I mean, ALOT of Trump supporters know full well that Fascism means hatred against an out-group (which they already hate) and blind obedience to authority (which they already love)
Pft.... left-wing people don't even recognize left wing fascism.. They call Stalinism left-wing authoritarianism that shares some features with facism but fundamentally different. Just makes me feel like "left is too perfect fascism" and they have wrapped the Stalinism turd in layer of academic bullshit..
..and this does not any way justify right wing fascism or Trump policies. Or undermine socialism. Just debating the understanding of word "fascism".
I am teaching about the Holocaust in my ELA class because it seems impossible to read Anne Frank and Maus without understanding how WWI set up WW2 and OH BOY IS IT UNCOMFORTABLE SINCE WE HAVE SO MANY MAGA PARENTS.
I‘d phrase it as „…don‘t know what either of them are“, because definitions are difficult and you don’t want to run into „You define fascism then“. There is no universally accepted definition of fascism. Academics are still debating and „It‘s only fascism if it comes from the fascist party of Italy, otherwise it‘s just sparkling militarized nationalism“ is actually a legitimate position.
It's the sort of inconsistent thinking that equates socialism with Stalinism, but then calls national healthcare or health insurance examples of socialism, and then refuses to engage with the reason the UK with its NHS isn't covered in gulags. Sometimes "socialism" is a euphemism for "brown people getting stuff". The dishonesty isn't new, it's just more extreme and blatant.
That's not true at all, they absolutely know the difference between the two. Socialism means that one person just one person that they don't like will get something that they don't think that person should like so they would rather the system where everyone gets fucked then the system where one person who they don't like might get something that they don't think they deserve. It's not a question of whether or not they do actually deserve it it's whether or not the voter thinks they do.
1. Pardoned Rod Blagojevich, former Illinois governor convicted of corruption, after his vocal support for Trump. 2. Pardoned January 6 insurrectionists who tried to overturn an election he lost.
52. Pardoned a Trump loyalist found guilty of wire fraud.
53. Pardoned the son of a longtime Republican donor.
54. Pardoned a corporation that had been fined $100 million for money laundering.
trump voters are the best argument for the implementation of soylent green, to use the worst of us to feed the best of us. Because so long as they live, they'll be nothing but a blight on society, and there HAS to be a better use for them. Most definitely probably, as fertilizer.
Parades, probably. At this point, they say "a WELL-REGULATED militia lol!" and all I hear is "to jerk ourselves off because we're a bunch of good-for-nothing borderline traitors who don't care about our country!".
They're not taught the definition of any of them. It's why they throw around communism, socialism, marxism, fascism, and other "scary" -isms around interchangeably, because to them, they're all synonyms for "bad."
Whenever someone complains about Marxism ask them to articulate the dialectic materialist contradictions they are referring to. Its not productive but it annoys people.
The communist manifesto has very little to do with Marxism, beyond being Marx's application of his theory. If you want to understand Marxism you need to read das kapital (or an exegesis; there's plenty of explanations of the book that are far more accessible than the book itself). Its kinda like watching Jurassic Park and saying you now know palaeontology and genetics.
They also think the fascists in power will be on their side. Spoiler: they won't. Once the powers that be get rid of all the other "undesirables," they'll be next.
We are a BANANA REPUBLIC NO DIFFERENT THAN ANYWHERE ELSE. EVERYONE IN THIS COUNTRY APPEARS TO HATE IT. We all will find out soon where all of this leaves the citizens who have to survive here.
THE ONLY THING KEEPING ME GOING TODAY IS OUR DEAR DEAR GURU ON CLIMATE CHANGE, MR. BILLIONAIRE BILL GATES TOLD US HE WAS WRONG ON THIS. lets just breath deep and say life is good. 😆 🤣 😂 😹
Actually they are not even waiting. Cutting snap benefits and healthcare for millions will be felt really fucking soon regardless of who MAGA blame. Reality is coming to crash their fantasy world created by the conservative media. I hope a few people wake up as to why this is happening but I’m not holding out too much hope for peaceful resolution at this point- I haven’t given up but I am also preparing for the worst.
