May 31, 2020 1:21 PM
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ItsReallyNotThatDifficult
The SCPD also can’t enforce.
bakminn360
Unless they're burning everything in sight.
TheLastSpaceman
Good man
OkButWhyWereTheyFilming
If only this weren't the exception but rather the rule.
ASDFFDSAASDFASDF
come back at night try that again
Babybunz
thebigclamp
Its almost like he doesnt have a flash riot on hus doorstep. Good work but different situation
HashbrownsOfLove
It's not really that simple.
IThinkYouGotAFineBrainJack
That's a good kneel too. If I kneel like that, I always topple in less than 5 seconds.
LuftMeister
Work on your core
ScrewYouAndTheDildoYouRodeInOn
It's basically like this everywhere until right-wing plants start violence
ReaperCDN
This is how you demonstrate you're listening. This is how you demonstrate that the people are heard. Keep doing this.
And then, most importantly, start making some changes in the system.
makeyourownpath
It’s ok for cops to protest other cops who murder or others standing around watching a life be taken.
bob22222212
Yeah... obviously lol
EranL
They'll kneel with you and be BBFs and everything will be back to normal. Nobody needs a system change
Targe0
The systems not overly broken, its the ones that have control over it that are breaking it. Put good people in charge and it would work fine
hometovalhalla
it's not that's simple, they need to push for change within their precincts to stop future murders from happening. Heartwarming but not
going to change anything unless they take that spirit back to work and start insisting on accountability for their colleagues
HiccupsAreReverseThrowUps
colin kaepernick can have his job back now, orrrr?
Rijtjeshuis
I get the symbolism of kneeling for the movement, but it seems kinda strange they'd do that in uniform for this particular case.
NewtGinGrinch
Ah but can someone confirm that thee National Anthem wasn't being played nearby? If THAT was the case, this would be unpatriotic. /s
Can the downvoter explain.. at which point did the kneeling become unpatriotic Team Trump then? Cause it was televised? Please explain.
*to Team Trump
somerandomtwat
this is cool but i feeel like this guy is implying that this would work everywhere. if they did this in one of the hot spots it
would not be possible.
FarmerFrance
THIS is how you keep a protest like this peaceful.
except it didnt work
You got evidence for that, champ?
steerAwwPrincess
Its not an us/them its right/wrong. Some people get it and others don’t.
idontenglishsorry
this rhymes
Imjusthereforthecomments
Username checks out lol
I guess it doesnt then? haa
It doesn’t. But I love you.
thirdcoast
I've been a little out of the loop, but is ANYONE saying the cop doesn't deserve murder charges? Seems like we're all on the same page here
venkea
No, but there are people who are otherwise typically reasonable saying that ALL cops are corrupt and evil
rooik14
It's not that all cops are evil, but they are part of an evil organization where they can get away from murder so they're skeptical of cops.
spiceass9000
Idk if they’re saying all but definitely that the frequency at which this shit occurs is u tolerable
believe me most of these people are not "otherwise reasonable"
DeputyChiefJudgeFish
Because they’re not thinking. Just getting carried away with their emotions, which doesn’t help anybody.
PataPataPat
100% on that emotions overriding thinking
well, manslaughter not murder. apart form that yea fully agree.
Owlsdude
For a murder conviction, you have to prove motive and intent. Legally, if they go after a murder charge it’ll be thrown out and he’ll 1/2
Regithros
there is motive and intent. the murderer kneels on the man's throat for over 8.5 minutes. first six minutes he predetermined he would killem
walk completely. Manslaughter is the proper charge here, even though it doesn’t feel like enough. But it’s the right thing to do. 2/2
BloodmoneNL
You lead by example. That's how respect is earned. Especially being the chief. This speaks volumes of his character & his department.
Lynkfox
Reports here in Columbus are indicating unneeded aggression from PD. Aggression is escalating back. Starting to sound forced for a story...
tacticalattackterriers
It's also going to be a purely local basis. Some places are worse off than others.
Zinman
Santa Cruz ethnic composition is just 1% African American. So that’s a very nice gesture but....
Nihiladrem1
I argue that there is a component to these protests that is anti police brutality and pro police accountability, not just race injustice.
siyuri1641
What's with all the comments putting him down for showing solidarity?
