Aug 17, 2016 10:44 PM
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Iuseanavatargifforalmostnothing
Which pixel is his shirt?
Mikefreakinhart
mishmashmish
Just because it's feminists in both cases, doesn't mean they are the same exact feminists with the same exact views of feminism
thesaneusername
This was stupid when It was relevant
PlantainSuperNova
Let this shit go imgur. Even the guy knew it was a minor blunder and apologized for it.
SpicyEmpanadas
Oh, hello 2014. Didn't know you were in town...
SpaceISIS
striking when the iron's hot eh?
AcadiaEinstein
As a white man, the fact that people see this as a "problem" is fucking embarrassing. Goddamn.
thanatos777
Jesus fucking Christ, these comments; the only time Imgur cares about online harassment is when a white dude is subject to it.
Groznek
Ugh, you guys are literally necromancing this back up? The shirt WAS inappropriate for a public event.
IveBeenSlackingMyWholeLife
OMFG, this shit again?
PirateMatt
Landed a spacecraft on a comet with tech that's old af and with a ton of lag time. Bugs me when the downplay the immensity of what he did.
MrFrondi
Am on the fucking Red Pill sub right now??
sorosfieldops
It's Imgur so yeah.
Nobody7713
Redpill is revolting.
grandfaloon
You can drag a dead horse to water, but you can't make it float.
icyvaynes
Well with all the built up gases for a bit it would float. But that wouldn't be you making it float.. Nvm.
Pangs
Of course you can. You just need a lot of water wings.
YouCanGoFuckYourself
TeeFour
You're totally right OP, those women do deserve to get raped. These photos are related and relevant.
wrekemrobbie
I'm pretty sure the women in the picture's definition of rape is very different from yours.
FukinSLAYYYYYER
How does a "slut walk" prevent rape and how many of those participating have been a victim of rape
Boxxyforpresident
Whatyearisit.gif
IAmGodot
How long ago was this? And you're still offended?
13thDukeofWybourne
And did you hear that people of the so called "religion of peace" flew a plane into the World Trade Cen- hold on, TWO planes even!
DoctorMantisTobogganMD
Silly sleepy sheep, that was PRESIDENT BUSH
No it wasn't it was 'em ther' demOcats makin' him look bad. (That was hard to type.)
bvheck
This thing again
discardedusername
All I really want, is to be able to take my shirt off in summer heat.... How I feel seeing guys shirtless
docileirish
not many people will argue
Sigh, and yet they do...a bra that covers more and it's more supportive than a bikini, is likely to get a ticket for exposure -_-
WardStradlater
This is Ground Control to Major Tom You've really made the grade And the papers want to know whose shirts you wear...
makesense
repost and this was already argued before
Wastyvez
Dude how else will it move? Also hitting it wrong spot. Gotta look for a reflex point. Geeshhh! Science man science. Oh wait different point
kayakninjas
Seriously. How long ago was this, again?
stayawhilestayforever
Why is that gentleman repeatedly striking that humpless camel?
Mrocco
I want this to be super fast
hello please gif-magicians make it ultrafast thanks
Taumaos
Just going to keep this for when the GF is trying to call me out for something last year again
FlatPlutoSociety
Let us know how that works out.
Didn't go well at all
What a surprise.
SepiaSkies
Read the signs in the 1st image. Dude, they're asking to kindly not be raped. Could you strawman any harder?
secretlibby
This dude's a grown-up. When someone didn't like his shirt, he put on another shirt, apologized, and got on with his awesome life.
ChickenROAR
Restricting someone from what they say or do, just because it offends them is ridiculous. It makes our generation weak and stupid.
We shouldn't encourage it.
People do it all the time. It has nothing to do with weakness or stupidity; it's courtesy and tact.
MrXandHisNewHat
Not after having a breakdown and having one of his greatest achievements belittled due to his choice of attire.
draco91
What did he have ti l to apologia for?
Crockpotseal
For wearing a shirt that had cartoon women in bikinis on it
PlesiosaurWithElementsOfAnIdeaOfTheLochNessMonsterBoy
Nothing.
