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I just wanted to share this. It broke my heart to see shit like this happening in this day and age. Rape and burned, it happened days ago and I just randomly saw a post about it. I would have never known, and how many people don't?
No one of any walk of life deserves this.
TheOneThatGotBanned
+1 for awareness , that is so fucked up.
ZogernVerfahren
Woah... I haven't be this shocked and saddened by something in a long time. I feel a great and indescribable sadness. wtf turkey.
Gungagin
Shameful and hideous. No one deserves that.
ImJustADinosaur
What the fuck is wrong with people? Seriously WTF.
Jerf89
Well that's just shitty
HoosteenDiaz
Happy to see a post like this maintain positive points on a site like this
ecodude
People hate Islam way more than they hate lgbt people.
Pangs
Do you ever read news? It was there to be read.
totalwiener
I didn't blame the news media for my own ignorance. I made this post because I know ppl don't tend to keep up with global news, like me.
sowetoninja
At least trans people being killed gets taken seriously...boys are treated as sex slaves openly & I've yet to see one post about that. Even>
homicidalslayer
You mean Street Grooming? It absolutely gets reported on, has been since the First Gulf War. Just usually by print media.
sowetoninja
>mainstream news act like it's not happening. It's not one person getting raped,it's groups of them, every day,openly&without any resistance
sandrel
This type of crap is what keeps me the closet, between people trying to help too much and others looking to harm me, the closet seems safe.
KikiLovesBacon
What do you mean by "help too much"? Honest question :)
RainbowRhino
i think can clarify, sometimes people treat the gay' too nice, in a way that says "its alright that you are weird/wrong" making you feel 1/2
RainbowRhino
like an alien, excluding you from them because you don't feel like people, because they aren't treating you the way they treat people 2/2
bexxyab
Safe yes but not a happy place.
b13476
inb4 Turkey turn into next Iran...
inaplasticcup
i'm waiting for Erdogan to announce himself Shah of Anatolia...
SteelFuelCantMeltBeamJets
I believe it was Jon Oliver that referred to Turkey as Diet Syria
KharnApproves
That is extremely accurate.
SunBrolem
I think its more "Diet Saudi Arabia".
DogPeppers
This day and age doesn't apply to the middle East
kirmokum
uh, turkey is a modern, secular nation, not a bombed out and failed occupied territory.
raidleadergutts
Do not listen to this lying cunt, turkey is neither modern nor secular. It's an islamic shithole and getting worse by day.
ChloePrice
Turkey isn't modern tbh. They ban websites cause "I don't like them making fun of me" and censor to avoid information accessibility.
TheDivineUsersub
Thank you! It boggles my mind how people toss the "we're in 2016 ffs! how is this still happening?" Duh, mother fucker, and 2016 is not -
TheDivineUsersub
- a sign of advancement. Especially in that part of the world.
raidleadergutts
You've been downvoted by idiots who think human social and cultural progression is a linear one. 2016 doesn't mean shit.
TheDivineUsersub
It's a big problem in the U.S. People have taken for granted the comfort our society has bestowed upon us. They don't realize it's still -
TheDivineUsersub
- vulnerable. They seem to live in that naive, adolescent perspective of "it won't happen to us" or "we've progressed past tyranny". -
marmitejim
Strange how people don't seem to get their news anywhere else but Imgur, no wonder they are constantly surprised at what's going on 1/2
shbecky93
This actually cropped up on fb for me, friend shared it from one of the mainstream news sites but can't remember which one now
Howdoilife
I watch CNN for all my news. That's good enough right? :)
marmitejim
Hahaha.... nice one (0:
ironwolf6896
I literally get all my news from imgur
marmitejim
in the world....? For the record, they are protesting over the death in Turkey.
raidleadergutts
And the protest was attacked and shut down by cops.
fireeternal
Im not sure surprised and outraged is the same... if this doesn´t outrage you nothing will.
kirmokum
some seriously racist comments in this thread.
DicksTakeDickpicsWithSelfieSticks
As long as we remember the difference between race and nationality, culture, religion.
kirmokum
dammit. i JUST said that to someone.
kirmokum
i should have said "bigoted".
francisdolarhyde
Imgur has been showing a nasty side lately. Super disappointing.
bexxyab
As a trans person I am scared. This happens everyday like in NYC a trans person was hit with a hammer recently. I do not feel safe.