WhereCanYouSeeLions
It's because showing solidarity isn't enough. Every time something like this happens there are stories like this one where cops show their
support for the protesters. Then it happens again the next time, and the next time, and the next time. Nothing changes, so it's natural to
become cynical that it will do anything this time.
commentsivehadafew
That’s how you lead
GINGIVITISSS
Not to read.
outlier2379
This is one of the best comments I've seen. Thank you so much.
Onerrorresumenext
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usernamemustbe4characterslonng
Yes. Lead from the front. Set the example.
MaterNyx
That is right an so many levels. Truly leading ppl and have ppl follow you means showing them that it's them you serve.
cubsfan05
But the media would much rather publicize the bad news - the riots and the small percentage of bad cops.
TheMajesticHarpyEagle
If 10 cops do bad things and 90 stand by and do nothing, you have 100 bad cops.
Still leaves thousands of good cops. Plus it's not as if every where you look you have 90% not doing anything.
And yet this shit still happens on the daily. The bad apples have ruined the bunch.
Alkuam2
except that doesnt apply to the rioters who are a peaceful protest that just so happens to be 70% looters and beat a guy to death on tape
(i mean it doesnt cause it isnt their job to stop it, but neither are 89 of those other cops there/ia. either 1 characterizes group or not)
(fucking character cap butchering)
Protestors/rioters arent a unified legal entity with innate law enforcement capabilities mate. Also (Citation needed)
https://publish.twitter.com/?query=https%3A%2F%2Ftwitter.com%2FElijahSchaffer%2Fstatus%2F1266948486848749570&widget=Tweet
He attacked a bunch of people with a sword my dude. He also wasnt killed from the articles Ive seen.
whyisitsohardtogetausername
What do you mean it's that simple? They're attacking police in other areas regardless if they're kneeling or not
evidence? and did the police de-escalate and stand with them? Call out their own departments?
EdMcBain
Ok former SC resident— it’s littered with hippies, trustifstians, rich techies, and students. No systemic oppression ever happened there.
AvocadoMakesMyTongueItchButIEatItAnyway
If it's mostly white trust fund babies living there that are successful, then systemic oppression happened.
mojo69
So it's racist for an area to be mostly white people?
I read that as "littered with nipples" and was like "WTF?"
zazizuzezo
yeah, I assume that any "rioter" have headed for San Jose, where there's more stuff to "loot"
Nonsense79
Didn’t work in Chicago. But at least no body else got hurt. City is trashed tho.
It was always trash, its Chicago.
MrPeterCapaldi
The police chief did not do this in Chicago.
cakeordeathdeathimeancake
I mean, its Chicago, its been trashed for a while now...
boopmonger
Didn't this all start because a cop kneeled?
Yellowchopsticks
Remembering someone by what killed them is the Christian way.
m1k3tv
On someones neck long enough to murder them. You've got a weak sense of humor.
Think you mean *dark sense of humor.
roeliebobs
No weak is the right word here. Thats putting it mildly
MoonMoon89
I don't see any news about rioting in Santa Cruz. Sounds like it works.
Until there's rioting.
SuperIncoherentRantingMan
Two forces unwilling to give. If you push them against each other, all you get is violence. We need to listen instead.
repealthethirteenth
no Louis Vuitton in Santa Cruz I guess
xanius
It does. If the police acknowledge and participate then people won't lash out to be heard.
Cakinator
Flint did something similar; they walked and paraded together. Despite everything Flint has been through, they’re community strong first.
Cheesynipnop
Well yea their all fucking pissed off together about their water being poisoned.
MoonPieTown
It's Santa Cruz, CA...it's a coastal paradise...people who live there are wealthy and happy. Why would there be riots? (I lived near there)
My point is downtown Santa Cruz/San Francisco isnt the same as downtown St. Louis or Atlanta. Cops in S. Cruz have a little less to fear.
That being said...it's still cool cops are doing this in the safer cities to show their support.
Jandegrote
Because America new's is more based around only showing the awfull things people do this is not news this is peace no money in it.
CubbyPawws
Its almost like sending militarized, heavy armored, heavily armed police to a peaceful protest might only make matters escalate.
isKratomSafe00
They are all high. Have been for decades
NJAFO
Santa Cruz 75% white, 1.8% black, $100,000+ yearly income. Demographics may have a hand in this.