Some people would rather be happy than be right. Apologies are a cheap and easy way to smooth ruffled feathers over trivial matters.
Yes but he had nothing to apologize for
albert125
Bad taste
WhatRaySay
sometimes adults will apologize for the consequence even if their intent was pure. just a grown-up social grace, it's not for everybody.
Ah good point, you're absolutely right. He was brought to tears due to harassment though. Hard to see the justice in this one
well that's shitty, I didn't know people got that amped up about it. people on the internet just fuckn suck all around
Yeah...there were front page articles on huff post and buzzfeed i believe about how terrible he was. Not exactly great sources but still
By going with it, he left his detractors with nothing to complain about. He made a molehill out of a mountain.
Yes, a mountain that shouldn't have been more than a molehill to begin with
Who would you rather be, the person getting complaints for their fashion choice, or the person getting raped for their fashion choice?
I don't know how that's related to this situation but great logical fallacy. It's not the 1970s, people aren't blaming the clothes for rape
thecactusfucker
OP, these cases were both women desiring not to be treated as sex objects. The shirt was covered in pictures of women in sexualized context.
Hey a women can be sexy and into pin-up and still be strong.
A woman can be strong in any context, but she can also still be objectified, no matter how strong she is.
And you can be strong and let it go and keep working hard to prove you are equal. Men can be objectified as well.
niccmacc
thank you for pointing this out, im baffled at how this isn't obvious :(
ScienceDoer
Big difference between being raped and blamed for what you were wearing and being criticized for what you chose to wear on TV, guys...
pringlesyum
This is imgur. Context does not exist when we can feel sorry for and have solidarity with a nerdy white guy with bad fashion sense.
much connection between these images.
Also I don't think anyone forced him to do anything. He decided to apologize himself. Good dude who was unfairly targeted but I don't see
I mean, in both cases, the women are arguing not be objectified.
PhonySoprano
Omg shut the fuck up
EveryonesRaping
'objectification' is niterally nonsense. it comes from fucking art theory. men like looking (hard) at hot chicks. don't like it? leave earth
wadatahmydamie
Way to damage @OP's safe space, presumably cis scum!
fortheloveofsandwiches
don't get logical! it ruins op's ability to get butt hurt
[deleted]
objectivity=/= objectification
Ifidonttelltheinternetwhowill
And in both cases there were rabid hypocrites.
Why is it you only ever see people who don't know what "hypocrite" means using the word "hypocrite?"
somebodyfightme
They're trying to force the acceptance of revealing woman as normality towards men, THEN getting offended by its acceptance from said men.
PPIIBBSS
Lol THAT shirt is about the opposite of acceptance, and the exact definition of objectification. Not a big deal like it was made to be tho
"the treatment of a person as a tool for the objectifier's purposes;" that is the "inherent definition. Not sure how a shirt can objectify.
The top group is arguing against the notion that if you wear revealing clothes and are raped, you were asking for it. Their point is 1/2
that you should be able to choose what to wear without being objectified for it. The scientist wore something that objectified women 2/3
In both cases, the women don't want to be objectified. Just bc they wear revealing clothing didnt mean they consent to being objectified 3/3
"Consent to being OBJECTIFIED"? Stop using a meaningless buzzword, if wearing a shirt MADE by a woman with a CARTOON of a woman on it. 1/2
somerandomskeptic
I get what OP was getting at. But he used the wrong argunent for the first bit. Its the whole "not deserving it because of clothes" deal.
Notfiryew
Thing is, that argument doesnt make sense. Just because it can fit on a shirt doesn't make it ok to wear e.g. slogans like "kill all n..."
Like, no, sometimes you actually need to realize that sometimes UNEVEN measured are needed to bring oppressed groups up to an equal footing
Dude exactly. It's like black ppl saying they should be able to use the word, and then us getting mad cuz we can't use it.
i dont recall his shirt saying kill all women. Unfair example there buddy.