ChloePrice
I'm so sorry. :(
bexxyab
Why apologise? You did not do anything some people are backwards in this world don't apologise for there actions that is for them to do.
ChloePrice
I know, it's just, somethings are so awful and I just can't believe they're actually real and... Eh, I dunno. Best of luck and stay safe :)
bexxyab
Thankyou and you too
ChloePrice
And yet we'll have hundreds of posts bitching about gender identity and how it's dumb or gross on FP soon, perpetuating this hate culture.
nzey
Millions of active users on this site, but only about 1000 need to upvote to get to the front page. Conflicting posts are unavoidable.
madgodrhinoprime
Getyourgatespeechoffthiscampus.gif
GravyWonTon
Middle Eastern countries, regardless how progressive are not conducive for lgbt people.
ThatJerkYouKnow
"UNPOPULAR OPINION PUFFIN: DERE'S ONLY TWO GENDURS AND THERE'S NO WAY THIS TYPE OF SPEECH COULD MAYBE BE HARMFUL HURR DURR"
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OohGeePele
Spot on.
Varynja
In my opinion, trans people don't interfere with the concept of 2 genders. Female to male trans = male, nothing else.
chewbaccamegatron
As a feminist/LGBTI ally, I have to say that's quite interesting and something I've never considered.
ceearaan
https://media.giphy.com/media/IYyn46tl55Yyc/giphy.gif
diehardlance
Oh look at the wittle trigglypuff
ThatJerkYouKnow
I'm your typical cis white male, who just also happens to be trans friendly. Don't assume too hard, you'll sprain something.
diehardlance
Anyone who uses the term cis seriously is an idiot. The correct term is normal.
ThatJerkYouKnow
You misspelled "purposefully." Or are you also "purposlystupid?" lol
diehardlance
I've already written you off as worthless. Nothing you have to say means anything to me. Just fyi.
Nikolai5
But a trans person wants to be the other gender. They aren't saying they are a third gender... Many would agree with that statement I'm sure
FutureHylian
About sums it up. Unless its connected to tragedy people here tend to look at transgender as "that made up thing tumblr yells about"
dryerlint
Dude wtf are you strawmanning about, trangenderism is accepted by most people. Its the gender fluidity thing people are skeptical of.
noobclipper
Fuck people
madgodrhinoprime
Happily, can do, and will do boss!
CrazyCatLad
Just not prior to burning them.
BKColts88
Damn...
ItchyScrot
ohh burrrnnnn!
IHateSupernatural
macthelost
And certainly not while they are burning. That is painful
darthsteve333
You can totally do it pre-burning, just get consent first
archiebunk
How depraved and evil do you have to be to rape and set someone on fire you disagree with? Honestly. They set her on fire!!! Sad.
Corynthos
''It''. They set ''it'' on fire.
fluffycake25
Well turks and greeks seem to have found a point of agreement finally. United by their hate for LGBT.
Zoronii
Thanks for being part of the problem
Corynthos
Anytime, Anywhere. *tips his bowler hat*
Frogapus
If you're thinking "But what can I do?" A good place to start is to downvote the discriminatory stuff you see here on imgur. (1/2)
ohshitausername
A million times yes. "It's just a joke" can lead to far worse behaviour because people think society condones it or it isn't that serious.
Frogapus
Fucking microaggressions, man.
Frogapus
It's a tiny act, but it shows the bigots that their behavior is not acceptable, and cuts off their support. Share kindness, not hate. (2/2)
Xxkendia
Funny that you say that, cuz I swear on the front page yesterday there was a trans hate photo.
justanotherfartinthewind
dude it's become a daily phenomenon. it's so shitty coming here for laughs and finding it filled with intolerance masked as humor
Splatteredpixie
This is sad but i have to say the man in my home town who raped and killed an 8 year old girl and left her body in a ditch deserves this.
luchie24
You mean to be burnt alive? Yes I would agree with you that's awful
UVBNAXED
Agreed.
imrizzy
What the fck. Who the sht does that
Splatteredpixie
very sick people. it happens everywhere, everyday. Let him die, horrifically and publicly i bet those types of crimes would decrease.
imgoodatwastingmytime
You don't happen to be from the Watkins area do you?
Splatteredpixie
No. I'm not.
Rez994
vengence is no excuse for putting someone through such horrendus torture
nzey
Not a popular opinion on the internet.