That's pretty rad of you, thanks. Can I be a greedy cocksucker and ask if you can do it for U.S. only? Otherwise, please disregard and enjoy your shitbrowsing.
powwerbottom
MAGA thinks both definitions are "communism." They don't know what that is either but man they're PISSED about it
wetsocksinflipflops
To any person in our active military, we don't need you to say no , we need you to fight back . You're our only hope
RichardPenne
How would you get rid of 78 million fascist voters? Asking for a friend.
Shawnofavitch
No such thing as capitalism without socialism. Highways, water, electricity, etc.
limbodog
They think telling social media giants to stop spreading information that will spread disease is fascism
Subsound
Keep your government hands off my medicare! /s
CrimsonPermanentAssurance
I mean, ALOT of Trump supporters know full well that Fascism means hatred against an out-group (which they already hate) and blind obedience to authority (which they already love)
hsalonen3000
Pft.... left-wing people don't even recognize left wing fascism.. They call Stalinism left-wing authoritarianism that shares some features with facism but fundamentally different. Just makes me feel like "left is too perfect fascism" and they have wrapped the Stalinism turd in layer of academic bullshit..
..and this does not any way justify right wing fascism or Trump policies. Or undermine socialism. Just debating the understanding of word "fascism".
SledgeRipley
"Sounds like something a COMMUNIST would say!" - someone who doesn't know what that word means either
KarmaciouS
America doesn't know the definition of communism either because it has been diabolised there for decades if not a century
AranaDiscoteca
I am teaching about the Holocaust in my ELA class because it seems impossible to read Anne Frank and Maus without understanding how WWI set up WW2 and OH BOY IS IT UNCOMFORTABLE SINCE WE HAVE SO MANY MAGA PARENTS.
TrilithonStone
They're certain Biden was a fascist... and Obama, well we know what was wrong with him, don't we.
TlsGrz
I‘d phrase it as „…don‘t know what either of them are“, because definitions are difficult and you don’t want to run into „You define fascism then“. There is no universally accepted definition of fascism. Academics are still debating and „It‘s only fascism if it comes from the fascist party of Italy, otherwise it‘s just sparkling militarized nationalism“ is actually a legitimate position.
slinkiisu
Caught in a comment chain
euphoricopportunity
It's the sort of inconsistent thinking that equates socialism with Stalinism, but then calls national healthcare or health insurance examples of socialism, and then refuses to engage with the reason the UK with its NHS isn't covered in gulags. Sometimes "socialism" is a euphemism for "brown people getting stuff". The dishonesty isn't new, it's just more extreme and blatant.
TheBelcherKids
meulyana
MAGA Adopted Nazi Playbook https://thebookverse.click/b0f7hz3kd9.html
7hatsBollocks
Which was copied from the American play book, which was copied from the colonial powers play book..
DinkyDoinky
Not only maga, republicans as a whole were completely fascist since before nixon
Jewdakris
That's not true at all, they absolutely know the difference between the two. Socialism means that one person just one person that they don't like will get something that they don't think that person should like so they would rather the system where everyone gets fucked then the system where one person who they don't like might get something that they don't think they deserve. It's not a question of whether or not they do actually deserve it it's whether or not the voter thinks they do.
nimeton0
SecretAgentSuperBooger
TocinoATX
https://media2.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPWE1NzM3M2U1bnZzMXI2bDh1bW9janRnN3hkZjJyOXp3cTJueDF1M3NpZ3ZsOTNlOSZlcD12MV9naWZzX3NlYXJjaCZjdD1n/5gYaMJY6nzCSFypS3O/200w.webp
Poppypoppoppop
Are welcoming*
Jesusinapouch
How ironic...
rainbowsandunicorns575
They also throw around the label communist because they don’t know what that mesh’s either.
Aktrazer
"because they think it's communism.
I feel that's an important add.
OriginalSyn
They don't even know what communism is.
Grimlinnan
1. Pardoned Rod Blagojevich, former Illinois governor convicted of corruption, after his vocal support for Trump.
2. Pardoned January 6 insurrectionists who tried to overturn an election he lost.
52. Pardoned a Trump loyalist found guilty of wire fraud.
53. Pardoned the son of a longtime Republican donor.
54. Pardoned a corporation that had been fined $100 million for money laundering.
bripi
💯
NonstopRampage
trump voters are the best argument for the implementation of soylent green, to use the worst of us to feed the best of us. Because so long as they live, they'll be nothing but a blight on society, and there HAS to be a better use for them. Most definitely probably, as fertilizer.