140 char isnt enough. "not deserving it because of clothes" is way too general is my point. Saying women aren't asking to be raped by [1/2]
wearing little clothing is not the same as saying all clothes are appropriate to wear. [2/2]
princessfakecake
I think the shirt was hilarious but from a professional standpoint it wasnt appropriate to wear for the interview.
bixby66
It is singularly the worst shirt in the world.
flamingflamingo
That's not the issue, and who cares, he landed a spacecraft on a fucking COMET. He can wear ku klux klan garb if he wants to imo.
MoJoVixen
Yes! That exactly!
dEXm64
That's really not the issue here, nor was it what he was berated for.
1- But it should be. The shirt took focus off of the work. It IS a risky shirt, hence the hilarity but also the lack of professionalism.
4-alienated and objectified in STEM fields is a fairly well-known issue. If you
3-Which again, is unprofessional. I think it was shitty that people ripped him to the degree that they did, but feeling women feeling
2- Unless you are in the arts, risky clothing choices ARE unprofessional. A shirt like that does have the high potential to alienate people.
5-objective is to get more young people into STEM, you're possibly alienating half your audience who see a future of bro-y jokes/shirts.
I'd emulate and go on a 5 comment tirade but suffice to say I disagree and I think you are wrong.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
VigorousButtstuff
Fuck that noise. If you want to appeal to teens, who are at the age to make decisions about their career direction? Don't be stuffy.
This dude probably got more metalheads into science than pretty much any other scientist/physicist Ever.
And then those metalheads watched society chew him up and spit him out. Saw how they might be treated too, and probably dropped the sciences
Maybe, but he also might have alienated a lot of women who aren't as comfortable with pin-up girl shirts in the office.
News flash: People who are there for the science? Don't give a shit. A shirt doesn't alter sample data.
No, but the people who wear pinup girl shirts might also be more likely to suggest you add a male author before you publish a paper.
Iuseanavatargifforalmostnothing
Which pixel is his shirt?
Mikefreakinhart
mishmashmish
Just because it's feminists in both cases, doesn't mean they are the same exact feminists with the same exact views of feminism
thesaneusername
This was stupid when It was relevant
PlantainSuperNova
Let this shit go imgur. Even the guy knew it was a minor blunder and apologized for it.
SpicyEmpanadas
Oh, hello 2014. Didn't know you were in town...
SpaceISIS
striking when the iron's hot eh?
AcadiaEinstein
As a white man, the fact that people see this as a "problem" is fucking embarrassing. Goddamn.
thanatos777
Jesus fucking Christ, these comments; the only time Imgur cares about online harassment is when a white dude is subject to it.
Groznek
Ugh, you guys are literally necromancing this back up? The shirt WAS inappropriate for a public event.
IveBeenSlackingMyWholeLife
OMFG, this shit again?
PirateMatt
Landed a spacecraft on a comet with tech that's old af and with a ton of lag time. Bugs me when the downplay the immensity of what he did.
MrFrondi
Am on the fucking Red Pill sub right now??
sorosfieldops
It's Imgur so yeah.
Nobody7713
Redpill is revolting.
grandfaloon
You can drag a dead horse to water, but you can't make it float.
icyvaynes
Well with all the built up gases for a bit it would float. But that wouldn't be you making it float.. Nvm.
Pangs
Of course you can. You just need a lot of water wings.
YouCanGoFuckYourself
TeeFour
You're totally right OP, those women do deserve to get raped. These photos are related and relevant.
wrekemrobbie
I'm pretty sure the women in the picture's definition of rape is very different from yours.
FukinSLAYYYYYER
How does a "slut walk" prevent rape and how many of those participating have been a victim of rape
Boxxyforpresident
Whatyearisit.gif
IAmGodot
How long ago was this? And you're still offended?
13thDukeofWybourne
And did you hear that people of the so called "religion of peace" flew a plane into the World Trade Cen- hold on, TWO planes even!