MissAizea
Reno had riots, arguably higher white population. Similar black population. Was peaceful until the cops tear gassed the crowds.
Thevelorebluemarble
I think most people just want to be listened to.
1metalnation
Rioting is the language of the unheard
And the opportunistic
no loads of heard people riot. for instance these rioters
That's the point. No one listened when they begged for help and change. They were unheard. Now everyone hears them
no. they were heard, people just have no figured out how to fix the problem. now people hate them because of the violence caused
SmartererThanYou
And now people think poorly of us because of the rioting.
Koga90
Or he can do this because no one is "rioting"
DarkwingDuc
No one was rioting in most other cities, not at first. IMO a better response, like this, could have stopped it in many (but not all) places.
isthiswhereIentermyusername
Why is rioting in quotes?
limerind
right. no rioting in minot north dakota. obviously the solution is to do nothing like the police chief there. dumbasses.
Glostickninja
Ah, Minot.
zeroisnothing
What a shit hole.
Swe3tJe3bus
Maybe don't fire gas and rubber bullets at people
root1657
Maybe don't riot
ABillionDucks
Maybe punish bad cops.
Concur, punish all criminals, no matter what their profession.
SnickerMyKnickers
Santa Cruz is not where you’d be likely to see riots anyway. But it’s still a good gesture
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.mercurynews.com/2010/05/02/at-least-18-santa-cruz-businesses-suffered-damage-during-may-day-riot/amp/
unkiereamus
That was before legal weed...
Well shit
ktrout30
10 yr old article...
Yep! Just responding to the idea that Santa Cruz isn't a place where you'd see a riot.
ItsReallyNotThatDifficult
The SCPD also can’t enforce.
bakminn360
Unless they're burning everything in sight.
TheLastSpaceman
Good man
OkButWhyWereTheyFilming
If only this weren't the exception but rather the rule.
ASDFFDSAASDFASDF
come back at night try that again
Babybunz
thebigclamp
Its almost like he doesnt have a flash riot on hus doorstep. Good work but different situation
HashbrownsOfLove
It's not really that simple.
IThinkYouGotAFineBrainJack
That's a good kneel too. If I kneel like that, I always topple in less than 5 seconds.
LuftMeister
Work on your core
ScrewYouAndTheDildoYouRodeInOn
It's basically like this everywhere until right-wing plants start violence
ReaperCDN
This is how you demonstrate you're listening. This is how you demonstrate that the people are heard. Keep doing this.
ReaperCDN
And then, most importantly, start making some changes in the system.
makeyourownpath
It’s ok for cops to protest other cops who murder or others standing around watching a life be taken.
bob22222212
Yeah... obviously lol
EranL
They'll kneel with you and be BBFs and everything will be back to normal. Nobody needs a system change
Targe0
The systems not overly broken, its the ones that have control over it that are breaking it. Put good people in charge and it would work fine
hometovalhalla
it's not that's simple, they need to push for change within their precincts to stop future murders from happening. Heartwarming but not
hometovalhalla
going to change anything unless they take that spirit back to work and start insisting on accountability for their colleagues
HiccupsAreReverseThrowUps
colin kaepernick can have his job back now, orrrr?
Rijtjeshuis
I get the symbolism of kneeling for the movement, but it seems kinda strange they'd do that in uniform for this particular case.
NewtGinGrinch
Ah but can someone confirm that thee National Anthem wasn't being played nearby? If THAT was the case, this would be unpatriotic. /s
NewtGinGrinch
Can the downvoter explain.. at which point did the kneeling become unpatriotic Team Trump then? Cause it was televised? Please explain.
NewtGinGrinch
*to Team Trump
somerandomtwat
this is cool but i feeel like this guy is implying that this would work everywhere. if they did this in one of the hot spots it
somerandomtwat
would not be possible.
FarmerFrance
THIS is how you keep a protest like this peaceful.