NoWhiteFlag2132
Does our US Constitution matter anymore? What was it meant for if it doesn’t work in hard times?
NonstopRampage
Parades, probably. At this point, they say "a WELL-REGULATED militia lol!" and all I hear is "to jerk ourselves off because we're a bunch of good-for-nothing borderline traitors who don't care about our country!".
meowingintensifies
idk, they probably have things inside of them that are worse than microplastics, lead, and asbestos combined.
NonstopRampage
It can't be worse than whatever toxins they produce by just being alive.
SpikesGuns
https://media0.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPWE1NzM3M2U1NXF3ZW50MWhpZHYzbzY5cGNqcWhzeTJjeHJ1NXh3Y3M0N3NlYmRhcCZlcD12MV9naWZzX3NlYXJjaCZjdD1n/xT5LMUH1DQICBiJUeA/200w.webp
eromitlab
They're not taught the definition of any of them. It's why they throw around communism, socialism, marxism, fascism, and other "scary" -isms around interchangeably, because to them, they're all synonyms for "bad."
Anfalicious
Whenever someone complains about Marxism ask them to articulate the dialectic materialist contradictions they are referring to. Its not productive but it annoys people.
anthrdrunkenwannabepoet
ask if Marxism was an idea peddled by graucho Marx and see if the actually say yes
NoWhiteFlag2132
Does anyone have a copy of “The Communist Manifesto? Quote from that, that’ll show the truth! Where can you get one?
DKConstant
I got you, buddy.
https://archive.org/details/manifestoofcommu00marx_1/page/n11/mode/1up
Anfalicious
The communist manifesto has very little to do with Marxism, beyond being Marx's application of his theory. If you want to understand Marxism you need to read das kapital (or an exegesis; there's plenty of explanations of the book that are far more accessible than the book itself). Its kinda like watching Jurassic Park and saying you now know palaeontology and genetics.
JohnnySilverballs
They also think the fascists in power will be on their side. Spoiler: they won't. Once the powers that be get rid of all the other "undesirables," they'll be next.
Swk62
You have to concede that they are undesirable.
TNSCLuotaMEa4fVN
Historically accurate
YouRadicalizedMe
Impendingstrapon
This is true.
IhopeUgetwhatUvoted4
They won't get rid of all but the ones they keep won't be loving life either.
designlove2o2o
We are a BANANA REPUBLIC NO DIFFERENT THAN ANYWHERE ELSE.
EVERYONE IN THIS COUNTRY APPEARS TO HATE IT. We all will find out soon where all of this leaves the citizens who have to survive here.
THE ONLY THING KEEPING ME GOING TODAY IS OUR DEAR DEAR GURU ON CLIMATE CHANGE, MR. BILLIONAIRE BILL GATES TOLD US HE WAS WRONG ON THIS. lets just breath deep and say life is good. 😆 🤣 😂 😹
Me1iss0
Actually they are not even waiting. Cutting snap benefits and healthcare for millions will be felt really fucking soon regardless of who MAGA blame. Reality is coming to crash their fantasy world created by the conservative media. I hope a few people wake up as to why this is happening but I’m not holding out too much hope for peaceful resolution at this point- I haven’t given up but I am also preparing for the worst.
GloveFullaVaseline
This SNAP shit is gonna fuck them up for a minute, the gop
7hatsBollocks
Why? It's Biden who is doing this!
(Is how it'll actually go. Then they vote gop even harder...)
lordyhalvey
They will look it up while it is happening to them. Then it's too late.
counterintel
Id be interested to see a google chart of people googling 'fascism' for the last 4-8 years.
NZSheeps
counterintel
That's pretty rad of you, thanks. Can I be a greedy cocksucker and ask if you can do it for U.S. only? Otherwise, please disregard and enjoy your shitbrowsing.
NZSheeps
It's freely available https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=today%205-y&geo=US&q=Kittens&hl=en
counterintel
Again, thanks. I've never tried or looked into how to do it myself.
NZSheeps
counterintel
You rock, thanks so much. I also lol'd at the huge spiking at the end and what its going to look like moving forward.