DoctorMantisTobogganMD
Silly sleepy sheep, that was PRESIDENT BUSH
icyvaynes
No it wasn't it was 'em ther' demOcats makin' him look bad. (That was hard to type.)
bvheck
This thing again
discardedusername
All I really want, is to be able to take my shirt off in summer heat.... How I feel seeing guys shirtless
docileirish
not many people will argue
discardedusername
Sigh, and yet they do...a bra that covers more and it's more supportive than a bikini, is likely to get a ticket for exposure -_-
WardStradlater
This is Ground Control to Major Tom You've really made the grade And the papers want to know whose shirts you wear...
makesense
repost and this was already argued before
Wastyvez
icyvaynes
Dude how else will it move? Also hitting it wrong spot. Gotta look for a reflex point. Geeshhh! Science man science. Oh wait different point
kayakninjas
Seriously. How long ago was this, again?
stayawhilestayforever
Why is that gentleman repeatedly striking that humpless camel?
Mrocco
I want this to be super fast
Mrocco
hello please gif-magicians make it ultrafast thanks
Taumaos
Just going to keep this for when the GF is trying to call me out for something last year again
FlatPlutoSociety
Let us know how that works out.
Taumaos
Didn't go well at all
FlatPlutoSociety
What a surprise.
SepiaSkies
secretlibby
This dude's a grown-up. When someone didn't like his shirt, he put on another shirt, apologized, and got on with his awesome life.
ChickenROAR
Restricting someone from what they say or do, just because it offends them is ridiculous. It makes our generation weak and stupid.
ChickenROAR
We shouldn't encourage it.
secretlibby
People do it all the time. It has nothing to do with weakness or stupidity; it's courtesy and tact.
MrXandHisNewHat
Not after having a breakdown and having one of his greatest achievements belittled due to his choice of attire.
draco91
What did he have ti l to apologia for?
Crockpotseal
For wearing a shirt that had cartoon women in bikinis on it
PlesiosaurWithElementsOfAnIdeaOfTheLochNessMonsterBoy
Nothing.
secretlibby
Some people would rather be happy than be right. Apologies are a cheap and easy way to smooth ruffled feathers over trivial matters.
Crockpotseal
Yes but he had nothing to apologize for
albert125
Bad taste
WhatRaySay
sometimes adults will apologize for the consequence even if their intent was pure. just a grown-up social grace, it's not for everybody.
Crockpotseal
Ah good point, you're absolutely right. He was brought to tears due to harassment though. Hard to see the justice in this one
WhatRaySay
well that's shitty, I didn't know people got that amped up about it. people on the internet just fuckn suck all around
Crockpotseal
Yeah...there were front page articles on huff post and buzzfeed i believe about how terrible he was. Not exactly great sources but still
secretlibby
By going with it, he left his detractors with nothing to complain about. He made a molehill out of a mountain.
Crockpotseal
Yes, a mountain that shouldn't have been more than a molehill to begin with
secretlibby
Who would you rather be, the person getting complaints for their fashion choice, or the person getting raped for their fashion choice?
Crockpotseal
I don't know how that's related to this situation but great logical fallacy. It's not the 1970s, people aren't blaming the clothes for rape
thecactusfucker
OP, these cases were both women desiring not to be treated as sex objects. The shirt was covered in pictures of women in sexualized context.
icyvaynes
Hey a women can be sexy and into pin-up and still be strong.
thecactusfucker
A woman can be strong in any context, but she can also still be objectified, no matter how strong she is.
icyvaynes
And you can be strong and let it go and keep working hard to prove you are equal. Men can be objectified as well.
niccmacc
thank you for pointing this out, im baffled at how this isn't obvious :(
ScienceDoer
Big difference between being raped and blamed for what you were wearing and being criticized for what you chose to wear on TV, guys...
pringlesyum
This is imgur. Context does not exist when we can feel sorry for and have solidarity with a nerdy white guy with bad fashion sense.
ScienceDoer
much connection between these images.
ScienceDoer
Also I don't think anyone forced him to do anything. He decided to apologize himself. Good dude who was unfairly targeted but I don't see
mishmashmish
I mean, in both cases, the women are arguing not be objectified.