Ilikeyogurt
Oh my god.What a fucking beast, he deserves worse.CIA torture trials and experiments before testing how slowly a man dies from burn injuries
iReportStuffYouJackOffTo
hey bud, for the record, calling someone a beast, is a compliment. just fyi
Ilikeyogurt
Well, a piece of shit then
iReportStuffYouJackOffTo
better.
RainbowUnicode
Why do you wish pain on other people?
whereamandwhatamidoinghere
some blood bags around and torture him in many different ways bringing him to the brink of death and then not letting him experience that 2-
whereamandwhatamidoinghere
peace until a month down the road. Each day you repeat the process but slowly change the manner of torture and the amount of pain. Like 3-
whereamandwhatamidoinghere
cutting off fingers, toes you know :D
Genanishans
You're fucked up.
whereamandwhatamidoinghere
No what's fucked up is a man raping and murdering an 8 year old. That's fucked up.
RainbowUnicode
That's the "eye for an eye" mentality that is terribly damaging to our humanity.
HopeHubris
Criminals should be prevented from committing more crimes, not tortured to get you off
raidleadergutts
Soo, public execution?
HopeHubris
That's sick and twisted. You are not a good person.
whereamandwhatamidoinghere
No what's sick and twisted is a man raping and murdering an 8 year old.
whereamandwhatamidoinghere
Because he should feel 10 times the pain he brought on that 8 year old child? Just a guess. I'd say hook him up to an iv machine and have 1-
Ilikeyogurt
You're asking compassion for a person that rapes and kills an eight yr old? What's wrong with you?
RainbowUnicode
I don't think that torture is ever right. That man didn't do something right. You shouldn't allow yourself to fall down a dark path either.
Splatteredpixie
Thats the christian way, asking compassion and forgiveness for a monster who tortures children but hate the neighbor bc he has a boyfriend..
Ilikeyogurt
I'm atheist. No thanks
Smudge13
Hey look, a trans post that isn't about hating trans got to the front pa-ohhhh.. because people can hate on Muslims more.
barebackclaire
what is the person posting was both trans and of the Muslim faith..... but American born and looking really good and thriving~?
totalwiener
Honestly, I don't know what I expected...
Smudge13
Even if it helps change the mind of one person it's worth it :]
totalwiener
True!
Kryterion
Islamists make themselves exceptionally easy to hate by all the detestable and awful things they do in the shitholes where theyre a majority
Smudge13
Indeed, but when anti-trans shit makes the front page every day I'm more inclined to believe the upvotes here are just mostly anti-Islam.
Kryterion
But yeah, because the Imgur community thinks this is a tragedy we're just a bunch of haters, right?
SunBrolem
Obviously we're all a bunch of irrational Naziphobes. Reminder that the majority of the Nazi party were just regular people! #NotAllNazis
jojiluis
Everyday posts defaming Transgender people or statements of ignorance reach front page, so if you're cynical it would be an easy conclusion
ChrisW123456
Turkey? A repressive Muslim shithole? Who knew?
ThisIsMyUsernameNotMyComment
I'm surprised you were able to string a few words together to be honest +1 for your effort you daft fucknut
hypraktiv
Hey wtf asshole it has nothing to do with Islam, it's the religion of peace
bond100
*Islamist
SepiaSkies
Do you live in the US? http://lawstreetmedia.com/issues/law-and-politics/transgender-murder-crisis-many-murders-2015/
lGneousMlracIe
~20 murders per year with a population of 320M, compared to dozens per week in the Mid East with far fewer "out" LGBT people.
Sipsap88
Yes, the article provides the star for trans people who were murdered, not necessarily murdered b/c they were trans. See each story below.
Sipsap88
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_unlawfully_killed_transgender_people
Sipsap88
*stat
MidgetRacer8192
the weird part is, they're so against homos/trans/etc... yet they raped this one & do weird things to young boys & that's "ok".
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MidgetRacer8192
I don't think Im assuming western anything. just pointing out they feel certain things are wrong, yet decide to have sex with guys anyway
MidgetRacer8192
lol.... how in the hell is that getting downvoted? that is literally what did & is happening.
secretlibby
Kander would have had a surgically crafted vagina, so I guess that makes it alright.
raidleadergutts
The thing about that is that they believe that as long as they give and not receive, they're not gay.
bond100
If by "weird things" you mean chain 6 year old boys to bed frames so an entire police station can use him as a fuck toy then yeah I guess.