ASDFFDSAASDFASDF
except it didnt work
LuftMeister
You got evidence for that, champ?
steerAwwPrincess
Its not an us/them its right/wrong. Some people get it and others don’t.
idontenglishsorry
this rhymes
Imjusthereforthecomments
Username checks out lol
idontenglishsorry
I guess it doesnt then? haa
Imjusthereforthecomments
It doesn’t. But I love you.
thirdcoast
I've been a little out of the loop, but is ANYONE saying the cop doesn't deserve murder charges? Seems like we're all on the same page here
venkea
No, but there are people who are otherwise typically reasonable saying that ALL cops are corrupt and evil
rooik14
It's not that all cops are evil, but they are part of an evil organization where they can get away from murder so they're skeptical of cops.
spiceass9000
Idk if they’re saying all but definitely that the frequency at which this shit occurs is u tolerable
somerandomtwat
believe me most of these people are not "otherwise reasonable"
DeputyChiefJudgeFish
Because they’re not thinking. Just getting carried away with their emotions, which doesn’t help anybody.
PataPataPat
100% on that emotions overriding thinking
somerandomtwat
well, manslaughter not murder. apart form that yea fully agree.
Owlsdude
Imjusthereforthecomments
For a murder conviction, you have to prove motive and intent. Legally, if they go after a murder charge it’ll be thrown out and he’ll 1/2
Regithros
there is motive and intent. the murderer kneels on the man's throat for over 8.5 minutes. first six minutes he predetermined he would killem
Imjusthereforthecomments
walk completely. Manslaughter is the proper charge here, even though it doesn’t feel like enough. But it’s the right thing to do. 2/2
BloodmoneNL
You lead by example. That's how respect is earned. Especially being the chief. This speaks volumes of his character & his department.
Lynkfox
Reports here in Columbus are indicating unneeded aggression from PD. Aggression is escalating back. Starting to sound forced for a story...
tacticalattackterriers
It's also going to be a purely local basis. Some places are worse off than others.
Zinman
Santa Cruz ethnic composition is just 1% African American. So that’s a very nice gesture but....
Nihiladrem1
I argue that there is a component to these protests that is anti police brutality and pro police accountability, not just race injustice.
siyuri1641
What's with all the comments putting him down for showing solidarity?
WhereCanYouSeeLions
It's because showing solidarity isn't enough. Every time something like this happens there are stories like this one where cops show their
WhereCanYouSeeLions
support for the protesters. Then it happens again the next time, and the next time, and the next time. Nothing changes, so it's natural to
WhereCanYouSeeLions
become cynical that it will do anything this time.
commentsivehadafew
That’s how you lead
GINGIVITISSS
Not to read.
outlier2379
This is one of the best comments I've seen. Thank you so much.
Onerrorresumenext
usernamemustbe4characterslonng
Yes. Lead from the front. Set the example.
MaterNyx
That is right an so many levels. Truly leading ppl and have ppl follow you means showing them that it's them you serve.
cubsfan05
But the media would much rather publicize the bad news - the riots and the small percentage of bad cops.
TheMajesticHarpyEagle
If 10 cops do bad things and 90 stand by and do nothing, you have 100 bad cops.
cubsfan05
Still leaves thousands of good cops. Plus it's not as if every where you look you have 90% not doing anything.
TheMajesticHarpyEagle
And yet this shit still happens on the daily. The bad apples have ruined the bunch.
Alkuam2
ASDFFDSAASDFASDF
except that doesnt apply to the rioters who are a peaceful protest that just so happens to be 70% looters and beat a guy to death on tape
ASDFFDSAASDFASDF
(i mean it doesnt cause it isnt their job to stop it, but neither are 89 of those other cops there/ia. either 1 characterizes group or not)
ASDFFDSAASDFASDF
(fucking character cap butchering)
TheMajesticHarpyEagle
Protestors/rioters arent a unified legal entity with innate law enforcement capabilities mate. Also (Citation needed)
ASDFFDSAASDFASDF
https://publish.twitter.com/?query=https%3A%2F%2Ftwitter.com%2FElijahSchaffer%2Fstatus%2F1266948486848749570&widget=Tweet
TheMajesticHarpyEagle
He attacked a bunch of people with a sword my dude. He also wasnt killed from the articles Ive seen.
whyisitsohardtogetausername
What do you mean it's that simple? They're attacking police in other areas regardless if they're kneeling or not
rooik14
evidence? and did the police de-escalate and stand with them? Call out their own departments?
EdMcBain
Ok former SC resident— it’s littered with hippies, trustifstians, rich techies, and students. No systemic oppression ever happened there.