PhonySoprano
Omg shut the fuck up
EveryonesRaping
'objectification' is niterally nonsense. it comes from fucking art theory. men like looking (hard) at hot chicks. don't like it? leave earth
wadatahmydamie
Way to damage @OP's safe space, presumably cis scum!
fortheloveofsandwiches
don't get logical! it ruins op's ability to get butt hurt
[deleted]
[deleted]
fortheloveofsandwiches
objectivity=/= objectification
Ifidonttelltheinternetwhowill
And in both cases there were rabid hypocrites.
mishmashmish
wadatahmydamie
Why is it you only ever see people who don't know what "hypocrite" means using the word "hypocrite?"
somebodyfightme
They're trying to force the acceptance of revealing woman as normality towards men, THEN getting offended by its acceptance from said men.
PPIIBBSS
Lol THAT shirt is about the opposite of acceptance, and the exact definition of objectification. Not a big deal like it was made to be tho
somebodyfightme
"the treatment of a person as a tool for the objectifier's purposes;" that is the "inherent definition. Not sure how a shirt can objectify.
mishmashmish
The top group is arguing against the notion that if you wear revealing clothes and are raped, you were asking for it. Their point is 1/2
mishmashmish
that you should be able to choose what to wear without being objectified for it. The scientist wore something that objectified women 2/3
mishmashmish
In both cases, the women don't want to be objectified. Just bc they wear revealing clothing didnt mean they consent to being objectified 3/3
somebodyfightme
"Consent to being OBJECTIFIED"? Stop using a meaningless buzzword, if wearing a shirt MADE by a woman with a CARTOON of a woman on it. 1/2
somerandomskeptic
I get what OP was getting at. But he used the wrong argunent for the first bit. Its the whole "not deserving it because of clothes" deal.
Notfiryew
Thing is, that argument doesnt make sense. Just because it can fit on a shirt doesn't make it ok to wear e.g. slogans like "kill all n..."
PPIIBBSS
Like, no, sometimes you actually need to realize that sometimes UNEVEN measured are needed to bring oppressed groups up to an equal footing
PPIIBBSS
Dude exactly. It's like black ppl saying they should be able to use the word, and then us getting mad cuz we can't use it.
somerandomskeptic
i dont recall his shirt saying kill all women. Unfair example there buddy.
Notfiryew
140 char isnt enough. "not deserving it because of clothes" is way too general is my point. Saying women aren't asking to be raped by [1/2]
Notfiryew
wearing little clothing is not the same as saying all clothes are appropriate to wear. [2/2]
princessfakecake
I think the shirt was hilarious but from a professional standpoint it wasnt appropriate to wear for the interview.
bixby66
It is singularly the worst shirt in the world.
flamingflamingo
That's not the issue, and who cares, he landed a spacecraft on a fucking COMET. He can wear ku klux klan garb if he wants to imo.
MoJoVixen
Yes! That exactly!
dEXm64
That's really not the issue here, nor was it what he was berated for.
princessfakecake
1- But it should be. The shirt took focus off of the work. It IS a risky shirt, hence the hilarity but also the lack of professionalism.
princessfakecake
4-alienated and objectified in STEM fields is a fairly well-known issue. If you
princessfakecake
3-Which again, is unprofessional. I think it was shitty that people ripped him to the degree that they did, but feeling women feeling
princessfakecake
2- Unless you are in the arts, risky clothing choices ARE unprofessional. A shirt like that does have the high potential to alienate people.
princessfakecake
5-objective is to get more young people into STEM, you're possibly alienating half your audience who see a future of bro-y jokes/shirts.
dEXm64
I'd emulate and go on a 5 comment tirade but suffice to say I disagree and I think you are wrong.
princessfakecake
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
VigorousButtstuff
Fuck that noise. If you want to appeal to teens, who are at the age to make decisions about their career direction? Don't be stuffy.
VigorousButtstuff
This dude probably got more metalheads into science than pretty much any other scientist/physicist Ever.
VigorousButtstuff
And then those metalheads watched society chew him up and spit him out. Saw how they might be treated too, and probably dropped the sciences
princessfakecake
Maybe, but he also might have alienated a lot of women who aren't as comfortable with pin-up girl shirts in the office.
VigorousButtstuff
News flash: People who are there for the science? Don't give a shit. A shirt doesn't alter sample data.
princessfakecake
No, but the people who wear pinup girl shirts might also be more likely to suggest you add a male author before you publish a paper.