TheOngoingQuestForThePerfectUsername
Oh god why did I have to look that up right now. Supposed to be unwinding to fall asleep. This did not help.
Muddskipper2
Chai Boys, very real. Very sad.
raidleadergutts
You probably got downvoted for saying that cops could do anything bad. +1 for all its worth.
bond100
Cops in Afghanistan and cops in the US are nothing alike. Cops in Afghanistan will kill a father as an "insurgent" so they can rape his wife
MidgetRacer8192
yea, this & who knows what all else they do.
TheWombatStrikesAgain
I'm sorry, what part of "backwards religious fanatics" makes you think they're bound to conventional reasoning?
MidgetRacer8192
well that's what gets me about it... it's supposed to be so bad & those people are freaks, yet "yea, let's now have sex with them!"
joshsplosion
I want to know who read your post and thought "i disagree. That isnt whats happening at all" *downvoted*
raidleadergutts
Probably some butthurt muslim, or an ignorant western liberal outraged at someone talking well-deserved shit about the darkness of islam.
joshsplosion
chrishallett83
"Turkey is a shithole" - maybe go look up trans* murder rates in the USA, it's not any better...
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chrishallett83
Oh, so just like America then?
ecodude
But in America, it's easier to pretend that we don't have problems by only focusing on other countries and issues that don't matter.
francisdolarhyde
It barely registers on the news when it happens in the US because many of the women murdered are WoC, and the media doesn't seem to care...
CrazyCatLad
WTF IS WOC?
CrazyCatLad
Oh? Women of Color? I keep seeing this acronym...
francisdolarhyde
Yarp.
chrishallett83
Yep 20 gone this year already, it's so fucking depressing.
madgodrhinoprime
Yes it is.
chrishallett83
No, it's not. 20 Trans folks murdered in the US this year already. How many in Turkey?
madgodrhinoprime
Post the stats and find out.
chrishallett83
Well, so far 1 that I can find any information on anywhere. Accounting for population difference, that makes the US 4.25 times worse! Yay!
madgodrhinoprime
And you dont even post a source? Various college professors are audibly rolling in their graves because of this.
srsfaceI8C
I am just glad this made FP because Imgur tends towards very trans-intolerant judging by the puffins we get about them all the time.
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justanotherfartinthewind
yikes
luchie24
You're very right I was quite surprised to see it with so many votes
raidleadergutts
Except what you choose to see as trans-intolerant is just people whining about all the idiots making up stupid labels for themselves.
sandrel
While I'll agree on that I think people complain a lot about the "Tumblr teen angst" stuff that for some reason gets brought up more
sandrel
And like most everything else us normal folk get ignored but then get the flack from the insuing Shit storm
TestAccount321
Oh don't worry, it'll happen eventually. Consider this post a rarity, because we'll be back to the old routine tomorrow.
TheOngoingQuestForThePerfectUsername
It's a bizarre contrast to all of the pro-Bernie Sanders content we were having. Supporting LGBTQ+ people is his jam. People be wack yo
impulsivepassion
Imgurian here. Love all people fairly. It's personalities that'll make me not like you.
vermil
Thank you. A lot of people seem to equate opinions with personality, and this is very visible online. It's so saddening...
ohshitausername
Sorry but if you have a disrespectful opinion of trans people I probably won't like your personality either. Just let people be people.
VoltageXL1
I don't think those puffins are about trans, its about the 50+ gender thing.
raidleadergutts
It is, but retards like srsfaceI8C are incapable of making that distinction.
VoltageXL1
Yeah and saying they're transphobic because they say there is only 2 genders is quite a stretch...
sowetoninja
Oh please how can you even start to compare it to acts like this?
srsfaceI8C
Simple psychology. It's a lot easier to commit a heinous crime against people one considers subhuman.
FlyingButtPliers
That's a difference between thinking people are mentally ill or attention seeking and bring OK with rape, murder or burning them alive.
HiccupHorrendousHaddockIII
Its not the people that are just trans that Imgur has an issue with, its the "kins" and the Gender fluids or "xhe" and what not that get the
HiccupHorrendousHaddockIII
puffins made about them.
BloodyBaboon
Word I've dated a in the past tranwoman and am currently trying to convince anot her that I'm worth her time.
VoltageXL1
Yes you are correct. I've never seen hate for trans on here, just ppl saying they think theres male and female.
brauntosaurus
A post right now on the FP basically saying "there are bigger problems than being misgendered stop complaining" transphobia is here.
