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Link to story:
https://www.npr.org/2023/12/03/1216852611/palestinian-student-shot-in-vermont-is-paralyzed-from-chest-down-his-family-says
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camcam1234
I can't believe the IDF are shooting people in America.
GreatOdinsTaint
These people are being genocided in their own homeland and targeted for hate crimes here in the states, and the US government doesn't seem to give a shit about either.
juiceman
LOL @ "were able to survive." Can we just call it "American" and not "English (US)"?
ryzynforce
That's it... I have completely given up on humanity.
EnderSwe
There was a time in my life when I wanted to visit the US. It was a long time ago and now I wouldn’t even go if I was forced. I feel sorry for all the good people in the US who has to live in a such fucked up country.
TheDaharMaster
I think shemagh’s are neato
TheFastpaws
His life ruined by some bigot!
enotrevo
Shot simply for wearing his people's traditional clothing.
LondoMollari58
Rightoids like this fucker just waiting for what they think is an excuse to try and commit some murder. There is no political party of the face of the Earth that is less pro-life than the Republican party. These fuckers make the USSR look like a goddamned charity with their complete and utter disregard for human life and decency.
meadowmeal
poor guy wouldn't have to rely on gofundme for his medical bills in russia lmao
dandeliondreams
This mentally I’ll person does not represent Vermont!
AllAnusMorissette
Totallyscrewedinaustin
Here, have a gif.
AxelBeingCivil
I feel sorriest for this poor kid, but pour one out for Abdalhamid. Imagine getting shot in the ass and walking away with survivor's guilt for it because you were the lucky one.
metricman67
Stupid headline! He was shot in the spine not in Vermont!
IUpvoteEveryNicholasCageGIF
I really like dark humor when it's funny but this is just a poor attempt at best.
metricman67
I Didn’t imply anything! Didn’t make sense to me at first glance . English is the second language to me
IrrelevantHandle
Why no link to the GoFundMe?
controlsthepresent
This sucks on so many levels. I bet the nutjob thought they were Al Qaeda agents of Hillary or some shit. That's the US in a nutshell, we're so racist we don't even shoot the brown people we think we're actually mad at.
LaronX
Kid is white as fuck. They hate to hate. Skin colour is just one of the many things they hate. This is about being different from their twisted ways, no matter what is different about you
Stark1y
No, it's because the US media and AIPAC/Israel/IDF whatever have been spitting lie after lie and never correcting themselves, demonising Palestinians and saying things like the keffiyeh are 'terrorist' and 'antisemitic'.
pareidoliaperson
I think the media that make out palestians and anti israel as antisemitic is what's triggering them. Yeah, these exact same people who are antisemitic racists. Probably don't like the competition. Or probably they have no rational thought.
NotSomoneElse68
What pisses me off (this time) is rusty they need to have an $800,000 go fund me to cover medical costs after all of it.
MadamPuddifoot
That won't cover what's incurred already.
minipancho94
Its because of Israeli propaganda. Don't let them deflect their responsibility in inciting this attack.
Rhythmaster
I was looking for a picture of the shooter but I'm guessing it's a white, overweight dude with goatee and sunglasses.
TsubakiTragic
White, skinny dweeb. Ms Google is your friend. His name is Jason J Eaton.
liveOffOfDownVotes
allegedly. I don't mean to play devil's advocate, but the news portrays everyone as guilty until proven innocent.
maeta
" we're so racist we don't even shoot the brown people we think we're actually mad at."
Uhhhh... Can no one else see the problem here? So it's okay to shoot the "right" brown people? Seriously do you guys hear yourselves? Holy shit.
TacoPoweredHelicopter
You are really gad at interpretation
tarnok
That's not what they mean. They're being facetious to make a point, it's all fucking wrong. Why are all you nutbags significantly missing the part of your brain that develops nuance. Clearly from a significant lack of reading anything else but nra weekly. 🤦🏼♀️
JustAlex94
The fuck you mean yourselves? It's all freaking far right wing nazis and those who keep on saying "both sides." Anyone saying both sides at this point is just a closet nazi. Also you act like no other country is racist. Hilarious.
PressthamGravey
It's almost the people who shoot people they think are terrorists are terrorists themselves, but the mirror they look in will never say it.
maeta
I tried explaining this to a white friend of mine and he got so confused.
smorsdoeuvres
Minneapple23
Maine and Vermont are not generally places where one thinks of mass shootings, but thanks to the GOP hate machine and NRA, here we are.
BrownBubba
Also thanks to the media making anyone who speaks out against Israel's atrocities seem like an evil person
maeta
Yet another place marked off the list that I can not think about living, out even visiting probably. Sigh. Is there any state that isn't full of brain dead racists?
Kitakita
state? no. counties? Of course.
Leithoa
Vermont has a fascist problem that people ignore because it generally stays in the mountains after the pavement ends.
joot78
EVERY state is like this. The only thing dictating whether a state is red or blue is the % population in the sticks vs. the pavement.
mycatsings
To the surprise of no one, the press has been very quiet about this.
