As usual in practically every situation where a group is involved... maybe. It depends on the jew, just as the other way around is nowhere close to a guarantee either just because it happened this once.
Think it's worse that he actually prefer it's never mentioned at all. Hard for even the inquisitive to find the truth about something they've never even heard of.
By definition, he would be all of those things; the difference is whether or not you believe in his cause. Basically, it's down to the old adage about "Terrorists and Freedom Fighters"; it depends which side you're on. But the truth is they are the same thing.
It's not. Moral relativism is a complicated topic, but saying "they're the same" and "they're totally different" are both too reductive. It's shades of grey, with one still being worse. Nazis thought they were heros, as did the allies- but the Nazis did the Holocaust and the allies didn't. Desantis can claim he's a freedom fighter, but his words mean nothing when his actions enact the opposite. We're justified judging him, especially as an elected official.
OK there, bud. The first thing any real student of history learns is that there are no moral absolutes. Whether or not you are capable of acknowledging this doesn't alter the fact. But I'm not going to argue with you; believe whatever makes things easier for you to get through life.
As a person with a history degree, no, that is not "the first thing you learn". Again, ridiculous. "There are no moral absolutes" is a moral philosophical statement. History is about figuring out which things happened in the past, not casting moral judgment. Those two things are absolutely not the same. If you honestly believe "there is no moral absolutes", you have a bankrupt moral philosophy. Genocide is morally wrong. Rape is morally wrong. No matter when they occur. Do you disagree?
As another person with a history degree, I can say with absolute certainty that people can, and will, justify literally any act and have perfectly valid reasons for doing so according to their own values. The fact that you or I or the majority of a society may think something is "evil" is irrelevant; the point I tried to make was that someone else may believe differently, and that belief may not be wrong according to THEIR perspective. Good or evil is only a matter of where you happen to be...
deadtedw
They didn't mention that it was a glitter bomb. Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!
slamEVIL
Pride
DurkVell
According to Wikipedia he said: "Zeg de mensen dat homoseksuelen niet per definitie zwakkelingen zijn." I don't think he said it in English.
Iblamemyparentstoo
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willem_Arondeus
PrincessWendyB
Weapons grade gay.
FancySharkDinnerParty
mckjm2
And give the fascies the bashies!
vicvalour
DTCarl05
tkwesa
Kind of a jerk to fight those anti Nazis...
All4games
I think this is a missquote. As I recall it was “let it be known homosexuals are not by definition weak.”
But the quote I think came through his lawyer.
Jamnew60
We know Willem, we know homosexuals are not cowards. We also know you are a hero.
notmyrealface
This guy was awesome. He was also a graphic designer who made the art on wall calendars. His art was beautiful.
Shaows
Explosively Gay
halfmexicanhalfamazing
dingofdong
*Violently* Gay, in the most based of ways
geoffreyfourmyle
or the Trans Am approach
ITweetBBQ
Why would anyone fight anti-nazis?
ElectricNoodle
Thought the same thing
boostcreep
He fought anti-Nazis?
Goodmerlinpeen
And a US fighter pilot is what?
itsalwaysdickbutt
Do you think gay people would recieve the same protection from Jewish people?
adiving
As usual in practically every situation where a group is involved... maybe. It depends on the jew, just as the other way around is nowhere close to a guarantee either just because it happened this once.
mercyPandaRunner
Ehrenmann!
DigitalWaffle
Cowards? My gay friends are some of the bravest and strongest I know.
TsubakiTragic
same
nixwheenie
I’m gay
DigitalWaffle
Hi Gay. I’m dad.
nixwheenie
Ftw 🙌
lpooptoomuch
viggo mortensen should play this guy in a movie
Cravanicus
Nah, Billy Eichner!
Badprenup
Only if he can break his toe kicking the bomb into the window of the records office.
MachoMemeRandySavage
You misspelled, Daniel-Day Lewis.
deadtedw
And, of course, it should be a musical.
Soufange
I want Gerard Butler in it, and every time he's about to sing, he gets cut off by Hugh Jackman
deadtedw
They go back and forth, then it turns into a duet.
depressedscientist
In Florida schools DeSantis prefers that ppl are taught that he was an anarchist and extremist and terrorist.
OptimisticMisanthrope
It won't be long before Florida starts teaching kids that the holocaust didn't happen and that the nazis were just misunderstood.
KatByte0
Think it's worse that he actually prefer it's never mentioned at all. Hard for even the inquisitive to find the truth about something they've never even heard of.
calledwylch
By definition, he would be all of those things; the difference is whether or not you believe in his cause. Basically, it's down to the old adage about "Terrorists and Freedom Fighters"; it depends which side you're on. But the truth is they are the same thing.
KatByte0
It's not. Moral relativism is a complicated topic, but saying "they're the same" and "they're totally different" are both too reductive. It's shades of grey, with one still being worse. Nazis thought they were heros, as did the allies- but the Nazis did the Holocaust and the allies didn't. Desantis can claim he's a freedom fighter, but his words mean nothing when his actions enact the opposite. We're justified judging him, especially as an elected official.
PinkyTheUnicorn2
That’s ridiculous. There is no Nazi moral relativism. They were wrong, their opponents were right to oppose them.
calledwylch
OK there, bud. The first thing any real student of history learns is that there are no moral absolutes. Whether or not you are capable of acknowledging this doesn't alter the fact. But I'm not going to argue with you; believe whatever makes things easier for you to get through life.
PinkyTheUnicorn2
As a person with a history degree, no, that is not "the first thing you learn". Again, ridiculous. "There are no moral absolutes" is a moral philosophical statement. History is about figuring out which things happened in the past, not casting moral judgment. Those two things are absolutely not the same. If you honestly believe "there is no moral absolutes", you have a bankrupt moral philosophy. Genocide is morally wrong. Rape is morally wrong. No matter when they occur. Do you disagree?
calledwylch
As another person with a history degree, I can say with absolute certainty that people can, and will, justify literally any act and have perfectly valid reasons for doing so according to their own values. The fact that you or I or the majority of a society may think something is "evil" is irrelevant; the point I tried to make was that someone else may believe differently, and that belief may not be wrong according to THEIR perspective. Good or evil is only a matter of where you happen to be...