VoltageXL1
Once again I don't think that is targeted at trans... but at the people who identify as polysexual or something like that.
brauntosaurus
to clarify, I'm not trans, but I have trans friends and these are thoughts literally all of them have shared with me.
Thefluffernutter
I mean, misgendering wouldn't necessarily be an issue for someone whose sole inconsistency with the norm would be polysexuality.
brauntosaurus
You might not think it does, but to someone who has experienced a lifetime of misgendering (intentional or not) it can feel very targeted.
CitizenDickbag
This was used as an opportunity to hate on Muslims, so that won out over bashing trans people. They'll go back to bashing trans tomorrow.
srsfaceI8C
Good point. :( *long extended sigh goes here*
chakarakarama
I mean you CAN disagree with/not support someone's lifestyle and also disagree with a murder.
srsfaceI8C
Telling people repeated "You are mentally ill!" is not simply disagreeing with another person's life choices, mate.
CitizenDickbag
Trans people are dehumanized regularly on imgur, and dehumanizing people is what makes it easy to murder them. Trans people in the US are
CitizenDickbag
brutally assaulted and killed regularly, and it's b/c people see them as inhuman freaks, thanks to the constant hate spewed about them.
TestAccount321
That's because nobody here has the stones to claim they don't care because someone was killed...yet.
kingev101
Welp, Turkey has become so ass backwards they can fuck themselves.
BlowOnItAndStickItIn
We have turkey?
berkay
it sucks man.. the whole place, starting with core human values, have fallen apart. what we have right now, i cannot call home any more.
SpoonOfDoom
The sad thing is that I keep hearing and reading people who actually defend Erdogan and what's going on in Turkey.
Hedningen
I really hope that EU doesnt grant them free visa for travel, they dont deserve it.
raidleadergutts
As a turkish guy who is trying to get out of this islamic hell hole, I hope so too. The scum here don't deserve to go there.
iliketosaysomethingandthenjustbanana
Yet they wonder why they can't join the EU...
madroxide86
Turkey has been a shit country for a very long time.
idontknowwhybutihaveahugefetishforredheads
Then to think the EU was seriously thinking about accepting turkey
fivetoone
That's literally the exact state of mind that led to those people getting raped, beaten, and set on fire.
isrealwasaninsidejob
Become? I do t think you can say become if it had been shit for like 500 years
waffleninjer
And just remember Turkey has the liberal Muslims. Just imagine the ones we are importing.
OhLookSquirrel
Ha! This doesn’t even scratch the surface of the shit that happens in the US or anywhere else. Don’t be hatin’ on Turkey just cause.
Demonlord24
But it's democracy at work. That's what Supreme Democratic President Erdogan said on state held news.
mareli82
replace has become whit has always been
AdolphusHitler
Turkey has always been backwards
DefunkMyJunk
I'd say Turkey was one of the best countries in the area. Friendly reminder that Irak, Syria, ... are its neighbouring countries
raptorsoldier
http://images-cdn.9gag.com/photo/apvvMzB_700b.jpg
inevitableban
Has become? It has been, bro. No one deserves that shithole.
raidleadergutts
The feral muslim scum who love erdoğan so much do.
REV076
As half-Greek who lived in Turkey for 15 years, I confirm. The country was already a pile of shit long before Erdogan.
HippDeutschMan
They try to go back to the middle ages! And I don't get how some tell erdowahn is like the best thing ever. He is plain mad!
Hamado
Turkey was way better in the Middle Ages in fact the only reason the world is as fucked as it is to day is because the fail of the ottomans
grimvard
No. Just no. Ottomans failed because of their stupidity. Investigate how Sultans were chosen during the last 100-150 ears. 1/x
grimvard
Turkey was waaaaaaaaay way better when republic was first set up. It was modern. It was developing realy fast. Then Ataturk died. 2/x
grimvard
Most of the reforms were slowed down, debt and US sympathy grew in government. Harmful and wrong islamic groups settled in government. 3/x
IHaveAPhrasalUserNameLikeThisOneCauseTheyAlwaysGetTheTopComment
Turkey and their sultan kan kiss their EU membership goodbye if you ask me.
MemeStealingSkeleton
Kind of makes you wish the coup was successful. Turkey has strayed far from the secularism it once had.
SunBrolem
What coup? You mean the fake one Erdogan used to seize power?
crapoki
Except this coup wasn't done by secularists? There are more Kemalists in the army now than just before the coup
BednaR
"Kind"???!