AvocadoMakesMyTongueItchButIEatItAnyway
If it's mostly white trust fund babies living there that are successful, then systemic oppression happened.
mojo69
So it's racist for an area to be mostly white people?
Alkuam2
I read that as "littered with nipples" and was like "WTF?"
zazizuzezo
yeah, I assume that any "rioter" have headed for San Jose, where there's more stuff to "loot"
Nonsense79
Didn’t work in Chicago. But at least no body else got hurt. City is trashed tho.
TheMajesticHarpyEagle
It was always trash, its Chicago.
MrPeterCapaldi
The police chief did not do this in Chicago.
cakeordeathdeathimeancake
I mean, its Chicago, its been trashed for a while now...
boopmonger
Didn't this all start because a cop kneeled?
Yellowchopsticks
Remembering someone by what killed them is the Christian way.
m1k3tv
On someones neck long enough to murder them. You've got a weak sense of humor.
boopmonger
Think you mean *dark sense of humor.
roeliebobs
No weak is the right word here. Thats putting it mildly
MoonMoon89
I don't see any news about rioting in Santa Cruz. Sounds like it works.
bakminn360
Until there's rioting.
SuperIncoherentRantingMan
Two forces unwilling to give. If you push them against each other, all you get is violence. We need to listen instead.
repealthethirteenth
no Louis Vuitton in Santa Cruz I guess
xanius
It does. If the police acknowledge and participate then people won't lash out to be heard.
Cakinator
Flint did something similar; they walked and paraded together. Despite everything Flint has been through, they’re community strong first.
Cheesynipnop
Well yea their all fucking pissed off together about their water being poisoned.
MoonPieTown
It's Santa Cruz, CA...it's a coastal paradise...people who live there are wealthy and happy. Why would there be riots? (I lived near there)
MoonPieTown
My point is downtown Santa Cruz/San Francisco isnt the same as downtown St. Louis or Atlanta. Cops in S. Cruz have a little less to fear.
MoonPieTown
That being said...it's still cool cops are doing this in the safer cities to show their support.
Jandegrote
Because America new's is more based around only showing the awfull things people do this is not news this is peace no money in it.
CubbyPawws
Its almost like sending militarized, heavy armored, heavily armed police to a peaceful protest might only make matters escalate.
isKratomSafe00
They are all high. Have been for decades
NJAFO
Santa Cruz 75% white, 1.8% black, $100,000+ yearly income. Demographics may have a hand in this.
MissAizea
Reno had riots, arguably higher white population. Similar black population. Was peaceful until the cops tear gassed the crowds.
Thevelorebluemarble
I think most people just want to be listened to.
1metalnation
Rioting is the language of the unheard
DeputyChiefJudgeFish
And the opportunistic
somerandomtwat
no loads of heard people riot. for instance these rioters
1metalnation
That's the point. No one listened when they begged for help and change. They were unheard. Now everyone hears them
somerandomtwat
no. they were heard, people just have no figured out how to fix the problem. now people hate them because of the violence caused
SmartererThanYou
And now people think poorly of us because of the rioting.
Koga90
Or he can do this because no one is "rioting"
DarkwingDuc
No one was rioting in most other cities, not at first. IMO a better response, like this, could have stopped it in many (but not all) places.
isthiswhereIentermyusername
Why is rioting in quotes?
limerind
right. no rioting in minot north dakota. obviously the solution is to do nothing like the police chief there. dumbasses.
Glostickninja
Ah, Minot.
zeroisnothing
What a shit hole.
Swe3tJe3bus
Maybe don't fire gas and rubber bullets at people
root1657
Maybe don't riot
ABillionDucks
Maybe punish bad cops.
root1657
Concur, punish all criminals, no matter what their profession.
SnickerMyKnickers
Santa Cruz is not where you’d be likely to see riots anyway. But it’s still a good gesture
Nihiladrem1
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.mercurynews.com/2010/05/02/at-least-18-santa-cruz-businesses-suffered-damage-during-may-day-riot/amp/
unkiereamus
That was before legal weed...
SnickerMyKnickers
Well shit
ktrout30
10 yr old article...
Nihiladrem1
Yep! Just responding to the idea that Santa Cruz isn't a place where you'd see a riot.