Lifk
Palestinian irish but the article seems to focus a lot on the palestinian part, despite the investigation still going on. Cynism goes both way. Maybe its actually better to not sraw conclusion and stirr turmoil if nobody is certain
Lifk
Nothing*
PointsAreForB1tches
Maybe bc they weren't shot for wearing a shamrock, but for wearing something else.
doctorId
You're ignoring that two other Palestinians were shot in the attack. As well as this part:
Hackwitch
There are two Vermonts, the ultra-progressive places like Burlington, and the rest of the state. Those "take back Vermont" signs you see painted on barns are usually conservative MAGA types upset by everyone else. Also when I lived there (2005-2012) there were two gun laws, total, "no one except an instructor engaged in the teaching students may bring a firearm onto school grounds" and "no minor under the age of 16 may carry a concealed handgun without their parents permission"
maeta
"ultra progressive areas like Burlington" you mean the place where this hate crime occurred?
meadowmeal
Target rich environment.
Hackwitch
Yeah, its one of the places in the state where there's any diversity at all, and the two Vermonts thing I was talking about isn't strictly limited by geography. There are a whole bunch of people in Burlington who hate that its a progressive college town.
MasterOdin
There's also a lot of latent racism in the state, including by the "ultra-progressives" in Burlington and Montpelier, not helped by how not diverse the state is. There was a VPR story 6ish years ago how a black guy moved from Georgia and talked about how much worse VT was for him and his family.
Hackwitch
Yeah that's definitely an issue up there too, it's not a diverse place. Burlington is a bit better because of the colleges, but only a bit, its still a big problem.
cometitmakesyourteethturngreen
Same with Massachusetts and New Hampshire- free havens and scary places
Hackwitch
Yeah, its kinda the whole US TBH, you've got the places where everyone lives, and has to get along and deal with each other, and then you've got big empty tracts of land with like 500 people living there, at least a few of whom have never left town. (I say this as someone who has lived in the smaller places quite a bit. I've seen a Confederate-gadston-american flag hybrid flying over an american flag with trump on it, in MA)
cometitmakesyourteethturngreen
Same unfortunately.
cometitmakesyourteethturngreen
And I grew up in the Pennsyltuckey area. Just hoping for Democracy to prevail
AlwaysInTheshadows
I would really like to hear the defense for "not guilty".
ThePunishersVengefulBrother
He's hoping his MAGA buddies on the force will intimidate witnesses and lie on the stand.
Afrikane
The olde "Semite Panic" defense /s
aroundtheworldin80years
In American courtrooms that just means "I admit nuffink, guv" versus guilty, which translates to "it's a fair cop, guv".
Jandegrote
Same defense as all the hate crimes that took place after 9/11 most likely
maeta
Tbh experience had taught me the hard way: I'm just glad the cops didn't lie and say that these kids shot themselves
ilikehornets
"My plea deal was 25 years so I'll take the chance of getting 40 in a trial or walking"
wababooba
Especially after shooting them in the spine and glute…
Sageypie
"I was standing my ground...by stalking behind, and then sneaking up on three people that I felt threatened by, and shooting them in the backs" in a nutshell, iirc. But yeah, "threatened" and "standing his ground", from three strangers who did not engage him in any way, shape, or form, before he opened fire on them.
icer190
Vermont doesn't have a stand your ground defense.
Sageypie
I mean, I'd argue that stand your ground also doesn't apply to sneak attacking folk like this, but this shooter douche doesn't seem like the brightest tool in the shed.
icer190
Oh, it definitely doesn't apply here in any state. But the main fact is that Vermont doesn't even have it as a law.
LoudBirb
The dude was caught after the fact in his home. Since he wasn't caught at the scene, his lawyers are likely planning to argue that he wasn't the one that shot those kids. There's a good amount of evidence, though, so we'll see how this shakes out in court. https://abcnews.go.com/US/suspect-pleads-guilty-vermont-shooting-3-college-students/story?id=105178995
Fatbird
One of the things I learned on a jury is that someone is not saying they are or are not guilty of *all* crime, just the very specific crime they are being charged with. He could argue that he wasn't attempting to kill them, just maim them a little, for fun, and dodge the murder charge if his defense could give any doubt as to the charge of attempted murder. Convince them to think, yeah, maybe he did just want to kneecap some kids, and that's a not guilty verdict.
Heavenissize17socks
I really do think the state of Vermont should be paying for his medical bills.
afterdarkart
As a Vermonter, I say the man can just pull himself up by his bootstraps.
enotrevo
more like vermonster
afterdarkart
Oh wow, how regressive of you. Clearly did you read none of what was said, you added nothing of value. It's 480 characters at most. But ride your virtue wagon down the road of mediocrity and for supporting the shooter.
enotrevo
What? Who is it that you think has medical bills? I'll give you a hint, it's not the shooter.
Slickdoodle
At some point in the near future, people are going to realize that an /s isn't "sometimes" necessary. It's ALWAYS necessary. Always. Wait, I'm wrong. Unless you're an inhuman goblin.
afterdarkart
The guy who shot him? We shouldn't pay for any of his crap. The man clearly shot him out of Fox news inspired hatred and I won't stand for it.
LuminoZero
No. The State needs to be liable for not stopping this shit. Gun control, red flag laws, prosecuting people who spread this hateful rhetoric without consequences. Change only happens when people start feeling the pain themselves.
afterdarkart
We have those. My brother in christ, its my fucking state, and we have those.
Slickdoodle
Oof. I really want to make a dark joke about "feeling the pain" here. Nah. I'll put that down and back away.