Noob3rts
I hope you don't believe the coup was actually ever going to succeed in any way shape or form. It was staged so he could gain more power and
Noob3rts
basically try to go on and revive the Ottoman empire.
Blazefast
That coupe might be staged, Erdogan is now entering Syria and seems to be a smart chess player as some others. Will see..
Ssssssssssss
Just remember that today's heroes are usually tomorrow's monsters, and they will probably have faults too.
carebearsandstares
Maybe, but talk like that is what causes religious crusades/wars, Different cultures, different values, can't force them to change.
Marchdragon
last thing the region needs is another civil war. A Turkish civil war would be far more horrendous than Syria NATO would have to step in too
BayazTheBenevolent
A turkish civil war could be the spark to ignite WW3. The turkish military is terribly well trained and equipped.
Marchdragon
Exactly.
berkay
no. like really, no. no matter which way you cut it, it would end with a tremendous death toll,
brickweed
The coup was a show organized by Erdogan to make means to "renew" the government and the whole jurisdiction system.. It wasn't a real coup.
realskramz
The coup was made by an Islamist group within the govt/military. If it was successful we wouldn't have become any more secular.
tropicanah
Who would replace Erdogan? Probably some Islamists. Or there would be a power struggle. Ie: Syria, Lybia and the list goes on
override367
wasn't a real coup, it was staged, dude had thousands arrested/purged immediately after, that list was ready to go
BayazTheBenevolent
Call me a tinfoil hat conspiracy theorist but I for one am convinced that the coup was designed to fail.
tallbo
I agree.
BayazTheBenevolent
2) So the AKP would get a Carte Blanche to get rid of all those pesky political dissenters. It's the turkish version of Reichstag burning.
SanddanGlokta
A middle eastern country led by the military, that sounds great
MemeStealingSkeleton
No, before the cunt in charge they were doing okay
destinoz
Google "Turkey History Military Coups" then read. You wouldn't believe me if I just told you.
VaultDweller
It should have been. Unfortunately that goes against Obamas agenda so he put a stop to it.
PaintedSlate
Poe's law decision point: I'm gonna guess your response is sarcasm, logically...though I'm not feeling it here. How'd I do?
SanddanGlokta
Because it is Obama's right to determine the fate of another country
Liquidbullets
Um.. what?
SnarkyScience
Although Obama didn't actively oppose the coup, he's referring to the fact that the secular gov coup doesn't like the US much.
SnarkyScience
So the administration was pleased that it failed. Human rights violations are easy to throw money at. A pliable leader is more rare.
DesolateMirror
It sucked to see western leaders on the news the day after praising the fact that it failed.
KingChadawg
For real you act like this only happens in turkey the world is fucked up man
Belacor
You guys are great about not being here and not living this shit and judging. You can start chanting USA USA USA now.
DefunkMyJunk
*tourism income dropped by 30 or 40% this year* gee if only we knew why
Belacor
Omg tourism income noooo. Dude we are literally dying out here who gives a fuck about tourism...
TheOngoingQuestForThePerfectUsername
Trans people are murdered depressingly often in many countries, including the US. Surprised people are saying it's because it's Turkey.
Uplinkdsanrok
Suicides are more common in the community for the US. Use actual facts or push your BS on Tumblr instead.
Nibarlan
The difference is murdering a trans or gay person is illegal in the US and is punishable by death in some areas. In Turkey and 1/2
Nibarlan
2/2 other islamic countries being gay or trans is punishable by anything ranging from fines to death.
SunBrolem
Oh COME ON. This shit? Really? Let me list all the times in the US or UK a trans person was raped, beaten, then immolated for being trans:
shedooooooooo
Yup. And women in general too. On this site you only hear about the slightest or even hypothetical injustice a man might experience though.
ganzuul
They probably were men once, so take it that as you will.
madgodrhinoprime
Shouldnt really be surprised, it's turkey.
njullpointer
the difference is, in sane countries without barbaric islamic culture, it's treated as a crime rather than "just one of those things"
RepostSadistic
I was wondering when the 'blame America first and often' crowd will show up
RaisinZetaJones
1/ Because Turkey has an AWFUL track record when it comes to LGBT rights, unfortunately. Police in NA will at least usually investigate LGBT
RaisinZetaJones
2/ crimes -- I'm sure bias and prejudice still plays out, of course -- but the inverse is true in Turkey, a "liberal democracy".
