 years ago | Likes 24 Dislikes 18

The best part is it directly contradicts their previous promises of not expanding further East. But it looks like that's been forgotten now.

9 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 2

illegal and unfair (although which country got its territory by being "fair") but the West is not blameless in this.

9 years ago | Likes 19 Dislikes 9

*NATO influence on policy of Eastern European nations; specifically in regards to Russia political strategies (alliance w/ Syria et. al.)

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

bullshit

9 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 7

I'm not saying they're right to do it, just why they felt it was in their best interest and NATO wasn't helping with its expansion east.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

Eh, not entirely. They FEEL the need for a buffer zone, which their military policy has relied on (successfully) for centuries.

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 2

That policy being "trade space for time". Worked in WW2.

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 2

If California decided to ally with Russia and allow them to full military access would you expect the US government to do nothing?

9 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 3

California isn't a sovereign nation. But I wouldn't expect the US to invade Canada if they allowed Russia access.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

You should. See the Cuban Missile Crisis for a recent example.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Creeping? Norway is *on* the border. Explain that.

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

Funny story, Norway is not actually a member state of the EU. They are part of the EEA and their ties are economic, not political.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

It's not the kind of border that can support a big military offensive. The Baltic states are more of a threat but Ukraine in NATO would be >

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

much more dangerous for Russia. NATO had given assurances to Russia that it would not expand further east, then did anyway.

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 2

Got a source for that?

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

yea, but the only reason those countries on the border want to join is because of Russia.

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What makes you say that? Most NATO countries don't share a border with Russia and quite a few joined after the end of the Cold War. And >

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every country has reasons for their policies. Russia's neighbors want collective security, Russia wants buffer zone. None of them are >

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wrong, they're just looking out for their interests. And when it comes to legally dubious invasions, Russia is hardly the worst culprit.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

70 attacks and 2 casualties? I just became much less concerned about any potential war with Russia

9 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 4

Maybe Russia is more interested in a status quo instead of actually winning?

9 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

Could just be shooting the air in shifts so they can't get any sleep, then make mistakes and lose position. War isn't about the kill-count.

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"Attack" can mean anything from a close assault with air support to a couple bursts and bombs to say "fuck you we're still here idi nahui".

9 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

Combat is actually remarkably 'safe', considering. You can blow the shit out of a place without nearly as many deaths as you'd expect.

9 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Incidentally: 'casualty' =/= 'killed'.

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Yeah, 'casualty' basically means someone who doesn't 'count' for his organisation. Wounded, sick, dead, captured, missing etc.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

A single 152MM artillery round has a kill radius of over 20 feet, casualties at over 100. So Russia is dropping the ball.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 2

That's what happens when you shell without a spotter to adjust fire.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 2

That's not been required in over a decade, a good grid reference via laser will get first round hit. It seems Russians are doing area 1/2

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

2/2 You can even see it done by rebels in some of the earlier videos of this war on live leak. They're still using old 82 and 120mm mortars

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Denial, semi constant firing along their lines keeps the Ukrainian forces stuck, likely to allow air to ground fire I'd things go 2/3

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

*if things officially go hot, clustered and stuck forces are easy pretty for combat ground attack aircraft.

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

*easy prey (fucking auto correct)

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Spotting is still used and taught by every military in the world. I'm not sure where you're getting this information. 1/2

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Adjustment of fire is not used very much anymore, the modern M777 howtizers can hit targets the size of a car, spotting and lasing 1/2

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

then creating a grid reference is how it's done now, rarely if ever is a adjustment of fire required, hell satellites can guide artillery.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Are as old as the men using them* fuck this twitter tier 140 character limit.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I'm aware.Its still commonly used for mortars, especially in the case of Ukraine, where the mortars and shells are as old as them using them

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If we're gonna call every Russia-backed soldiers "Russian hybrid", then we should call Al Quaeda in Syria an American Hybrid. It's only true

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Calling it Al Qaida is like calling the Ukrainian government fascists. Not baseless, but more false then true and very misleading.

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

They are defending their own country so how does that make them fascists?

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Defending their own country does not make then *not* fascists, but again: Not baseless, but more false then true and very misleading.

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

please provide your audience with your definition of Fascism

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

The question you have is 'why are accusations of fascism against the current Ukrainian regime not entirely baseless', right? (see replies)

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Spot on. The amount of spin this gets from the west is fuckin ridiculous. It ain't all roses. But the higher than thou BS we spit sickens me

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That'd be true if America gave al-Qaeda tanks, AFVs and other heavy weapons, as well as if their soldiers were heavily American in origin

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That's what General Petraeus suggested on record that they do. They settled for just funding, arming and training them.

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So a measured approach that lets them do all the fighting and minimizes American exposure? If that's what Russia did Ukraine would've won

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That's what Russia IS doing. Ukraine is just putting up stiffer resistance than expected.

9 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 2

There are anywhere from hundreds to thousands of Russian soldiers in eastern Ukraine right now. That's not letting them fight.

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