RaisinZetaJones
3/ Add in the fact that Turkey has been attempting to Westernize since Ataturk, and it's so, so far behind that it's an LGBT hellhole.
Rin007
Isn't the largest percentage of homeless people below 18 also trans, homosexuals etc.? At least it's what I think I read, for the US.
saintjocks
Hey its tragedy when far away its meh it happends when its home, its fucked up i know
SidneyHarbor
The US is probably about the 17th most tolerant nation on Earth, so while not perfect, it's certainly better than so many others.
shedooooooooo
It's better, but you can't even make it through life as a woman without having a 1/4 chance of being raped while walking to your car alone.
madgodrhinoprime
Didnt know you lived in the congo, or did you sit into to many of the thoooooose lectures?
shedooooooooo
It's actually the correct statistic for the United States. Check it yourself. Or are all women lying about being raped?
madgodrhinoprime
Do you have a source for that statistic?
MissSiesta
Yep. That's a good excuse not to do anything to improve the situation!
Himser
behind every single other western nation.
failphins2
Yeah, there are only 17 western nations /s
TheOngoingQuestForThePerfectUsername
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_unlawfully_killed_transgender_people
Uplinkdsanrok
When did Wikipedia become acceptable source material?
rudejohn
This is all transgender killed. Some were killed while committing robberies, some by boyfriends/girlfriends in domestic violence incidents.
rudejohn
That doesn't make their lives worth less, or their deaths less tragic, but not many of the incidents on your list were hate crime related.
bond100
That's actually nowhere near as bad as it's made out to be, ~100 in 30 years in a country of 320 million is statistically negligible
CitizenDickbag
At least 20 in 2016 so far. And that's probably an undercount. Since trans people are just .6% of the population, that's high for a demo.
RaisinZetaJones
That assumes that every trans murder is correctly recorded and logged into Wikipedia. That's not the case whatsoever.
badspyro
Those are the ones found and reported on, so they can be collected. Many trans murder victims are mis-gendered, mis-named, and 1/2
badspyro
Have their trans identity ignored by the media if the death is even reported on. Due to the issues with reporting it's likely a small %
RaisinZetaJones
1/ That's unfortunately a meaningless list; 1) Wikipedia doesn't collect all trans murders, only the "notable" ones, and 2) places with more
Terminology
That's true, but doesn't make the list meaningless. The point is just that this doesn't just happen in developing countries.
RaisinZetaJones
2/ media transparency like the US, UK, or Canada are going to have higher visibility for anti-trans homicides than a place like Turkey
RaisinZetaJones
3/ RSF's press freedom index has a rank of 41 for the US, 38 for the UK, 18 for Canada, and 151 for Turkey, so that list is tucked
RaisinZetaJones
4/ behind several layers of opacity: Easy media access for Anglo Wiki editors, and easy access to homicides by the Anglo media.
HurkWurk
i cant help but think, raping a trans is a gay act, so the rapist should also be burned?
ProfAwesome1986
Thats the first thing that came to my Head!
Insomnia297
Yes. Plus, I mean, he just raped somebody so he's got that against him too.
Caffynated
"If you find anyone doing as Lot's people did, kill the one who does it, and the one to whom it is done." - Muhammad
angryflamingo
"A trans"? Because that definitely doesn't sound derogative. and unless /her/ rapist was a woman, it's not a gay act.
mynameiswednesday
didnt actually say that they were trans, just that they were a trans activist
luchie24
She may have had the op
loganlscott
it isn't gay because that person is not a male just because she isn't afab doesn't mean she is still male because she Is so obviously female
Equilibriator
probably raped THEN realised was a guy, so killed
bcmandude
there are no anti-sodomy laws in Turkey.
Handsterbator
One of those "I'll fuck you 'til you love me, faggot" situations
onthefridge
welcome to the middle east. Men are for pleasure women are for breeding. learn your cultures. also dont push beliefs in a country like that.
AsAGayFellow
Don't know why you were downvoted, the village men in Afghanistan literally told that exact thing to us at dinner one night.
onthefridge
i know. people like their nice safe box and dont understand whats outside of it.
shedooooooooo
The whole culture of sex there seems BDSM to me. Especially the burkas for women. Like it turns them on to view women as sexual property.
fuck123456789
why would raping a woman be gay?
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MrMcCookieMuffin
>agrees >gets downvoted AF :(
MistressJubbs
A MtF is still technically a man. Especially as seen through Islamic perception.
Greymalum
Penetrate = dominate. Like tea bagging or you're calling your enemy a faggot. It may degrade and definitely shows superior force.
iJug27
She's an activist, so that doesn't mean she herself is trans
NeoNo1
She was trans activist. She was trans herself
ItsTrickayy
Interesting point that could be the case, but I think inferring from the tweet it's likely that the victim was trans.
Dubrtd
According to their fucked up religion they did good.
SomeDetroitGuy
In Turkey, it's totally not gay to get your dick sucked by a dude or fuck a dude in the ass. Only to receive.
mmmmmmShaiHulud
Not just Turkey. Most Prisons, Politicians, Priests, rich and Powerful all over the world.
Obsidianfire1001
I don't think that's how it works. Turkey must be confused.
GamersLastLife
Wow. That's pretty gay.
Phenome
It's only gay if you look em in the eyes! No homo.
Rymdblomma
Nono, it's only gay if the balls touch. But even then if you say no homo, it's no homo. No homo trumps all.
UVBNAXED
Yes, I think ALL rapists should be burned. Among other things.
periwinklepanda
Agreed
ICanChangeMyUsernameWheneverIWantButIDontBecauseIAmGodDamnLazy
I prefer imprisoned myself.
UVBNAXED
I feel the punishment should fit the crime. A prison sentence is a vacation for some criminals.
ICanChangeMyUsernameWheneverIWantButIDontBecauseIAmGodDamnLazy
I'm more into rehabilitation than punishment. Something about burning a person to death doesn't sit right with me. Don't know why.
UVBNAXED
Agreed, but I'd rather castrate a rapist as rehab.
diev
I take it you've been to prison?
MistressJubbs
Homosexual acts are encouraged, being a homosexual is punishable.
nosygoonpirate
No homo
CodePurple
Standingranby
Makes sense. Way to go Turkey. Assholes.
BronzeLeaguePro
So basically, make sure that balls don't touch, and say "no homo" and you'll be fine?
TemporaryUzername
no. that's not true. how the fuck did you ever come up with that.
Ilikeyogurt
Ehh huh?
MrMcCookieMuffin
So as long as you don't date guys and make sure everyone knows it was just a brojob its all cool? Wtffffff
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Elonth
basically yeah. i don't remember the middleeastern term for it. but its basically "i'm an elderly authority man, now i have sex with yourson
prufock
Pedastry?
Cyphereous
So, literally what dogs do? "I am humping you, therefor I am superior!"
BungusAmungus
The rage and hatred this fuels in me is fucking nuts. Fuckin pedo fucking backward ass mentality in some people.
Elonth
basically. as long as you are giving and not receiving, you aren't gay. so rape is okay. but then you kill the victim for being gay.
tubbyraccoon
The ultimate game of no homo
docweird
Islam Logic (tm)? Just as fucked up as everything else about Islam. *Dons fire retardant suit*
Hamado
Who told you that's true?! It's not. :)
ShadowbanMyAss
and every other religion on the planet
dryerlint
Abrahamoc religions man...
docweird
It's not what it says, it's how you practice it. If you ask me...
jorynagel
Seriously?
raidleadergutts
Yes. Turk here, lots of "tough guys" fuck gay guys, but consider themselves not gay because they're giving and not receiving. Go figure.
Hamado
No, it's not real. Some people are making that up.
raidleadergutts
As a turkish guy, it most definitely is a real and widespread thing. It's only gay if you're receiving. Or so some people think.
Hamado
1/2 And as a Saudi guy who studied Hadith, Quran, sharia law, etc for 12 years through public school, I tell you it's not real....
SamuraiFoxes
as a dominance thing- ass rape subjugates the victim, regardless of gender.
homicidalslayer
Rape as an act of dominance isn't really about sexuality, it's about power and brutality.
jorynagel
Not being sarcastic, that just seems really strange.
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BoopityBap
Money can be exchanged for goods and services.
MistressJubbs
Dicking a guy (or young boy in many cases) in the ass is totally ok; getting dicked in the ass is not.
Orochizilla
astronave
Excellent use of gif.
EzraFell
That is a massive hypocrisy.
Sauroctonus
They probably "excuse" as a show of power over someone they deem to be "inferior ".
SunBrolem
Welcome to Islam.
IridescentLotus
Yeah it's basically a play on power